TRID6006
12-03-2002, 09:07 PM
Hello All,
I just found this message board tonight (12/02/02). I just read an article on Hyperbalance. I was wondering if anyone out there had some experience with this "herbal" medication? Does anyone have any experience with Norvasc the HBP medication?
I was just recently placed on Norvasc for my high blood pressure. I was on Monopril before Norvasc and on Atenalol before Monopril. I was doing great on Monopril but my insurance company will no longer pay for non-generic drugs. The Norvasc is making me anxious, interupting my sleeping and making me nauseous every other day in the evenings. I am trying to continue taking the medication hoping the side affects will eventually go away. I have been taking the Norvasc for one week.
To give you a little medical background I have had HBP since I was in my late teens but did not start treating it with medication until I was 27. I am 6.0' and weigh 270 lbs.. I know I sound over weight for my height but I am really only about 15-20 lbs. over weight. I have a very large muscle/skeletal frame. I know losing the extra 15-20 lbs. will improve my blood pressure but it easier said than done.
Any input would be greatly appreciated on either subjects Hyperbalance/Norvasc.
Thanks
Bryson
I just found this message board tonight (12/02/02). I just read an article on Hyperbalance. I was wondering if anyone out there had some experience with this "herbal" medication? Does anyone have any experience with Norvasc the HBP medication?
I was just recently placed on Norvasc for my high blood pressure. I was on Monopril before Norvasc and on Atenalol before Monopril. I was doing great on Monopril but my insurance company will no longer pay for non-generic drugs. The Norvasc is making me anxious, interupting my sleeping and making me nauseous every other day in the evenings. I am trying to continue taking the medication hoping the side affects will eventually go away. I have been taking the Norvasc for one week.
To give you a little medical background I have had HBP since I was in my late teens but did not start treating it with medication until I was 27. I am 6.0' and weigh 270 lbs.. I know I sound over weight for my height but I am really only about 15-20 lbs. over weight. I have a very large muscle/skeletal frame. I know losing the extra 15-20 lbs. will improve my blood pressure but it easier said than done.
Any input would be greatly appreciated on either subjects Hyperbalance/Norvasc.
Thanks
Bryson
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sunbird_owner
12-05-2002, 05:47 PM
I think it might work. I was down 15 points last night. That was one pill. I will give you numbers as I continue to take it. One reading is of course no measure at all. Diastolic fell 106 to 91. Systolic stayed at 160.
This treatment is suppused to take 3 weeks so as I said, I can report more later.
This treatment is suppused to take 3 weeks so as I said, I can report more later.
JaniceS
12-06-2002, 11:33 AM
What is hyperbalance?
sunbird_owner
12-08-2002, 09:16 PM
Hyperbalance is based on chinese herbal medicine. I am looking for my reasearch and can't find it at the moment. At any rate, one of the herbs is Uncaria rhynchophilla (Chinese cat's clay [not the Brazillian type]) and it is r-e-a-l-l-y hard to find. It looks like this person has done their homework.
It looks like I am down about 10 points in 4 days on just one tablet. (Two are recommended).
My normal 160 / 99.
Day sys dy
0 163 102
1 167 91
2 153 92
3 160 86
4 144 92 (I think this one invalid - just ran
(3 miles and pulse still at 85 )
Side effects very interesting - none so far - it doesn't even slow running like ace inhibitors.
It looks like I am down about 10 points in 4 days on just one tablet. (Two are recommended).
My normal 160 / 99.
Day sys dy
0 163 102
1 167 91
2 153 92
3 160 86
4 144 92 (I think this one invalid - just ran
(3 miles and pulse still at 85 )
Side effects very interesting - none so far - it doesn't even slow running like ace inhibitors.
JaniceS
12-19-2002, 11:11 AM
How's the progress with Hyperbalance? I talked to my dr. about it yesterday (he's a naturopathic type doctor) and he thought it would work. He's ordered some for me to try.
sunbird_owner
12-19-2002, 05:58 PM
OK sports fans here are the numbers. I should mention that I am also taking 1000mg Calcium, 500mg Magnesium, and 25 mg Zinc.
Day No-Hyperbalance Yes-Hyperbalance
1 167/107 167/91
2 160/100 153/92
3 160/93 160/86
4 144/98 144/92
5 163/102 146/83
6 155/85
7 141/81
Stats
No Hyperbalance Average 158.8/100
St. Dev. 8.56/5.15
Hyperbalance Average 152/87.1
St. Dev 9.3/4.53
Really neat is if you skip
first two Hyperbalance days assuming it takes time
to work - Average is 149/85.4
Recorded on 12/19/2002
Over trial period
Systolic down 6.8
Diastolic down 12.9
Day No-Hyperbalance Yes-Hyperbalance
1 167/107 167/91
2 160/100 153/92
3 160/93 160/86
4 144/98 144/92
5 163/102 146/83
6 155/85
7 141/81
Stats
No Hyperbalance Average 158.8/100
St. Dev. 8.56/5.15
Hyperbalance Average 152/87.1
St. Dev 9.3/4.53
Really neat is if you skip
first two Hyperbalance days assuming it takes time
to work - Average is 149/85.4
Recorded on 12/19/2002
Over trial period
Systolic down 6.8
Diastolic down 12.9
JaniceS
12-19-2002, 09:13 PM
I'm anxious to get the Hyperbalance from my dr. He said it would be in next week. Have you heard of something called RESPeRATE to help lower BP?
sunbird_owner
12-20-2002, 11:13 AM
I have not heard of Resperate. I did my research based on that of Harry Hong who has a website of the same name. If you compare his recommendations to that of Hyperbalance, you get a very close match.
BTW - just ran seven miles this weekend, so I think this does not really affect performance as much as the usual treatments.
If I just had a German accent, I think I could make a lot of money with this product.
BTW - just ran seven miles this weekend, so I think this does not really affect performance as much as the usual treatments.
If I just had a German accent, I think I could make a lot of money with this product.
JaniceS
12-20-2002, 01:39 PM
RESPeRATE isn't a supplement or anything you take. It's a device which helps slow you down into "therapeutic" breathing. It's the same principle as meditation and/or biofeedback which I personally do believe that that can work for some types of HBP. Just wondering if anyone has ever tried it. It was approved by the FDA this summer. It's expensive, but if it works its just a one time purchase as opposed to continually paying for prescriptions/supplements.
sunbird_owner
12-23-2002, 03:47 PM
Whitts99 -
Please post as a different topic. I think the answers will be interesting.
Please post as a different topic. I think the answers will be interesting.
JaniceS
01-03-2003, 11:01 AM
How's the progress with trying Hyperbalance? Is it still working for you?
sunbird_owner
01-03-2003, 03:22 PM
OK, as I said, if I had a German Accent I could go on television and make a fortune. Last night I checked and it was 130/81. In general, I am about at 140/85.
Now I have to go get a new doctor. He had given me all sorts of weird stuff.
I can only conclude that at least for me this stuff works.
Now I have to go get a new doctor. He had given me all sorts of weird stuff.
I can only conclude that at least for me this stuff works.
JaniceS
01-03-2003, 04:18 PM
If you've gone from 160/99 to 140/85 that's pretty impressive. Is that with the one tablet/day or two tablets/day as indicated on the bottle? My husband is picking some up for me next Monday at the drs. office, so I'm anxious to try it. I'm a borderline case, so hopefully, this will be enough for me.
sunbird_owner
01-05-2003, 01:38 PM
That is two of the capsules. One at mid-day and one at about 7:00 PM. Also now taking 500mg Calcium, 250mg Magnesium, and 12 mg Zinc.
Life is very good. You know, since they did all the research on Asian levels of cholesterol they might have asked them if they have any medicine for hbp.
Never mind,only venting, I guess I don't mind being my own doctor.
I am also running 7 miles / week, but I had been running 5 miles / week so I don't think this is a major variable.
Life is very good. You know, since they did all the research on Asian levels of cholesterol they might have asked them if they have any medicine for hbp.
Never mind,only venting, I guess I don't mind being my own doctor.
I am also running 7 miles / week, but I had been running 5 miles / week so I don't think this is a major variable.
sunbird_owner
01-14-2003, 01:54 PM
My last three readings are:
133/80, 139/81, 140/81.
I think the Hyperbalance works well.
Jay
133/80, 139/81, 140/81.
I think the Hyperbalance works well.
Jay