Hey guys! So, I am still in a ton of back pain. It caused me to go over the edge last Sunday and decide that I dind't want to live anymore, but thankfully i realized that that wasn't a healthy thought, and I called my health coach, who called the police. I went to a crisis center by cop car, and then taken to the hospital by ambulance (for the pain, but all they did in ER was give me a motrin, and then Baker-acted me (put me in the psych ward invluntarily)). I just got out on Saturday. My psyhciatrist told me that I wasn't getting out until after I told her that my pain was all in my head, and that I was using it to manipulate people. She wouldn't listen to a word I said, and Baker-acted me a second time on Tuesday (each one lasts for 72 hours). I did finally become voluntary before I left, so I could get out of the green socks that meant I was a flight risk (yeah, being an hours drive away from my car, and an hour and a hlaf away from where I live, and with no clothes, sure I was going to run away). I got poked tiwce a day to check some kind of stuff, although I never did get any results. I got an MRI the day I left. Also did a 24 hour urine, as a nephrologist did come in to see me. I have a 4 and a 5 mm stone (one in each kidney), and several smaller ones. They aren't going to do anything for them. So, to say the least, I have had quite an interesting last week. I never want to get stuck in the hospital again!! Ahhh!! Not fun at all. Icky. Not for me at all. I don't recommend it, for your sanity's sake. I hated my psychiatrist. I lied my way out of that place. I am doing better now, but still have my really low days. I am now on three different meds for the bipolar. Seraquel, Lexapro, and Lamictal. Hopefully this will work to help keep me from thinking that poorly again.

Well obviously it wasn't all in your head if you have 2 large stones !!Scky to hear about the stones but it's always nicew when the doctor can tell you what is causing the problems !! Hope your feeling better soon !!And it really is a good thing that you called your support person/health coach when you need then , obviously part of you did want to continue living , I know the pain from kidney stones is intolerable at times ( I passed 3-5mm ones in the summer ) but the releif once you've passed one is almost instant..so keep looking forward to that ..there is an end in sight !!

Thank you so much! Yeah, it is so unbearable right now, but hopefully soon it will be over. They don't actually think that the stones are what is causing the pain, as they are still in the kidneys, but I do have some bulging disks in my back, and I don't know what the upper MRI showed, because I couldn't get hte results, but the upper back is hurting pretty bad as well. I really do want to live, so I know that when I start thinking about dying, it isn't right, and I called for help.

Daisy,

I am glad your will to live was strong. Pain causes us much misery. Rather than giving in to it and letting it win, one must remain strong and put up a heck of a fight. There are ways to make the pain a little bit more bearable. Aside from the pain killers (which don't always get the job done) there are some pain management techniques one can learn. Acupuncture and similar techniques might help a little. Hopefully, the doctors will finally be able to diagnose and treat your problem. I would think bulging disks must be extremely painful. Many back problems can be corrected by surgery. This usually puts an abrupt end to the pain back problems cause. Concentrate on getting better, Daisy! I'll be thinking of you. :angel:

Thank you so much! I do want to live, but not like this, so I just keep hoping that they will find the answers soon. I will be taking my MRI report with me tomorrow to PT, and hopefully he will be able to give me some more insight. My back feels like it needs a good stretch, but they told me not to do anything without being at PT. Oh well. At least they care. Unlike the people at teh hospital. One day there will be no more pain for any of us. Imagine that! I can't wait until that day comes!

It's beyond belief that you were coerced into signing a statement saying that your kidney stone pain & other back is 'imaginary'. I do hope that you will make a formal complaint. (The pain of my stones is often so bad it makes me vomit). Why aren't your stones going to be treated? They're not small!

Well done on getting through this & I do hope that your stones & bulging discs can be sorted out soon. Hugs

Hello............im from England, UK and I have recently joined and was scanning through posts when I stumbled across your very sad situation, may I add!

I am sat here in disbelief.....I always thought you guys had the best ever care possible due to been private.....it is utterly disgrafeful how you have been treated..........

As you may be aware we run on a NHS sysytem-National Health service which is free kind of......we all pay National contributions through our wages- if you work if not the goverment pay......however, although our system fails many I have never heard of this kind of treatment to a human being...........

You have stones whether they are in your kidney or in the tube it is all the same for some people..............stones however small or large can damage and scar the tissue some people are just unfortunately hypersensitive to that.........the pain mimicks that of a stone actually passing when moving around ie, renal colic, pain etc...........

Along with a congenital defect I was born with, that has hapenned to me, and my consultant told me this..........he basically said that some people are hypersensitive to a foreign body inside their body and they react with excrutating pain........so they you have it, I can assure you it is NOT in your head my consultant is a good guy and actually one of the best our countries have............

Hold on I there I can totally understand your pain..............I'm sorry you have bipolar , my sister has and that was heart rendering for us all as a family to go through 2 years ago but she doing great now................I really hope and pray you get lots of understanding here..........failing that pop across here and us guys will sort and look after you..........and it's free!!

All the best in your situation, I'm truly flabbergasted..................

Take good care of yourself.........people are rooting for you!!

Shaz- UK
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Thanks you 2! It helps that there are people who understand what I am going through!! I am so upset that I was told that I couldn't be released without saying that it was all in my head. I know that it isn't. They said that the stones are small enough to pass without help, so they are going to let them. Let me just say that I am not at all excited about the prospect of dealing with this much pain for any longer than I have to, and that is what it looks like is going on. I do believe that things will get better sometime soon. At least that is my hope.
Shaz- Thank you so much for your kind words!! Yes, even though things around here are private, you can still get screwed around, because there are some people who are not compassionate. I do not have a clue what that psychiatrist had gone into her field for, but I can tell you it wasn't because she wants to help someone. I am glad that you found a good doctor!! It really helps to have a doctor who is nice and cares!!

Hi, Sorry I hadn't posted much lately. Been really busy and trying to take Diabetic classes. I hope that they can find out what is causing your pain.
It is hard sometimes. My IBS sometimes can hurt about as bad as a stone but pain is pain period. I am thankful I have a dr that believes me. Last night I had a very sharp pain in my upper left side and I thought. Oh no not again. So I will see if in a few months I got through stone symptoms. It felt like it does when one comes loose.
Oh, I had my uro doctor say stones dont hurt in the kidney. I don't think this is true. I think they can be painful even attached.
Hope you can get some help soon.
Sno

Hey, Sno! Thanks for replying. I am glad that you are searching for Diabetes classes. I have only gone to one really. I have seen a few nutritionists though, so that is good.
I am so frustrated about not being able to figure out what is causing the pain. It sucks so bad!!! Oh well. My back has locked up three times in the past 2 days, and hurts like the dickens all the rest of the time. Grrr!
Seeing a psychiatrist today. I had an allergic reaction to the Lamictal (my mood stabilizer) last week, so they said if I didn't see the psychiatrist soon I was going to get baker-acted again. Didn't want that, so I decided I might as well. That and they are letting me see her for $10, even without my insurance helping.

Hi, Thank you. I did learn alot today and I was surprised how much of things I could still eat. Just have to be careful. on the carbs.
I am sorry you have been in so much pain. I hope you can get some help.
Good thing they will let you seem your doctor for 10 that is great.
I think I have another kidney stone. grr. so going to go take a walk and see if I can get it moving.
Hugs, Sno

Thanks! I am glad that you are learning a lot. It is surprising how much you can still eat and keep your blood sugars stable. My doctor actually said that my diabetes might just be reversing. I think next year sometime I will have myself retested and see. I was going to do that at Mayo Clinic, but decided against it, but I have heard a few doctors now that have said that if you have really good control and if it was caught early enough, you can reverse it. Hopefully I am doing good enough with it to have done that. :) The pain is pretty bad, but I am learning to deal. Oh, went to psych, and she put me on Adderall!! What the heck? I have no idea why. And no mood stabilizer either. I don't understand, but whatever.

Daisy,

Do you still take Wellbutrin? Adderall in some cases (especially where dietary glucose and salts are issues) is a mood stabilizer. You may find the adderall helps the pcos and diabetes. But it should not be mixed with Wellbutrin.

Hi daisy,

Just getting back to the boards for a few minutes tonight. It's been kinda hectic lately. Just read your story. I'm sorry that you had to go thru that. Hang in there. I'm thinking of you.

Helen

Thanks you guys. I am not taking Wellbutrin. I am on Lexapro (until I run out, and then switching to Celexa), Seroquel, and Adderall for now for my moods and such. That would be great if my moods were stabilized, and my pcos was helped as well as diabetes. That would be actually amazing!! At least now I am doing better. My leg still shakes. Hehe. Oh well. I just think of it as burning extra calories. Every extra calorie burned is a plus. :) Just looking at the bright side.