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zuzu8
06-03-2003, 01:43 PM
I have heard that certain herbs containing cardiac glycosides, (smooth muscle relaxants) may create excessively low blood pressure in people taking high blood pressure meds.

Is black cohosh (for menopausal symptoms) one of them?

zuzu xx


[This message has been edited by zuzu8 (edited 06-03-2003).]

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Molly McPherson
06-03-2003, 09:21 PM
I have read that when you have high blood pressure you should not take black cohosh or drink green tea.

zuzu8
06-03-2003, 09:52 PM
Hi Molly- Thanks for your reply..... I have too, but don't know where. I'm hoping for some science based info...do you know where you heard about it and from what source?

zuzu xxx

Tamsin
06-04-2003, 02:35 PM
I'd really like to know about the green tea. I was just getting ready to brew a cup this afternoon!

T.

zuzu8
06-04-2003, 03:46 PM
Hi- Seems like black cohosh MAY present some problems when used with antihypertensives.

I used my search engine for "antihypertensives" "black cohosh" (typed exactly like that) and found a huge array of info.
Seems that Black cohosh may oppose OR enhance the effect of antihypertensive medications.

Apparently it has hypotensive properties, so when taken with BP meds, it can lower BP too much. When taken with diuretics apparently it can cause difficulty with diuresis and hypertension may result.

I'm going to talk to my doctors before I touch it!

zuzu xxx

sunbird_owner
06-05-2003, 06:07 PM
zuzu,

This is from my wife:

Black cohost has been found to slightly lower blood
pressure and blood sugar in certain animals. It is
possible it could interact with bp drugs, but there
are no reports of problems. (Consumerlab.com)
If I knew the type of bp meds she is taking I can
search for interactions by the drug type.
I don't know if black cohost contains cardiac
glycosides. All I know is that it is thought to be a
phytoestrogen. Note: blue cohost contains chemicals
that can be toxic to the heart.
Hope this helps. Nancy

zuzu8
06-06-2003, 11:25 PM
....accidental post


[This message has been edited by zuzu8 (edited 06-06-2003).]

zuzu8
06-06-2003, 11:29 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by zuzu8:
[B]
Hey thanks, Jay and Nancy!


I'm on straight DIOVAN (angiotensin2 receptor blocker, no added diuretic...I think Jay knows that, no?) and am wary about taking black cohosh, although, if I do, and monitor my BP carefully, I'll soon know if BP plunges. Will feel it too!

Still, will check with my doctor first. Not rushing yet on this....

Thanks Nancy for your offer to investigate further. If you hear anything regarding the ARBs in particular, let me know.

zuzu xxxx

zuzu8
06-07-2003, 12:10 AM
Boards acting up....double post.

zuzu8
06-07-2003, 12:12 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by zuzu8:
sorry..boards triple posting.

Molly McPherson
06-07-2003, 12:08 PM
My doctor told me that both black cohosh and green tea lower your blood pressure. So if you are already on pressure meds your pressure maybe come to low and that would cause a problem. I believe if you don't have high blood pressure both black cohosh and green tea will help you. I have high blood pressure and I am staying away from them both.

zuzu8
06-07-2003, 04:01 PM
Hi Molly-
Yeah, maybe I will too...My BP is perfect right now on straight Diovan....although the thought just came to me that if black cohosh lowers BP, perhaps by taking it (not that it would lower my BP enough to be able to get completely off BP meds) I might be able to lower my DOSAGE. Instead of 160 mg a day, perhaps BP would be stable and controlled on 80mg.

Same thing goes for your green tea.

I won't fool around yet...but will bring it up with my doc as well next visit...although god forbid he would ever admit that some alternatives to mainstream DRUGS might help at all!!!!

zuzu xxx





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