Jason_23
05-21-2007, 09:44 AM
Well here I am again back at square one, after a couple of months my swallowing has just reappeared all of a sudden. It was so great when I was unable to think about swallowing although I did have another minor ocd thing to think about, but it wasn't as bad as the swallowing. This swallowing thing is annoying me so much, I can't stand it, I just want to be able to sit down and relax. I can't relax and do simple things like watching tv without having to think about swallowing. The difference between yesterday and today is unbelievable, yesterday I was hardly thinking about it now I'm thinking about it basically all the time. I think I triggered it off again by thinking what if it comes back and I think of it all the time, which is exactly what happened. What does one do to get rid of this. ARRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH. IT"S DRIVING ME NUTS. PLEASE SOMEBODY COME UP WITH A MIRACLE CURE.
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dannic1
05-23-2007, 09:48 PM
Hey Jason23,
Sorry to hear that it came back again. I think for me, exercise has helped quite a bit. Are you exercising at all? I also went and got a massage Saturday and it seemed to help and relax me. I totally understand about trying to watch t.v. and wanting to just RELAX, but how the thoughts keep popping into your head. If it helps, I understand what you are going through. Are you stressed out more than usual? From everything I have read from other people who have had our problem and from my own personal experience, it seems to get worse during periods of stress. Have you thought about trying medication? Chewing gum really helps me a lot. You are in my thoughts and my prayers.
danni
Sorry to hear that it came back again. I think for me, exercise has helped quite a bit. Are you exercising at all? I also went and got a massage Saturday and it seemed to help and relax me. I totally understand about trying to watch t.v. and wanting to just RELAX, but how the thoughts keep popping into your head. If it helps, I understand what you are going through. Are you stressed out more than usual? From everything I have read from other people who have had our problem and from my own personal experience, it seems to get worse during periods of stress. Have you thought about trying medication? Chewing gum really helps me a lot. You are in my thoughts and my prayers.
danni
Jason_23
05-25-2007, 06:32 AM
Hi Danni
I don't do enough exercise regularly enough. I've been thinking of joining a gym which probably is a good idea as I've heard that exercise can be a good thing. Today i've had a reasonably better day not letting it get to me, I think that's how I stopped thinking about swallowing last time, by not worrying about it so much. With any luck this time will be the same.
I don't do enough exercise regularly enough. I've been thinking of joining a gym which probably is a good idea as I've heard that exercise can be a good thing. Today i've had a reasonably better day not letting it get to me, I think that's how I stopped thinking about swallowing last time, by not worrying about it so much. With any luck this time will be the same.
Jason_23
05-27-2007, 08:39 AM
Hi Danni
Just wondering if you can explain a bit about biofeedback therapy, if you could that would be most appreciated. I think I have seen something in one of your posts before that explains something about biofeedback therapy. I'd rather not take medication and I would rather try and find other ways to deal with it, although if things weren't working out, I guess I would consider medication. I am still aware of swallowing 24/7 but I can control it and I am dealing with it ok, it can just be so annoying at times.
Just wondering if you can explain a bit about biofeedback therapy, if you could that would be most appreciated. I think I have seen something in one of your posts before that explains something about biofeedback therapy. I'd rather not take medication and I would rather try and find other ways to deal with it, although if things weren't working out, I guess I would consider medication. I am still aware of swallowing 24/7 but I can control it and I am dealing with it ok, it can just be so annoying at times.
dannic1
05-28-2007, 06:40 PM
Hi Jason23,
I really think we are going through stress or anxiety - I don't know if what we are suffering from is actually OCD or not? I have days where it goes away completely and I think to myself, what did I do differently and I think it is just simply NOT allowing yourself to worry about the problem. Just curious- do you have days where it's hard to relax? I get that way sometimes - never used to be that way. I think we focus on our own bodies too much - maybe that is OCD, I don't really know. Mine went away on its own in high school. I said a lot of prayers back then as well. The biofeedback is like playing video games with your own brain and sort of "re-training" it to think differently. I'm not a therapist, so I can't really explain it in detail, but I do know that the protocol for OCD is simply treating you for anxiety. It did help me with the anxiety A LOT and I truly need to have more done. I need to get back into my exercising again as well - I stopped for a couple of evenings and I can definitely feel the difference. I also had to cut back on my caffeine again. I recently got a new dog over the weekend (have two already and am babysitting one) and it has been stressing me out some!
Try to find someone board certified in biofeedback. My therapist said that it might help to shift the brain some - I guess meaning with my thoughts.
danni
I really think we are going through stress or anxiety - I don't know if what we are suffering from is actually OCD or not? I have days where it goes away completely and I think to myself, what did I do differently and I think it is just simply NOT allowing yourself to worry about the problem. Just curious- do you have days where it's hard to relax? I get that way sometimes - never used to be that way. I think we focus on our own bodies too much - maybe that is OCD, I don't really know. Mine went away on its own in high school. I said a lot of prayers back then as well. The biofeedback is like playing video games with your own brain and sort of "re-training" it to think differently. I'm not a therapist, so I can't really explain it in detail, but I do know that the protocol for OCD is simply treating you for anxiety. It did help me with the anxiety A LOT and I truly need to have more done. I need to get back into my exercising again as well - I stopped for a couple of evenings and I can definitely feel the difference. I also had to cut back on my caffeine again. I recently got a new dog over the weekend (have two already and am babysitting one) and it has been stressing me out some!
Try to find someone board certified in biofeedback. My therapist said that it might help to shift the brain some - I guess meaning with my thoughts.
danni
Jason_23
05-30-2007, 10:20 AM
Hi Danni
I've decided to go and see a therapist again soon. The biofeedback therapy sounds interesting. I've also just started medication to see if that helps the problem, although I've been having good days again, so basically my brain is totally confusing me at the moment, I probably don't need to be on medication at all but it's worth a try to see what happens. I think that trying to keep busy helps. I have also found that If I don't try to control my swallowing as much then I tend to worry about it less, but I try to control it to a certain extent just not too much. I know what you mean about being able to relax some days and other days you can't, some days just seem to be better than others.
I've decided to go and see a therapist again soon. The biofeedback therapy sounds interesting. I've also just started medication to see if that helps the problem, although I've been having good days again, so basically my brain is totally confusing me at the moment, I probably don't need to be on medication at all but it's worth a try to see what happens. I think that trying to keep busy helps. I have also found that If I don't try to control my swallowing as much then I tend to worry about it less, but I try to control it to a certain extent just not too much. I know what you mean about being able to relax some days and other days you can't, some days just seem to be better than others.
dannic1
06-02-2007, 03:04 AM
I'm on your side and cheering you on, Jason23. You are in my thoughts and my prayers. Have faith that God above loves you and wants to heal you. : )
I have had a really good day today. I adopted a rescue dog - sweet little double dapple dachshund and she's like a God-send to me! I have been SO focused on her, as she has some "issues", that my mind has totally unfocused on the swallowing and onto Sandy Sue. I am finally busier at work with very detailed projects and it helps SO much not to be idle. I finally felt "relaxed" and at ease today. I finally felt "normal" and like my old self again. It was like "wow, so this is what it's like to be the old me again?!?"
Oddly enough, I think a small amount of caffeine helps me, as it dries my
mouth and I don't feel the urge to swallow. I don't overdo it, though, as I don't want my anxiety to come back. A small amount seems to do the trick for me. I'm also finding that exercise and massages help. Try a massage - you will LOVE it! It's SO relaxing. I'm also considering hypnotherapy and/or acupunture - heard good things about both. Who knows, maybe now I won't need it? I definitely keep my prayers going upward every day as well! :angel: Let me know how the medication works for you.
danni
I have had a really good day today. I adopted a rescue dog - sweet little double dapple dachshund and she's like a God-send to me! I have been SO focused on her, as she has some "issues", that my mind has totally unfocused on the swallowing and onto Sandy Sue. I am finally busier at work with very detailed projects and it helps SO much not to be idle. I finally felt "relaxed" and at ease today. I finally felt "normal" and like my old self again. It was like "wow, so this is what it's like to be the old me again?!?"
Oddly enough, I think a small amount of caffeine helps me, as it dries my
mouth and I don't feel the urge to swallow. I don't overdo it, though, as I don't want my anxiety to come back. A small amount seems to do the trick for me. I'm also finding that exercise and massages help. Try a massage - you will LOVE it! It's SO relaxing. I'm also considering hypnotherapy and/or acupunture - heard good things about both. Who knows, maybe now I won't need it? I definitely keep my prayers going upward every day as well! :angel: Let me know how the medication works for you.
danni
ManX
08-08-2007, 09:38 PM
how are you people doing..any better?
It went well for some time now..and now i gota new job and back with my online girl it all started and worse again.
With me it started when i was 19 and it never ever was 100 % gone...So ur Lucky DAnni in a way..i never been totally without it,altho for some yearrs it wasnt so bad and i could live with it.The biggest prob is fearing to swallow while talking to some1 ..damn how much i hate this,ah well in the end...it's fearing anywhere in any situation with any1 notecing lol
What i really hate is when it starts getting really bad and making me so nervous...
Well hope u guys are doign bettter then me :)
It went well for some time now..and now i gota new job and back with my online girl it all started and worse again.
With me it started when i was 19 and it never ever was 100 % gone...So ur Lucky DAnni in a way..i never been totally without it,altho for some yearrs it wasnt so bad and i could live with it.The biggest prob is fearing to swallow while talking to some1 ..damn how much i hate this,ah well in the end...it's fearing anywhere in any situation with any1 notecing lol
What i really hate is when it starts getting really bad and making me so nervous...
Well hope u guys are doign bettter then me :)
dannic1
08-08-2007, 11:19 PM
Hi Man X,
I wondered how you were doing. I thought that the last time we talked you were going to try medication? What happened there? I was hopeful that the medication would be helping you by now. By the way, in the book Confronting the Bully of OCD, our symptom is listed under miscellaneous. I talked on the phone with Dr. Stephen Brodsky in New York, the therapist who treated Linda Maran, who wrote the book. He said that it did sound like OCD (even though he didn't really want to diagnosis me over email or the phone) and that it is very common in his patients and very treatable. I don't know what your financial situation is like, but he does do sessions over the phone, but doubt that your ins. carrier will pay for them. He did encourage me to try and find a local therapist first. (I tried one here locally and didn't like him - I think he had OCD himself). So...with that said, I'm trying a new one on Tuesday afternoon and probably quitting my current therapist, who does not specialize in OCD. Oddly enough, as I've posted before, I can chew gum and it goes away just like that! Somehow I've trained my OCD brain, I think, to relax and not focus on my swallowing with gum. I can just keep a piece of gum in my mouth and not feel the need to swallow all the time - I probably don't even chew it that much. I know it sounds weird, but it's true. I'm starting to get busy at work now and I noticed that I'm having more and more OCD free moments without the aid of gum, whereby I don't have the problem at all. I have made friends with a lot of on-line Christian people and they are praying for me and believing for my healing, as I am also believing for myself. : ) Pray and believe in your healing - claim it, ManX. I wonder if we also have a little bit of social anxiety - did that ever cross your mind?
Do you have any fear of rejection or judgement from people? I do - didn't before, but when this happened again, it's like my thinking somehow changed. Really hard to explain, but another poster said it was like paranoid thoughts started to set in, in her - I kind of understand that comment in a way. I mean I'm "normal" to be around, but I always fear people looking at me or judging me and I was hardly ever like that before this last bout of OCD.
Keep me posted - I actually broke off my on-line relationship, but found someone here locally that I am seeing on and off...so, here comes the stress again. I really wonder why it bothers us so much if someone actually does see us swallow? Did you ever stop to ponder that question? Do you really think that they would like us any less? Everyone swallows - I just think we're nervous like you said and more aware of ours. I think we're afraid that if we do it too much, that someone is going to notice our nervousness or imperfections/anxiety, 'ya know? Look forward to hearing back from you and you and Jason_23 are in my prayers. Remember, I had a VERY long period of years without the swallowing problem.
danni
I wondered how you were doing. I thought that the last time we talked you were going to try medication? What happened there? I was hopeful that the medication would be helping you by now. By the way, in the book Confronting the Bully of OCD, our symptom is listed under miscellaneous. I talked on the phone with Dr. Stephen Brodsky in New York, the therapist who treated Linda Maran, who wrote the book. He said that it did sound like OCD (even though he didn't really want to diagnosis me over email or the phone) and that it is very common in his patients and very treatable. I don't know what your financial situation is like, but he does do sessions over the phone, but doubt that your ins. carrier will pay for them. He did encourage me to try and find a local therapist first. (I tried one here locally and didn't like him - I think he had OCD himself). So...with that said, I'm trying a new one on Tuesday afternoon and probably quitting my current therapist, who does not specialize in OCD. Oddly enough, as I've posted before, I can chew gum and it goes away just like that! Somehow I've trained my OCD brain, I think, to relax and not focus on my swallowing with gum. I can just keep a piece of gum in my mouth and not feel the need to swallow all the time - I probably don't even chew it that much. I know it sounds weird, but it's true. I'm starting to get busy at work now and I noticed that I'm having more and more OCD free moments without the aid of gum, whereby I don't have the problem at all. I have made friends with a lot of on-line Christian people and they are praying for me and believing for my healing, as I am also believing for myself. : ) Pray and believe in your healing - claim it, ManX. I wonder if we also have a little bit of social anxiety - did that ever cross your mind?
Do you have any fear of rejection or judgement from people? I do - didn't before, but when this happened again, it's like my thinking somehow changed. Really hard to explain, but another poster said it was like paranoid thoughts started to set in, in her - I kind of understand that comment in a way. I mean I'm "normal" to be around, but I always fear people looking at me or judging me and I was hardly ever like that before this last bout of OCD.
Keep me posted - I actually broke off my on-line relationship, but found someone here locally that I am seeing on and off...so, here comes the stress again. I really wonder why it bothers us so much if someone actually does see us swallow? Did you ever stop to ponder that question? Do you really think that they would like us any less? Everyone swallows - I just think we're nervous like you said and more aware of ours. I think we're afraid that if we do it too much, that someone is going to notice our nervousness or imperfections/anxiety, 'ya know? Look forward to hearing back from you and you and Jason_23 are in my prayers. Remember, I had a VERY long period of years without the swallowing problem.
danni
ManX
08-09-2007, 05:44 PM
THanx Danni and nice to hear from you again.
I hear ya with the social anxiety thingy..i always feel looked upon and judged,or think they are..
I havent gone to the doctor at all,i somehow dont want to.makes me feel im crazy if i gotta explain it and im afraid it will make it worse if i do that.
I have always been afraid to tell my past gf's about this,cos i would be afraid then they would remind me of it by just seeing them..or im afraid they will get it too..cos ive noticed some people start to do it a lil too when im around,so i guess they do notice sometimes.Wich makes me more nervous.
Somehow this thing totally makes me insecure in certain situations..right now i feel so "different"then "normal"people...and so afraid my gf will think that too and leave me or something.I misss the past ,years ago when i didnt have this..life was more easy and i could enjoy simple things,like goign to the movies,social stuff etc more.
For me,the anxiety or fear that my gf will think im weird.or will feel uncomfy with me,is killing me,and making it worse..might be even the reason it came back so bad.
Cant focus at all at work,only times im relaxed is when im home alone these days..so strange that some months ago all was fine...the insecure feeling about my gf and relationship is causing this im sure.
ah well..im hoping it will go better in due time.
I wonder how JAson is doing..cos he just started developing this,kinda like me when it all started...my tip for him is ,cos it just started..dotn think about it,dont ponder about it ...cos if u think so much and worry so much it will only get worse..think posetive,be strong. and go on with ur life like u would always have.
Kinda weird that sucha "simple "innocent"thing like swallowing,can cause so much trouble..it effected my life,social life..
miracle cure where are youuuuu :(
I hear ya with the social anxiety thingy..i always feel looked upon and judged,or think they are..
I havent gone to the doctor at all,i somehow dont want to.makes me feel im crazy if i gotta explain it and im afraid it will make it worse if i do that.
I have always been afraid to tell my past gf's about this,cos i would be afraid then they would remind me of it by just seeing them..or im afraid they will get it too..cos ive noticed some people start to do it a lil too when im around,so i guess they do notice sometimes.Wich makes me more nervous.
Somehow this thing totally makes me insecure in certain situations..right now i feel so "different"then "normal"people...and so afraid my gf will think that too and leave me or something.I misss the past ,years ago when i didnt have this..life was more easy and i could enjoy simple things,like goign to the movies,social stuff etc more.
For me,the anxiety or fear that my gf will think im weird.or will feel uncomfy with me,is killing me,and making it worse..might be even the reason it came back so bad.
Cant focus at all at work,only times im relaxed is when im home alone these days..so strange that some months ago all was fine...the insecure feeling about my gf and relationship is causing this im sure.
ah well..im hoping it will go better in due time.
I wonder how JAson is doing..cos he just started developing this,kinda like me when it all started...my tip for him is ,cos it just started..dotn think about it,dont ponder about it ...cos if u think so much and worry so much it will only get worse..think posetive,be strong. and go on with ur life like u would always have.
Kinda weird that sucha "simple "innocent"thing like swallowing,can cause so much trouble..it effected my life,social life..
miracle cure where are youuuuu :(
dannic1
08-09-2007, 10:55 PM
Do me a favor, ManX. Call Dr. Stephen Brodsky in New York.
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he is SO compassionate. He said that our form of OCD is very common and very treatable. He didn't make me feel weird or bad at all. We had a very normal conversation. In fact, my OCD was good that day. : ) He also does phone sessions, but I know that his intial consultation is $180. You can talk to him for free for a short initial consultation. He will probably recommend that you talk to someone locally in your area. If not, do the phone sessions with him - you deserve it to feel better and to get help! Heck, I'm even considering some medication, if my new specialist thinks that it will help me. Maybe our serotonin is low, 'ya know? I've conquered this problem before way back in high school and lived the majority of my years afterwards OCD free or at least with less bothersome issues. I can't stress enough to pray about this. I don't mean to impose my religious beliefs on you, but I truly believe that we must ask God for our healing and believe that He is able to heal us and that He loves us and hears our prayers for help. I always keep you and others in my prayers. I think we are just overly concerned about what others think of us and of being rejected by them. I understand about not telling your girlfriend. The ONLY person I have told, outside of any professional help like therapists, has been my mother. She asked what my symptoms were and I told her. I really kicked myself afterwards, but my mom never once judged me and has probably forgotten about what I said to her by now. Her comment to me was, "well, anyone would swallow if they think about it". To a non-OCD person, I guess it's easy just to shut it off. I know you feel "different" - I understand all too well what you are saying and I also understand how hard it is to focus sometimes at work, something I never had trouble with prior to this episode. Sometimes, though, I can get lost in my work and it gets better and I've also had some OCD free moments. I probably wouldn't tell your girlfriend and I only say that because it probably will make you more self conscious and you don't need to feel like you're drawing attention to yourself right now. At least you are maintaining your relationship with her. I'm sure she loves you and accepts you for who you are. Do you think you actually swallow a lot more than normal or it's just the act of thinking about it and being aware of it? With me, I think it's more of a "head thing", 'ya know? I just sort of "feel" the need to swallow, but it doesn't always mean that I sit there and swallow constantly. It's like the worry won't go away - that's why I think we both need therapy - I think we have to get to the root of what's behind the worry, but maybe others who have gone through therapy can add to this conclusion/theory. Don't suffer in silence anymore, ManX. Contact someone who can help you and who specializes in OCD. Dr. Brodsky is only a phone call away for you and I promise you that he won't laugh or judge you in any way. Our symptoms are in the book written by Linda Maran, Confronting the Bully of OCD, so that's telling me that there are others out there like us. I'm here, if you need to talk. I'll let you know how my therapy goes, that I start on Tuesday. I want to get well and get the appropriate help.
danni
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he is SO compassionate. He said that our form of OCD is very common and very treatable. He didn't make me feel weird or bad at all. We had a very normal conversation. In fact, my OCD was good that day. : ) He also does phone sessions, but I know that his intial consultation is $180. You can talk to him for free for a short initial consultation. He will probably recommend that you talk to someone locally in your area. If not, do the phone sessions with him - you deserve it to feel better and to get help! Heck, I'm even considering some medication, if my new specialist thinks that it will help me. Maybe our serotonin is low, 'ya know? I've conquered this problem before way back in high school and lived the majority of my years afterwards OCD free or at least with less bothersome issues. I can't stress enough to pray about this. I don't mean to impose my religious beliefs on you, but I truly believe that we must ask God for our healing and believe that He is able to heal us and that He loves us and hears our prayers for help. I always keep you and others in my prayers. I think we are just overly concerned about what others think of us and of being rejected by them. I understand about not telling your girlfriend. The ONLY person I have told, outside of any professional help like therapists, has been my mother. She asked what my symptoms were and I told her. I really kicked myself afterwards, but my mom never once judged me and has probably forgotten about what I said to her by now. Her comment to me was, "well, anyone would swallow if they think about it". To a non-OCD person, I guess it's easy just to shut it off. I know you feel "different" - I understand all too well what you are saying and I also understand how hard it is to focus sometimes at work, something I never had trouble with prior to this episode. Sometimes, though, I can get lost in my work and it gets better and I've also had some OCD free moments. I probably wouldn't tell your girlfriend and I only say that because it probably will make you more self conscious and you don't need to feel like you're drawing attention to yourself right now. At least you are maintaining your relationship with her. I'm sure she loves you and accepts you for who you are. Do you think you actually swallow a lot more than normal or it's just the act of thinking about it and being aware of it? With me, I think it's more of a "head thing", 'ya know? I just sort of "feel" the need to swallow, but it doesn't always mean that I sit there and swallow constantly. It's like the worry won't go away - that's why I think we both need therapy - I think we have to get to the root of what's behind the worry, but maybe others who have gone through therapy can add to this conclusion/theory. Don't suffer in silence anymore, ManX. Contact someone who can help you and who specializes in OCD. Dr. Brodsky is only a phone call away for you and I promise you that he won't laugh or judge you in any way. Our symptoms are in the book written by Linda Maran, Confronting the Bully of OCD, so that's telling me that there are others out there like us. I'm here, if you need to talk. I'll let you know how my therapy goes, that I start on Tuesday. I want to get well and get the appropriate help.
danni
dannic1
08-09-2007, 10:58 PM
I meant to ask you - do you have any other compulsions right now? I've noticed that I'm brushing my teeth a lot more than I normally used to do and I have this little quirk of always having to wipe drops of coffee or of lip stick off of my cups!
danni
danni
ManX
08-10-2007, 04:40 PM
Thanx for your fast respond Danni
WEll i cant call that guy in New York,cos i live in Europe,so that would be too expensive for me right now.Well i deffinitly swallow more the nnormal,and the more nervous i get the more i do it,i keep "feeling"my mouth or throat,or focus on that.When it gets really bad i swallow alot and my mouth gets so dry..and then i still swallow!wich results ina nervous kinda movement.But thats really only in extreme situations.When i feel good,confident,then i hardly have this swalllow problem..or only so lil i dont even mind..so i guess maybe we need to solve other issues in our life first.
Besides the therapist have u ever seen other people swallow alot in ur presence and thought it was cos of you ( and it was then probably) ?
As for other quirks,i was my hands alot lol or feel the need fast for it,when i for instance have poured some cola in my glass,or when i think they are dirty but they are really not lol And also i check the door if itds locked when i leave the house a couple of times.
Ive also noticed that when i slept only a few hours and feel really tired,the OCD really kicks in,even the old ones that i got rid of years ago.But then the next day when i sleep good,and eat good..i totally dont have it anymore.
Too bad u live far away,cos i always wondered how it would be if i was in the presence of some1 who got this swallow problem too,and to talk then about it.
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Anyways,i'm really happy for u that u had years without this ocd thingy.
For me the last 4 years were almost ocd swalow free.But on some level i am always aware of it,so it never is really totally away..and always in situations where i was not comfy i might get it a lil worse ..but then i would see it just as a nervous tick,so i didnt care..and then i could just "snap"out of it.
I'm still confident that if i could be almost without this problem or at least to a level where it doesnt bother me,for 4 years..then i can do so again. :cool:
Well if i was religious i'd pray for you,but i'm not sorry.But i wish the best for you.Eventho at these times i got this OCD thingy pretty bad,i still feel good about the fact that i found some people with the same problem or atleast similar as mine.
MAnX
;)
WEll i cant call that guy in New York,cos i live in Europe,so that would be too expensive for me right now.Well i deffinitly swallow more the nnormal,and the more nervous i get the more i do it,i keep "feeling"my mouth or throat,or focus on that.When it gets really bad i swallow alot and my mouth gets so dry..and then i still swallow!wich results ina nervous kinda movement.But thats really only in extreme situations.When i feel good,confident,then i hardly have this swalllow problem..or only so lil i dont even mind..so i guess maybe we need to solve other issues in our life first.
Besides the therapist have u ever seen other people swallow alot in ur presence and thought it was cos of you ( and it was then probably) ?
As for other quirks,i was my hands alot lol or feel the need fast for it,when i for instance have poured some cola in my glass,or when i think they are dirty but they are really not lol And also i check the door if itds locked when i leave the house a couple of times.
Ive also noticed that when i slept only a few hours and feel really tired,the OCD really kicks in,even the old ones that i got rid of years ago.But then the next day when i sleep good,and eat good..i totally dont have it anymore.
Too bad u live far away,cos i always wondered how it would be if i was in the presence of some1 who got this swallow problem too,and to talk then about it.
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Anyways,i'm really happy for u that u had years without this ocd thingy.
For me the last 4 years were almost ocd swalow free.But on some level i am always aware of it,so it never is really totally away..and always in situations where i was not comfy i might get it a lil worse ..but then i would see it just as a nervous tick,so i didnt care..and then i could just "snap"out of it.
I'm still confident that if i could be almost without this problem or at least to a level where it doesnt bother me,for 4 years..then i can do so again. :cool:
Well if i was religious i'd pray for you,but i'm not sorry.But i wish the best for you.Eventho at these times i got this OCD thingy pretty bad,i still feel good about the fact that i found some people with the same problem or atleast similar as mine.
MAnX
;)
dannic1
08-15-2007, 12:31 AM
ManX,
Well, I saw the new OCD therapist today and I feel very confident in her helping me out. She didn't necessarily label it as OCD. In fact, she emphasized that the label itself isn't really important. She feels that there are issues in my life that have triggered anxiety in me again. She also thinks that I feel a lot of guilt over the internet relationship(s). She asked me to shut the door on the current on that I am in, because it's just adding to an already complicated situation that I have with my daughter's father. She is going to help me to work on personal issues, as well as to learn relaxation techniques and possibly do some ERP therapy.
No, I don't feel that people swallow more than normal in my presence. I can control my swallowing in front of people. I have found myself actually talking to someone and then afterwards thinking, wow, I totally didn't even think about the swallowing this time. When I do chew gum, I get almost total relief -odd, I know, but true. I have somehow trained my brain to re-focus itself - kind of like a security blanket - hard to explain. I know you mentioned that you don't believe in prayer, but for me, my faith in God is everything to me. I have actually been feeling better every day - having more and more moments where I forget about the swallowing. I have been praying daily and speaking positive confessions over my life. : ) I will continue to pray for you, my friend. I have seen improvements in my life.
If you can't call Dr. Brodsky, ManX, please call a therapist to help you through this. It sounds like a lot of anxiety to me. You mentioned yourself that your internet relationship was making it worse/made it come back - think you had also said that when you're feeling confident and comfy, that it goes away. I think those are key points to bring up and explore with someone. Please promise me that you will do that. Think how liberating it will feel? I was totally without the swallowing problem on the drive home from the psychologist's office. I am having more and more moments of totally forgetting about it. Medication could also be a possibility, but you have to seek out some sort of help, I feel.
danni
Well, I saw the new OCD therapist today and I feel very confident in her helping me out. She didn't necessarily label it as OCD. In fact, she emphasized that the label itself isn't really important. She feels that there are issues in my life that have triggered anxiety in me again. She also thinks that I feel a lot of guilt over the internet relationship(s). She asked me to shut the door on the current on that I am in, because it's just adding to an already complicated situation that I have with my daughter's father. She is going to help me to work on personal issues, as well as to learn relaxation techniques and possibly do some ERP therapy.
No, I don't feel that people swallow more than normal in my presence. I can control my swallowing in front of people. I have found myself actually talking to someone and then afterwards thinking, wow, I totally didn't even think about the swallowing this time. When I do chew gum, I get almost total relief -odd, I know, but true. I have somehow trained my brain to re-focus itself - kind of like a security blanket - hard to explain. I know you mentioned that you don't believe in prayer, but for me, my faith in God is everything to me. I have actually been feeling better every day - having more and more moments where I forget about the swallowing. I have been praying daily and speaking positive confessions over my life. : ) I will continue to pray for you, my friend. I have seen improvements in my life.
If you can't call Dr. Brodsky, ManX, please call a therapist to help you through this. It sounds like a lot of anxiety to me. You mentioned yourself that your internet relationship was making it worse/made it come back - think you had also said that when you're feeling confident and comfy, that it goes away. I think those are key points to bring up and explore with someone. Please promise me that you will do that. Think how liberating it will feel? I was totally without the swallowing problem on the drive home from the psychologist's office. I am having more and more moments of totally forgetting about it. Medication could also be a possibility, but you have to seek out some sort of help, I feel.
danni
ManX
08-15-2007, 07:52 AM
Ok thanks for ur response and prayer
I'm thinking of going to the doctor this week and ask for medication for this,it might give that extra boost to help me
I'm thinking of going to the doctor this week and ask for medication for this,it might give that extra boost to help me
dannic1
08-19-2007, 06:07 PM
I'm so very proud of you. Let me know how it goes. I think we are just anxious, which I know that OCD is an anxiety disorder. I had this problem gone for 26 years, so I lived a good part of my life "normal" before it came back. I'm working with a new OCD specialist to try and overcome it. She's not necessarily labeling it as "OCD" - she says that it's not important what we label it - I'm experiencing anxiety and underlying problems and we need to treat it. I'll let you know how I do.
danni
danni