mbeth50
10-24-2007, 10:12 PM
Ok I'm trying here again. I've been reading several research reports including one by the Endocrine Society that states "lactoferrin has powerful anabolic, differentiating, and antiapoptotic effects on osteoblasts and inhibits osteoclastogenesis. Lactoferrin is a potential therapeutic target in bone disorders such as osteoporosis and is possibly an important physiological regulator of bone growth" Also read it in Clinical Medicine and Research Journal.
I want to try it but not sure of the dosage. I fell I have to do more than take Strontium..especailly since I have bee exercising and eating healthy for years and that didn't stop osteopenia from happening....
Anyone here try this? :confused:
I want to try it but not sure of the dosage. I fell I have to do more than take Strontium..especailly since I have bee exercising and eating healthy for years and that didn't stop osteopenia from happening....
Anyone here try this? :confused:
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starfish81
10-25-2007, 09:47 AM
Hi Mbeth; I haven't heard of lactoferrin, but if you want to "do something in addition to strontium", have you considered vitamin K2? That's what I'm doing. Apparently it doesn't produce as great a result as strontium, but it can increase BMD by 1% a year. You do have to be careful if you have a tendency towards blood clotting though. I take one every second day with plenty of water. This past couple of weeks my torn knee cartilage has been really painful though (because of working out too hard to help...:( osteoporosis:( ), so since I'm pumping the aspirins I figure I can take the K daily.
You mentioned that you want to take action because of osteopenia (and you did all the right things-me too, and I have a vertebrae of -3.4). Mbeth, I'm not trying to trivialize osteopenia, but did you know that this so-called "disease" was coined by the pharmaceutical industry and didn't even exist back in the 70's? Because of this, hundreds of women (and yeah, some men too) have been terrified into thinking that they must begin taking drugs immediately and for life. This is exactly what Big Pharma wanted :mad: .
I guess what I'm trying to say is: keep doing all the positive things you're doing (exercise, healthy diet, vitamin supplementation) but don't buy into the marketing of fear and feel that you're abnormal if you don't have the T-score of a 20 yr old. My life has been consumed by fear over this for the past 7 years, and I hate to see others go thru it too.
You mentioned that you want to take action because of osteopenia (and you did all the right things-me too, and I have a vertebrae of -3.4). Mbeth, I'm not trying to trivialize osteopenia, but did you know that this so-called "disease" was coined by the pharmaceutical industry and didn't even exist back in the 70's? Because of this, hundreds of women (and yeah, some men too) have been terrified into thinking that they must begin taking drugs immediately and for life. This is exactly what Big Pharma wanted :mad: .
I guess what I'm trying to say is: keep doing all the positive things you're doing (exercise, healthy diet, vitamin supplementation) but don't buy into the marketing of fear and feel that you're abnormal if you don't have the T-score of a 20 yr old. My life has been consumed by fear over this for the past 7 years, and I hate to see others go thru it too.
phylwill1152
10-25-2007, 10:36 AM
Hi mbeth, i agree with what starfish has said about back in the 70's. I worked as a nurses aid on an orthopedic floor and did see eldery women with broken hips, but never heard or saw the word ostoporosis on their charts or mentioned by the drs. Bone loss is an inevitable, natural part of getting older. Its also something that affects some more than others. Don't get me wrong, there are people who have devistating effects from it and there are some who never have any problems. Like everything else, it depends on genetics, lifestyle and basically, luck of the draw. Starfish is also right about the pharmaceutical industry creating a product and then selling it as the best thing since white bread. Fear is a great motivator and the drug companes are counting on all us baby boomers to keep them going.
For me taking strontium, supplements and doing all the things i've been doing for years is as aggressive as i want to get for now. There will always be new supplements, drugs or exercises to try. Some of them may be good and some may not be the safest choice to make. Life its all about choice and doing what you feel is best for you. You're already doing the right things, so keep up the good work and remember you are the same person you've always been. take care...phyllis
For me taking strontium, supplements and doing all the things i've been doing for years is as aggressive as i want to get for now. There will always be new supplements, drugs or exercises to try. Some of them may be good and some may not be the safest choice to make. Life its all about choice and doing what you feel is best for you. You're already doing the right things, so keep up the good work and remember you are the same person you've always been. take care...phyllis
mbeth50
10-25-2007, 05:35 PM
You mentioned that you want to take action because of osteopenia (and you did all the right things-me too, and I have a vertebrae of -3.4). Mbeth, I'm not trying to trivialize osteopenia, but did you know that this so-called "disease" was coined by the pharmaceutical industry and didn't even exist back in the 70's? Because of this, hundreds of women (and yeah, some men too) have been terrified into thinking that they must begin taking drugs immediately and for life. This is exactly what Big Pharma wanted :mad: .
Thanks Starfish!! After much reading I do realize this. That is why after two dosages of Actonel and much nausea I said NO...I will just have to find a few endocronologist Since mine told me tht if I didn't take drugs I would be hunched over and could break a hip!! THE NERVE!!!
Oh will look into the K2...no prescription I hope............
Thanks Starfish!! After much reading I do realize this. That is why after two dosages of Actonel and much nausea I said NO...I will just have to find a few endocronologist Since mine told me tht if I didn't take drugs I would be hunched over and could break a hip!! THE NERVE!!!
Oh will look into the K2...no prescription I hope............
starfish81
10-25-2007, 07:43 PM
Nope, no Rx needed for Vitamin K2, although not all health food stores carry it and sometimes it has to be ordered on-line.
As for your endocrinologist-definitely find a new one-or just go with your primary care physician. Any health-care practitioner who gives that line about being hunched over and breaking bones if you don't begin a lifetime of drugs should be declared incompetent-especially since it's osteopenia we're talking about.
I'm not returning to the rude endo I saw last week, and my gynaecologist is a Fosamax/Forteo pusher so I've seen the last of him too. Thank goodness my family MD, whom I've had for 20 years, is honest enough to admit that not much is known about the relationship between t-scores and fracture risk. His take on it is that a bad t-score looks scary on paper, but in reality there are other unknown factors at play which influence bone strength. I have so much more respect for a doctor who admits that the profession doesn't know everything. Unfortunately, there are a good percentage out there who fancy themselves experts on osteoporosis :mad: .
As for your endocrinologist-definitely find a new one-or just go with your primary care physician. Any health-care practitioner who gives that line about being hunched over and breaking bones if you don't begin a lifetime of drugs should be declared incompetent-especially since it's osteopenia we're talking about.
I'm not returning to the rude endo I saw last week, and my gynaecologist is a Fosamax/Forteo pusher so I've seen the last of him too. Thank goodness my family MD, whom I've had for 20 years, is honest enough to admit that not much is known about the relationship between t-scores and fracture risk. His take on it is that a bad t-score looks scary on paper, but in reality there are other unknown factors at play which influence bone strength. I have so much more respect for a doctor who admits that the profession doesn't know everything. Unfortunately, there are a good percentage out there who fancy themselves experts on osteoporosis :mad: .
mbeth50
10-25-2007, 08:25 PM
Yes I agree,
However forget my family health care provider..Never see the doc.. Ony a Physican Assist, who didn't know anything about staying on Advair too long as harmful (per the drug company itself!) and also wants to increase my Lipitor and Synthroid though I dont need it stronger!...I really need a holistic physican covered by my insurance!!!:mad:
However forget my family health care provider..Never see the doc.. Ony a Physican Assist, who didn't know anything about staying on Advair too long as harmful (per the drug company itself!) and also wants to increase my Lipitor and Synthroid though I dont need it stronger!...I really need a holistic physican covered by my insurance!!!:mad: