Red60
08-31-2007, 10:32 PM
Does anyone have any knowledge of the effects of a no grain diet on lipid profiles? A few month ago I change my diet because of some digestive issues and I wondering what the effect on cholesterol might be. Basicly I'm eating fruit, vegatables (mixed greens mostly), almonds, eggs (high omega three type), fish(sockeye salmon), hard cheeses and white chicken. No breads, cereals, milk or processed foods. My last cholesterol test about 10 months ago while on a low fat diet had these results.
TC 198
LDL 142
LDL 27
TG 145
VLDL 29
At that time my weight was 165
BP 125/82
Present weight is 149
BP 104/68
Any ideas on what to expect?
Guy1_USA
09-01-2007, 12:27 AM
First of all... great job on your all your numbers... all of them!
My guess is your cholesterol will improve a bit or stay the same. I don't think it will get worse. Carbs tend to raise cholesterol numbers... so cutting out grain should be just fine.
Good luck. :)
Red60
09-01-2007, 09:58 AM
VentureMan thanks for the input. As you know my HDL numbers stink. I hope this diet will improve them and possibly lower the TG some. I've read your posts on niacin and that's probably what it's going to take to get my HDL even close to 40. The biggest suprise to me was the way my blood pressure responded to this change in diet. At work we have one of the BP monitoring machines simular to what a lot of Wallmarts have so I've been taking advantage of it for the last year getting readings a few times a day. Two weeks after cutting out the grain my BP and heart rate dropped significantly. I know it wasn't the machine because other peoples reading remained steady. I've just switched doctors and I'm hoping he'll approve another lipid pnl test so I can see what the changes have been. Thanks..............Red
Lutheran122
09-01-2007, 02:20 PM
So now eating whole grain food is not good for you lol , I am telling you its impossible to know what is good and what is bad for me anymore..ornish and other vegan based diets tell you no nuts , no olive oil , no fish , no avocado yet others say the good fats are great for you...then other say even the good fats can negatively effect the lineing of the arterys...i sometimes feel like just eating my butt off till I drop dead.
Red60
09-01-2007, 03:33 PM
So now eating whole grain food is not good for you lol , I am telling you its impossible to know what is good and what is bad for me anymore..ornish and other vegan based diets tell you no nuts , no olive oil , no fish , no avocado yet others say the good fats are great for you...then other say even the good fats can negatively effect the lineing of the arterys...i sometimes feel like just eating my butt off till I drop dead.
You make an exellent point. With all the money and research that has been done you would think there would be some consensus as to the what the optimum human diet should be. It wasn't to long ago they where telling everyone to get rid of the butter and replace it with margerine, which at that time was loaded with trans fat. Now twenty years later about the only thing that is agreed on is that trans fats are bad.
I don't believe whole grains are bad for you. But I developed some digestive problems after going to a diet that consisted of a lot of grain products. I notice some improvement when I cut the grains back so I decided to completely eliminate them for awhile and see if I had further improvement. I don't buy into the USDA Food Guide Pyramid which recommend 6-11 servings of grain per day. I think 2 maybe 3 serving of quality whole grains would be better. I believe this recommendation is based on economics and politics rather than health. I'm not sure we could feed everyone if we all where eating fresh fruits and vegatables as the mainstay of our diets. So don't spread the word to much, the healthy stuff is already in short supply and pricey. LOL
Mark1e
09-01-2007, 07:33 PM
..... I developed some digestive problems after going to a diet that consisted of a lot of grain products. I notice some improvement when I cut the grains back so I decided to completely eliminate them for awhile and see if I had further improvement. ......
50% of the US population is believed to have some degree of gluten intolerance, and it sounds like you are one of them. I certainly felt better when I stopped eating grains. I have essentially replaced those calories with carories from fat. It has increased the HDL and LDL has remained much the same. Reducing grains usually reduces triglycerides too.
Mark
Red60
09-02-2007, 12:18 PM
Mark, thanks for your input. I've probably made up the lost calories with a 50/50 mix of fat and fruit. So I would say I've probably got a moderate carb intake as opposed to a low carb intake.I guess I need to sit down sometime and add everything up to see for sure. Hopefully I'll get the same results you've experienced.
Red60
09-11-2007, 09:06 PM
Today I got some preliminary results. I particiapted in a MAXIM Health screening that checked cholesterol, BP, BMI and body fat percentage. The results from their test look promising. Had positive changes across the board. The old numbers were while on a low fat diet. This is starting to make a believer out of me. With some niacin, fishoil, a little alcohol, vitamin D3 and more regular exercise I think I can get the LDL down a bit more and raise the HDL to near 50. I had blood drawn and sent in for a VAP test last Friday so I'll know in a week or two how accurate these number really are.
TC 176 down from 198
Ldl 127 down from 142
Hdl 34 up from 27
TG 74 down from 145