KyleG
08-25-2007, 04:37 AM
My ENT thinks I have LPR and I am taking Prevacid and Xantac. I have allergies and chronic post nasal drip.
I have had a never ending post nasal drip since I was little I need to know this one thing to possibly determine what exactly is going on.
If I had chronic post nasal drip ever since I was little that is constantly going down into my stomach 24/7 will it cause stomach problems or GERD.
Is there actually EVIDENCE of this. Have studies been done that actually prove this? I really need to know so when I go back to my ENT we can treat this properly.
I have had a never ending post nasal drip since I was little I need to know this one thing to possibly determine what exactly is going on.
If I had chronic post nasal drip ever since I was little that is constantly going down into my stomach 24/7 will it cause stomach problems or GERD.
Is there actually EVIDENCE of this. Have studies been done that actually prove this? I really need to know so when I go back to my ENT we can treat this properly.
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CharBerry
08-28-2007, 12:58 PM
I think it's very possible. I never had allergies/asthma till the GERD thing. My stomach got better but ended up with the LPR, which is a lot worse than regular acid reflux. I took allergy shots for years and last test showed little allergies but I have constanct PND or sinus problems. I'm just not sure what came first....the allergies or the reflux. I do know the symptoms of LPR are sometimes the same.
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Sannah
08-29-2007, 09:44 AM
Yes, our doc told us that PND can cause stomach problems. I have also heard that reflux can cause sinus problems. I have never understood this one though. Can the acid get all the way up in your sinuses when you sleep or something? How are you treating your allergies and what are you allergic to?
mkgbrook
08-29-2007, 09:52 AM
Yes.
PND is linked to gastric distress.. even chronic acid reflux... sleep apnea and other sleep disorders.. etc.
To summarize what is going on. When mucus drains into your stomach it triggers the stomach to believe something is there to digest.. then the stomach produces additional acid.. unfortunately.. the mucus just hangs about and does not neutralize the acid. In the case of PND where the acid production is chronic for all us allergy ridden individuals.. the acid can reach such a high level of production that it overflows or refluxes up into your esophagus and airways.. making the PND worse and creating a never ending cycle that often requires sinus surgery in conjunction with acid reflux treatment. Also if your stomach becomes overloaded with acid some people experience loss of appetite because you are full of mucus and/or vomiting to discharge your stomach of the excess mucus burden.
Sincerely,
MG
PND is linked to gastric distress.. even chronic acid reflux... sleep apnea and other sleep disorders.. etc.
To summarize what is going on. When mucus drains into your stomach it triggers the stomach to believe something is there to digest.. then the stomach produces additional acid.. unfortunately.. the mucus just hangs about and does not neutralize the acid. In the case of PND where the acid production is chronic for all us allergy ridden individuals.. the acid can reach such a high level of production that it overflows or refluxes up into your esophagus and airways.. making the PND worse and creating a never ending cycle that often requires sinus surgery in conjunction with acid reflux treatment. Also if your stomach becomes overloaded with acid some people experience loss of appetite because you are full of mucus and/or vomiting to discharge your stomach of the excess mucus burden.
Sincerely,
MG
help wanted :(
09-02-2007, 10:07 AM
could PND be respinsible for lots of stomach noise and wind?
Saverain
09-03-2007, 03:03 AM
First of all are you sure its your stomach and not your intestines, colon. Do you know why u have PND? It's probably allergies/intolerances to foods. Your probably draining bacause your digestive system is damaged and not digesting your food right. Are you intolerant to dairy and grains? Your digestive system may be damaged because of caffeine, chocolate or spicy foods.
help wanted :(
09-03-2007, 02:28 PM
im pretty sure its all 3. no, im waiting for my ENT appointment to try figure that out!
KyleG
09-04-2007, 11:56 PM
First of all are you sure its your stomach and not your intestines, colon. Do you know why u have PND? It's probably allergies/intolerances to foods. Your probably draining bacause your digestive system is damaged and not digesting your food right. Are you intolerant to dairy and grains? Your digestive system may be damaged because of caffeine, chocolate or spicy foods.
I do have allergies but even when they aren't bothering me I still have PND. I also have gastro-something (forgot name) where the food doesn't digest properly, my doctor said my digestion was delayed or w/e. Dairy products are said to worsen allergies therefore I do not drink milk anymore but I eat anything else that is dairy with no problem.
None of my doctors mentioned anything of the intestines and colon, and how would those organs even cause this?
I do have allergies but even when they aren't bothering me I still have PND. I also have gastro-something (forgot name) where the food doesn't digest properly, my doctor said my digestion was delayed or w/e. Dairy products are said to worsen allergies therefore I do not drink milk anymore but I eat anything else that is dairy with no problem.
None of my doctors mentioned anything of the intestines and colon, and how would those organs even cause this?
mkgbrook
09-05-2007, 09:54 AM
Intestines and colon with improper bacterial and flora balances can cause bowel issues like gas and bloating. I think that is what was being referred to there. I good way to make sure you are balanced on the back end is fiber and probiotic tablets. Stop the fiber when thins break loose figuratively speaking.. the probiotics can take a month to balance... especially if you have been doing heavy antibiotics. 28 days of Avelox, levaquin, cipro.. they all ripe your GI tract a new one.
SIncerely,
MG
SIncerely,
MG
KyleG
09-05-2007, 08:22 PM
Intestines and colon with improper bacterial and flora balances can cause bowel issues like gas and bloating. I think that is what was being referred to there. I good way to make sure you are balanced on the back end is fiber and probiotic tablets. Stop the fiber when thins break loose figuratively speaking.. the probiotics can take a month to balance... especially if you have been doing heavy antibiotics. 28 days of Avelox, levaquin, cipro.. they all ripe your GI tract a new one.
SIncerely,
MG
What kind of tests would have to be performed to determine if there is something wrong in the intestines and colon?
SIncerely,
MG
What kind of tests would have to be performed to determine if there is something wrong in the intestines and colon?
Saverain
09-05-2007, 08:52 PM
What kind of tests would have to be performed to determine if there is something wrong in the intestines and colon?
I don't know of any tests, there are signs. Like your bowel movements and what they look like and so forth. Along with your symptoms of running nose after eating foods. I would say stay off of those foods and rebuild the good bacteria in your stomach by eating nonfat plain cultured yogurt with fruit. You can find it at any grocery store. I've been through the whole thing and now my nose doesn't run anymore. What works great is adding in shell mixed nuts to your diet.
I don't know of any tests, there are signs. Like your bowel movements and what they look like and so forth. Along with your symptoms of running nose after eating foods. I would say stay off of those foods and rebuild the good bacteria in your stomach by eating nonfat plain cultured yogurt with fruit. You can find it at any grocery store. I've been through the whole thing and now my nose doesn't run anymore. What works great is adding in shell mixed nuts to your diet.
mkgbrook
09-06-2007, 10:59 AM
Well I am sure that they test stool samples for parasites.. and there is the good old fashioned barium swallow 24 hour fasting colonoscopy.. my father had this done for prostate issues. I would try and see if something like probiotics helps you out first. Having the rear end evaluated in another fashion can be invasive and uncomfortable.
Sincerely,
MG
Sincerely,
MG
KyleG
09-06-2007, 08:02 PM
I don't know of any tests, there are signs. Like your bowel movements and what they look like and so forth. Along with your symptoms of running nose after eating foods. I would say stay off of those foods and rebuild the good bacteria in your stomach by eating nonfat plain cultured yogurt with fruit. You can find it at any grocery store. I've been through the whole thing and now my nose doesn't run anymore. What works great is adding in shell mixed nuts to your diet.
I never mentioned having a running nose after eating foods. I do not have any food allergies at all.
I was doing some research and thought about the good bacteria being destroyed in the stomach by antibiotics.
I take antibiotics once a year every year since I was a little kid. Now I don't know but, is that normal to take it once a year? Because antibiotics destroy good bacteria and I never really had a diet or did anything specific to replace them (since I was little) is it possible it has done some damage? What kind of damage do you think?
I never mentioned having a running nose after eating foods. I do not have any food allergies at all.
I was doing some research and thought about the good bacteria being destroyed in the stomach by antibiotics.
I take antibiotics once a year every year since I was a little kid. Now I don't know but, is that normal to take it once a year? Because antibiotics destroy good bacteria and I never really had a diet or did anything specific to replace them (since I was little) is it possible it has done some damage? What kind of damage do you think?
Sannah
09-07-2007, 02:57 PM
Hi Kyle, the antibiotics just unbalance your normal flora and then your gut doesn't work as well nor your immune system because your gut is where your immune cells are. Just eat yogurt or take probiotics everyday when you are on antibiotics. There is a test to check the flora in your gut. It is a stool analysis. My daughter had it done. I would imagine that only alternative docs would do this test but I am not sure. If you think that your normal flora is out of whack just do what everyone here has been saying - eat yogurt or take probiotics daily.
Saverain
09-07-2007, 03:58 PM
What are your allergies, have you been tested for allergies? If not I'd say, first thing get tested.
KyleG
09-07-2007, 10:17 PM
What are your allergies, have you been tested for allergies? If not I'd say, first thing get tested.
I had taken an allergy test when I was younger and I am sceduled to do so again next month. I can't remember exactly what I am allergic to but it's basically the regular allergens most ppl have like pollen dust ragweed animal etc
I had taken an allergy test when I was younger and I am sceduled to do so again next month. I can't remember exactly what I am allergic to but it's basically the regular allergens most ppl have like pollen dust ragweed animal etc
KyleG
09-07-2007, 11:01 PM
What are your allergies, have you been tested for allergies? If not I'd say, first thing get tested.
I had taken an allergy test when I was younger and I am sceduled to do so again next month. I can't remember exactly what I am allergic to but it's basically the regular allergens most ppl have like pollen dust ragweed animal etc
I had taken an allergy test when I was younger and I am sceduled to do so again next month. I can't remember exactly what I am allergic to but it's basically the regular allergens most ppl have like pollen dust ragweed animal etc
KyleG
09-17-2007, 12:20 AM
Ipratropium Bromide Nasal Solution is what I am going to try next. Has anyone ever tried this nasal spray? Has it had any improvement with the PND?
Amy26
09-21-2007, 02:33 PM
I have very bad PND as well but I am also a walking allergy... I'm allergic to everything... :)
It does and will cause stomach issues and give you diahrea ... it doesn't really bother my stomach but it does mess with my intestines. My ENT put me on Veramyst and it seems to be getting better but I'm still swallowing it a lot.
I also have a reflux problem and a deviated septum which is not helping matters either.
It does and will cause stomach issues and give you diahrea ... it doesn't really bother my stomach but it does mess with my intestines. My ENT put me on Veramyst and it seems to be getting better but I'm still swallowing it a lot.
I also have a reflux problem and a deviated septum which is not helping matters either.
sarasane
09-23-2007, 03:27 PM
My ENT thinks I have LPR and I am taking Prevacid and Xantac. I have allergies and chronic post nasal drip.
I have had a never ending post nasal drip since I was little I need to know this one thing to possibly determine what exactly is going on.
If I had chronic post nasal drip ever since I was little that is constantly going down into my stomach 24/7 will it cause stomach problems or GERD.
Is there actually EVIDENCE of this. Have studies been done that actually prove this? I really need to know so when I go back to my ENT we can treat this properly.
I don't know if others have mentioned this but the newest GERD drugs act on one of the histamine receptors while antishistamines act on another. So yeah, they're definitely related.
I have had a never ending post nasal drip since I was little I need to know this one thing to possibly determine what exactly is going on.
If I had chronic post nasal drip ever since I was little that is constantly going down into my stomach 24/7 will it cause stomach problems or GERD.
Is there actually EVIDENCE of this. Have studies been done that actually prove this? I really need to know so when I go back to my ENT we can treat this properly.
I don't know if others have mentioned this but the newest GERD drugs act on one of the histamine receptors while antishistamines act on another. So yeah, they're definitely related.
fight2getbetter
07-30-2008, 01:59 PM
I've been dealing with post nasal drip problems since I was pregnant back in 2006. My whole preg. I was on antibiotics for the whole 6 mths that I was preg. I had my daughter prematurely. I still suffered with this long after the birth. I doctor first though it was my allergies and then acid reflux. I been on several different allergy medical and it did not make a difference. I had an upper GI done Mar 08 and it was determined that I had severe acid reflux and a hiatal hernia. I've been on 5 different medications for get some type of relief but I did not have much luck. I am currently on 80mg Zegerid x2 a day, 300mg zantac x2 a day, and .375mg Hyomax-sr x2 a day. I was still suffering after all of this. I have been on acid reflux medication for over 2 yrs. I was complaining about how my quality of life sucks one day and someone told me to try Super Digestive Enzymes and Papaya Enzyme from GNC and I was see a world of differs. I this point I was willing to try anything. I went directly to the store after work and bought some. After taking the Super Digestive Enzymes I starting burping allot more then normal for the 1st min. but then after that it went away. After about the second day I felt 50% better. Instead of spitting, swallowing hunks of mucus, and blowing my nose all day, it was reduced to just in morning. I've been taking these pills for a week and a half and it has been a life saving. If anyone one have this problem, I recommend using these pills. I was to the point that I refused to have another child because of what I went through and continued to go through long after, but I think I will re-think that position now. I have an appt. set to talk to my doctor to see if I can continue to take these pills while I am preg. I hope this helps everyone. I WANT TO THANK THE LORD FOR PUTTING ME IN THE RIGHT PLACE AT THE RIGHT TIME. IF I WASN'T FOR THE STRANGER GIVING ME THIS ADVICE, I WOULD STILL HATE WAKING UP EVERYDAY.
KyleG
08-01-2008, 03:16 AM
I've been dealing with post nasal drip problems since I was pregnant back in 2006. My whole preg. I was on antibiotics for the whole 6 mths that I was preg. I had my daughter prematurely. I still suffered with this long after the birth. I doctor first though it was my allergies and then acid reflux. I been on several different allergy medical and it did not make a difference. I had an upper GI done Mar 08 and it was determined that I had severe acid reflux and a hiatal hernia. I've been on 5 different medications for get some type of relief but I did not have much luck. I am currently on 80mg Zegerid x2 a day, 300mg zantac x2 a day, and .375mg Hyomax-sr x2 a day. I was still suffering after all of this. I have been on acid reflux medication for over 2 yrs. I was complaining about how my quality of life sucks one day and someone told me to try Super Digestive Enzymes and Papaya Enzyme from GNC and I was see a world of differs. I this point I was willing to try anything. I went directly to the store after work and bought some. After taking the Super Digestive Enzymes I starting burping allot more then normal for the 1st min. but then after that it went away. After about the second day I felt 50% better. Instead of spitting, swallowing hunks of mucus, and blowing my nose all day, it was reduced to just in morning. I've been taking these pills for a week and a half and it has been a life saving. If anyone one have this problem, I recommend using these pills. I was to the point that I refused to have another child because of what I went through and continued to go through long after, but I think I will re-think that position now. I have an appt. set to talk to my doctor to see if I can continue to take these pills while I am preg. I hope this helps everyone. I WANT TO THANK THE LORD FOR PUTTING ME IN THE RIGHT PLACE AT THE RIGHT TIME. IF I WASN'T FOR THE STRANGER GIVING ME THIS ADVICE, I WOULD STILL HATE WAKING UP EVERYDAY.
wait...so basically these pills you took STOPPED post nasal drip? I have extremely bad allergies which results in alot of post nasal drip. It irritates my stomach and also with my gag reflex which I am going to a doctor next week to see about because my gag reflex is so strong and it gets triggered by the post nasal drip.
So did this pills help in stopping post nasal drip or is it that they helped your stomach not be so sensitive to it?
wait...so basically these pills you took STOPPED post nasal drip? I have extremely bad allergies which results in alot of post nasal drip. It irritates my stomach and also with my gag reflex which I am going to a doctor next week to see about because my gag reflex is so strong and it gets triggered by the post nasal drip.
So did this pills help in stopping post nasal drip or is it that they helped your stomach not be so sensitive to it?
sunshine123
08-01-2008, 08:23 PM
I've had bad year round allergies all my life. For 10 years, I got allergy shots. I got sick of getting them and the expense, so I stopped going. Well, now my allergies are really bad again with the runny nose, PND, slight cough. I also have GERD and believe the 2 are related. Someone referred to their nose running when they eat? That just started happening to me again. It's really annoying. I've been taking 50 mgs. Benadryl at a time. It helps somewhat. If I get really fed up, I'll go see the ENT Dr. That may be happening sooner rather than later!!!!:(
TEdds83
08-03-2008, 12:36 AM
I have been taking the digestive enzymes as much as I can. I keep them in my purse. They really do help and I would highly recommend them.
sunshine123
08-03-2008, 01:09 AM
which digestive enzymes do you take?
footsiedee
08-03-2008, 04:48 AM
GERD, postnasal drip go hand in hand, sometimes with asthma. it is complicated. but have you changed your diet, or done the things regularily recommended by docs for GERD? i finally saw an ear, nose , throat doc. he recommended this new nasal wash that involves placing a packet of premeasured pulmicort granules into distilled water into a special bottle and spraying in the nostrils. he says once i try it i'll never want to 'go back' (to the nasonex i am on) as in addition to the medicine you are moisturizing the sinus's. i put off getting it because i am sick of paying more and more money for stuff not covered on my medical. but i think this week i will get some and try. i dont know if the nasal drip "causes" stomach problems, but the acid reflux does, and they are connected somehow.
KyleG
08-04-2008, 03:11 PM
I have been taking the digestive enzymes as much as I can. I keep them in my purse. They really do help and I would highly recommend them.
which digestive enzymes did you take and did they help you with post nasal drip or just acid reflux?
which digestive enzymes did you take and did they help you with post nasal drip or just acid reflux?
legaleagle01
08-06-2008, 12:54 PM
Kyle,
I find myself taking Prilosec and decongestants twice daily its the only way I cn control the PND. If I only take prilosec it doesn' help the lump in the throat sensation but it goes away with the decongestant so I agree. My PND and LPR seem to go hand in hand. Do you experience bad breath? I experience horrible breath from the congestion and the acid reflux. Its gotten slightly better since I started the meds back it gets better daily but without the meds it starts up again. I am unsure how long it takes using both to get rid of it fully but i plan to try 2-3 weeks of using them both, I only feel normal with them both.
I find myself taking Prilosec and decongestants twice daily its the only way I cn control the PND. If I only take prilosec it doesn' help the lump in the throat sensation but it goes away with the decongestant so I agree. My PND and LPR seem to go hand in hand. Do you experience bad breath? I experience horrible breath from the congestion and the acid reflux. Its gotten slightly better since I started the meds back it gets better daily but without the meds it starts up again. I am unsure how long it takes using both to get rid of it fully but i plan to try 2-3 weeks of using them both, I only feel normal with them both.
KyleG
08-07-2008, 03:12 AM
i used to be on some medicine for acid reflux a while ago but I haven't taken any recently. I take an antihistamine once in a while but that usually never stops the PND. I am going to a doctor in philly this friday to figure out why the PND is affecting my gag reflex so much.
I've read in a book about PND and Acid reflux and its a continuous cycle. When the mucous drains into your stomach it isn't easily broken down by acid. If your someone who has allergies or what ever that causes alot of post nasal drip, all that stuff gets in your stomach which causes your stomach to create much more acid than it should eventually causing acid reflux which causes more PND. It is a horrible cycle.
The only way I can see of treating that is to try and get rid of the PND and then treat the stomach. Unfortunetly for me I have really bad allergies but they are under control since I am taking shots but my post nasal drip hasn't stopped or lessened.
I've read in a book about PND and Acid reflux and its a continuous cycle. When the mucous drains into your stomach it isn't easily broken down by acid. If your someone who has allergies or what ever that causes alot of post nasal drip, all that stuff gets in your stomach which causes your stomach to create much more acid than it should eventually causing acid reflux which causes more PND. It is a horrible cycle.
The only way I can see of treating that is to try and get rid of the PND and then treat the stomach. Unfortunetly for me I have really bad allergies but they are under control since I am taking shots but my post nasal drip hasn't stopped or lessened.
gcsmithjr
08-07-2008, 08:06 AM
KyleG-
I agree that the Post Nasal Drip-acid reflux link can be a vicious cycle, but over the last couple of years researchers have discovered that acid reflux (specifically LPR) can be a primary cause of PND. You might try focusing on getting the acid reflux under control to see if controlling the reflux helps lessen the PND, particularly if you have an over-reactive gag reflex.
It may be that the acid reflux is actually a cause of your PND, not the result of it.
I agree that the Post Nasal Drip-acid reflux link can be a vicious cycle, but over the last couple of years researchers have discovered that acid reflux (specifically LPR) can be a primary cause of PND. You might try focusing on getting the acid reflux under control to see if controlling the reflux helps lessen the PND, particularly if you have an over-reactive gag reflex.
It may be that the acid reflux is actually a cause of your PND, not the result of it.
KyleG
08-10-2008, 02:13 AM
I went to a doc in philly about my gag reflex problem yesterday. She basically said that it was the acid reflux causing it and not PND which my dad and I later both agreed that that cant be it. She also mentioned that my adenoids are slightly larger than usual. She gave me a prescription for Omeprozol except instead of 1 pill I have to take 2.
Since she mentioned the adenoids I am starting to research more about it and see if I can find anything. I noticed that the adenoids are right above and behind the uvula which is where the PND is dripping down and triggering the gag reflex.
My dad had a theory that maybe the adenoids are blocking the flow of post nasal drip causing it to drip down in large quantities. Anyone here know anything about adenoids that relates to post nasal drip or gagging? I need as much info as I can about this
Since she mentioned the adenoids I am starting to research more about it and see if I can find anything. I noticed that the adenoids are right above and behind the uvula which is where the PND is dripping down and triggering the gag reflex.
My dad had a theory that maybe the adenoids are blocking the flow of post nasal drip causing it to drip down in large quantities. Anyone here know anything about adenoids that relates to post nasal drip or gagging? I need as much info as I can about this
TEdds83
08-10-2008, 11:03 AM
The Digestive enzymes I take are called food enzymes from Nature's Sunshine. They keep you ph balanced and help you digest your food. You take 2 before each meal. I expecially take them if I know I am going to have something that is a little hard to digest. They really do work. About the pnd thing....I am not sure if they work on that. I do know having pnd can make your tummy upset. I suppose it wouldn't hurt and maybe it really would help.:angel:
KyleG
08-13-2008, 03:09 AM
The Digestive enzymes I take are called food enzymes from Nature's Sunshine. They keep you ph balanced and help you digest your food. You take 2 before each meal. I expecially take them if I know I am going to have something that is a little hard to digest. They really do work. About the pnd thing....I am not sure if they work on that. I do know having pnd can make your tummy upset. I suppose it wouldn't hurt and maybe it really would help.:angel:
so after taking them? how did you know they were working?
Mainly, what symptoms of acid reflux did it help? Like nausea or heartburn or everything?
so after taking them? how did you know they were working?
Mainly, what symptoms of acid reflux did it help? Like nausea or heartburn or everything?
TEdds83
08-15-2008, 06:13 PM
I have just noticed over time the reflux just is mild and sometimes completely gone. It was a process. It didn't go away in one meal. But if you stay on those and watch what you are eating you really should notice a difference. I think that it helps the body heal. I just know that is what it did for me. I haven't had a prilosec in a couple weeks now.
KyleG
08-25-2008, 03:25 AM
i know theres alot of alternate medicine stuff to take for reflux but has anyone tried Manuka Honey and Chlorophyll? I took these a few years ago but this was way before I even knew I had reflux. I took it because I THOUGHT I had it so I don't really know if it works but my problems at that time was a combination of anxiety and reflux.