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yacketycat
08-23-2007, 01:30 PM
... 'cause the doctors don't seem to be doing much good.

I have what appears to be an obvious hormonal imbalance (but the kind that doesn't seem to show up clearly on basic tests, compounding my frustration). For the same two weeks out of every month, I can almost literally feel my hormone levels shifting... one minute I'm fine, and the next I am a panicked, moody, sick-as-a-dog mess. I'll have panic attacks/agoraphobia so severe that I will have to pull over to the side of the road while I'm driving, and scream and cry and call everyone I know; or, less frequently, I'll be incredibly depressed, to the point where I can barely function. Then, magically, once my period ends, the switch is flipped and I return to a pretty normal state of being. Antidepressants have not helped the panic, and some have actually made me depressed when I wasn't. Needless to say, I have felt like maybe the pill could "level things off".

However, I am growing increasingly frustrated with spending time and money trying out all the different pills that my doctors have given me that actually exacerbated the problem, and I feel like I need to do all the research and work myself. Unfortunately, that has also been exhausting and I'm getting mixed opinions everywhere I look. First, I found several articles stating that low estrogen levels are a cause of depression and anxiety, then several stating the opposite. Anyone know which is true?

I suppose I should start with an overview of what I've taken over the years... the first I ever took, Triphasil-28, caused me absolutely no ill effects whatsoever, other than a weight gain of maybe 5 pounds. (Of course, this was in the pre-panic/depression era for me, but I did have a propensity toward those things). I was on it for almost two years, but it wasn't in my formulary when I switched insurance. I was put on Tri-Levlen, which my doc insisted was exactly the same as Triphasil. NOPE. Two years of daily crying, a 40-pound weight gain, and a whole lot of other misery later, it occurred to me that maybe it was the pill. I stopped it, and was more or less okay for about three years.

About six years ago, I started to develop panic disorder, but did not notice the correlation cycle-wise until about two years ago. My periods also had become a lot worse during that time - I'd always had some problems, but not consistently, and heavy periods/PMS run in my family. So, realizing this might not be a coincidence, I convinced both my doctor and my OB/Gyn to knock it off with the antidepressants (which, as I mentioned, did not help one bit) and try the pill on me. I can't even remember which ones I've tried, but I went through four (Aviane rings a bell...), and all of them somehow managed to cause a depression I didn't even have, and make the bleeding worse - after a month of which I would have to give up on the pill because I was too sick and depressed to even go to work. (As a single woman living alone, being debilitated for any amount of time is not an option for me.) The most recent one I've tried, which I was extremely excited about, was Yaz... I'm stopping it after eight days. I know you're supposed to wait out the side effects, but I've had such severe intestinal cramps I can't eat; I have a really impressive combination of sudden major depression and serious anxiety; I can't sleep; I have a UTI (totally out of nowhere), headaches and a fever; and tonight I developed a sore throat that feels like strep. There is no way I can keep going like this.

So, you may ask, why not just go back on the Triphasil? Well, I'm told it's back-ordered for pretty much the rest of all existence. Fantastic!

Okay, that was long, but... I'm at the end of my rope and looking for someone who might have had a similar experience to me, and who can tell me if there is a pill I can try that isn't going to make me miserable. I know I need to be on something, but I just don't know what... but I can't afford to do the trial-and-error thing anymore or I'm going to either end up in the psych ward or lose my job.

Xant
08-23-2007, 02:49 PM
I am just wondering if you have ever tried some natural remedies. I know, for instance evening primrose oil, dong quai and black cohosh have been proven to help PMT, St Johns Wart has been proven to work just as well as anti-depressives (and is not addicting).

These remedies take a few months to work though, but I guess normal meds do to?

Hope you can find something to help :)

yacketycat
08-23-2007, 02:53 PM
Thank you for the reply. :) I hadn't heard much about those, but will gladly look into them.

I also just discovered something interesting: the days of the month that I feel great are the days when my estrogen levels would be highest, and the days that I feel the worst are the high-progesterone days. Unfortunately, the pills I've tried seem to be high-progesterone and low-estrogen (as most are now, because of the risks associated with high-estrogen pills). Curious to know if there is at least a very low-progesterone pill out there, since that is starting to look like a big factor.

mayam
08-23-2007, 04:22 PM
Is there a hormone clinic in your area? i would think you need specialist edocrinologist advice instead of all the trial and error. This is what helped cure my horrific PMS and i was given progesterone patches after a lot of history taking and tests. It would help if you make a note of your symptoms in a diary when they occur.
p/s do not take St Johns Wort with the pill as it makes it less effective.

spyfferoni
08-23-2007, 04:37 PM
I have heard a lot of women have had great results with Bio-identical hormones. There is a Dr called Dr. Erika who has treated a lot of women and written books on the subject---you could look her up.

Also, Have you had your thyroid checked??? Have your hormones been checked at different times during your cycle? I want a divorce and can't stand my kids about 1 to 2 weeks every month. I recently found out I have thyroid problems.
I'm still not great, but things are much better than they were before I started taking medicine.

Good Luck!

Tyff

yacketycat
08-23-2007, 07:18 PM
First of all, I want to say thanks again to everyone who has responded. You are all wonderful! :)

As for the endocrine doc... I have tried to get a referral to one, but neither my OB/Gyn nor my GP have given me one, because they have done basic thyroid/hormonal bloodwork and both have come back normal. Of course, there were never followup tests at different points in the cycle, and everything probably was normal when I was checked out at those times. I have heard that variations in sub-levels (forgive me if I am using the incorrect term) can cause problems, though. Doctors frustrate me!!!

I have also read about a saliva test that can detect hormonal fluctuations and I am curious to know if anyone has had this done as well.

oceanbeachchill
04-28-2008, 01:44 PM
yacketycat,

did you ever find a pill to help your PMS. I am in the same boat as you were and I cannot take it!

Please help.

thank you.

gamecock360
05-01-2008, 07:54 PM
Doctors frustrate me too. I have been on one pill for a year. Started having migraines about 9 months into the pill. This past visit my doctor pulled me off the pill to see if that was causing it. (I was on it because my periods are also horrible.) My doctor is saying if my migraines go away off the pill I will never be able to take the pill because the low estrogen is the contributing factor in a lot of symptoms/problems.
Needless to say she won't give me medicine for the migraines either.

As far as the 1 to 2 weeks out of the month I feel crazy too. Crying one moment and angry the next. If you find a remedy to that let me know!
Hugs in the meantime that you find relief....

 
 
 




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