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Looly
10-01-2007, 08:08 PM
Can anyone say something positive about their experience with Cozaar. My husband may start with this pill - others have caused side effects not acceptable. Not it's a new drug - Good/Bad?

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famnd
10-01-2007, 10:43 PM
Do you only want positive experiences? Fam

Looly
10-03-2007, 08:47 AM
I'll take any information. Just need to know the consensus.

famnd
10-03-2007, 02:57 PM
I took Cozaar for 13 days. I now have permanent damage to my knees, upper arm muscles, hands & fingers from the extensive drug induced lupus reaction from this drug. My blood count dropped & it took 2 yrs to get back to normal. It took me about 4 months to be able to start walking the length of my driveway whereas I was walking 2 miles a day. It did nothing for my b/p.

One man's meat is another man's poison certainly applies to these b/p meds. A drug can look really good until it gets out into the general population where many new reaction can take place. Apparently we all have different ways of metabolizing meds & there is no perfect way of assessing this before hand. Mayo Clinic does have some tests for some drugs that may be able to predict if a particular drug will work in a particular patient.

Luckily, Cozaar is one of those drugs that can be stopped suddenly without rebound hypertension (when one's b/p goes higher than it was before taking the med). My first symptom was very painful wrists which was dismissed as arthritis. I had not had any previous symptoms of arthritis or wrist problems. The key here is getting a new & unusual symptom for which there is no explanation. Fam

Looly
10-03-2007, 08:38 PM
Thank you for your reply. Sorry though to hear about your problem. All these b/p medications cause more problems that are ridiculous. There doesn't seem to be one that is good. I guess that goes with many medications as my friend was taking Lipitor and had heart palpatations that sent her to the ER. She did not think it was Lipitor that caused it so she had every heart test imaginable, all showing no heart problem. Then she discontinued the Lipitor and like magic, all her heart problems disappeared. Go figure.

tawyna
10-04-2007, 08:46 PM
hi
my boyfriend took cozaar for months he was changed only because it did nothing for his fast heart rate. one good thing if it does not help he can be switched . i was atenolol i hated it but it helps my boyfriend.

flowergirl2day
10-04-2007, 09:53 PM
Hi Fam, :)

My first symptom was very painful wrists which was dismissed as arthritis. I had not had any previous symptoms of arthritis or wrist problems. The key here is getting a new & unusual symptom for which there is no explanation.

Would you mind me asking in what way your joints were damaged? I would like to know the different types of symptoms to watch out for. When on multiple drugs with muscle damage potential, how would a person know which drug to attribute the adverse effects to? For instance, neuromuscular degeneration caused by a cholesterol and CoQ10 deficiency, (caused by Lipitor) the type of damage you sustained, and arthritic damage. All these varied conditions are simply referred to as muscle/joint pain (or problems) on the information sheets. I guess they don't want to scare people off. I cannot believe how many medications cause muscle problems through bringing on mineral or enzyme deficiencies and chemical imbalances at the cellular level. I could not even begin to guess which one of my meds might be responsible for my knee problem, if any. Lipitor would be a good guess, but, of course, there are others that could be responsible. I am hoping it will go away and does not evolve into something painful that would impair my ability to walk.

FG

famnd
10-04-2007, 11:52 PM
Hi FG,

I can't tell you exactly how my knees, hands/fingers, & muscles in my upper arm are damaged. I had the MRI but from my reading (I had an excellent book by a ortho but I can't remember the name at the moment) MRI's are rather limited in giving a definative diagnosis. I've seen a ortho twice (very experienced) & he was very puzzled & tried to help me with at least a diagnosis but failed. I've gotten the most info from that book but it is very tedious reading even after reading it twice!!! I am pretty positive that the medication damage the bones in my knees. Then the pressure of fluid for so many months weakened the ligaments. Plus I couldn't walk other than to the bathroom etc for at least 2 months.

Need a laugh. My youngest son was here with his severe back injury (he fell 20 ft from a tree during a hunting trip). Anyhow we were both getting tired of staying in the house so my husband dropped us off at Walmart & we proceeded to use those motorized carts. It was so funny!!! He thought it was great to ride around & I couldn't get the hang of it all. I kept bumping into things etc. Then of course people got in front of me etc.

I think the first symptom to look for is swelling. Then it felt like the two bones in the thigh were moving around on their own instead of working together. There was pain then & I had to be very careful not to fall. Thank goodness I have hardwood floors cause I held onto a chair to get around.

I kept asking my Dr. what to do other than taking prednisone which I was deathly afraid would mess with my stomach & prevent me from taking my much needed meds. Plus the withdrawal from steriods can be difficult.

Looking back I wish someone had told me it was okay to put elactic bandages on right away & more hot compresses which would have helped. I did elevate my legs but I should have done some passive movements for my knees.
to help move the fluid around. I was so weak because of the anemia that Cozaar caused that it was hard to do much of anything. My husband was pretty burned out what with me & the thyroiditis then all the drug reactions plus my son's health issues & of course his mother dying of lung cancer in another state. 2003 was not a good year for us-even my dog died at the end of the year.

I know now that rest, exercises, hot compresses, elastic bandages help. BTW Mueller bandages are longer & work the best. I found a microwavable compress today so I'm going to try & do it three times a day like DR. D. says. People are so nice when I go shopping-they come up & ask what happened to my knees. I hate to tell them my b/p med did that to me. I refuse to cover up my knees & be hot. I'm thinking about getting some fancy material like silk to cover the bandages. Might as well make a "fashion statement!!!." Fam

flowergirl2day
10-05-2007, 01:34 AM
You are so funny, Fam!

I can just picture you in one of those carts, speeding through the aisles in Walmart, your knees adorned with fancy silk scarves, crashing into store displays and a few customers here and there...wreaking havoc. :D
I am glad your and your son's bad luck has not affected your sense of humor. Laughter is the best stress reliever and so good for us! I had a few good laughs today. I laughed so hard I got teary-eyed. What a great feeling that was!
Thank you for your description of the symptoms. The adverse effects of drugs scare me so much. I don't know what I'd do if I couldn't walk because of my medications. The only way to tell whether or not the symptoms might be caused by the drugs would be to stop taking the drugs and wait several months to see if things improve. In case of irreversable muscle damage no improvement would be seen after a period of time. I know there are tests that look for evidence of rhabdomyolosis. Often the reasons for muscle pain cannot be determined. Unfortunately, muscle pain is a symptom in a broad spectrum of conditions.

flowergirl

 
 
 




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