I did NOT deploy. I was NOT exposed to depleted Uranium,nerve agent,toxic oil clouds
or any other foreign substance.

I WAS exposed to vaccinations by the army in preparation for deployment in Germany. Since the army has always used us a lab rats, I feel that they are lying today about the TRUE cause of this illness.

They will look in this room, over in that closet, behind that chair, all in an attempt to control WHERE they don't look. Directly at themselves.

We were lab rats folks. Saddam didn't get us, Uncle Sam did. I was driving all over Europe delivering stuff to ports during the war.

I felt the FIRST symptoms a few weeks after getting my shots, or shall I say, my ex-wife did.

Every since then every woman has complained of PAINFUL contact with my semen. Other symptoms came later, but since drugs generally concentrate in a man's reproductive system, it would make sense that it would show up there first.

The government is lying folks. Think about it. THE ONLY COMMON FACTOR WE HAVE IS THE SHOTS!

Since the government waited until most of the GI's from the radiation experiments of the 50's died, and the Gi's of the 60's-70's exposed to Agent Orange died off, do you REALLY think they'll do anything differently
this time?

There can be NO other explanation. If folks who were not in the Gulf have it then the cause can only be the US government.

I want to reiterate your feelings. I never deployed either. But I took the shots.

And within two years, I had to have the lining of my uterus removed. It was so full of polyps and huge ridges of endometrial tissue, I had swollen to the size of an 8-week pregnancy. My periods had become so painful that I had to knock myself out for about three days every month. Having sex was agony. I've never had children, but I suspect I would have miscarried had I chosen to get pregnant.

The vaccinations we received supposedly included Brucella, a cattle disease that causes cows to miscarry and covers their uteruses and genitalia with blisters. It normally is not fatal to the cow, but the calf is either stillborn or cannot survive because of the blisters covering its nose, tongue and entire digestive tract.

There is one researcher who can help you. As far as I know he was never successful in accessing government funds. He does his research on Gulf War vets solely because his daughter was a crew chief in the Gulf. She brought the sickness home to infect him, Garth Nicolson, and his wife, Nancy. Nancy almost died. And since many of the Gulf War Syndrome diseases are actually animal infections, one of Nicolson's cats contracted the infection and died.

It's no joke. My dog caught the illness from me, was treated by my veterinarian, who was very familiar with the infection, and recovered after 1-1/2 years and numerous courses of antibiotics.

The Nicolsons are founders of the Institute of Molecular Medicine, website www.immed.org. (http://www.immed.org.) His research and recommended courses of treatment began with Mycoplasma Fermentans, the microbe readily found in contaminated and outdated vaccines, also found in dog kennels because it is so readily airborne.

His research into the Brucella was began after I and numerous other veterans brought our other mysterious ailments to his attention. His fees for testing your blood are tax deductible. And the money is well worth saving your own life. You CANNOT whip this illness without heavy doses of medication: antibiotics, antivirals, antibiotics, antiparsitics and antifungals.

The longer you wait to get some real medical treatment (not provided by the government), the less your chances of a full recovery. And take it from someone who has been too close to death this past year, the results of these vaccines and exposure to biological weapons returning in fabric, paper and protective masks from the Gulf are a slow, agonizing death.

I think it is also worth noting that very early in his research, Dr. Nicolson detected the same bacterial organisms in Texas prison inmates that he later isolated in Gulf War vets. Who gets used as a guinea pig even before the soldiers? Yep.

Why don't you guys launch a class action lawsuit against the government?

If the army injected you with diseases like "lab rats" how did they test you? What was their purpose in doing this? Did you go to medical examinations where they did checkups of some sort?

We can not sue the gov,when we were discharge
we all signed a paper that we would not sue the gov.But our wives can,after all they never signed the paper.They can sue,By saying that there husbands or wives are not the same when they got out of the service.This is just a thought i have that our wives and husband who did not serve in the military can sue the gov for the illness
that has taken so much from our partners.I hope this helped.Well God Bless
Mark A
US NAVY
Ps: I also was not deployed to the gulf
I got sick right after they gave me the shots.

If in fact the gulf war syndrome was caused from the vaxcines why does'nt everybody have the same symtoms? I agree that we were used as guinny pigs, but I also know bio weapons were used in Iraq, and sold to Iraq by companies in the US. TX Being one of those states. A terrible injustice was done to us all.

THIS ARTICLE SHOULD HELP YOU UNDERSTAND WHY http://content.health.msn.com/content/article/1700.51008

JMT C/U ROBB

http://content.health.msn.com/content/article/1700.51008

I THINK THIS WILL HELP SHED SOME LITE ON THIS SUBJECT..... JMT
C/U ROBB

The factors involved in why we are sick include both vaccines AND/OR service in the Gulf. There are several magazine articles that describe the types of vaccines and "cocktail" injections we received. One of the best is Vanity Fair, May 1999, "The Pentagon's Dirty Secret: The Mystery Behind Gulf War Syndrome". The reason spouses cannot sue within a class-action is that the spouses were not exposed to the same Infectious Diseases and biological weapons. Therefore, their symptoms are not the same. And the time it takes to tear down the spouses' and children's immune systems and reproductive organs depends upon their exposure to disease. It also depends upon their levels of physical fitness, plus their pregnancies or their lack thereof. Vaccines given before deployment here in the United States include Botulinum Toxoid, Anthrax, and Squalene (an artificial immune system booster that historically has caused Lupus, Multiple Schlerosis and Lou Gehrig's disease when injected into lab rats). Vaccines I suspect also were given include Hepatitus C and modified HIV biologically engineered to produce the condition known as HHV-6. Many, many more vaccines were given in the Gulf. And the biological weapons exposure of the veterans serving over there, did not stay over there. Biological weapons listed in Democratic Senator Donald Riegel's Senate Banking Committee report in 1994 include several biological weapons the U.S. shipped to Iraq between 1985 and August 2, 1990: Candida Albicans (various species), Anthrax, various enterococcal (intestinal bacterial) from animals such as birds, cattle, goats, sheep, animal intestines ad nauseum. Anything the U.S. shipped to Iraq was biologically engineered to be hard to detect, to cause massive birth defects (ethnic cleansing among Muslims, and consequently Americans), and to be "suspended" in liquid chemicals rotating in the heads of SCUDs and other missiles, some of which were designed by American defense contractors. Many of the biological agents survived the harsh desert environment inside "spores", which could remain dormant inside the sleeping bags, cots, protective masks, protective mask filters, worn uniforms, worn boots, worn web gear, and particularly paper that was returning from the Gulf for up to 10 years. All those letters written by soldiers in the desert sent to their wives were full of contaminants, because paper is the single best transmitter of disease, including AIDS, outside of infected blood itself. You read letters with your fingers, you swipe the tears in your eyes with your fingers, and you blow your tearful nose and swipe some more tears away with a paper Kleenex with those same fingers. And most mothers kiss their baby's fingers reaching up to dry their mother's sorrowful tears streaming down their cheeks. Then the baby puts his fingers in his mouth. Add to that, the fact that non-deployed soldiers were required to receive all the dirty equipment coming back from the Gulf, to clean it quickly, and to get ready to ship it back in a very short time-frame, you have total chaos. No unit knew where the equipment they received came from within the Gulf. Each unit received a certain number of crates full of equipment. They had to audit the crates' contents, report the contents to Central Supply, turn in contraband, return items to Central Supply that it would never use, and order items from Central Supply that it needed to function but never received back from the Gulf. Our sleeping bags we received were covered with blood, feces, urine, dust, filth. And we were expected -- without protective gloves, protective masks, or trunk linings -- to take them home in our civilian cars, launder them in civilian commercial laundromats, and have them dry and clean within a month because we were expected to re-deploy to the Gulf within two months. Everybody wants a quick and easy answer to Gulf War Illness and to why mothers, babies and, in my case, husbands, are sick. But you'd have to go back to 1980, when the U.S. and Iraqis were "allies" to understand it all. The exposures exported from the Middle East to the U.S., thanks to George Sr. and thanks to the influx of Middle-Eastern IT (Information Technology) workers flooding this country during the past decade, make a lawsuit insurmountable.
God Bless you all and God Bless the USA. Huah!

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Basically I searched the web under vaccines, squalene, and gulf war illnesses. And here's a short ammusing article on the same issue:
Government Admits Banned Substance Exists in Vaccines, but Maintains It Does No Harm
by Michael Devitt, senior associate editor
After years of repeated obfuscation, the federal government finally admitted that a banned chemical additive linked to the Gulf War syndrome has been found in some of the vaccines developed to protect military personnel from biological attack.

This October, a spokesman for the U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) contradicted previous statements made by the government when he said that "trace amounts" of squalene were found in several lots of a vaccine used to protect troops from anthrax, a deadly infectious agent, during a recent series of tests by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA). However, he denied that squalene had been deliberately used in the making of the vaccine, saying instead that "it's not something that's been added to the vaccine that we give our troops."

A naturally occurring substance, squalene is produced by the liver to help metabolize cholesterol and combat physical injuries. It is found in shark liver oil, some vegetable oils, cosmetics and various nutritional supplements.

Since the 1980s, squalene has also been studied by the DoD and the National Institutes of Health as an adjuvant to boost the efficacy of certain vaccines. However, because animal studies have shown that squalene adjuvants may generate unwanted side effects, including autoimmune versions of arthritis, multiple sclerosis and other conditions, the FDA has never approved the general use of any vaccine containing squalene in the United States.

The safety of squalene as a vaccine adjuvant, and the possibility that it was used illegally on military personnel, were called into question last year when a professor at Tulane University conducted a study of more than 400 Gulf War veterans suffering from Gulf War syndrome (GWS) - a condition characterized by general fatigue, joint pain, memory loss, an inability to concentrate, and other ailments.1 Ninety-five percent of those who exhibited symptoms of GWS had high levels of squalene antibodies in their blood. Many of the samples that tested positive for squalene were taken from soldiers who were not deployed to the Persian Gulf but still received the anthrax vaccine.

In a follow-up study published earlier this year, a Tennessee immunologist confirmed the findings of the Tulane study and concluded that the mysterious illnesses suffered by Gulf War veterans could have been caused by exposure to additives in vaccines.2 This conclusion was vehemently contested by Pentagon officials, who maintained that squalene was never used in the making of the anthrax vaccine, and that even it were present, it would not cause soldiers to become sick.

As early as this March, the FDA began releasing preliminary information stating that low levels of squalene had indeed been detected in some anthrax vaccines. In a written statement delivered during congressional hearings into the safety of the anthrax vaccine on March 20, the FDA said that test results showed "squalene content was determined to be in a level of low parts-per-billion and was comparable to levels determined in three other lots of the anthrax vaccine."3

On September 28, the FDA released another report showing that trace amounts of squalene were found in five lots of the anthrax vaccine. The FDA did not make clear whether the lots that contained squalene were the same lots used to inoculate troops during the Gulf War, or whether they are being used in the current anthrax vaccination program. A spokesperson for the FDA also declined to comment on any potential health problems associated with the vaccine.

As late as this October, however, the DoD was still insisting that squalene "is not in the anthrax vaccine" and that the substance "has not been used in vaccines ... for a considerable period of time."3

On October 4, Pentagon spokesman Kenneth Bacon, speaking at a DoD news briefing, was asked about the FDA's licensure of the anthrax vaccine:

"Well, the anthrax vaccine has been used safely for 30 years," Bacon said. "It was approved for use in 1970 by the FDA. It remains a safe vaccine. All the lots we have administered to the troops have been approved by the FDA for release. So they have reviewed them, and what they've told us is that they have not found squalene in those lots."

When told by the news media of the FDA's announcement in March that squalene had indeed been found in several lots of anthrax vaccine, Bacon quickly put a halt to the briefing, excused himself, then returned several minutes later with "new" information.

"Apparently, my briefing book had not caught up to the science on squalene," Bacon said. "... A few minutes ago, I said the FDA had assured us that there wasn't (squalene in the anthrax vaccine). It turns out within the last month, the methods of discovering squalene have improved, and we've moved to be able to discover it."4

"We don't know whether those lots were administered to the troops," Bacon continued, "but the important thing is that it was not added. If it's in there, it's in there as a naturally occurring substance ... but it's not something that's been added to the vaccine that we give our troops."

While the exact amount of squalene found in the vaccines was termed "miniscule" by Bacon, the fact that any squalene was found was more than enough to irritate Representative Jack Metcalf (R-WA), an opponent of the military's mandatory anthrax vaccination program.

"We've been told for three years there is no squalene in the anthrax vaccine," said an exasperated Metcalf, "then suddenly we are told, 'Oh yes, it's there, but it's no big deal: it's everywhere.'"5

Bacon's statement has prompted the House Government Reform Committee to instruct the General Accounting Office to investigate, asking the GAO to determine how squalene got into the vaccine, how dangerous it might be to human subjects, and what research is being done to determine and combat any potential side-effects.

According to the latest figures from the American Gulf War Veterans Association, 487,098 members of the military have received at least one dose of the anthrax vaccine. Of those receiving at least one dose, 1,152 people - approximately one in every 423 persons inoculated - have reported an adverse reaction.

A review by the Department of Health and Human Services earlier this year found that 592 cases were either "certainly" or "probably" caused by the vaccine, with 123 cases classified as "serious" and 10 requiring hospitalization due to an allergic or inflammatory response. Approximately 400 other personnel have either resigned from the military or faced disciplinary action rather than take the vaccine.6

References


Mackenzie D. Victims of vaccines. New Scientist April 10, 1999.

Asa PB, Cao Y, Garry R. Antibodies to squalene in Gulf War syndrome. Experimental and Molecular Pathology February 2000;68(1):55-64.

Department of Defense news briefing, October 4, 2000. Available from M2 Communications (http://www.m2.com).

Ibid.

Government now admits traces of chemical in anthrax vaccines. Alternative Medicine Newsletter October 6, 2000.

Evenson AJ, Martin T. Medical examiner links death to anthrax vaccine. Lansing State Journal September 28, 2000.




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You may be right.

I deployed, served, and got nearly the whole coctail of hazardous exposures, including the 'vaccines'.

I'm not prepared to say that the 'vaccines' are the only cause of what is affecting so many gulf war vets, but I hold it to be one of the prime suspects.

The symptoms are so varied, that I believe it is fair to say, it's likely the 'vaccines' have caused some of the problems.

Ruling out all the other hazards would be foolish, for sombody like me, when they were also a part of my experience.

Hi dylon8000,

I cant say as I knew of any official check ups they were conducting on us, after the gulf war, however, I have had an increasing interest, and suspicion, about the yearly (or bi-yearly) "AIDS blood tests" which quickly came out of nowhere, and were deemed mandatory, for all soldiers.

I'd say, no more than a year after returning home, the military suddenly started making demands that we each submit to having at least a couple of viles of blood drawn, no less than once every other year.

I always wondered why the hell they never gave us back any type of responce, or a report on what they found.

...They just came, collected the blood, and left...came, collected the blood, left...came, collected the blood, left...etc, etc, etc...

All this, supposedly because of their sudden concerns about "AIDS in soldiers".

If they were so concerned, then why was this not in place years earlier, when AIDS was a far bigger scare?

I'm not at all convinced, that the military was not keeping tabs, and running tests on us, that we did not know about.

My boyfriend was in the Gulf and while he was in the NAVY he began getting painful rashes on his body. They were mainly on his head, arms, underarms, and hands and fingers. Ever since he got out he has been going to the VA hospital. All they say is "Here take this medicine and see if it helps." It's getting ridiculous because he can't stop itching. When he scratches his skin flakes off and he starts bleeding. He never had this problem until he went to the NAVY. Any one know what this is?? What can we do about this??

Please take me seriously, because I've been through this many times already: Get some vaginal fungus cream from the nearest pharmacy, drug store or grocery store. I'm talking about women's vaginal cream or inserts for yeast infections. Gently wash one of the open wounds with antibacterial soap, gently ever so gently dry the wound, and apply the cream or melted vaginal insert. If by morning that cream or melted insert works, you need to see an infectious diseases doctor about systemic fungus.

Candida Albicans and two other species of fungus were used in the Gulf. Another fungus, known as the Red Fungus was presented to the Iraqis and Iranians by the Russians. Treatment recommendations are: Mycelex Troches, Diflucan tablets and Sporanox capsules, and for God's Sake, not all at the same time.

God Bless You and Godspeed recovery!