mysterygarage81
12-25-2007, 02:43 PM
Hello,
I am new to these boards and believe I have what is called trichotillomania. Now, I think my case is rather mild because I can control it if I have a really strong urge, but it keeps sneaking back up on me and I continue to find myself pulling hair out of the scalp.
I usually do it when I am downstairs watching TV, and have nothing to keep my hands busy with. I suspected this the other week, and got a beeswax candle and pulled it apart with my hands, and now I am forming the pieces into little balls. Anyway, this helped a lot and I completely forgot about pulling my hair out, but last night it started again and I couldn't control it.
If anybody out there has found a way to stop pulling hair out, I would be really glad to hear about it, as I am becoming very self conscious about my hair.
Thanks, and Happy Holidays! :)
I am new to these boards and believe I have what is called trichotillomania. Now, I think my case is rather mild because I can control it if I have a really strong urge, but it keeps sneaking back up on me and I continue to find myself pulling hair out of the scalp.
I usually do it when I am downstairs watching TV, and have nothing to keep my hands busy with. I suspected this the other week, and got a beeswax candle and pulled it apart with my hands, and now I am forming the pieces into little balls. Anyway, this helped a lot and I completely forgot about pulling my hair out, but last night it started again and I couldn't control it.
If anybody out there has found a way to stop pulling hair out, I would be really glad to hear about it, as I am becoming very self conscious about my hair.
Thanks, and Happy Holidays! :)
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missygt
01-12-2008, 06:37 PM
I suffer from this and for me it's devasting . Anytime something goes differently in my life it even gets worse .I am on meds but for me they don't help .I am never without tweezers , actually I own round 20 pairs. I sleep with the under my pillow...I pull hair from my face!. I hardly have eyebrows and can't quit!....I hate myself for it, but thats just another thing I hate myself for!..I know these feelings are my OCD and Trich. but it still doesn't help.
Good luck and best wishes with your problem....for me it's been a few years with the pulling!
Good luck and best wishes with your problem....for me it's been a few years with the pulling!
missygt
01-12-2008, 06:42 PM
already posted.
veryitchy
01-12-2008, 10:53 PM
Hey,
I was diagnosed with trich about 5 years ago. Like you, I pull when I am watching TV, studying, etc. I tried anxiety medicine and even habitual therapy but none of it ever worked. If anyone has any suggestions, I would GREATLY appreciate it! Since most of my friends and family are aware of my condition, I usually have them stop me when I am pulling becasue I am usually unaware. Also, as creepy as it sounds, I found a really coarse piece of rope that I will hold in situations where I will likely pull... weird I know but I am usually desperate for anything that will work.
I am always up for any suggestions. Not to be negative but it definetly is a battle to quit... Many people treat it like an addiction.. the longest I have lasted in the 5 years of my disorder is 1 month 2 days pull free! Good luck!
I was diagnosed with trich about 5 years ago. Like you, I pull when I am watching TV, studying, etc. I tried anxiety medicine and even habitual therapy but none of it ever worked. If anyone has any suggestions, I would GREATLY appreciate it! Since most of my friends and family are aware of my condition, I usually have them stop me when I am pulling becasue I am usually unaware. Also, as creepy as it sounds, I found a really coarse piece of rope that I will hold in situations where I will likely pull... weird I know but I am usually desperate for anything that will work.
I am always up for any suggestions. Not to be negative but it definetly is a battle to quit... Many people treat it like an addiction.. the longest I have lasted in the 5 years of my disorder is 1 month 2 days pull free! Good luck!
Shauleen
01-13-2008, 01:29 PM
I have suffered from this for 35 years and now also pull out my eyebrows and eyelashes. The thing I noticed about it is, I always use my left hand to pull out my hair even though I'm right handed. I've never used my right hand, I've tried (just to see if I could) and find it really awkward. And yes, it's the coarse ones that give the most satisfaction. Sometimes I hate throwing the coarse ones away until I've smoothed them out with my thumb nail - and if I drop it before I do this, I feel really annoyed and cheated. I also eat the tip of the hair plus all of the lashes and brows. I think this is quite common from what I've read about this condition.
missygt
01-14-2008, 10:13 AM
Well, as for me too, the course ones are the best!.... I don't eat them but...I have to take each one while still holding it in the tweezers and rub it across my lower lip...I have never heard anyone else say that they do this....my therapist suggested putting a rubber band around my wrist and each time I felt like pulling , snap the band but...I pull constantly and it only keep breaking...today is a highly stressful day for me...I really don't know how I will handle it...I woke up feeling guilty for eating some candy last night , so I feel like I am so fat now...and all I want to do is throw up...plus so much more....pray i'll get through!
Shauleen
01-14-2008, 05:34 PM
Hi Missy, I do that too, I run the hair along the outside of my lips to feel the full benefit of the coarseness and I too am addicted to my tweezers - I panic if I can't remember where I left them. I also pluck my face daily but for the rest; head, brows and lashes, I used my fingers. The skin on my index finger is thick, rough and sore from doing this as my thumbnail presses against it so much.
I hope you're feeling much better today. Thank you for your reply.
I hope you're feeling much better today. Thank you for your reply.
missygt
01-14-2008, 07:41 PM
well i truly thought i was alone on running it over my lips!!..this is such a bad day that i'm getting ready to take my 4th bath!...what this does for me i don't know..because just as soon as i get in ..i start to panic and jump out!....i have rough places too on my fingers but i am right handed and use my right for the pulling!...i own at least 20 pairs of tweezers and freak out if i mis- place them..i could stay up all night looking for them...right now the anxiety level in my house is stressed to the limit...our daughter (only child) got married 2 years ago shes 23.....moved straight in our house with her husband and are still here..he works when he wants to...and after holding a job for a yr. she quit...so mom and dad are responsible for everyone...and we live on a fixed income. we kept on until they got and apt..and they spent one night there and were back the next morning..the stress is more than we can take!...all of this is stressing me to no end!!!....so far today..i have purged, pulled hair, cried and so on...and took enough baths for the whole family...now i think i'll go paint the bathroom..it don't need it...but i do!
Quirk
01-23-2008, 09:10 AM
it's always so good to hear that other people go through what i do!!! i don't know anyone else in my life with trich. i'm 23, and i've had it since i was about 5. maybe younger.... i always used to pull out my eyelashes and my mother would try making me pay [nickels], putting vaseline/blistex on my fingers, everything. i didn't really know why she made me stop and i know i liked doing it- she'd even cut my nails, thinking that it would prevent me fromt pulling, but the roughness of newly cut nails made pulling even easier!!!! even as a kid i couldn't help doing this.
i only did my eyelashes until i was about 17. then i started with one tuft of "odd" hair in the back of my head. the hair just grows differently, and i couldn't stop playing with it. i even started to develope a bald spot back there.... i stopped that for awhile (though keeping up with my eyelashes), and then once i was in college, someone told me about trich (she had OCD). i always just thought it was a bad habit, but once my symptoms started wosening, i realized that it was totally what i had.
late in my first year of college, i started with my eyebrows, and they have been the absolute WORST for me. i'm out of college 2 years now, and my eyebrows are so tiny.... i hate them. it makes me totally miserable looking at myself with no eye make-up. whenever i sleep over my boyfriend's, or even get out of the shower in my own house, i make sure there is make-up on my eyebrows before anyone can even see me.... i feel so pathetic and i don't know what to do to stop.
the one thing that really helped for awhile, at my boyfriend's suggestion, was to wear gloves ALL the time. this really prevents you from pulling, though it gets annoying when you're trying to write/type. but otherwise try to keep gloves on ALL the time! and when i don't have the gloves on and i catch myself, i imagine that i'm wearing gloves. this does help a little, although having the actual gloves on is the most helpful.
as far as my little "trich quirks," i don't really rely on tweezers to remove hair. someone else also said this, but i also predominantly use my left hand to pull, even though i'm righty! (which is why my left eyebrow is tinier than the right.... that and there are more coarse brows on the left for some reason.) i also take the hair, either from my face or head, and if there's a nice big root on it, i'll run it across my bottom lip. i've heard of people eating them but i don't do that. i do always look for the most coarse, most "queer" hair.
anyway, that's my trich story. i'm always glad to hear about other people who go through this so i don't feel so alone!!! :) GOOD LUCK EVERYONE!!!!
i only did my eyelashes until i was about 17. then i started with one tuft of "odd" hair in the back of my head. the hair just grows differently, and i couldn't stop playing with it. i even started to develope a bald spot back there.... i stopped that for awhile (though keeping up with my eyelashes), and then once i was in college, someone told me about trich (she had OCD). i always just thought it was a bad habit, but once my symptoms started wosening, i realized that it was totally what i had.
late in my first year of college, i started with my eyebrows, and they have been the absolute WORST for me. i'm out of college 2 years now, and my eyebrows are so tiny.... i hate them. it makes me totally miserable looking at myself with no eye make-up. whenever i sleep over my boyfriend's, or even get out of the shower in my own house, i make sure there is make-up on my eyebrows before anyone can even see me.... i feel so pathetic and i don't know what to do to stop.
the one thing that really helped for awhile, at my boyfriend's suggestion, was to wear gloves ALL the time. this really prevents you from pulling, though it gets annoying when you're trying to write/type. but otherwise try to keep gloves on ALL the time! and when i don't have the gloves on and i catch myself, i imagine that i'm wearing gloves. this does help a little, although having the actual gloves on is the most helpful.
as far as my little "trich quirks," i don't really rely on tweezers to remove hair. someone else also said this, but i also predominantly use my left hand to pull, even though i'm righty! (which is why my left eyebrow is tinier than the right.... that and there are more coarse brows on the left for some reason.) i also take the hair, either from my face or head, and if there's a nice big root on it, i'll run it across my bottom lip. i've heard of people eating them but i don't do that. i do always look for the most coarse, most "queer" hair.
anyway, that's my trich story. i'm always glad to hear about other people who go through this so i don't feel so alone!!! :) GOOD LUCK EVERYONE!!!!
Lila Anne
02-26-2008, 04:06 AM
I've had that since the early part of my teen years. I pull out my eye brows and eye lashes mainly. I've learned to control it when I'm awake most of the time by reminding me of how bad I look without brows and lashes and keeping busy. Sometimes I still find myself doing it and not able to stop though. But when I'm sleeping I pull out my eye brows in my sleep!! You know how when you're asleep but part of you kind of isn't?? Well I'll be having a dream and in the dream I'll be doing something like picking flowers or something like that, then when I wake up I realize I was picking my eye brows and there is now a bald spot. :( The only things that have helped me with this is wearing a mask, but sometimes it comes off in my sleep, and cutting my fingernails down to the point where they bleed and it hurts to touch anything. Anyone else pull them in your sleep?? Its really bothering me.
PinkNBlondePunk
02-26-2008, 01:56 PM
Oh my gosh.. it's amazing to hear that I am not the only one who does these things. I love tweezers, and I own about 20 of them as well, only to lose them all the time, buy more tweezers and find them later! If I do not have my tweezers, I will pull hair out from my face and eyebrows until the skin on them bleeds-- if I have a coarse hair that I cannot get, I will sit down on a chair and pull for hours and hours until I get it even if that means I am late for work or I don't get anything done! I also rub the coarse hairs on my lips as well.. I really thought I was the only one to do that!!!
Other things that are related to trichotillomania that I have done: skin picking (starts with a pimple or mark, I now have scars all over my body) and cheek biting.. I bit my cheeks when I was a little girl until I got so scared I would bite through all the way through my cheeks! Did anyone else ever do this?
Other things that are related to trichotillomania that I have done: skin picking (starts with a pimple or mark, I now have scars all over my body) and cheek biting.. I bit my cheeks when I was a little girl until I got so scared I would bite through all the way through my cheeks! Did anyone else ever do this?
PinkNBlondePunk
02-26-2008, 08:26 PM
Does anyone else have anything to add about Trichotillomania? It'd really help me out..
MiriamOLong
02-27-2008, 12:21 AM
Hi.I have been suffering with trichotillomania for about 16 years. I started pulling out my hair when I was 12, looking back I think I started doing it out of stress: I moved to a new city and school and the year before my mom had cancer. The older I got I started developing anxiety problems, slight OCD and occasional depression. Last week my pcp suggested I try celexa for other problems I am having.
It has been one of the best decisions I have ever made. She doesn't know about my trich, I have never talked about it before, but I have noticed huge changes!! Before taking the medicine I would feel that I had to pull out my hair, there was tension and anxiety until I pulled out my hair and felt instant relieve once I pulled. The anxiety I felt that made me pull my hair is not as bad and I haven't pulled my hair in almost a week!! Celexa does something with my serotonin level (not sure what) but it is definately helping.
I still feel my hair which I am trying to stop but the need to pull has started going away. I hope the medicine will continue helping and I highly recommend it.
It has been one of the best decisions I have ever made. She doesn't know about my trich, I have never talked about it before, but I have noticed huge changes!! Before taking the medicine I would feel that I had to pull out my hair, there was tension and anxiety until I pulled out my hair and felt instant relieve once I pulled. The anxiety I felt that made me pull my hair is not as bad and I haven't pulled my hair in almost a week!! Celexa does something with my serotonin level (not sure what) but it is definately helping.
I still feel my hair which I am trying to stop but the need to pull has started going away. I hope the medicine will continue helping and I highly recommend it.
Psychobabble
02-27-2008, 01:00 AM
I, too, have trichotillomania. I pull the hairs out of my temples (my right one more so than my left). I will rub the root of the hair across my lips (so for those of you concerned about being the only ones who do this, do not fret! :) ) I do it to feel the 'moistness' of the root. I also sometimes bite the root off (but I don't swallow it).
Lila Anne: fortunately, I do not pull my hair in my sleep. I'm sorry that you have to go through that! It must be a strong urge to pull if it occurs in your sleep. Perhaps you might talk to a therapist who might have some suggestions on how to reduce the likelihood of pulling in your sleep.
I pull pretty much any time I am studying, watching t.v., or when I'm worried about something (which is quite often!..haha). I'd say I pull during about 85% of my waking hours. Also, I experience a lot of anxiety upon having to go to new hairdressers to get haircuts because I have to tell them to be careful when cutting the hair on my temples as the hair is thinner or completely gone in those areas (they aren't huge and can be covered by other hair...but if the hairdresser isn't careful, these spots can be exposed). I just hate having to tell pepole about this problem. It's funny, I know that the pulling affects my appearance and my mood in negative ways, yet I can't stop!! I tried to apply CBT to my trich....but it is sooooooo much work. I'm just focusing my energy on reducing my OCD which is more important to me right now.
Has anyone else had any success in stopping their trich? (besides medication...I am on medication and it helps tremendously for my OCD but not for my trich).
Lila Anne: fortunately, I do not pull my hair in my sleep. I'm sorry that you have to go through that! It must be a strong urge to pull if it occurs in your sleep. Perhaps you might talk to a therapist who might have some suggestions on how to reduce the likelihood of pulling in your sleep.
I pull pretty much any time I am studying, watching t.v., or when I'm worried about something (which is quite often!..haha). I'd say I pull during about 85% of my waking hours. Also, I experience a lot of anxiety upon having to go to new hairdressers to get haircuts because I have to tell them to be careful when cutting the hair on my temples as the hair is thinner or completely gone in those areas (they aren't huge and can be covered by other hair...but if the hairdresser isn't careful, these spots can be exposed). I just hate having to tell pepole about this problem. It's funny, I know that the pulling affects my appearance and my mood in negative ways, yet I can't stop!! I tried to apply CBT to my trich....but it is sooooooo much work. I'm just focusing my energy on reducing my OCD which is more important to me right now.
Has anyone else had any success in stopping their trich? (besides medication...I am on medication and it helps tremendously for my OCD but not for my trich).
momrobare
03-04-2008, 06:33 AM
Hello,
I am new to these boards and believe I have what is called trichotillomania. Now, I think my case is rather mild because I can control it if I have a really strong urge, but it keeps sneaking back up on me and I continue to find myself pulling hair out of the scalp.
I usually do it when I am downstairs watching TV, and have nothing to keep my hands busy with. I suspected this the other week, and got a beeswax candle and pulled it apart with my hands, and now I am forming the pieces into little balls. Anyway, this helped a lot and I completely forgot about pulling my hair out, but last night it started again and I couldn't control it.
If anybody out there has found a way to stop pulling hair out, I would be really glad to hear about it, as I am becoming very self conscious about my hair.
Thanks, and Happy Holidays! :)
Hi
I used to pull the hair on my head out and line them up on my desk in high school until the time I went to see and endocrinologist for my Thyroid and the test he wanted to perform took me off my synthroid for almost 3 months. Then my hair fell out and didn't grow back...so that ended that one OCD problem.
But I still find myself pulling out my eyelashes sometime a hundred at a time! And both eyes have to have the same amount of eyelashes taken from each!
so not only do I have no hair thanks to my thyroid but I have no eyelashes thanks to OCD!:mad:
I am new to these boards and believe I have what is called trichotillomania. Now, I think my case is rather mild because I can control it if I have a really strong urge, but it keeps sneaking back up on me and I continue to find myself pulling hair out of the scalp.
I usually do it when I am downstairs watching TV, and have nothing to keep my hands busy with. I suspected this the other week, and got a beeswax candle and pulled it apart with my hands, and now I am forming the pieces into little balls. Anyway, this helped a lot and I completely forgot about pulling my hair out, but last night it started again and I couldn't control it.
If anybody out there has found a way to stop pulling hair out, I would be really glad to hear about it, as I am becoming very self conscious about my hair.
Thanks, and Happy Holidays! :)
Hi
I used to pull the hair on my head out and line them up on my desk in high school until the time I went to see and endocrinologist for my Thyroid and the test he wanted to perform took me off my synthroid for almost 3 months. Then my hair fell out and didn't grow back...so that ended that one OCD problem.
But I still find myself pulling out my eyelashes sometime a hundred at a time! And both eyes have to have the same amount of eyelashes taken from each!
so not only do I have no hair thanks to my thyroid but I have no eyelashes thanks to OCD!:mad:
MiriamOLong
03-04-2008, 02:03 PM
tomorrow will be 2 weeks without any pulling...I am super excited but am wondering how long it will take for my hair to start growing back. I have 3 bald patches on my head that I can cover by wearing my hair a certain way. I really think if I wasn't taking celexa I would still be constantly pulling. I know medication isn't the answer for everyone but it has helped me a lot.
HdlR
03-04-2008, 11:20 PM
That's awesome Miriam! I hope your hair grows in quickly.
hair puller 101
03-07-2008, 04:33 PM
hi, i have been a puller for 5 years, nothing helps, no meds, no behavior treatment, not even hypnosis. i am basically just being aware, ALL THE TIME, about my hands, long fingernails help!, also bandaids too, one on the thumb and one on the finger, oh and sitting on the puller hand, that too. that's just what i have tried.
i have a question for those of you that have had it for longer, does the hair grow back? in my case it seems that a pull and that hair is gone forever, every year the patch has gotten bigger and bigger with just short whispy hairs, now its about 60% of my head, the top of my head too, so i can't hide it. not one person in my life knows, don't think they would understand. anywho, if anyone has any insight on the whole regrowing thing, please let me know
thanks!!
i have a question for those of you that have had it for longer, does the hair grow back? in my case it seems that a pull and that hair is gone forever, every year the patch has gotten bigger and bigger with just short whispy hairs, now its about 60% of my head, the top of my head too, so i can't hide it. not one person in my life knows, don't think they would understand. anywho, if anyone has any insight on the whole regrowing thing, please let me know
thanks!!
Cheet0R
03-12-2008, 02:15 AM
ahhahaha we r fkd; i am so sick of wearing a dang hat u guys- i know u know how i feel- i had to lie to my family and wear a wig when i visit home and makeup some new crap everytime i see them and "ohh," they love my hair so much- its so full and wondeful and long/ then i go and take the itchy sht off alone in my room and i look like frkn phantom of the opera with the patches of missing hair and scabs like some head trauma-cept im not living in piles of gold under a castle operahouse. i almost wish id fall on my head or somethin and get stitches there bc then id have an excuse for a minute(:
its so **** frustrating- and i will NOT let the people around me know- i feel too humiliated with myself to show this new problem- id rather be mad at myself when im alone ... atleast then i can sit in the dark and feel like a crazy person in the comfort of my own crazy self, haaha(: ..god.. so i used to be a dancer- in college for extra money- and then i got excema- which made me freakout bc i thought i got some nasty disease from the dirty sortof place i worked at...wayy later on my mom finally told me that i had it when i was little &after 5 doctors they tell me im lucky enough to have it reoccur- of course by this point id gotten tested for all kinds of crap- had the stuff breakout all over and on my head which made the hair pulling even worse... so dancing is shot.. which is fine but now im becoming a hermit. and ever since theres a bald spot theres always hairs around it far away enough from other ones that i feel like i need to rip out..
u can wear gloves and feel like a dmb***, or a skihat inside...winters ending so that will suck..but it works when u do...i even shaved my head into a mohawk recently so i wont pull the hairs if i cant even grab them..then maybe when it seems full enough i can let it all grow together--- im scared im gonna f myself tho ..i read somewhere that hair follicles have a lifespan..and regenerate themselves about 6 to 12 times after falling out- then theyre gone forever...i know they take like 6 weeks to showup again as babyhairs..and for people who have this issue..its waaayyy too long, aint it. atleast when we evolve past the need for hair we will all be cool, lol<3 maybe we'll develop scales, and we can start a club for when we pull those off...u know, pre-shedding disorder...i'd have it(: like picking at a sunburn too soon..geez(: lol whatamess<3
its so **** frustrating- and i will NOT let the people around me know- i feel too humiliated with myself to show this new problem- id rather be mad at myself when im alone ... atleast then i can sit in the dark and feel like a crazy person in the comfort of my own crazy self, haaha(: ..god.. so i used to be a dancer- in college for extra money- and then i got excema- which made me freakout bc i thought i got some nasty disease from the dirty sortof place i worked at...wayy later on my mom finally told me that i had it when i was little &after 5 doctors they tell me im lucky enough to have it reoccur- of course by this point id gotten tested for all kinds of crap- had the stuff breakout all over and on my head which made the hair pulling even worse... so dancing is shot.. which is fine but now im becoming a hermit. and ever since theres a bald spot theres always hairs around it far away enough from other ones that i feel like i need to rip out..
u can wear gloves and feel like a dmb***, or a skihat inside...winters ending so that will suck..but it works when u do...i even shaved my head into a mohawk recently so i wont pull the hairs if i cant even grab them..then maybe when it seems full enough i can let it all grow together--- im scared im gonna f myself tho ..i read somewhere that hair follicles have a lifespan..and regenerate themselves about 6 to 12 times after falling out- then theyre gone forever...i know they take like 6 weeks to showup again as babyhairs..and for people who have this issue..its waaayyy too long, aint it. atleast when we evolve past the need for hair we will all be cool, lol<3 maybe we'll develop scales, and we can start a club for when we pull those off...u know, pre-shedding disorder...i'd have it(: like picking at a sunburn too soon..geez(: lol whatamess<3
Lila Anne
03-12-2008, 03:23 AM
I wish Trich was more known to the world and understood. No one I knew had ever heard of it until they met me, and before I knew there was a name for it and it was a type of OCD I didn't understand it and they thought I pulled my hair on purpose and would make jokes about it. I once saw and episode of Tyra about it and that is the only time I had ever seen it mentioned on T.V. I wish there was more help out there for it. All my therapists said was to take medications and they would help, but they never seemed to at all. I have gotten better with it over the years though so hopefully someday I can stop for good. Good luck to everyone dealing with it. I know its a pain, but you're definitely not alone like at one time I thought I was the only one who pulled out their hair. I was so relieved to know I wasn't the only one and that there was a name for it.
GracieBelle
04-26-2008, 06:11 PM
Hi,....... Eyebrows! Ohboy, what am I doing this for!!! I'm 67, and for the past few months I've been plucking out (with tweezers) my eyebrows. Now I have none, and have to draw them on (EWWW) and I think it looks awful! I keep telling myself I am NOT going to do this and let them grow out. BUT I do this anyway, as there is some comfort to doing it, and especially while I read. Afterwards they hurt, there is pain all along both eyebrows. I swear I will not do this anymore, but... *sigh*
When hair in my brows begin to grow in, there is itching, prickly feeling and I can't wait to get the darn things out. Then its the "comfort" of pulling those suckers out, then the pain again.... vicious cycle! I just hate doing this.
I am not bored, have a wonderful husband, feel very lucky in that part of my life, have very good health, tons of neat loves and hobbies i.e., our cats, sewing, quilting, dolls, etc. Have told my doc about this, of course he said "mmm Trich".... and wrote it down. NOW WHAT!!! (oooh yeah, did I mention I tend to have anxiety?) I would really appreciate any comments about this. Thanks so much.
Graciebelle
When hair in my brows begin to grow in, there is itching, prickly feeling and I can't wait to get the darn things out. Then its the "comfort" of pulling those suckers out, then the pain again.... vicious cycle! I just hate doing this.
I am not bored, have a wonderful husband, feel very lucky in that part of my life, have very good health, tons of neat loves and hobbies i.e., our cats, sewing, quilting, dolls, etc. Have told my doc about this, of course he said "mmm Trich".... and wrote it down. NOW WHAT!!! (oooh yeah, did I mention I tend to have anxiety?) I would really appreciate any comments about this. Thanks so much.
Graciebelle

