cshore
07-01-2003, 01:15 PM
I really don't even know where to start so I hope you can bear with me. 4 Yrs ago I was bitten by a spider, a Brown Recluse is what my Dr id'd him as. Anyway I was given antibiotics and then about a mos later my throat started bothering me, and I was prescribed more antibiotics... they didn't work, and a different brand was given to me. I then developed thrush, and went on Diflucan and Mycelex. After all this my life has never been the same. I developed Geographic tongue, which over the yrs because I take B-6 everyday doesn't bother me as much. BUT the one thing that I still suffer from is this white sticky substance in my throat. It drives me crazy. Over the years I have used Nystatin, went to a Hollistic Dr where I drank shakes... an ENT. my GP, and still I am suffering with this. I know or at least I think it is Candidia an overgrowth of yeast. It isn't mucous but a thick white substance, that on some days I have to keep swallowing and still it feels like it is clogging up my throat. I don't spit out regular spit is is always this gross stuff and sometimes I have to spit alot. About 6 weeks ago I started taking something called Threelac a Candida defense. It says that it can take 3 mos to eat up the yeast. Some days it seems to feel better and my saliva is somewhat normal...but mostly my saliva is slimy and not the way it should be. I Have never suffered from allergies and have always been very healthy.
I don't even like to kiss anymore because of this. I am at my wits end, and don't know what to try anymore. I have also tried silver,nose sprays that are supposed to thin out mucus... and Robotussin that is also supposed to thin out mucous. BUT I really don't think this is mucous, but yeast and I don't know what else to try.
Please... is there someone out there that give me some ideas about what else to try!!
Thanks !!
Carol
PS I did go on a candidia diet for awhile when this first began 4 yrs ago.. but I don't eat veggies and that diet isn't one that I could follow so I Need some other kind of help.
I don't even like to kiss anymore because of this. I am at my wits end, and don't know what to try anymore. I have also tried silver,nose sprays that are supposed to thin out mucus... and Robotussin that is also supposed to thin out mucous. BUT I really don't think this is mucous, but yeast and I don't know what else to try.
Please... is there someone out there that give me some ideas about what else to try!!
Thanks !!
Carol
PS I did go on a candidia diet for awhile when this first began 4 yrs ago.. but I don't eat veggies and that diet isn't one that I could follow so I Need some other kind of help.
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mlgable
07-02-2003, 12:35 AM
Did the docs do a culture of this mucous? If not get a specimen cup from the docs office and give them a good specimen and get the mucous cultured. That will tell you just what is in the mucous and if nothing is found the report will say something like normal mouth flora or something along those lines. If it is yeast it will grow candidia bacteria in the lab or if it is something else then the culture will show just what bacteria you do have so they can prescribe the proper medicatin if needed.
cshore
07-02-2003, 11:21 AM
Thanks so much for letting me know that they can even do that... I am surprised that no DR ever even suggested that. Sometimes that stuff whatever it is, even has a speck of blue in it, ... and I had thought about bringing that in when that blue shows up.
Carol
Carol
Sarah68
07-02-2003, 07:26 PM
First of all, it sounds as if all the antibiotics have cleared out the good gut flora and you really need to replace this by taking some Acidophilis capsules twice daily.
Next, I am going to suggest that you might benefit from going back to your Naturopathic doctor and asking for some homeopathic treatment. The thing is that I think you are going to have to go back to the causation to solve this problem.
I think the causation is initially from the spider, but then most definitely a concept called 'Never well since' antibiotics. In homeopathy, it is possible to potentise any kind of substance and a homeopath may potentise the spider venom and this may help you, or as the antibiotics may have caused this problem, the antibiotics can be potentised and given back to you in potency and this may then help too. This should also be done in conjunction with your homeopathic consitutional remedy. This can be given afterwards or concurrently.
This is not as crazy as it seems and I did this for a friend of mine recently and it worked very well. He had bronchitis that was verging on pneumonia, so went his doc who of course, gave him antibiotics. At that point, I worked out the correct homeopathic remedy and told him to take it three times daily until the tablets were finished and he did seem to be improving. However, he had taken an antibiotic called Ceporex and said that he felt very unwell after taking this and did not seem to be getting any better, so I gave it back to him in potency and within one day of taking it he had vomited and coughed up a load of phlegm. He then started the road to full recovery after this and was well within a week and has had no further problems.
You have nothing to lose by trying this and I think that this approach could very well work.
One thing is for sure, that you don't need any more antibiotics, so I would suggest finding another good ND or a classical homeopath who can help you.
To cure this you need to go back to the original cause of the problem and get rid of that rather than just treating the symptoms that you are left with. That way you will never get rid of your problem.
Next, I am going to suggest that you might benefit from going back to your Naturopathic doctor and asking for some homeopathic treatment. The thing is that I think you are going to have to go back to the causation to solve this problem.
I think the causation is initially from the spider, but then most definitely a concept called 'Never well since' antibiotics. In homeopathy, it is possible to potentise any kind of substance and a homeopath may potentise the spider venom and this may help you, or as the antibiotics may have caused this problem, the antibiotics can be potentised and given back to you in potency and this may then help too. This should also be done in conjunction with your homeopathic consitutional remedy. This can be given afterwards or concurrently.
This is not as crazy as it seems and I did this for a friend of mine recently and it worked very well. He had bronchitis that was verging on pneumonia, so went his doc who of course, gave him antibiotics. At that point, I worked out the correct homeopathic remedy and told him to take it three times daily until the tablets were finished and he did seem to be improving. However, he had taken an antibiotic called Ceporex and said that he felt very unwell after taking this and did not seem to be getting any better, so I gave it back to him in potency and within one day of taking it he had vomited and coughed up a load of phlegm. He then started the road to full recovery after this and was well within a week and has had no further problems.
You have nothing to lose by trying this and I think that this approach could very well work.
One thing is for sure, that you don't need any more antibiotics, so I would suggest finding another good ND or a classical homeopath who can help you.
To cure this you need to go back to the original cause of the problem and get rid of that rather than just treating the symptoms that you are left with. That way you will never get rid of your problem.
cshore
07-08-2003, 01:41 AM
Thanks so much for your advice... I am seeing my internal medicine Dr tomorrow, and I will read her what you said. As for antibiotics... if I can avoid it I will never take them again.. it has been 4 yrs since I last took them... and I was told if I ever had to take them again that I should take Diflucan at the same time. BUT I still need to get rid of the problem that I was left with, and I hope my DR can give me name of someone can help me.
Carol
Carol
Sarah68
07-08-2003, 07:23 PM
Unfortunately and MD cannot help you in the way you suggest and you will need to go and see a Naturopathic Doctor. The only other way is to go and find an MD that is trained in homeopathy.
Antiobiotics just suppress rather than curing the problem.
Good luck
Antiobiotics just suppress rather than curing the problem.
Good luck
kbunch
08-11-2003, 11:26 PM
Wow a brown recluse spider? do you realize how lucky you are to be alive? a guy in my town got bit by one in his basement and i don't know the details but i saw pictures of his leg and he ended up having from the knee down removed because it was full of poison.
Tangle
08-19-2003, 05:15 PM
Wonder if the poster will return and give us a fallow-up on the throat thing?
Anyway, another natural remidy for oral thrush and yeast-like conditions is H2O2, common hydrogen peroxide. Add several drops or several cc's to about 2oz purified water and drink slowly. Use stronger solution for gargeling.
Zinc lozenges also seem to show great potential in curing this throat thing.
good luck
Anyway, another natural remidy for oral thrush and yeast-like conditions is H2O2, common hydrogen peroxide. Add several drops or several cc's to about 2oz purified water and drink slowly. Use stronger solution for gargeling.
Zinc lozenges also seem to show great potential in curing this throat thing.
good luck
cshore
08-23-2003, 01:51 AM
Yes here I am, so I will now reply to my throat thing!!! I read the allergy boards alot now, so I have not been to this topic in awhile. I did have the mouth culture done and nothing showed up... so I guess I don't have the overgrowth of yeast like I thought... I went to an allergist last week and had the skin test done on my arms and on my back... and I do have some mild allergies to some foods. So I am trying to cut those foods out for 6 weeks like the Dr suggested.... it is hard and I do cheat some, but I was also given a prescription for Allegra and it is definetly helping.. I still have that sticky white substance in my throat but it isn't as much as I did have and it isn't as bothersome as it was. My saliva seems better more normal...and my mouth doesn't seem slimy like it was... I also found out that I have a mild case of asthma which I am taking Advair for... and I have nasal spray Nasacort that I can take as needed and that also seems to help. I also found out I am mildly allergic to grass and a few other things other then food.. but I guess my symptons are in my throat and not like what most people suffer from when they have allergies. I would have never suspected that I had allergies since I never did when I was younger... I am 46... but both my sisters have them as well as my mom, and now I guess I do too.
So I guess all this time, it wasn't yeast but allergies.
Carol
So I guess all this time, it wasn't yeast but allergies.
Carol