karen51
10-27-2007, 02:33 AM
I am not bipolar, but borderline. We have similar symptoms, and my worse one I think is the mood swings. I had all these things planned for today, and then the bad mood hit. Rarely it is good moods. So I did nothing outside of the house...another wasted day. I have tried 4 different mood stabilizer drugs and I just do not think there is going to be one that works for me.
Any suggestions on how to break out of these moods? I never get manic. Just really depressed, never really feel happy. I just joined a church, but it seems like a long time between services and I need more. A friend to talk to would help. Since I was diagnosed, my friends all went scattering away like rats!!! They are rats in my opinion.
I am just so VERY NEEDY for attention.:(
Open to any suggestions..
Thanks,
karen51
Any suggestions on how to break out of these moods? I never get manic. Just really depressed, never really feel happy. I just joined a church, but it seems like a long time between services and I need more. A friend to talk to would help. Since I was diagnosed, my friends all went scattering away like rats!!! They are rats in my opinion.
I am just so VERY NEEDY for attention.:(
Open to any suggestions..
Thanks,
karen51
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tony72
10-27-2007, 10:48 AM
Hi Karen,
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome ((((HUG))))),
Is it possible to find out a little more information? What stabilizers have you tried and are you on any antidepressants or other combo's of medication.
I know sometimes it takes several medications to really bring a balance.
I'm so sorry that your feeling this way right now... I know it can seem so weary and frustrating.
Hoping to hear from you soon....daisey
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome ((((HUG))))),
Is it possible to find out a little more information? What stabilizers have you tried and are you on any antidepressants or other combo's of medication.
I know sometimes it takes several medications to really bring a balance.
I'm so sorry that your feeling this way right now... I know it can seem so weary and frustrating.
Hoping to hear from you soon....daisey
karen51
10-27-2007, 11:59 AM
Hi Daisy,
I have been here, posting mostly on the depression boards. I don't really fit in anywhere specifically. (The story of my life!) I have been on briefly Lamictal-had the rash, Lithium-felt like death, Neurontin-didn't do anything, and the last one Depakote briefly which also made me more depressed and feel horrible all over. So I see the doc on Nov. 5th supposedly, the mental health center may have changed my appointment for some reason.
I did see the nurse after I stopped the Depakote and she agreed that it was not going to work for me, so I am not just stopping the meds myself. Just to make that clear.
You know many factors play into our moods too, and there has been a LOT of stress going on lately. Today I am going to see my grandson that had his tonsils taken out, and he is at my son's house. The son that tends to make nasty remarks which hurt me for days. At first I laugh, then I am depressed. Along with the mood swings anyway. That is the thing with the BPD, I cannot turn loose of hurt, and for me usually, I have a delayed reaction. Thank goodness tomorrow is Sunday and I can go to church and get a lift spiritually.
It is a shame that I cannot see my grandchildren without some kind of drama to go with it. Either it is the mom or my son. It is heartbreaking. I hope one day I am in better control of my moods and can have my own place to be with the kids...I used to have such wonderful times alone with my grandaughter. Such is life.
Thanks for the welcome and I think no one in the depression boards really understands the mood swings like you all probably do.
Thanks too for the help..
Hugs..
karen51;)
I have been here, posting mostly on the depression boards. I don't really fit in anywhere specifically. (The story of my life!) I have been on briefly Lamictal-had the rash, Lithium-felt like death, Neurontin-didn't do anything, and the last one Depakote briefly which also made me more depressed and feel horrible all over. So I see the doc on Nov. 5th supposedly, the mental health center may have changed my appointment for some reason.
I did see the nurse after I stopped the Depakote and she agreed that it was not going to work for me, so I am not just stopping the meds myself. Just to make that clear.
You know many factors play into our moods too, and there has been a LOT of stress going on lately. Today I am going to see my grandson that had his tonsils taken out, and he is at my son's house. The son that tends to make nasty remarks which hurt me for days. At first I laugh, then I am depressed. Along with the mood swings anyway. That is the thing with the BPD, I cannot turn loose of hurt, and for me usually, I have a delayed reaction. Thank goodness tomorrow is Sunday and I can go to church and get a lift spiritually.
It is a shame that I cannot see my grandchildren without some kind of drama to go with it. Either it is the mom or my son. It is heartbreaking. I hope one day I am in better control of my moods and can have my own place to be with the kids...I used to have such wonderful times alone with my grandaughter. Such is life.
Thanks for the welcome and I think no one in the depression boards really understands the mood swings like you all probably do.
Thanks too for the help..
Hugs..
karen51;)
tony72
10-27-2007, 01:10 PM
Have you been on any anti depressants? I'm sorry about your grandson...it is so very hard when relationships are stressed. Yes, tomorrow will be better. Daisey ;)
seaturtle
10-27-2007, 10:14 PM
hi, and welcome here,
Mood swings are so hard to put up with. You never know what you're going to feel like, or what you'll be able to do. I know how it is to plan things and then just not be able to do them.
On the Lamictal: was it administered at a very low dose, then increased very gradually? If's it's too rapid, the rash will come, though some folks are just not able to take it. I have found such wonderful results from it, and couldn't tolerate anything like Depakote.
There are a few other mood stabilizers, and I hope your pdoc will try all of them until you find a combination of meds that helps you feel better.
Glad you posted here, and I am sure you will find a lot of support. I do hope you feel better soon, and am sorry about your family situation. That alone can cause a lot of depression and mood swings.
Best to you,
Seaturtle
Mood swings are so hard to put up with. You never know what you're going to feel like, or what you'll be able to do. I know how it is to plan things and then just not be able to do them.
On the Lamictal: was it administered at a very low dose, then increased very gradually? If's it's too rapid, the rash will come, though some folks are just not able to take it. I have found such wonderful results from it, and couldn't tolerate anything like Depakote.
There are a few other mood stabilizers, and I hope your pdoc will try all of them until you find a combination of meds that helps you feel better.
Glad you posted here, and I am sure you will find a lot of support. I do hope you feel better soon, and am sorry about your family situation. That alone can cause a lot of depression and mood swings.
Best to you,
Seaturtle
Pri Lily
10-27-2007, 10:55 PM
Hi Karen.....
I too am borderline....as well as bi-polar.....there are definitely overlapping symptoms....
You should read up on borderline.
We are incredibly sensitive, and overreact to many things, that we don't need to.
We can put a negative spin on just about anything anybody says, even if it isn't meant that way.
The very fact that we are needy for attention scares people away.TRUST ME.
I have accepted the way I am, and have chosen to "fix" the problem.
A huge help is Cognitive Behaviour Therapy. It identifies "negative" thoughts, and encourages one to replace it with a more "rational" thought. It also outlines distortions in our thinking. Even "normal" people have distorted thoughts.....but ours ruin our lives, and we need to change them.
eg: One time I phoned my sister, our relationship was really on the outs, she didn't want to talk to me, left a message to phone me.....a week went by...I thought ok, she isn't gonna phone back, I got really upset about it....3 days later...still nothing.....then...finally I said to myself, I bet she is on vacation, and that's why she isn't phoning....sure enough, about 2 days later, I got a call.....Hi I just got back from England....what did you want to discuss?
Unfortunately, medication isn't as effective for borderline as it is for bi-polar...I am on a very small amount of lithium, and Effexor, but that is more for the bi-polar than the borderline.
People really do love us, it's us that don't believe it, and want them to prove it....sound familiar......thought so.
You would get more help on the Personality Disorder board...more people that identify with your symptoms...
See you there...
Lil
I too am borderline....as well as bi-polar.....there are definitely overlapping symptoms....
You should read up on borderline.
We are incredibly sensitive, and overreact to many things, that we don't need to.
We can put a negative spin on just about anything anybody says, even if it isn't meant that way.
The very fact that we are needy for attention scares people away.TRUST ME.
I have accepted the way I am, and have chosen to "fix" the problem.
A huge help is Cognitive Behaviour Therapy. It identifies "negative" thoughts, and encourages one to replace it with a more "rational" thought. It also outlines distortions in our thinking. Even "normal" people have distorted thoughts.....but ours ruin our lives, and we need to change them.
eg: One time I phoned my sister, our relationship was really on the outs, she didn't want to talk to me, left a message to phone me.....a week went by...I thought ok, she isn't gonna phone back, I got really upset about it....3 days later...still nothing.....then...finally I said to myself, I bet she is on vacation, and that's why she isn't phoning....sure enough, about 2 days later, I got a call.....Hi I just got back from England....what did you want to discuss?
Unfortunately, medication isn't as effective for borderline as it is for bi-polar...I am on a very small amount of lithium, and Effexor, but that is more for the bi-polar than the borderline.
People really do love us, it's us that don't believe it, and want them to prove it....sound familiar......thought so.
You would get more help on the Personality Disorder board...more people that identify with your symptoms...
See you there...
Lil