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sonic
12-12-2007, 11:03 PM
Hi..My son is 19 & was admitted to the hosp. on monday b/c his vision was blurry & his eye dr suggested it. well as soon as the hosp. took his BP they said he's not leaving till it goes down. at the time it was 205/156

I was stunned! they took blood/urine/ct scans/chest x-rays/stomach ultra-sound..etc..they gave him bp meds & his bp came down but is still high.

i am WORRIED to put it mildly..what the %$# is wrong with him??:(

they said this is NOT normal for a 19 yr old to have such high bp.. they gave us a script for potasium supplement/norvasc & another bp med..its been 9 hrs since he took them & he feels like crap.nauseated/cant hold down food./dizzy....etc..is this normal?

he has alot of headaches & is stressed out about missing exams (collage)
please put my mind at ease ..i dont know what to think.

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famnd
12-13-2007, 01:00 AM
Make sure he hasn't been taking any illegal or street drugs because they can cause HBP. Don't leave him alone. What is the other drug he is taking? Fam

sonic
12-13-2007, 02:02 AM
HI & thanks for replying...

he is taking SlowK 2 tabs twice a day
Norvasc 5mg..1 & half pills a day
Apo-hydralazine 25mg ..4 times a day

He has never takin street drugs..the most he takes is advil for headaches & accasional gravol.

will this just take time to get his body adjusted to all this new medication? l
He is soooo thin & eats like a bird & when he does eat its usually cereal/pasta or fruit.

:confused:

leea1206
12-15-2007, 01:56 PM
Sonic-

When do you get the test result's back? Sound's like they were very thorough with testing. I know you want to know NOW, what is going on. You will hopefully know alot more when the tests come back.

As for the meds, he was rxed 3 things at once, so it is no wonder that he is having some side effects. It's my understanding, it usually takes a few days to a few weeks to adjust to a new med, depending on the drug. I would call the Dr., describing his side effects as they might want to fine-tune his rxes. It may take a few adjustments, so that he is feeling better and his BP is improved, as well.

Sorry you are going through this ordeal. It is scary when your child is so young to be going through something like this.

Best wishes,
Leea

jacal5
12-16-2007, 06:26 PM
I just posted about Aleve raising my blood pressure to 140/82 from low to normal ranges in three weeks. I read that Advil can raise the pressure also. Don't take for granted that the doctors are aware of this, it's been my experience that many doctor's aren't aware of side effects of both prescription and/or non-prescription drugs. I stopped taking Aleve immediately after I researched this info.

If he had high blood pressure to start with, Advil could have made it worse.

Hope your son gets well soon!

sonic
12-17-2007, 03:19 AM
:(

Hi again...sons BP is in the average of 140-150 over 99...he is pretty tired & headachy..maybe from all the meds?

i am clueless as what to do...he is to start a new job on Jan 3rd...& his appoint. with the specialist is Jan 8th.:(

the waiting is killing me & i dont know whats gonna happen..will he need surgery? or meds for the rest of his life?
should he go to the new job? It is a great opportunity..its part of a collage co-op program.

I am gonna try to get the date moved up. I feel so helpless.
what would you do?
:confused:

bethsheba
12-17-2007, 08:58 PM
:(

Hi again...sons BP is in the average of 140-150 over 99...he is pretty tired & headachy..maybe from all the meds?

It's very possible but it may also be due to the hypertension. Some people have symptoms with hypertension...but I think it's fair to say that most do not--that's why they say it is "the silent killer".

i am clueless as what to do...he is to start a new job on Jan 3rd...& his appoint. with the specialist is Jan 8th.:(

the waiting is killing me & i dont know whats gonna happen..will he need surgery? or meds for the rest of his life?
should he go to the new job? It is a great opportunity..its part of a collage co-op program.

I am gonna try to get the date moved up. I feel so helpless.
what would you do?
:confused:

Yes, you must be overwhelmed to say the least...many of us had time to adjust as our numbers gradually went up...but you're in a different situation. Be gentle with yourself. First of all, you've identified one problem-high blood pressure. Secondly, you've got an appointment with a specialist, which is very good! Too many of us have messed around with physicians that lacked the necessary education/training/experience. Blood pressure is nothing to mess around with so you were wise to get an appointment to see a specialist...and so soon (although it may not seem like it now).

As far as the waiting goes, there are things to be done. I would recommend doing some basic reading about hypertension. The US Government puts out a report called the Seventh Report of the Joint National Commission on the Prevention, Detection, Evaluation, and Treatment of High Blood Pressure, and you can find it at www.nhlbi.nih.gov/guidelines/hypertension. Don't try to read the entire report!!! At least not all at once...simply check out the table of contents and zero in on the areas that interest you now. I've read the report over a year ago, but refer to it regularly as there is too much for someone like us to grasp all at once, especially under stress.

This report contains recommendations to physicians for the detection, evaluation, etc. of high blood pressure. It is "fairly" easy to read and to understand. Although the report won't tell you if he'll need surgery or if he'll be on meds the rest of his life, it will explain some of the causes of hypertension and what treatments are available. In other words, it will give you a better understanding of the condition so you will be prepared to ask good questions and to understand your options!

What would I do? Well everybody's different but I think you've done well thus far. Try to do some reading, and write down questions to ask. Make sure you bring pencil and paper to the appointment, ask for copies of medical records and lab reports--these will be helpful to refer to in the future.

As for the job, perhaps your son should check with his new specialist to see what he thinks...but that said, keep in mind that the doctor doesn't live in the patient's body so your son needs to make the final decision.

And last but not least, take some time to exercise, eat healthy, relax, and sleep well. You'll be a better advocate for your son if you're taking care of yourself.

Take care, and let us know if we can help in any way.

Bethsheba

sonic
12-18-2007, 07:44 PM
Tahnks bethsheba.
i callled yesterday & there was a cancelation at the dr's...i thought i'll go even though they wont have most test results back yet. so they said sons BP was still high, they "upped" his meds & his potasium pills from 4X a day to 8 X a day.

they said its either Hormonal OR he has a small tumour near his liver,,but dont worry ..99% are not cancerous. :confused:
he needs to do a 24hr urine test next week,,then bact for an update on Jan. 8th,,then an abdominal ct scan on feb 22nd. :( i cant beleive how long we have to wait....but i do feel better just knowing whats happening.
they also told him to eat/drink normally, even eat more salt than normal...something to do with the urine test?

:)

bethsheba
12-18-2007, 08:48 PM
Tahnks bethsheba.
i callled yesterday & there was a cancelation at the dr's...i thought i'll go even though they wont have most test results back yet. so they said sons BP was still high, they "upped" his meds & his potasium pills from 4X a day to 8 X a day.

they said its either Hormonal OR he has a small tumour near his liver,,but dont worry ..99% are not cancerous. :confused:
he needs to do a 24hr urine test next week,,then bact for an update on Jan. 8th,,then an abdominal ct scan on feb 22nd. :( i cant beleive how long we have to wait....but i do feel better just knowing whats happening.
they also told him to eat/drink normally, even eat more salt than normal...something to do with the urine test?

:)

Hello sonic,

I'm glad to hear you got an appointment for an earlier date so you have less time to worry. Waiting can be difficult, but just so you know, this process often isn't a short one. Instead it may be ongoing so keep it in mind and don't let it discourage you....just keep plugging along.

It sounds like the doctors are seriously investigating secondary causes (which they should be).... Some of the tests they are doing suggest they are interested in ruling out an adrenal gland disorder called pheochromocytoma (which is a secondary form of hypertension ) and you might want to read more about it when you can as it can be (from what I understand) a difficult conditon to diagnose.

Again, read as much as you can, get copies of the reports, and carry a pen and paper with you at all times so you can take notes or write down questions you have when you need to. Those of us with the sharpest minds experience brain farts when we're under stress.

Thanks for letting us know what's happening.

Take care.

Bethsheba

sonic
12-29-2007, 11:53 PM
wow,,,that was very interesting..my son has ALOT of those symptoms..he has always had excessive sweaty palms too. thanks.

bethsheba
12-30-2007, 08:32 AM
Hi Sonic,

Good to hear from you! Sounds like you may have been reading up on pheo, but I'm not sure. Hope whatever info you find is helpful...the more reading you do, the better. It makes it so much easier to communicate with the doctors.

Hope all is going well...and do let us know how you and your son are coming along.

Bethsheba

sonic
01-17-2008, 09:53 PM
Im a bit freaked out...son just showed me his feet & ankles..they are HUGE! im sure its a side effect from his meds...is this ok or should i take him to a dr?..i was thinking of cutting the norvasc in half...it was recently increased from 5mg to 10mg.:(

i check his BP every day & the average is 145/95

bethsheba
01-17-2008, 11:12 PM
Swelling legs and ankles is a side effect of the meds, and norvasc is one of many that can cause this side effect. Do you have the package insert? What does it say you do if this side effect occurs? Usually you are to contact the doctor's office right away...and I think it's a good idea to contact the pharmacist also. (If the doctors are unaware of the many side effects, the pharmacists are sometimes more knowlegable).

I don't think you should have problems cutting back the dose of norvasc (I had no problems when I disco'd my 10 mg overnight), but you really should check with your doctor and/or pharmacist first. It's very dangerous to change the dosage of some medications (or combos) without a gradual adjustment period.

Take care...

Bethsheba

sonic
01-17-2008, 11:31 PM
Thanks...i never thought of asking the pharmacist!

son just got a new job & doesnt want to take off any more time for dr's appointments...so i dont know what to do. I may cut the norvasc in half, the increase started about 10 days ago..so as long as i monitor his BP i think its ok...still gonna ask dr.

famnd
01-18-2008, 07:43 AM
Hi Sonic,

I noticed that you said that your son is supposed to eat more salt than usual for the urine test. It is very important that you get the precise instructions for the test. My 24 hr urine test was incomplete because there was not enough urine. So two important parts of the lab results were not there.

This may be the reason the Dr. wants him to eat more salt to increase the excretion of salt & water so there will be more urine.
These 24 hr urine tests are very expensive plus time consuming so they need to be done correctly. I know your son needs to find out what is wrong so he can get on with his life.

I agree with Beth it is common to get swelling in the ankles & feet with a number of these b/p meds. But if the swelling starts appearing in his hands, face, & even throat. Go to the ER as it maybe be an allergic reaction. Either way Beth is right you need to call his Dr. & pharmacist. Your son is lucky to have such a caring Mom. Fam

bethsheba
01-18-2008, 09:00 AM
Thanks...i never thought of asking the pharmacist!

Pharmacists are an IMPORTANT component of your health care team...they may be more knowlegable regarding certain side effects and interactions than your physician(s), and they may have better hours ;) making them more accessable.

...son just got a new job & doesnt want to take off any more time for dr's appointments...so i dont know what to do.

Although this is understandable, your son's life has changed and until his condition is controlled, or cured, his health should be his first priority...he can always get another job, but he can't get another body or another life! Perhaps his doctors can explain how important this is.

That said, communicating with your doctor's office is going to be a regular occurance whether it be weekly, monthly, or hourly. That doesn't mean you'll need to have an appt. every time you call. Sometimes they may ask you to adjust the dosage or timing of the existing med, sometimes they'll call in a different prescription, sometimes they'll ask you to come into the office in a day or two, and sometimes they'll send you to the ER...

...But, I may cut the norvasc in half, the increase started about 10 days ago..so as long as i monitor his BP i think its ok...still gonna ask dr.

Please don't assume that just because he was on a similar dose recently that you can go ahead on your own and adjust the medication. Abrupt withdrawal of some medications (beta blockers in particular) can cause strokes and heart attacks...and again, I would check with more than one source to get info on how to reduce or withdraw a med. You can read for yourself of the posters whose doctors told them they could stop "cold turkey" without problems...apparently their doctors weren't aware of the risks or withdrawal problems.

Please review famnd's info re swelling of hands, face, and throat...this may be a life threatening condition and you need to know what to do BEFORE it happens.

Bethsheba

sonic
01-18-2008, 05:23 PM
Thanks famnd...

i "hope" it was done correctly? He filled up the entire jug & it was a BIG jug...lol...they told him to Viod the first urine of the day so thats what he did .
I had no idea it was so expensive & time consuming, :confused:


i know i need to have more patience & beleive that the odds are in his favour.

famnd
01-18-2008, 11:29 PM
If I remember correctly, one is supposed to throw away the first urine & the collect the rest of one's urine including the first one the next morning. Sounds like he did it correctly.

Good luck. Fam

sonic
02-14-2008, 12:52 AM
Hi all...
just a quick up-date..my son was having some awful side effects from all the meds...for ex; swollen & sore feet...dizzyness, nausea, racing heart, frequent urination..etc..
I talked to his on-call dr at the hosp. & he told him to STOP taking the Hydralazine(sp) & to increase the norvasc from 5mg to 10 mg.

Im a little surprised by such a drastic change? :confused:

Has anyone suddenly stopped taking Hydrolazine? & what were the results?

Im just hoping his BP does NOT skyrocket.:(

we dont see the dr untill march 11th.....

time is dragging by~~~

bethsheba
02-14-2008, 08:35 AM
...I talked to his on-call dr at the hosp. & he told him to STOP taking the Hydralazine(sp) & to increase the norvasc from 5mg to 10 mg.

It's good that you called...side effects must be taken seriously! Although some side effects may be irritating, others can be deadly...and no, I am not exagerating.

Did you mean the doctor told him to stop taking the Apo-hydralazine?

...time is dragging by~~~

That means you can keep up with your reading, :). Although your son's doctors really sound like they know what they're doing (we haven't had any reports of "rolled eye syndrome" from you, :D), you (and your son) need to be actively involved in treatment.

Hope you are taking good care of yourself!

Bethsheba

sonic
02-23-2008, 11:49 PM
:(

hi all...
just another up-date..son was suppose to get his ct scan on friday,,the nurse called one hr before & said the machine had BROKE :mad:

I cant believe another set back..i am beyond fed-up. If i dont hear from her this week to re-shedule,,i am going to ask my dr to do something...not that he has THAT much pull, but it couldnt hurt.

sonic
03-12-2008, 12:42 AM
Hi all...
just wanted to post the latest up-date on son....we saw the dr today & he said the results from the ct scan were normal...NO signs of an adrenal tumour like he thought. :confused:

He said it "may" be a blocked artery leading to the kidney or even the heart..so we are now waiting 4 an MRI.

son is starting a new med tomorow...something like remeril,repamil?...sorry cant remember,its been a long day.
he also mentioned Renal artery stenosis?

I have no idea what we are in for......has anyone delt with this?

flowergirl2day
03-12-2008, 01:51 AM
Hi Sonic, :)

I am glad your son's hypertension is being investigated and its causes are being sought. The fact that his doctors are focusing their attention on renal issues makes sense. Sometimes the only way to determine the true cause of a medical problem is through the process of elimination. Isn't it good to know that his CT scan was normal? I hope he will have as many tests as possible and that the cause of his hypertension is found. Do not let the number of tests scare you. The more, the better!

I think his medication is Ramipril, which is an ACE inhibitor. Good choice for lowering blood pressure and protecting the kidneys. I am sorry I forgot what his symptoms were and assume it was hypertension at a young age. Is your son being cared for by a nephrologist? There are many diseases and conditions (including various types of inflammation in the kidneys and blood vessels supplying them) that can cause an increase in blood pressure. Many of these conditions can be treated successfully.

I know waiting to find out what's wrong must be very difficult. I can just imagine the thoughts going through your mind. Try not to worry too much. Things have a way of working out.

Good luck, :angel:
flowergirl

sonic
03-17-2008, 10:34 PM
Yes of course you are right..they are getting to the problem.

Im just wondering what if the MRI is normal...will he be on BP meds the rest of his life :confused:
will this be the end of the drs tests & will they get MORE invasive. :(
oh i have never heard of a nephrologist(sp)...i will google that now.

The MRI has been moved up to tomorow...(i was shocked)...but his next drs appoint. is end of april. :(

thanks for your kind words.

bethsheba
03-17-2008, 10:41 PM
sonic,

Some secondary condtions have cures so don't jump to conclusions either way. As difficult as it is, you need to take one day and one test at a time. When you first posted, I suggested this may be a long process...there aren't quick answers, unfortunately.

Have you tried reading zuzu8 or donnab's old posts? It may help to reread some of the posts about young people and secondary hypertension.

Take care.

Bethsheba

sonic
05-12-2008, 01:30 AM
Hi again...
I cant remember if i posted an update on another post?...so i am just stopping by to let you know we STILL have no answers as to the WHY he has high BP.:confused:

the mri was normal...he is now on 20mg ramapril...10mg norvasc & 4 tabs Slow K (pottasium)

dr said there are a few other tests they can do..Im hoping they are not "invasive"? :(

& he goes back end of June....this seems like an eternity away.
I was almost HOPING they would find something...at least i would know what we are dealing with & could fix it

I really cant imagine what could be causing the high BP..other than it is just hereditry.
thanks 4 listening~~~

music47
05-12-2008, 01:56 AM
Sonic

I am sorry about your son having problems with high blood pressure. I have high blood pressure also. My prayers are with your son and you.:angel:

Nadine:)





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