MSWONTWIN
11-15-2007, 08:33 AM
1) If this milk thistle is bad for my MS, then why are my symptoms going away?
2) This supplement plays a part in healing the liver. My skin odor is gone, so it must be a liver problem
3) Copaxone does NOT require liver studies
4) I have had liver studies done LONG before copaxone anyway, and they have always been a little off. I was told, however, that they were never in the danger zone.
2) This supplement plays a part in healing the liver. My skin odor is gone, so it must be a liver problem
3) Copaxone does NOT require liver studies
4) I have had liver studies done LONG before copaxone anyway, and they have always been a little off. I was told, however, that they were never in the danger zone.
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MSJayhawk
11-15-2007, 03:08 PM
Odors can be emitted from various organ malfunctions. Doctors are now realizing the extent of this. Cancers can emit odors that dogs can identify long before they show-up on MRIs. Body odors can also be influenced by the foods we eat and genetics.
I can understand your concern. I do not notice smells like my wife does! I suppose it is a blessing to me and a PAIN to her!!;)
I believe that their is likely a smell associated with MS. When I experienced seizures, my Service Dog recognized these in advance. He also knows if my day will be a good day or not.
Congratulations on getting a solution to your liver problem!! And, thanks for sharing!!
I can understand your concern. I do not notice smells like my wife does! I suppose it is a blessing to me and a PAIN to her!!;)
I believe that their is likely a smell associated with MS. When I experienced seizures, my Service Dog recognized these in advance. He also knows if my day will be a good day or not.
Congratulations on getting a solution to your liver problem!! And, thanks for sharing!!
MSNik
11-15-2007, 09:15 PM
Just a quick question; are you aware that during your time on Copaxone, Liver Function tests should have been done at least every 6 months, (more often if your doctor ordered them) and that this would have picked up any Liver problems? And, also are you aware of just how seriously bad Milk Thistle can be for MS patients?
Im glad you are feeling better, however you are doing two things which any Neuro will strongly advise you NOT to do. Treating what you perceive to be a liver problem is very serious stuff and treating it with Milk Thistle is not an FDA approved approach...please go see your Neuro and also check on the effects of Milk Thistle on MS...
I wish you continued feel good days..
Im glad you are feeling better, however you are doing two things which any Neuro will strongly advise you NOT to do. Treating what you perceive to be a liver problem is very serious stuff and treating it with Milk Thistle is not an FDA approved approach...please go see your Neuro and also check on the effects of Milk Thistle on MS...
I wish you continued feel good days..
Bearygood
11-15-2007, 09:18 PM
MSWONTWIN, I'm not sure about causation but so much is unknown about this disease, who knows? One of the concepts I do believe is that for at least some of us (I believe we didn't all get here the same way) MS happens because there's a predisposition and then something happens to trigger it. Toxins in the body can certainly be vicious -- I'm not going to dispute that!
Re: Milk Thistle, it's definitely the supplement that's most widely suggested for liver support. I have a friend with Hep C who's been on it for years. Glad to hear it's helped you and hope you continue to feel better. :)
Re: Milk Thistle, it's definitely the supplement that's most widely suggested for liver support. I have a friend with Hep C who's been on it for years. Glad to hear it's helped you and hope you continue to feel better. :)
MSWONTWIN
11-16-2007, 12:57 AM
I believe I have found the cause of my MS (mine, not anyone elses). I wouldn't be typing this unless I was almost positive. Please read......
I am 28 years old. I have had bad symptoms of MS for the past few years and was diagnosed last february. I've been on Copaxone (no noticable changes with that), I've done the solumedrol (only helped to an extent) I'd go more into that, but you've heard it all before.....
MORE IMPORTANTLY....
For the past 11 years I have had this strange odor emiting from the pores of my skin (my chin, the creases of my nose, behind my ears), especially an hour or two after eating fatty foods. This odor is not limited to this, mind you... it was always there.
It is a putrid smell, kind of like rotting garbage. People really never noticed it unless they were close enough to me, but I was always aware of it all the time for years and years.
I have always had cystic acne as well. That stinks too, in two ways of course.
Searching NON-STOP on the internet I have never found anyone with the same oily face odor problem. Only found loads of informations on pets with this problem.
A couple weeks ago I finally found a new post on a messege board of someone with the same strange odor about their face.
A doctor gave a reply to this person that set light bulbs off in my head. He mentioned that it probably has to do with his liver.
It got me thinking even further. The liver filters toxins in the body. It made perfect sense to me. Obviously smelling like this, my body was not filtering toxins properly.
Thinking even more, I realized I have a plethera of herbal supplements on my shelf, one being Milk Thistle (1000 milligrams). This has been clinically tested for liver treatment.
This is the most amazing part .......
NOTE: I'm not suggesting to anyone to try this unless they have the same odor problem..... ALSO IF YOU'RE ALLERGIC TO RAGWEED TALK TO THE DOC. I have no clue how anyone else will deal with Milk Thistle or whether or not it will help you. TAKE THIS WITH A GRAIN OF SALT
I've been taking about three times the recommended dosage of 1000 milligram Milk Thistle every day for the past couple weeks.
The odor is GONE. I have not breathed through my nose and not smelled it for 11 years.
EVEN MORE AMAZING.... My energy level is off the wall (I feel like a kid again) I can run in place again. My L'Hermittes sign is GONE, no more "zaps". My fingers can move as good as back in 2001. My sex drive is back. Some of my numbness and tingling is subsiding. This is only after two weeks of taking this.
Unfortunately I'm still having trouble emptying my bladder. I tend to think this is a perminant problem, but I've learned to accept it. My abdominal hugging spasm obviously still requires baclofen and cyclobenzaprine. I'm definately going to keep up with my Copaxone treatment too.
I have a strong feeling that since my liver was not filtering toxins correclty, my T cells were trying to fix the problem, in turn, eating my myelin on the spine and brain.
I could be wrong, but if you could just smell the odor I formerly dealt with, you'd at least agree that my liver was not filtering properly.
I am so excited about this and I wanted to share it with you. I'm not here to spread false hope. That is not my intention.
For all I know my next MRI will look like hell. I'm not due for my second one for about a year. All I know is symptoms are subsiding much better than they ever have with anything. Solumedrol has nothing on the relief I'm feeling now.
Please pass your thoughts, I need to talk to people about this.
I am 28 years old. I have had bad symptoms of MS for the past few years and was diagnosed last february. I've been on Copaxone (no noticable changes with that), I've done the solumedrol (only helped to an extent) I'd go more into that, but you've heard it all before.....
MORE IMPORTANTLY....
For the past 11 years I have had this strange odor emiting from the pores of my skin (my chin, the creases of my nose, behind my ears), especially an hour or two after eating fatty foods. This odor is not limited to this, mind you... it was always there.
It is a putrid smell, kind of like rotting garbage. People really never noticed it unless they were close enough to me, but I was always aware of it all the time for years and years.
I have always had cystic acne as well. That stinks too, in two ways of course.
Searching NON-STOP on the internet I have never found anyone with the same oily face odor problem. Only found loads of informations on pets with this problem.
A couple weeks ago I finally found a new post on a messege board of someone with the same strange odor about their face.
A doctor gave a reply to this person that set light bulbs off in my head. He mentioned that it probably has to do with his liver.
It got me thinking even further. The liver filters toxins in the body. It made perfect sense to me. Obviously smelling like this, my body was not filtering toxins properly.
Thinking even more, I realized I have a plethera of herbal supplements on my shelf, one being Milk Thistle (1000 milligrams). This has been clinically tested for liver treatment.
This is the most amazing part .......
NOTE: I'm not suggesting to anyone to try this unless they have the same odor problem..... ALSO IF YOU'RE ALLERGIC TO RAGWEED TALK TO THE DOC. I have no clue how anyone else will deal with Milk Thistle or whether or not it will help you. TAKE THIS WITH A GRAIN OF SALT
I've been taking about three times the recommended dosage of 1000 milligram Milk Thistle every day for the past couple weeks.
The odor is GONE. I have not breathed through my nose and not smelled it for 11 years.
EVEN MORE AMAZING.... My energy level is off the wall (I feel like a kid again) I can run in place again. My L'Hermittes sign is GONE, no more "zaps". My fingers can move as good as back in 2001. My sex drive is back. Some of my numbness and tingling is subsiding. This is only after two weeks of taking this.
Unfortunately I'm still having trouble emptying my bladder. I tend to think this is a perminant problem, but I've learned to accept it. My abdominal hugging spasm obviously still requires baclofen and cyclobenzaprine. I'm definately going to keep up with my Copaxone treatment too.
I have a strong feeling that since my liver was not filtering toxins correclty, my T cells were trying to fix the problem, in turn, eating my myelin on the spine and brain.
I could be wrong, but if you could just smell the odor I formerly dealt with, you'd at least agree that my liver was not filtering properly.
I am so excited about this and I wanted to share it with you. I'm not here to spread false hope. That is not my intention.
For all I know my next MRI will look like hell. I'm not due for my second one for about a year. All I know is symptoms are subsiding much better than they ever have with anything. Solumedrol has nothing on the relief I'm feeling now.
Please pass your thoughts, I need to talk to people about this.
MSNik
11-16-2007, 08:28 AM
Your symtoms may be going away because you are treating something totally UNrelated to MS and its working by taking the Milk Thistle...you could have an underlying secondary disease..
You stated that LONG AGO you had blood work and were told that it has always been alittle off but you were in the normal range, why wouldnt that have been repeated as time went on, and arent you interested in having it done now to check for liver function tests? You might be able to verify why you feel so much better with a simple herb, by simply finding out what it is the herb is working on.
Yes, Milk Thistle has been known to help both Hepatitis, Ciroccis and other liver problems, but these are NOT related to MS as a general symptom. IN fact, I doubt very much that any Neuro will tell you that this is doing anything at all for your MS related symtoms, whle a Hemotologist might agree that it is helping your liver.
Interesting story. Good luck with this.
You stated that LONG AGO you had blood work and were told that it has always been alittle off but you were in the normal range, why wouldnt that have been repeated as time went on, and arent you interested in having it done now to check for liver function tests? You might be able to verify why you feel so much better with a simple herb, by simply finding out what it is the herb is working on.
Yes, Milk Thistle has been known to help both Hepatitis, Ciroccis and other liver problems, but these are NOT related to MS as a general symptom. IN fact, I doubt very much that any Neuro will tell you that this is doing anything at all for your MS related symtoms, whle a Hemotologist might agree that it is helping your liver.
Interesting story. Good luck with this.
tuckersmom
11-16-2007, 09:17 AM
Hello. This is all very interesting! Can you tell me, what did your previous MRI show? I would assume they did a spinal tap to check for things like the bands and lyme etc... to rule other things out.
Have you had liver problems before? You indicated you had been through other liver tests...just wondering what they were looking for or ruling out.
Thank you for sharing your story...it is always good to throw things out there for others to ponder!
Lisa:)
Have you had liver problems before? You indicated you had been through other liver tests...just wondering what they were looking for or ruling out.
Thank you for sharing your story...it is always good to throw things out there for others to ponder!
Lisa:)
MSWONTWIN
11-16-2007, 09:51 AM
Hi Lisa,
There was never any spinal tap, but they checked for lymes and the other suspect diseases through blood work. I wonder if a spinal tap is necessary? God that is scary, I saw my ex girlfriend get one and she was in some serious pain. Not to mention hearing popping noises! It makes me cringe thinking about it.
I've had liver studies a few months ago while I was on Rebif, I've also had liver studies done before I was diagnosed a long time ago. I've been told on a few occasions in the past that my liver levels were off, but not dangerously off. I never really asked what exactly was off at the time, because all I cared about was that I was not in danger.
Anyway, I stopped with Rebif a while ago and am on Copaxone now. I'm never going back to Rebif again.
All I know is the past couple weeks I've been doing better than I've been in the past few years.
Although I was diagnosed only last Feb, my symptoms started after the turn of the millenium. Only in the past couple years have they gotten out of hand, thus the diagnosis. I should have gotten an MRI at least 2 years ago, but my doctors never followed through, with all the symptoms I told them about.
It took optic neuritis for them to even consider an MRI.
I didn't even know what an MRI was until last Feb.
There was never any spinal tap, but they checked for lymes and the other suspect diseases through blood work. I wonder if a spinal tap is necessary? God that is scary, I saw my ex girlfriend get one and she was in some serious pain. Not to mention hearing popping noises! It makes me cringe thinking about it.
I've had liver studies a few months ago while I was on Rebif, I've also had liver studies done before I was diagnosed a long time ago. I've been told on a few occasions in the past that my liver levels were off, but not dangerously off. I never really asked what exactly was off at the time, because all I cared about was that I was not in danger.
Anyway, I stopped with Rebif a while ago and am on Copaxone now. I'm never going back to Rebif again.
All I know is the past couple weeks I've been doing better than I've been in the past few years.
Although I was diagnosed only last Feb, my symptoms started after the turn of the millenium. Only in the past couple years have they gotten out of hand, thus the diagnosis. I should have gotten an MRI at least 2 years ago, but my doctors never followed through, with all the symptoms I told them about.
It took optic neuritis for them to even consider an MRI.
I didn't even know what an MRI was until last Feb.
MSWONTWIN
11-16-2007, 09:52 AM
Oh, I forgot to mention what the MRI showed....
Five lesions on the brain and plenty of plaques on my spine. My whole neck part is white, the rest of my spine is not quite as bad.
Five lesions on the brain and plenty of plaques on my spine. My whole neck part is white, the rest of my spine is not quite as bad.
tuckersmom
11-16-2007, 10:06 AM
I am glad you are feeling so much better. Spinal taps in idea are very scary. Mine went flawlessly. It is the most inclusive way to test for Lyme and look for the "og bands" indicitive of MS although some test neg. for the bands but with symptoms and often lesions showing on MRI...the diagnosis is made. Did your MRI in Feb. show lesions?
I used Rebif for a short time but decided that the injectable meds were not for me. I know many people love it but many also love copaxone. It's truly a personal choice. Some are like me and don't use those at all.
I would just like to encourage you to keep searching as to why the liver issues. If the milk thistle is cleaning out your liver and that is why you feel better...that is a blessing but be sure you are not overdoing it. Any supplement in high doses can become "toxic" over time. Typically neurologists want MS or suspected MS patients to have MRI's every 6 months. Not all but most.
Please keep us posted. People on this board are amazing and true "lifesavers" for many of us. We all are very invested in helping each other to live the best and most healthy life possible. We debate issues but in the end ...it is a personal decision on how you treat or don't treat your MS. We have great respect for each others decisions. MS is a very individual disease....what works for some, doesn't for others and etc....
Lisa:angel:
I used Rebif for a short time but decided that the injectable meds were not for me. I know many people love it but many also love copaxone. It's truly a personal choice. Some are like me and don't use those at all.
I would just like to encourage you to keep searching as to why the liver issues. If the milk thistle is cleaning out your liver and that is why you feel better...that is a blessing but be sure you are not overdoing it. Any supplement in high doses can become "toxic" over time. Typically neurologists want MS or suspected MS patients to have MRI's every 6 months. Not all but most.
Please keep us posted. People on this board are amazing and true "lifesavers" for many of us. We all are very invested in helping each other to live the best and most healthy life possible. We debate issues but in the end ...it is a personal decision on how you treat or don't treat your MS. We have great respect for each others decisions. MS is a very individual disease....what works for some, doesn't for others and etc....
Lisa:angel:
MSWONTWIN
11-16-2007, 10:08 AM
MSNik,
If L'Hermites Sign, numbness and tingling, buckling legs, etc. are a different underlying disease, then I must have two neurological diseases ;)
These symptoms have completely gone since I've been treating my liver.
Your symtoms may be going away because you are treating something totally UNrelated to MS and its working by taking the Milk Thistle...you could have an underlying secondary disease..
You stated that LONG AGO you had blood work and were told that it has always been alittle off but you were in the normal range, why wouldnt that have been repeated as time went on, and arent you interested in having it done now to check for liver function tests? You might be able to verify why you feel so much better with a simple herb, by simply finding out what it is the herb is working on.
Yes, Milk Thistle has been known to help both Hepatitis, Ciroccis and other liver problems, but these are NOT related to MS as a general symptom. IN fact, I doubt very much that any Neuro will tell you that this is doing anything at all for your MS related symtoms, whle a Hemotologist might agree that it is helping your liver.
Interesting story. Good luck with this.
If L'Hermites Sign, numbness and tingling, buckling legs, etc. are a different underlying disease, then I must have two neurological diseases ;)
These symptoms have completely gone since I've been treating my liver.
Your symtoms may be going away because you are treating something totally UNrelated to MS and its working by taking the Milk Thistle...you could have an underlying secondary disease..
You stated that LONG AGO you had blood work and were told that it has always been alittle off but you were in the normal range, why wouldnt that have been repeated as time went on, and arent you interested in having it done now to check for liver function tests? You might be able to verify why you feel so much better with a simple herb, by simply finding out what it is the herb is working on.
Yes, Milk Thistle has been known to help both Hepatitis, Ciroccis and other liver problems, but these are NOT related to MS as a general symptom. IN fact, I doubt very much that any Neuro will tell you that this is doing anything at all for your MS related symtoms, whle a Hemotologist might agree that it is helping your liver.
Interesting story. Good luck with this.
MSWONTWIN
11-16-2007, 10:11 AM
***And again, I must stress that I'm not suggesting anyone treating their liver for MS!
I'm going to continue to treat my liver regardless of my MS, simply because a TERRIBLE skin odor I have dealt with for a long long time is gone. Thank God for Milk Thistle extract.
I'm going to continue to treat my liver regardless of my MS, simply because a TERRIBLE skin odor I have dealt with for a long long time is gone. Thank God for Milk Thistle extract.
MSNik
11-16-2007, 11:44 AM
Hey MSWONTWIN,
Im not saying you shouldnt treat your liver at all. In fact, its really great to hear that you found something natural and over the counter which is helping you. I just simply wanted you to know that the symtoms you also mentioned, arent necessarily MS sytoms and Milk Thistle MIGHT aggravate known MS sytmoms. Its also possible that you are having "luck" and at the same time that your symptoms started to subside, you were taking the Milk Thistle which might actually be helping your skin odor.
Relapses come in strange ways and dissappear just as fast. Often, for no reason and with no treatment. If you are convinced that this is helping you, then by all means, keep doing what you are doing. But, please be careful. You stated that you were taking 3 times the recommended dose. Since herbs are not FDA approved, you might really want to talk to your Neuro about this, and about the effects it will have on Copaxone and MS in general. Im only worried about what the herbs might do since you are doing this on your own...I have no doubt it is helping your liver issues.
Good luck, really. I appluad you seeking alternative meds to help you. Its important that we explore everything and every option.
Best of the best.
MSNik
Im not saying you shouldnt treat your liver at all. In fact, its really great to hear that you found something natural and over the counter which is helping you. I just simply wanted you to know that the symtoms you also mentioned, arent necessarily MS sytoms and Milk Thistle MIGHT aggravate known MS sytmoms. Its also possible that you are having "luck" and at the same time that your symptoms started to subside, you were taking the Milk Thistle which might actually be helping your skin odor.
Relapses come in strange ways and dissappear just as fast. Often, for no reason and with no treatment. If you are convinced that this is helping you, then by all means, keep doing what you are doing. But, please be careful. You stated that you were taking 3 times the recommended dose. Since herbs are not FDA approved, you might really want to talk to your Neuro about this, and about the effects it will have on Copaxone and MS in general. Im only worried about what the herbs might do since you are doing this on your own...I have no doubt it is helping your liver issues.
Good luck, really. I appluad you seeking alternative meds to help you. Its important that we explore everything and every option.
Best of the best.
MSNik
taosdaphne
11-16-2007, 08:00 PM
I'm a recovering alcoholic (18 yrs, yay!) and my liver is not in the best shape. I started using milk thistle during recovery, and my liver values came back to normal w.in a year, despite some cirrhosis. I was put on Rebif in July, and by October my liver enzymes were dangerously high and I'm back on milk thistle (which an MS nurse recommended). Since I've been off the rebif, which is more toxic than the other interferons to the liver, I've been feeling *great*. Walking around the house w.o aids, exercising again, etc. I think it's a combo of quitting rebif and my liver clearing up. Still exhausted much of the time, but doing OK.
Bearygood
11-16-2007, 09:19 PM
Good for you, Daphne! And congrats on 18 years! :bouncing:
MSWONTWIN
11-16-2007, 11:40 PM
taosdaphine!
Cheers! I went through the same thing with Rebif!
I started taking the interferons as recomended by my first neuro
Interferon is a good name for it, cause it interfered with with any kind of MS recovery.... I had all of a sudden had a much worse urinary retention problem.. Also, all of a sudden I can't walk down the steps without my legs buckling!! It seemd like this "treatment" had made everything WORSE!
The past couple weeks I have been consuming more than the recommended dose of Milk Thistle (about 7 dollars a bottle) and EVERYTHING is coming back....
And before consumption of this herb, there was an odor about my skin, that I can only explain as being rancid, cheesy, oily, dirty socks, etc. I KNOW IT'S DISGUSTING!! I'm not afraid to admit it here, especially since it's GONE
I used to drink alcohol and take drugs when I was younger. A LOT of alcohol. Quite a few drugs.... But even more than that, I have a tendency to get stressed out.... The smell got worse when I stressed out bad.
It's gone thanks to milk thistle....
Not only that.... I used to be the cream of the *** crop with timed typing writings.... I lost that in the past few years... I timed myself tonight!!!!.... 90 WPM with less than 5 errors, on a straight text story.
I may be making mistakes in this messege, but I know what's going on.... I'm HEALING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SOLUMEDROL, EAT YOUR HEART OUT!!!
I'm a recovering alcoholic (18 yrs, yay!) and my liver is not in the best shape. I started using milk thistle during recovery, and my liver values came back to normal w.in a year, despite some cirrhosis. I was put on Rebif in July, and by October my liver enzymes were dangerously high and I'm back on milk thistle (which an MS nurse recommended). Since I've been off the rebif, which is more toxic than the other interferons to the liver, I've been feeling *great*. Walking around the house w.o aids, exercising again, etc. I think it's a combo of quitting rebif and my liver clearing up. Still exhausted much of the time, but doing OK.
Cheers! I went through the same thing with Rebif!
I started taking the interferons as recomended by my first neuro
Interferon is a good name for it, cause it interfered with with any kind of MS recovery.... I had all of a sudden had a much worse urinary retention problem.. Also, all of a sudden I can't walk down the steps without my legs buckling!! It seemd like this "treatment" had made everything WORSE!
The past couple weeks I have been consuming more than the recommended dose of Milk Thistle (about 7 dollars a bottle) and EVERYTHING is coming back....
And before consumption of this herb, there was an odor about my skin, that I can only explain as being rancid, cheesy, oily, dirty socks, etc. I KNOW IT'S DISGUSTING!! I'm not afraid to admit it here, especially since it's GONE
I used to drink alcohol and take drugs when I was younger. A LOT of alcohol. Quite a few drugs.... But even more than that, I have a tendency to get stressed out.... The smell got worse when I stressed out bad.
It's gone thanks to milk thistle....
Not only that.... I used to be the cream of the *** crop with timed typing writings.... I lost that in the past few years... I timed myself tonight!!!!.... 90 WPM with less than 5 errors, on a straight text story.
I may be making mistakes in this messege, but I know what's going on.... I'm HEALING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SOLUMEDROL, EAT YOUR HEART OUT!!!
I'm a recovering alcoholic (18 yrs, yay!) and my liver is not in the best shape. I started using milk thistle during recovery, and my liver values came back to normal w.in a year, despite some cirrhosis. I was put on Rebif in July, and by October my liver enzymes were dangerously high and I'm back on milk thistle (which an MS nurse recommended). Since I've been off the rebif, which is more toxic than the other interferons to the liver, I've been feeling *great*. Walking around the house w.o aids, exercising again, etc. I think it's a combo of quitting rebif and my liver clearing up. Still exhausted much of the time, but doing OK.
MSWONTWIN
11-16-2007, 11:43 PM
If there ever was a treatment that I can deal with it's copaxone.... Honestly, after taking this for months and months, I will still take it.
BUt after taking tons of this 7 dollar per bottle herb, and my liver healing, and my stench subsiding, the past two weeks have been a storm of goodness and it's only getting better.
I feel like i'm showing off running down steps!
Doesn't look like anything to a civillian, but to me it means the world!!
BUt after taking tons of this 7 dollar per bottle herb, and my liver healing, and my stench subsiding, the past two weeks have been a storm of goodness and it's only getting better.
I feel like i'm showing off running down steps!
Doesn't look like anything to a civillian, but to me it means the world!!
MSWONTWIN
11-17-2007, 12:03 AM
I said everything is coming back, but that's not true. I still can't urinate and my MS hug is still bad unless I pop the pills given to me....
Everything else is coming back... That is more important to me.
Not only that... I'm getting erections again yipeee!!!! Not like it (technically) matters, I can't find a girlfriend that will deal with my MS anyway.
Everything else is coming back... That is more important to me.
Not only that... I'm getting erections again yipeee!!!! Not like it (technically) matters, I can't find a girlfriend that will deal with my MS anyway.