i was put on vytorin 10/40 for a month now i have no side effects thank the lord go to the doc in end of jan 2008 for test results just wanna hear any lipid testemonies

Mike,

I can't speak to Vytorin 10/40 but can as to Vytorin 10/20 in April 07.

Total=117, LDL=55, Tris=66, hdl=49.

I know everyone. Numbers to die for:D but the side effects were not so good; muscle aches, sore, dizzy, low testosterone (I think), etc. I think there is something to be said for the argument that we need some cholesterol and too little can be dangerous just as too much (can be).

Regardless, I would advise you against adding onto the Vytorin 10/40. You are taking two drugs for cholesterol lowering and piling on would seem risky.

good luck.

Mike,

I can't speak to Vytorin 10/40 but can as to Vytorin 10/20 in April 07.

Total=117, LDL=55, Tris=66, hdl=49.

I know everyone. Numbers to die for:D but the side effects were not so good; muscle aches, sore, dizzy, low testosterone (I think), etc. I think there is something to be said for the argument that we need some cholesterol and too little can be dangerous just as too much (can be).

Regardless, I would advise you against adding onto the Vytorin 10/40. You are taking two drugs for cholesterol lowering and piling on would seem risky.

good luck.



thanks for the info my cholesterols numbers were on nov 7 2007 tc=166 hdl=25 trig=70 ldl=127 sugars = 95 ac1 test=5.4 so then doc decided to put me on vytorin 10/40 to raise hdl and decrease ldl so thats why iam on it but its kinda weird because iam only 29 years of age male 6foot 4 245lbs

Hi Mike,

Did you get a second opinion? It might be worth it to see what another physician tells you?

I agree with Pat007. Your HDL (in November) is pretty low but the other numbers are good. It looks like they would come down even more with diet and exercise modifications. Plus, your HDL would seem to increase too. At age 29, you should be able to modify what you need to so that you could avoid the medications. Put it off as long as you can!

Mike, it looks as if your most obvious risk is the low HDL. You very well may have some other potential lipid pattern risks but it would required a more advanced lipo protein test to determine. I would request such test from your doctor if your insurance will cover it or if you can afford them. As far as the HDL goes I wouldn't expect much change due to the vytorin10/40. I believe you will see a good drop in the LDL but little if any improvement in HDL.

I have managed to increase my HDL from 27 to 42 with diet and lifesyle changes. I went to a grainless diet that included plenty of the so called "healthy fats" and a moderate level of saturated animal fats. Mostly comming from fish, chicken and eggs with a little red meat thrown in every now and then. Plenty of green veggies and a few servings of fruit each day. Try to avoid all trans fats including any hydrogenated fats. Hopefully you don't have the advantage of the other lifesyle change I've made which appears to have accounted for about 1/2 of my improved HDL numbers. That gain was achieved by quiting smoking.

I've seen in you other post that you are exercising. I have read one study that found the benifit of exercise on HDL was improved when the majority of the persons fat intake was consumed in the meal following the exercise session. I haven't tried this one yet but it might be worth a shot.

My latest addition to the regiment is vitamin d. I've read a lot of info that links many many problems including low HDL to low vitamin d levels. So begining this Oct I've been supplementing. I'm not sure when I'll be getting another test but I'll let everyone know if it helps. I started with 2000iu per day in OCT. Increased to 3000 iu per day in NOV and upped it to 4000iu in DEC. I think I'll hold at 4000iu until March and then tapper it off by the end of MAY once there's plenty of sun shine.

Mike, it looks as if your most obvious risk is the low HDL. You very well may have some other potential lipid pattern risks but it would required a more advanced lipo protein test to determine. I would request such test from your doctor if your insurance will cover it or if you can afford them. As far as the HDL goes I wouldn't expect much change due to the vytorin10/40. I believe you will see a good drop in the LDL but little if any improvement in HDL.

I have managed to increase my HDL from 27 to 42 with diet and lifesyle changes. I went to a grainless diet that included plenty of the so called "healthy fats" and a moderate level of saturated animal fats. Mostly comming from fish, chicken and eggs with a little red meat thrown in every now and then. Plenty of green veggies and a few servings of fruit each day. Try to avoid all trans fats including any hydrogenated fats. Hopefully you don't have the advantage of the other lifesyle change I've made which appears to have accounted for about 1/2 of my improved HDL numbers. That gain was achieved by quiting smoking.

I've seen in you other post that you are exercising. I have read one study that found the benifit of exercise on HDL was improved when the majority of the persons fat intake was consumed in the meal following the exercise session. I haven't tried this one yet but it might be worth a shot.

My latest addition to the regiment is vitamin d. I've read a lot of info that links many many problems including low HDL to low vitamin d levels. So begining this Oct I've been supplementing. I'm not sure when I'll be getting another test but I'll let everyone know if it helps. I started with 2000iu per day in OCT. Increased to 3000 iu per day in NOV and upped it to 4000iu in DEC. I think I'll hold at 4000iu until March and then tapper it off by the end of MAY once there's plenty of sun shine.


Hi Red,

Glad to see you back. Also glad to see that your HDL has gone up to 42 from 27 that is great. keep it up! I am doing well on the Niacin. I am still on 2,000mg immediate release at bed time. My lipid panel will be during the first week of February. This will give me a good six months on 2,000mg daily dosage.

As for Vitamin D you bring up a very good point. Even though I from Arizona and we get plenty of sun here. Most of the time I am not out side. When I see my Doctor next week I am going to ask him to check my Vitamin D levels when I have my lipid panel in February. I consume pretty much no dairy at all and do not consume anything high in vitamin D. Also my mutli Vitamin that I use has only 400 IU of Vitamin D2 in a tablet form. There fore it is pretty much useless as you will need to consume Vitamin D3 in a soft gel form in order to receive good results.

I will keep you posted. Have you tired Niacin yet or still holding off?

It will be interesting to see how my numbers turn out as I am very anxious to find out. But in eight more weeks I will know. I feel more conferrable on the long term with taking Niacin as not only does it work well raising your HDL and lowering LDL. It also lowers LPA's and TRIG and offers many heart health benefits compared to Red Yeast Rice. My Doctor advised Red Yeast Rice is good and I agree it worked well for me. However my Doctor prefers to go with Niacin as he told me specifically Red Yeast Rice will not give me the protection like Niacin will.

My Doctor advised Red Yeast Rice is good and I agree it worked well for me. However my Doctor prefers to go with Niacin as he told me specifically Red Yeast Rice will not give me the protection like Niacin will.

Hi Arizona77,

Protection?
Please elaborate on protection.

Thanks

Lord Taff

Hi Arizona77,

Protection?
Please elaborate on protection.

Thanks

Lord Taff

Hi Lord Taff,

As for my Doctor he never had any issues with me taking Red yeast Rice as it worked so well for me previously. What he advised me was that Niacin does offer more Cardiovascular protection than Red Yeast Rice and this is fully quoting my Doctor. He advised Red Yeast Rice is great but he advised that Niacin has been proven over the years to offer more protection and reduce heart related problems and cardiac events. Red yeast Rice he said will not. He did not say Red yest Rice is not good. But he told me specifically he prefers his patients to be on Niacin and I trust my Doctor fully. :)

Hi Lord Taff,

As for my Doctor he never had any issues with me taking Red yeast Rice as it worked so well for me previously. What he advised me was that Niacin does offer more Cardiovascular protection than Red Yeast Rice and this is fully quoting my Doctor. He advised Red Yeast Rice is great but he advised that Niacin has been proven over the years to offer more protection and reduce heart related problems and cardiac events. Red yeast Rice he said will not. He did not say Red yest Rice is not good. But he told me specifically he prefers his patients to be on Niacin and I trust my Doctor fully. :)

hi lord staff this is miket78 wondering if i can take niaspan with my vytorin 10/40? to help my hdl lipids .

[QUOTE=miket78;3348600]hi lord staff this is miket78 wondering if i can take niaspan with my vytorin 10/40? to help my hdl lipids .[/QUOTE






also what kind of vitamin d do you think i could take ?

i am going to ask my doc about vitamin d level test to see where am i at.

[QUOTE=miket78;3348600]hi lord staff this is miket78 wondering if i can take niaspan with my vytorin 10/40? to help my hdl lipids .[/QUOTE






also what kind of vitamin d do you think i could take ?

i am going to ask my doc about vitamin d level test to see where am i at.

Hi Mike78,

Hope that everything works out for you and hope that you see an improvement with your HDL. I am a native Arizonan and we do get plenty of sun here. But I do not spend much time out side. When I see my Doctor next week I am going to ask him to check my Vitamin D levels.

As for a Vitamin D supplement due to the posting policy I am unable to recommend a brand. But you would need to take Vitamin D as "Vitamin D3" only in a soft gel form. To my understanding this is the best form of Vitamin D to take and it will help your Vitamin D levels. If you take Vitamin D2 it may still work but will not be as effective as "Vitamin D3" in a soft gel form.

Again all the best and hope you see an improvement soon. :)

Hi Lord Taff,

As for my Doctor he never had any issues with me taking Red yeast Rice as it worked so well for me previously. What he advised me was that Niacin does offer more Cardiovascular protection than Red Yeast Rice and this is fully quoting my Doctor. He advised Red Yeast Rice is great but he advised that Niacin has been proven over the years to offer more protection and reduce heart related problems and cardiac events. Red yeast Rice he said will not. He did not say Red yest Rice is not good. But he told me specifically he prefers his patients to be on Niacin and I trust my Doctor fully. :)

OK.

Mike,

Absolutely, I would not take Niaspan with Vytorin 10/40 without your dr giving you the go ahead. Niaspan is a prescription so hopefully your dr would just give you one or the other. Actually, Niaspan is much more beneficial for HDL, which seems to be your issue. You could try Slo-Niacin which is OTC and extended release. There again, I wouldn't go over 1000 mg combined with the Vytorin, without your dr approving.

I did see about a 10 point boost from the Vytorin 10/20 so you may surprise the Board:D. The only time my HDL was over 50 was while taking Vytorin 10/20 and 500 to 1000 mg/day of Slo-Niacin.

Good luck.

[QUOTE=miket78;3348603]

Hi Mike78,

Hope that everything works out for you and hope that you see an improvement with your HDL. I am a native Arizonan and we do get plenty of sun here. But I do not spend much time out side. When I see my Doctor next week I am going to ask him to check my Vitamin D levels.

As for a Vitamin D supplement due to the posting policy I am unable to recommend a brand. But you would need to take Vitamin D as "Vitamin D3" only in a soft gel form. To my understanding this is the best form of Vitamin D to take and it will help your Vitamin D levels. If you take Vitamin D2 it may still work but will not be as effective as "Vitamin D3" in a soft gel form.

Again all the best and hope you see an improvement soon. :)






can you get vitamin d3 from just drinking milk ?

or do i just need to buy the vitamins ?
also does it effect with 10/40 vytorin?

can you get vitamin d3 from just drinking milk ?

or do i just need to buy the vitamins ?
also does it effect with 10/40 vytorin?

You can get enough vitamin d from milk to prevent Rickets, but that is not nearly enough to be considered as optimal for your hdl. So yes you will most likely have to supplement with vitamin D3 unless it is sunny where you live or you use a tanning bed regularly. I have my own opinion about vitamin d3 dosage, but I suggest you do your own research to determin what dosage you feel is proper for you. There are a number of variables that need to be taken into account. It should have no interaction with your vytorin.

Red 60, just out of curiosity, how are you now feeling after you increased the Vit D? Are you observing any noticeable changes? I also, have been reading up on the subject and increased from 400 to 1200IU per day. Some very interesting information. Did you see the excellemt article in Scientific American two months ago on Vit D?

Arizona77
You have been waiting a long time for your next lipid test to get the results of your niacin experiment. We can’t stand the suspense any longer (only kidding). <removed>

Good luck

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