i personally LOVE my lido.this is THE only thing that helps with the hellish burning and stinging pain i have from central pain syndrome.people don;t give these enough credit.for some types of pain,these are a godsend,but for other types,they will do absolutely nothing.they should at least be tried by people more often they are actually Rxed.hey,if it works ya know?i am glad(as i know you now are)that you at least were willing to try them.they also make a lido ointment that works really well in places that you cannot put the patches?like the base of the skull into the hairline area.not quite as strong as the patch but it does help some.i also like the fact that you can actually cut the patches and only use as much as you need and save the rest or just cut them to fit in a particular area.when i have a particularly bad trigger point pop up in my upper back,the patch really really works well to calm it all down.great stuff that lido.i hope you can find other places they work for you too.i have.Marcia