pud
01-18-2008, 12:45 PM
Although I have suffered from depression and anxiety for many years (I think it was undiagnosed post natal depression left to escalate), I have lived a pretty good and normal life with the help of anti-depressants.
However, when I hit the menopause, the anti-depressants seemed to stop working, I suffered real bad depression and anxiety, but not only that, just felt so very weird and strange and, well, so ILL. Hard to explain. I came off my old anti-depressants, GP tried 3 different ones, didn't help!! Then finally gave in and got hrt. Silly me, doh, thought this will fix all, and promptly gave up all the anti-depressants. Not a very wise thing to do, just like that, after all those years of taking them, just going "cold turkey"!! I think I have probably REALLY upset my brain chemicals.
Well, I felt okay for about 3 months, then bang, all of the really bad depression and anxiety came back big time. I am going to see my GP again, perhaps I need both the anti-depressants and hrt - after all the anti-depressants were working fine until the menopause came along. My friend reckons this is what happened.
I've done quite a lot of research on menopausal symptoms, and through talking with friends, a lot of us are going through the same. I would like to reassure others that, although like I did, they probably think they are going mad (I truly thought I must now be suffering from a very serious mental illness!) they are NOT, and it's these horrible, powerful little chemicals called hormones that are creating havoc in your mind. Try to keep telling yourself that, and that you can't help it, and it should be treated with the respect of any illness by yourself and others.
Anyone else experinced anything like this? :D
However, when I hit the menopause, the anti-depressants seemed to stop working, I suffered real bad depression and anxiety, but not only that, just felt so very weird and strange and, well, so ILL. Hard to explain. I came off my old anti-depressants, GP tried 3 different ones, didn't help!! Then finally gave in and got hrt. Silly me, doh, thought this will fix all, and promptly gave up all the anti-depressants. Not a very wise thing to do, just like that, after all those years of taking them, just going "cold turkey"!! I think I have probably REALLY upset my brain chemicals.
Well, I felt okay for about 3 months, then bang, all of the really bad depression and anxiety came back big time. I am going to see my GP again, perhaps I need both the anti-depressants and hrt - after all the anti-depressants were working fine until the menopause came along. My friend reckons this is what happened.
I've done quite a lot of research on menopausal symptoms, and through talking with friends, a lot of us are going through the same. I would like to reassure others that, although like I did, they probably think they are going mad (I truly thought I must now be suffering from a very serious mental illness!) they are NOT, and it's these horrible, powerful little chemicals called hormones that are creating havoc in your mind. Try to keep telling yourself that, and that you can't help it, and it should be treated with the respect of any illness by yourself and others.
Anyone else experinced anything like this? :D
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wrightmother
01-20-2008, 08:15 PM
Thank you! I came on this board searching for something that appeared similiar to my situation and your post was the first I read. I, too, have had an onset of major depression post partum. I have been on antidepressants since that time (16 years) and have done really well...most of the time. Made some minor adjustments to the meds over the years and then BOOM....perimenopause/menopause hit. (I'm now 51). The antidperessant wasn't keeping my mood swings in check, my anxiety went through the roof and my thinking became confused and fuzzy. About five months ago I started on natural progesterone cream which seemed to help the anxiety quite a bit. I felt better and decided to get off the hormones. Again: BOOM. Depression and anxiety, racing thoughts, fearful thoughts...thinking things I've NEVER thought before.
Saw a local specialist, a nurse practitioner, who presribes bioidentical hormone replacement. I started using 50mgs. of bioidentical progesterone cream and a vaginal estrogen cream (two separate applications). Started feeling much better so I, too, decided to lower my antidepressant (that was just not smart, was it??)...I started feeling anxious again and the nurse recommended I go up on the estrogen cream. I did and I started having bleeding....Then we went down on both the estrogen and progesterone...MORE ANXIETY and depresssion.
I feel like a total mess. SO as of today, I am increasing my antidepressant BACK to the dose I was on, taking a mild tranquilizer as needed (which has been twice today) and using the progesterone and estrogen vaginally. I need balance again, and in a hurry! I am a very faith based person and I have been focused on my prayer and relationship with God as my primary source of support. I need other women to correspond with.....Please reply if you'd like to correspond.
Saw a local specialist, a nurse practitioner, who presribes bioidentical hormone replacement. I started using 50mgs. of bioidentical progesterone cream and a vaginal estrogen cream (two separate applications). Started feeling much better so I, too, decided to lower my antidepressant (that was just not smart, was it??)...I started feeling anxious again and the nurse recommended I go up on the estrogen cream. I did and I started having bleeding....Then we went down on both the estrogen and progesterone...MORE ANXIETY and depresssion.
I feel like a total mess. SO as of today, I am increasing my antidepressant BACK to the dose I was on, taking a mild tranquilizer as needed (which has been twice today) and using the progesterone and estrogen vaginally. I need balance again, and in a hurry! I am a very faith based person and I have been focused on my prayer and relationship with God as my primary source of support. I need other women to correspond with.....Please reply if you'd like to correspond.
Laye
01-20-2008, 10:11 PM
I'm right here with you. I feel lousy. I've always been prone to depression and anxiety..but with these peri symptoms it feels much worse than I ever imagined. I had no idea this time of life would feel so bad. I know some women who hardly have any problems. I must be very sensitive to hormonal changes in my body.
I'm trying to work with my doctor to balance things out. I do NOT want to go on the pill. I fear that will only create more icky side effects. I'm thinking of a topical cream or something. I have no energy but to sit down. It feels like a lot of work to do anything at all. It just feels like a very depressing time of life. Middle age for women is different from men. And I've always been active and I've tried to take care of myself. But this has hit me hard this year. Very, very hard. It's nice to know there is a support system out there. Some of my friends do not seem to be struggling like me.
I'm trying to work with my doctor to balance things out. I do NOT want to go on the pill. I fear that will only create more icky side effects. I'm thinking of a topical cream or something. I have no energy but to sit down. It feels like a lot of work to do anything at all. It just feels like a very depressing time of life. Middle age for women is different from men. And I've always been active and I've tried to take care of myself. But this has hit me hard this year. Very, very hard. It's nice to know there is a support system out there. Some of my friends do not seem to be struggling like me.
pud
01-21-2008, 05:24 AM
You seem to have been just like me throughout life, I also am a Christian and my faith and church and the support I get from Christian friends I have been so grateful for.
I am back on my anti-depressants, seeing doc tomorrow, but know I have to wait quite a while for them to work properly again. Try to keep going, go out as much as possible, hate being alone in the house (or even in the house in company for that matter!!).
Just remember, you are not alone, I am here. Also, all the feeling "strange" is normal. A poor friend of mine has begun to experience this, and I have explained to her that it is all part of the menopause.
Hope this note finds you feeling a bit better. Let me know how you get on.
Thank you! I came on this board searching for something that appeared similiar to my situation and your post was the first I read. I, too, have had an onset of major depression post partum. I have been on antidepressants since that time (16 years) and have done really well...most of the time. Made some minor adjustments to the meds over the years and then BOOM....perimenopause/menopause hit. (I'm now 51). The antidperessant wasn't keeping my mood swings in check, my anxiety went through the roof and my thinking became confused and fuzzy. About five months ago I started on natural progesterone cream which seemed to help the anxiety quite a bit. I felt better and decided to get off the hormones. Again: BOOM. Depression and anxiety, racing thoughts, fearful thoughts...thinking things I've NEVER thought before.
Saw a local specialist, a nurse practitioner, who presribes bioidentical hormone replacement. I started using 50mgs. of bioidentical progesterone cream and a vaginal estrogen cream (two separate applications). Started feeling much better so I, too, decided to lower my antidepressant (that was just not smart, was it??)...I started feeling anxious again and the nurse recommended I go up on the estrogen cream. I did and I started having bleeding....Then we went down on both the estrogen and progesterone...MORE ANXIETY and depresssion.
I feel like a total mess. SO as of today, I am increasing my antidepressant BACK to the dose I was on, taking a mild tranquilizer as needed (which has been twice today) and using the progesterone and estrogen vaginally. I need balance again, and in a hurry! I am a very faith based person and I have been focused on my prayer and relationship with God as my primary source of support. I need other women to correspond with.....Please reply if you'd like to correspond.
I am back on my anti-depressants, seeing doc tomorrow, but know I have to wait quite a while for them to work properly again. Try to keep going, go out as much as possible, hate being alone in the house (or even in the house in company for that matter!!).
Just remember, you are not alone, I am here. Also, all the feeling "strange" is normal. A poor friend of mine has begun to experience this, and I have explained to her that it is all part of the menopause.
Hope this note finds you feeling a bit better. Let me know how you get on.
Thank you! I came on this board searching for something that appeared similiar to my situation and your post was the first I read. I, too, have had an onset of major depression post partum. I have been on antidepressants since that time (16 years) and have done really well...most of the time. Made some minor adjustments to the meds over the years and then BOOM....perimenopause/menopause hit. (I'm now 51). The antidperessant wasn't keeping my mood swings in check, my anxiety went through the roof and my thinking became confused and fuzzy. About five months ago I started on natural progesterone cream which seemed to help the anxiety quite a bit. I felt better and decided to get off the hormones. Again: BOOM. Depression and anxiety, racing thoughts, fearful thoughts...thinking things I've NEVER thought before.
Saw a local specialist, a nurse practitioner, who presribes bioidentical hormone replacement. I started using 50mgs. of bioidentical progesterone cream and a vaginal estrogen cream (two separate applications). Started feeling much better so I, too, decided to lower my antidepressant (that was just not smart, was it??)...I started feeling anxious again and the nurse recommended I go up on the estrogen cream. I did and I started having bleeding....Then we went down on both the estrogen and progesterone...MORE ANXIETY and depresssion.
I feel like a total mess. SO as of today, I am increasing my antidepressant BACK to the dose I was on, taking a mild tranquilizer as needed (which has been twice today) and using the progesterone and estrogen vaginally. I need balance again, and in a hurry! I am a very faith based person and I have been focused on my prayer and relationship with God as my primary source of support. I need other women to correspond with.....Please reply if you'd like to correspond.
pud
01-21-2008, 05:28 AM
Yes, you're right, I think some of us are particularly sensitive to hormonal changes. Even though I have had problems with anxiety and depression in the past, this is VERY different, just feel so strange. One night I lay in bed and thought "I am going mad, I am going mad" - but of course, this is all part of the menopause. So many other women have said the same thing, but then of course there are the lucky ones who never experience any problems!!
All we can do is keep going. Let me know how you get on. It's good to know we're not alone out there!!
I'm right here with you. I feel lousy. I've always been prone to depression and anxiety..but with these peri symptoms it feels much worse than I ever imagined. I had no idea this time of life would feel so bad. I know some women who hardly have any problems. I must be very sensitive to hormonal changes in my body.
I'm trying to work with my doctor to balance things out. I do NOT want to go on the pill. I fear that will only create more icky side effects. I'm thinking of a topical cream or something. I have no energy but to sit down. It feels like a lot of work to do anything at all. It just feels like a very depressing time of life. Middle age for women is different from men. And I've always been active and I've tried to take care of myself. But this has hit me hard this year. Very, very hard. It's nice to know there is a support system out there. Some of my friends do not seem to be struggling like me.
All we can do is keep going. Let me know how you get on. It's good to know we're not alone out there!!
I'm right here with you. I feel lousy. I've always been prone to depression and anxiety..but with these peri symptoms it feels much worse than I ever imagined. I had no idea this time of life would feel so bad. I know some women who hardly have any problems. I must be very sensitive to hormonal changes in my body.
I'm trying to work with my doctor to balance things out. I do NOT want to go on the pill. I fear that will only create more icky side effects. I'm thinking of a topical cream or something. I have no energy but to sit down. It feels like a lot of work to do anything at all. It just feels like a very depressing time of life. Middle age for women is different from men. And I've always been active and I've tried to take care of myself. But this has hit me hard this year. Very, very hard. It's nice to know there is a support system out there. Some of my friends do not seem to be struggling like me.
muddie555
01-21-2008, 05:31 AM
This has made me feel a bit more normal knowing that feeling ILL at this time is not uncommon.
I am 44, just having a hell of a time with night sweats and anxiety, complete loss of confidence. I used to have panic attacks but sorted those out with a few sessions of Clinical Hypnotherapy which helped me regain control.
Usually I refuse point blank to swallow tablets but am on HRT as I had surgery 9 years ago for ovarian cysts and only have my uterus and a small amount of one ovary left. The other thing I had to consider in deciding about HRT is that I also have Multiple Sclerosis, so risking loss of bone density is not a good idea!
I think the HRT is helping with some of the problems but I think experimenting with dosage and type is often necessary to get it right for each individual. I've been on it one month so far and am off back to the doctor on Wednesday so if I learn anything interesting I'll report back here.
I am 44, just having a hell of a time with night sweats and anxiety, complete loss of confidence. I used to have panic attacks but sorted those out with a few sessions of Clinical Hypnotherapy which helped me regain control.
Usually I refuse point blank to swallow tablets but am on HRT as I had surgery 9 years ago for ovarian cysts and only have my uterus and a small amount of one ovary left. The other thing I had to consider in deciding about HRT is that I also have Multiple Sclerosis, so risking loss of bone density is not a good idea!
I think the HRT is helping with some of the problems but I think experimenting with dosage and type is often necessary to get it right for each individual. I've been on it one month so far and am off back to the doctor on Wednesday so if I learn anything interesting I'll report back here.
pud
01-21-2008, 10:20 AM
Hi, glad to hear you got your panic under control with Clinical Hypnotherapy. I have considered this, but not sure if this will help re: hormones (also expense!!). I just keep going and facing up to everything, anxiety and panic raging. Told that this is the way to overcome it eventually, but not easy.
I know I have a chemical upset in my brain too, hormone related at the moment I think, so that doesn't help.
Let me know how you get on at the doc's. I too am going tomorrow to see what can be done. Someone suggested an HRT vaginal cream, which apparently is helpful. Maybe you could have that too with your MS?? Let's see what our docs say!
This has made me feel a bit more normal knowing that feeling ILL at this time is not uncommon.
I am 44, just having a hell of a time with night sweats and anxiety, complete loss of confidence. I used to have panic attacks but sorted those out with a few sessions of Clinical Hypnotherapy which helped me regain control.
Usually I refuse point blank to swallow tablets but am on HRT as I had surgery 9 years ago for ovarian cysts and only have my uterus and a small amount of one ovary left. The other thing I had to consider in deciding about HRT is that I also have Multiple Sclerosis, so risking loss of bone density is not a good idea!
I think the HRT is helping with some of the problems but I think experimenting with dosage and type is often necessary to get it right for each individual. I've been on it one month so far and am off back to the doctor on Wednesday so if I learn anything interesting I'll report back here.
I know I have a chemical upset in my brain too, hormone related at the moment I think, so that doesn't help.
Let me know how you get on at the doc's. I too am going tomorrow to see what can be done. Someone suggested an HRT vaginal cream, which apparently is helpful. Maybe you could have that too with your MS?? Let's see what our docs say!
This has made me feel a bit more normal knowing that feeling ILL at this time is not uncommon.
I am 44, just having a hell of a time with night sweats and anxiety, complete loss of confidence. I used to have panic attacks but sorted those out with a few sessions of Clinical Hypnotherapy which helped me regain control.
Usually I refuse point blank to swallow tablets but am on HRT as I had surgery 9 years ago for ovarian cysts and only have my uterus and a small amount of one ovary left. The other thing I had to consider in deciding about HRT is that I also have Multiple Sclerosis, so risking loss of bone density is not a good idea!
I think the HRT is helping with some of the problems but I think experimenting with dosage and type is often necessary to get it right for each individual. I've been on it one month so far and am off back to the doctor on Wednesday so if I learn anything interesting I'll report back here.
pud
01-25-2008, 09:42 AM
Hi, I'm wondering how muddie555, wrightmother and laye are getting on, after they replied to my post.
I wonder if they also have the symptoms sometimes of feeling like they are "not in the real world" that everyone else is in. So hard to describe, like you are somewhere else in your head and feel like you are going mad. I mean I go out, go to work, talk to people, but all the time I just feel really strange.
Anyone else had this?
Pud
xxx
I wonder if they also have the symptoms sometimes of feeling like they are "not in the real world" that everyone else is in. So hard to describe, like you are somewhere else in your head and feel like you are going mad. I mean I go out, go to work, talk to people, but all the time I just feel really strange.
Anyone else had this?
Pud
xxx
jansonlygirl
01-25-2008, 09:26 PM
Hi all
Yes, I am right in it with you, I was just telling my husband again..how I don't feel like myself anymore, totally dis-connected and alone, even when everyone is here!
All I want to do is sit and worry constantly that I am going crazy, or that i must be really sick with something, that is why I feel this way, like I must be missing something and it is slowly eating away at me!
Feeling scared of everyday life seems to be the norm for me over the past few months, I go out with my daughter and shop every few days, but not without it being a major anxiety session.
I really try to tell myself that I am ok and try to remember what these messed up hormones can do to a woman, but it is hard to think clearly.
I am missing the old "me" I hope she comes back soon, new and improved and full of the life and energy she used to have..
Take care all,
Jen
Yes, I am right in it with you, I was just telling my husband again..how I don't feel like myself anymore, totally dis-connected and alone, even when everyone is here!
All I want to do is sit and worry constantly that I am going crazy, or that i must be really sick with something, that is why I feel this way, like I must be missing something and it is slowly eating away at me!
Feeling scared of everyday life seems to be the norm for me over the past few months, I go out with my daughter and shop every few days, but not without it being a major anxiety session.
I really try to tell myself that I am ok and try to remember what these messed up hormones can do to a woman, but it is hard to think clearly.
I am missing the old "me" I hope she comes back soon, new and improved and full of the life and energy she used to have..
Take care all,
Jen
Laye
01-26-2008, 12:42 AM
I feel the same way! I am always feeling gloomy about life. I worry that I have some disease all the time. I worry about things I have no control over which is wrong. I have no energy anymore. I hate cleaning my house but I know I must. It never bothered me before..but now it does. I just feel so down and unwell most of the time. When I walk my bladder has spasms. It's just been a nightmare. And it really kicked in for me last June or so. That's when I truly started to notice this change. I've always been told I look much younger than my actual age (45) and I think that is making me depressed. I can't believe I'm 45. Going to be 46 this year. I just feel like my life is over and things are only going to get worse..not better. And yes, I do feel quite alone because of it.
kazy68
01-26-2008, 02:53 PM
Hi all,same here,i want to be the woman i was 3 years ago,out going,fun,game for a laugh and loving towards my family and especially my hubby,and i know i have done this to myself(well my body has),i find it so hard to snap out of the slum that i find myself falling into,i worry about everything,even down to having run out of sugar,what if the shops are shut,what if they have none left,i really need to get a life lol,then i sit there and think chrikey! woman it is only sugar you dont have it anyway! i want to be me again.
No headaches,no shakes,no hot flushes(wich i dont have often,and they are very mild),no cramps,no dizzyness,and no fuzzy head,im not asking for a lot am i,but like everyone else even asking does not get back what we want so we keep plodding on regardless,trying to get on with our lives and do everyday tasks,and until this board came along deal with it all by ourselves.
I am so thankfull to the girls on here who share there everyday experiencies and help others get through the rough days,so until next time,keep going, keep doing the everyday things and especialy KEEP POSTING.;)
kazy
x
forgive me today..........tomorrow i may no longer feel guilty ;)
No headaches,no shakes,no hot flushes(wich i dont have often,and they are very mild),no cramps,no dizzyness,and no fuzzy head,im not asking for a lot am i,but like everyone else even asking does not get back what we want so we keep plodding on regardless,trying to get on with our lives and do everyday tasks,and until this board came along deal with it all by ourselves.
I am so thankfull to the girls on here who share there everyday experiencies and help others get through the rough days,so until next time,keep going, keep doing the everyday things and especialy KEEP POSTING.;)
kazy
x
forgive me today..........tomorrow i may no longer feel guilty ;)
T1988
01-26-2008, 07:33 PM
hello all!!!
I can relate with all of you!!! I so hope that I will find a way to survive this time in my life. I am taking a total female vitamin and multi-vitamin. I will start on a natural compound progesterone cream in a few weeks. I am praying continually that it will start getting better. I do notice that things are somewhat better since I started taking the vitamins and eating extremely healthy. I am 37 years old and I always knew that my hormones were messed up, but I thought it was just the way it had to be... when the perimenopause symptoms hit I was not prepared at all!!! I am so thankful for finding this message board and for all who share their stories!!! I don't feel so alone anymore...
Many Blessings to you all!
T1988
I can relate with all of you!!! I so hope that I will find a way to survive this time in my life. I am taking a total female vitamin and multi-vitamin. I will start on a natural compound progesterone cream in a few weeks. I am praying continually that it will start getting better. I do notice that things are somewhat better since I started taking the vitamins and eating extremely healthy. I am 37 years old and I always knew that my hormones were messed up, but I thought it was just the way it had to be... when the perimenopause symptoms hit I was not prepared at all!!! I am so thankful for finding this message board and for all who share their stories!!! I don't feel so alone anymore...
Many Blessings to you all!
T1988
pammcat
01-26-2008, 08:54 PM
Dear Jansonlygirl, Hello....i Too Have Experienced The Feeling Of Constant Fear, Dissasociation And Constant Gloom....if You Look Back To Some Older Posts On This Board You Will Find Not Only My Symptoms But Many Other Womens Also...you Will Feel Relieved To Know Sooooo Many Of Us Had To Struggle, You Will Not Loose Your Mind...i Found Distracting Myself As Often As Possible Helped...for Ex: I Would Get Internal Shaking That Really Scared Me...sooooo Many Other Women Also Experience This...i Would Go For A Drive Any Play My Radio..this Would Distract Me For A While...please Take A Complete Womans Vit...drink Soy....taking Vitamins (after Apx 2 Weeks) Made All Of My Symptoms Diminish...i Hardly Experience Anything...the Anxiety And Doom Can Be Overwhelming....this Is For All...please Get On A Vitamin Regiment...really Helps And Calms You Also...i Also Take A Borage/flax/fish Oil Blend Daily.....things Do Get Better Stay Calm You Are Not Loosing Your Mind Remember To Keep Telling Yourself That...please Read Some Of Our Older Posts.....a Godsend For Me.....pammcat
jansonlygirl
01-27-2008, 04:05 AM
Pam,
Thank you so much for your kind words, of course I cried reading them, but what's new!! I have ordered a fish flax and borage supplement and also another womens multiple vitamin for menopause. All I can do is go one day at a time with this, and I look forward to seeing the posts, knowing I am not really alone:)
I had a good day today, very productive but I know it is because my period is very close, I get "nesty", cleaning like a mad fool! So I know I have to look forward to at least 10 days of bleeding and cramps, usually 5 very heavy days and the rest kind of linger...argghhh
I have to be careful what I eat, although I feel like I have not had a meal in weeks!! I had Chinese today and my fingers are huge!
Tomorrow I will make the effort to watch what I eat and maybe take a walk?? lol
Take care and keep the posts coming!
Jen
Thank you so much for your kind words, of course I cried reading them, but what's new!! I have ordered a fish flax and borage supplement and also another womens multiple vitamin for menopause. All I can do is go one day at a time with this, and I look forward to seeing the posts, knowing I am not really alone:)
I had a good day today, very productive but I know it is because my period is very close, I get "nesty", cleaning like a mad fool! So I know I have to look forward to at least 10 days of bleeding and cramps, usually 5 very heavy days and the rest kind of linger...argghhh
I have to be careful what I eat, although I feel like I have not had a meal in weeks!! I had Chinese today and my fingers are huge!
Tomorrow I will make the effort to watch what I eat and maybe take a walk?? lol
Take care and keep the posts coming!
Jen
pud
01-27-2008, 11:03 AM
Hi All,
and THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH!! Without this board, I really don't know what I would have done. Now I know all my symptoms are "normal" in the menopause and it's not just me going crazy!! I said to my husband this morning that I was going to go to the doc's to ask for a blood test as I felt so ILL (both physically and mentally!) that I swear I must have leukamia or something equally bad. But I doubt it, afraid not girls, it's just the dreaded hormones. My husband is understanding, but no-one except a fellow sufferer could REALLY understand. I feel panicky about going to work/not going to work/being in the house/not being in the house/seeing friends/not seeing friends/going to my social groups/not going to my social groups!!!!!!!! Think I'm just gonna have to ACCEPT I will be like this for quite a while, and that, let's face it NOTHING in my life is going to suit at present! :confused:
I'm on anti-depressants and hrt now, so hoping that in time they will do SOMETHING to help relieve this difficult time. I have 2 daughters, aged 20 and 22, both at university, but finishing this year. Of course I have always missed them since they've been away, but since the menopause hit, I could cry my eyes out at missing my "babies" every day. Oh dear, what a mess of a person I am at the moment!
Hang on in there guys - we will all keep in touch as it is so comforting to know that we are not alone in this suffering. If at all possible, try to keep your sense of humour (not easy I know, but my husband is a bit of a nutter and so am I - in the nicest possible way - and laughter can help ease some of the tension).
Think I will try the vitamin supplements, will check with my doc first in case it interferes with my current medication (as we are always advised). But what a boost, knowing there are so many others out there feeling as I am and I'm not alone in this!
Take care all of you guys and keep in touch.
Pam (aka Pud - from my uncle who used to call me "Pamela Pud" when I was little!!) xxxxxx
and THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH!! Without this board, I really don't know what I would have done. Now I know all my symptoms are "normal" in the menopause and it's not just me going crazy!! I said to my husband this morning that I was going to go to the doc's to ask for a blood test as I felt so ILL (both physically and mentally!) that I swear I must have leukamia or something equally bad. But I doubt it, afraid not girls, it's just the dreaded hormones. My husband is understanding, but no-one except a fellow sufferer could REALLY understand. I feel panicky about going to work/not going to work/being in the house/not being in the house/seeing friends/not seeing friends/going to my social groups/not going to my social groups!!!!!!!! Think I'm just gonna have to ACCEPT I will be like this for quite a while, and that, let's face it NOTHING in my life is going to suit at present! :confused:
I'm on anti-depressants and hrt now, so hoping that in time they will do SOMETHING to help relieve this difficult time. I have 2 daughters, aged 20 and 22, both at university, but finishing this year. Of course I have always missed them since they've been away, but since the menopause hit, I could cry my eyes out at missing my "babies" every day. Oh dear, what a mess of a person I am at the moment!
Hang on in there guys - we will all keep in touch as it is so comforting to know that we are not alone in this suffering. If at all possible, try to keep your sense of humour (not easy I know, but my husband is a bit of a nutter and so am I - in the nicest possible way - and laughter can help ease some of the tension).
Think I will try the vitamin supplements, will check with my doc first in case it interferes with my current medication (as we are always advised). But what a boost, knowing there are so many others out there feeling as I am and I'm not alone in this!
Take care all of you guys and keep in touch.
Pam (aka Pud - from my uncle who used to call me "Pamela Pud" when I was little!!) xxxxxx
T1988
01-27-2008, 03:14 PM
hello!
I was wondering if any of you have nausea in relation to your anxiety and other peri symptoms? I wake up each and every morning feeling quite anxious and nauseated. It varies in severity, pending on the time of the month. Just wanted to know if anyone else felt this way!
You all are such a blessing!
Thanks
T1988
I was wondering if any of you have nausea in relation to your anxiety and other peri symptoms? I wake up each and every morning feeling quite anxious and nauseated. It varies in severity, pending on the time of the month. Just wanted to know if anyone else felt this way!
You all are such a blessing!
Thanks
T1988
kazy68
01-27-2008, 08:53 PM
hi all,i sometimes have sickness in the morning i am never sick but always feel very queasy,couldent eat or i would really be sick:nono:,and i dont think any of us would like it.
After i posted last night i had the absoulute worst head ache or migraine of my life,so much so i got a cool and soothe out of the box put it on my head and went to sleep and didnt wake up until 10.45 thismorning(sunday),my head has not been so bad today but not quite right,it has felt like it is burning on the right side by my eye and round by my ear,i have took is easy today as i know that if i had done to much it would have come back with a vengence and my god i dont want it back,i normaly get them when i am due a period but this one has arrived at the end:confused:,arent our bodies strange,i am hoping i feel better tomorrow going house hunting with my daughter :( ,i dont want her to go she is so much help to me i dont know what i would do without her,even if it is for our little chats we have every day,better get some sleep so i am up bright and early night all,
keep well,
kazy
x
forgive me today........tomorrow i may no longer feel guilty
After i posted last night i had the absoulute worst head ache or migraine of my life,so much so i got a cool and soothe out of the box put it on my head and went to sleep and didnt wake up until 10.45 thismorning(sunday),my head has not been so bad today but not quite right,it has felt like it is burning on the right side by my eye and round by my ear,i have took is easy today as i know that if i had done to much it would have come back with a vengence and my god i dont want it back,i normaly get them when i am due a period but this one has arrived at the end:confused:,arent our bodies strange,i am hoping i feel better tomorrow going house hunting with my daughter :( ,i dont want her to go she is so much help to me i dont know what i would do without her,even if it is for our little chats we have every day,better get some sleep so i am up bright and early night all,
keep well,
kazy
x
forgive me today........tomorrow i may no longer feel guilty
Laye
01-27-2008, 11:35 PM
This thread has been getting quite the workout. I am happy to have all of you to share these thoughts with. I feel like I do nothing but complain to the people around me. They don't want to hear it..truly. I find that when I try and move my body..do some kind of exercise..especially stretching..I feel a lot better. But it only lasts so long and I'm right back to being tense and moody. And I always feel fat. Even when I hardly eat a thing. That bugs me the most.
I know this is something we have to ride out..but seriously. I never knew it would feel this bad. I feel like I have twenty pound weights attached to my legs as I walk. I just feel like a load of crankiness and sleepiness and soreness all the time.
I think the key is getting the proper nutrition but that is hard because I constantly crave sweets. And too much sugar is the worst thing you can do to your body....it's such a balancing act..this stage of life.
I know this is something we have to ride out..but seriously. I never knew it would feel this bad. I feel like I have twenty pound weights attached to my legs as I walk. I just feel like a load of crankiness and sleepiness and soreness all the time.
I think the key is getting the proper nutrition but that is hard because I constantly crave sweets. And too much sugar is the worst thing you can do to your body....it's such a balancing act..this stage of life.
T1988
01-28-2008, 09:46 AM
I think mornings are the hardest time of the day for me. I usually wake up to nausea and feeling quite sick. I know that I have to eat for strength, but it is the last thing I want to do. But I do it anyway. I had discussed going off some anti-anxiety meds that were prescribed about a month ago, when they didn't know what was going on with me. I only take one a day, a very low dose, and it does help some. I just hate taking them. My doctor has said that I must take them and not to worry so much about them. She has reassured me that we will wing off of them as soon as it is possible. I want to believe that I can get my hormones balanced again... sometimes I just lose hope.... I relate with the woman who said she seems to complain or talk about it all the time... I hate being that way....it just seems to be so BIG right now. I really just want my life back... I have cried enough tears for a lifetime I believe.... Thanks for listening and thanks for responding.
Another question? Do you all feel your symptoms all throughout the month.... having a good day here and there... but not really having a consistant pattern? I'm just so tired!!!
Thanks!!
T1988:confused:
Another question? Do you all feel your symptoms all throughout the month.... having a good day here and there... but not really having a consistant pattern? I'm just so tired!!!
Thanks!!
T1988:confused:
Lynnv57
01-28-2008, 10:40 AM
Good Morning Ladies.
I have not posted in a while. Been trying to not read alot about the symptoms because I think it only makes them worse, at least for me. I did go to my Gyn and she said the symptoms I have tell her I am in Peri.
I actually have been doing quite well these days. f eeling pretty good. Not worrying about the symptoms. Anxiety is non existent thank goodness. I keep telling myself that this is me, I am here, everything around me is real. Yes..I sometimes think it isn't but I try to keep my mind focused on the present. I do not have night sweats not Hot Flashes YET. I am not depressed and I can actually feel good about things lately. Sitting watching tv is not a problem nor going to sleep at night as it was in the past month for me.
<A psychiatrist I know> told me I could actually be reading into the symptoms therefore making them worse then they are. He is the one who told me the anxiety and depression were the cause of my hormones. I trust him totally.
I am taking a Womes Multi Vitamin that has herbs in it also(Black Cohash, Ginko, etc and I do believe that it does me good. Will look into Omega 3 and Flax possibly.
All the symtoms Pud says she has, I have been there for days on end to the tee. It could possibly that I am having good days and will see those symptoms again.
I am able to go to work with no problem. I do like to keep busy and get out as much as possible which also helps.
Wonder what the womrn did in the western days with these symptoms.! Probably were told they were insane! So..I will take it one day at a time and hopefully my cycle is done for good. Who knows.
Lynn
I have not posted in a while. Been trying to not read alot about the symptoms because I think it only makes them worse, at least for me. I did go to my Gyn and she said the symptoms I have tell her I am in Peri.
I actually have been doing quite well these days. f eeling pretty good. Not worrying about the symptoms. Anxiety is non existent thank goodness. I keep telling myself that this is me, I am here, everything around me is real. Yes..I sometimes think it isn't but I try to keep my mind focused on the present. I do not have night sweats not Hot Flashes YET. I am not depressed and I can actually feel good about things lately. Sitting watching tv is not a problem nor going to sleep at night as it was in the past month for me.
<A psychiatrist I know> told me I could actually be reading into the symptoms therefore making them worse then they are. He is the one who told me the anxiety and depression were the cause of my hormones. I trust him totally.
I am taking a Womes Multi Vitamin that has herbs in it also(Black Cohash, Ginko, etc and I do believe that it does me good. Will look into Omega 3 and Flax possibly.
All the symtoms Pud says she has, I have been there for days on end to the tee. It could possibly that I am having good days and will see those symptoms again.
I am able to go to work with no problem. I do like to keep busy and get out as much as possible which also helps.
Wonder what the womrn did in the western days with these symptoms.! Probably were told they were insane! So..I will take it one day at a time and hopefully my cycle is done for good. Who knows.
Lynn
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pud
01-28-2008, 02:19 PM
Hi Lynnv, thanks for your reply. However, you say you are in PERI, and I think, unfortunately, that this IS different from full blown menopause. I was a lot like you when my periods first began to tail off (every 4 months or so). I only suffered from bouts of all the weird symptoms, then they would go again. However, once my periods stopped completely (18 months ago), THAT'S when I went into the symptoms being continuous.
Also, I don't think lots of ladies do read up on symptoms and then imagine they've got them - I was very surprised when I went to my doc and he told me that depression and anxiety are some of the most common symptoms in the menopause!
I wish you well, and hope you don't get any worse (wouldn't wish this on my worse enemy!) but unfortunately, I don't think these symptoms are all in the mind and, sadly, not every psychiatrists fully understand what's going on in the mind (look at all the people they've let out of prison saying they are better and no danger to anyone, only for them to go and commit some awful crime!!). You also have to remember that lots of people find it very comforting to know that it's not just them who are going through this, and possibly only a rare few would then imagine they had the symptoms. As you say, lots of people reply saying, "oh, I don't have that, but I do have this, etc", so most sensible people would take this attitude. For example, I personally don't have night sweats, so wouldn't imagine or say I had!
The mind is a very strange thing, and obviously is easily upset by fluctuating hormones. I read somewhere that a part of the brain needs a huge amount of estrogen just to function normally - so that speaks volumes, doesn't it!!??
Best wishes.
Pud
Good Morning Ladies.
I have not posted in a while. Been trying to not read alot about the symptoms because I think it only makes them worse, at least for me. I did go to my Gyn and she said the symptoms I have tell her I am in Peri.
I actually have been doing quite well these days. f eeling pretty good. Not worrying about the symptoms. Anxiety is non existent thank goodness. I keep telling myself that this is me, I am here, everything around me is real. Yes..I sometimes think it isn't but I try to keep my mind focused on the present. I do not have night sweats not Hot Flashes YET. I am not depressed and I can actually feel good about things lately. Sitting watching tv is not a problem nor going to sleep at night as it was in the past month for me.
<A psychiatrist I know> told me I could actually be reading into the symptoms therefore making them worse then they are. He is the one who told me the anxiety and depression were the cause of my hormones. I trust him totally.
I am taking a Womes Multi Vitamin that has herbs in it also(Black Cohash, Ginko, etc and I do believe that it does me good. Will look into Omega 3 and Flax possibly.
All the symtoms Pud says she has, I have been there for days on end to the tee. It could possibly that I am having good days and will see those symptoms again.
I am able to go to work with no problem. I do like to keep busy and get out as much as possible which also helps.
Wonder what the womrn did in the western days with these symptoms.! Probably were told they were insane! So..I will take it one day at a time and hopefully my cycle is done for good. Who knows.
Lynn
Also, I don't think lots of ladies do read up on symptoms and then imagine they've got them - I was very surprised when I went to my doc and he told me that depression and anxiety are some of the most common symptoms in the menopause!
I wish you well, and hope you don't get any worse (wouldn't wish this on my worse enemy!) but unfortunately, I don't think these symptoms are all in the mind and, sadly, not every psychiatrists fully understand what's going on in the mind (look at all the people they've let out of prison saying they are better and no danger to anyone, only for them to go and commit some awful crime!!). You also have to remember that lots of people find it very comforting to know that it's not just them who are going through this, and possibly only a rare few would then imagine they had the symptoms. As you say, lots of people reply saying, "oh, I don't have that, but I do have this, etc", so most sensible people would take this attitude. For example, I personally don't have night sweats, so wouldn't imagine or say I had!
The mind is a very strange thing, and obviously is easily upset by fluctuating hormones. I read somewhere that a part of the brain needs a huge amount of estrogen just to function normally - so that speaks volumes, doesn't it!!??
Best wishes.
Pud
Good Morning Ladies.
I have not posted in a while. Been trying to not read alot about the symptoms because I think it only makes them worse, at least for me. I did go to my Gyn and she said the symptoms I have tell her I am in Peri.
I actually have been doing quite well these days. f eeling pretty good. Not worrying about the symptoms. Anxiety is non existent thank goodness. I keep telling myself that this is me, I am here, everything around me is real. Yes..I sometimes think it isn't but I try to keep my mind focused on the present. I do not have night sweats not Hot Flashes YET. I am not depressed and I can actually feel good about things lately. Sitting watching tv is not a problem nor going to sleep at night as it was in the past month for me.
<A psychiatrist I know> told me I could actually be reading into the symptoms therefore making them worse then they are. He is the one who told me the anxiety and depression were the cause of my hormones. I trust him totally.
I am taking a Womes Multi Vitamin that has herbs in it also(Black Cohash, Ginko, etc and I do believe that it does me good. Will look into Omega 3 and Flax possibly.
All the symtoms Pud says she has, I have been there for days on end to the tee. It could possibly that I am having good days and will see those symptoms again.
I am able to go to work with no problem. I do like to keep busy and get out as much as possible which also helps.
Wonder what the womrn did in the western days with these symptoms.! Probably were told they were insane! So..I will take it one day at a time and hopefully my cycle is done for good. Who knows.
Lynn
pud
01-28-2008, 02:41 PM
Hi All, just a quick post to let you know I've mostly had a good day today, even tho' it started with me feeling quite panicky - never too good in the house alone mornings or evenings! Then I went to my social group, good friends, felt quite anxious there but "went with it", then we all went to lunch, had a good laugh, then one or two of us went to the pub and (naughty me!) I had a glass of wine (small one!) at 2.00 pm. I then intended to go see my mum and dad as it is dad's birthday today.
However, got a call on my mobile from mum to say she and dad were outside the pub, on their way to the doc's to get dad's leg dressed. They had bumped into a lady I know who had told them "your Pam is in the pub and she has had TWO wines!" (Made it sound like I was sitting in there from 11.00am drinking!!) Of course they knew different, but it did give us a good laugh.
Hey girls, I may feel real bad, and it may be very tempting to drink when we feel like this (though we are always told that alcohol is a depressant and will only make things worse), but thought I'd share this little tale with you!
Don't know what tomorrow will be like for me, or any of us, but just keep going guys. I agree it helps when we're out and about in the "real" world rather than alone with our thoughts and feelings.
Pam xxx
P.S. Told my husband last night I was feeling lousy (as so many have commented, you feel you want to complain about it all the time to people, but they are not interested, so you don't). However, he sat next to me on the sofa and put his arm around me and cuddled me for a couple of hours. Comforting. Aaaaaahh! X
However, got a call on my mobile from mum to say she and dad were outside the pub, on their way to the doc's to get dad's leg dressed. They had bumped into a lady I know who had told them "your Pam is in the pub and she has had TWO wines!" (Made it sound like I was sitting in there from 11.00am drinking!!) Of course they knew different, but it did give us a good laugh.
Hey girls, I may feel real bad, and it may be very tempting to drink when we feel like this (though we are always told that alcohol is a depressant and will only make things worse), but thought I'd share this little tale with you!
Don't know what tomorrow will be like for me, or any of us, but just keep going guys. I agree it helps when we're out and about in the "real" world rather than alone with our thoughts and feelings.
Pam xxx
P.S. Told my husband last night I was feeling lousy (as so many have commented, you feel you want to complain about it all the time to people, but they are not interested, so you don't). However, he sat next to me on the sofa and put his arm around me and cuddled me for a couple of hours. Comforting. Aaaaaahh! X
pud
01-28-2008, 02:53 PM
Hi T1988,
I think the symptoms are, unfortunately, continuous throughout the month with this business. And, yes, we do want to talk about it all the time because we are so fearful of the way we feel and need some comfort, especially that we're not the only ones and going mad!
I wouldn't worry about your anxiety medication, especially if it is helping. Your doc is right. You may be able to strike a balance with hormone treatment, though I know this can be difficult. For me my doc thinks I need a combination of anti-depressants (which help both depression and anxiety) as well as hrt. I don't really care what I take as long as it makes me feel better!! As I once said to a friend, I would rather risk a shorter, happier life with the meds than a long and miserable one without!! (If that were the case, but who knows anyway?)
I sometimes feel nauseous too, this could be the hormones "playing tricks" again, I really don't know, but it does seem to affect some of us this way.
Let us know how you're getting on.
Pud
I think mornings are the hardest time of the day for me. I usually wake up to nausea and feeling quite sick. I know that I have to eat for strength, but it is the last thing I want to do. But I do it anyway. I had discussed going off some anti-anxiety meds that were prescribed about a month ago, when they didn't know what was going on with me. I only take one a day, a very low dose, and it does help some. I just hate taking them. My doctor has said that I must take them and not to worry so much about them. She has reassured me that we will wing off of them as soon as it is possible. I want to believe that I can get my hormones balanced again... sometimes I just lose hope.... I relate with the woman who said she seems to complain or talk about it all the time... I hate being that way....it just seems to be so BIG right now. I really just want my life back... I have cried enough tears for a lifetime I believe.... Thanks for listening and thanks for responding.
Another question? Do you all feel your symptoms all throughout the month.... having a good day here and there... but not really having a consistant pattern? I'm just so tired!!!
Thanks!!
T1988:confused:
I think the symptoms are, unfortunately, continuous throughout the month with this business. And, yes, we do want to talk about it all the time because we are so fearful of the way we feel and need some comfort, especially that we're not the only ones and going mad!
I wouldn't worry about your anxiety medication, especially if it is helping. Your doc is right. You may be able to strike a balance with hormone treatment, though I know this can be difficult. For me my doc thinks I need a combination of anti-depressants (which help both depression and anxiety) as well as hrt. I don't really care what I take as long as it makes me feel better!! As I once said to a friend, I would rather risk a shorter, happier life with the meds than a long and miserable one without!! (If that were the case, but who knows anyway?)
I sometimes feel nauseous too, this could be the hormones "playing tricks" again, I really don't know, but it does seem to affect some of us this way.
Let us know how you're getting on.
Pud
I think mornings are the hardest time of the day for me. I usually wake up to nausea and feeling quite sick. I know that I have to eat for strength, but it is the last thing I want to do. But I do it anyway. I had discussed going off some anti-anxiety meds that were prescribed about a month ago, when they didn't know what was going on with me. I only take one a day, a very low dose, and it does help some. I just hate taking them. My doctor has said that I must take them and not to worry so much about them. She has reassured me that we will wing off of them as soon as it is possible. I want to believe that I can get my hormones balanced again... sometimes I just lose hope.... I relate with the woman who said she seems to complain or talk about it all the time... I hate being that way....it just seems to be so BIG right now. I really just want my life back... I have cried enough tears for a lifetime I believe.... Thanks for listening and thanks for responding.
Another question? Do you all feel your symptoms all throughout the month.... having a good day here and there... but not really having a consistant pattern? I'm just so tired!!!
Thanks!!
T1988:confused:
kazy68
01-28-2008, 04:31 PM
Hi all,just a quick note on what pud was saying,i to feel very anxious and worry about being alone in the house,i have never felt this before until the symptoms came along 3 years ago,im not as bad as i used to be but i still don't like being alone,my 2 eldest children work in the day time my youngest is at school and recently my hubby was working mostly weekends and evenings,wich was ok i had the kids with me at the time he was at work,now that contract has finished he has applies for work during the day and this scares the hell out of me,i just sit there and worry when no one is here and it does make things ten times worse i just need to calm down and realise that actually im not really ill as such it is just these crazy hormones playing with me again.
kazy
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kazy
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Lynnv57
01-28-2008, 05:00 PM
Thank you Pud for your reply. Of course this could just be good times for me. I am not saying I won't have bad times in the next few days, especially Peri being a Roller Coaster ride most of the time. I am sure that things will happen. I don't wish it on myself but if it happens then I will decide if I can deal with it or not. I also do not get night sweats or hot flashes.
Definetly the symptoms are not in the mind. They are quite real to us women who have them. I did not read about Peri symptoms till I was told by many that those were some of the symptoms. I then researched on the internet realizing I was not alone.
Maybe I won't get that bad again or in the near future, but who knows. I have to wait 11 more months to be in total Menopause.
Until then I will take what comes. My dad often says he takes one day at a time since he beat cancer 9 months ago. Right now I feel pretty good and will just enjoy it. Of course little things enter my mind and slight anxiety now and then.
Lynn
Definetly the symptoms are not in the mind. They are quite real to us women who have them. I did not read about Peri symptoms till I was told by many that those were some of the symptoms. I then researched on the internet realizing I was not alone.
Maybe I won't get that bad again or in the near future, but who knows. I have to wait 11 more months to be in total Menopause.
Until then I will take what comes. My dad often says he takes one day at a time since he beat cancer 9 months ago. Right now I feel pretty good and will just enjoy it. Of course little things enter my mind and slight anxiety now and then.
Lynn
jansonlygirl
01-29-2008, 03:06 AM
Kazy, Being alone terrifies me, like I have said b4 I could have a house full of loved ones and I still feel alone in this mental fog..
It is hard to explain to others how you feel, they don't have it so..they don't get it.
I have had to tell myself that I am fine and I am not going crazy when every one is gone, it is the worst time because you think what if I lose my mind right now and no one is here! But i think if you go crazy you don't even know it?
So I figure if you are aware of how you are feeling at least you are dealing with it, and you just take it day by day, hour by hour, minute by minute, second by second.
Remember your family and loved ones do care and love you, they just don't really get it. It is like giving birth, how do you explain it??
All the best, and get something to keep close to you to remind you that you are ok, I have a Koala bear my mom gave me when I was 18 and I sleep with it when times are tough, she has been gone for 10 years but I am so glad I have this as a reminder of her love.
Jen
It is hard to explain to others how you feel, they don't have it so..they don't get it.
I have had to tell myself that I am fine and I am not going crazy when every one is gone, it is the worst time because you think what if I lose my mind right now and no one is here! But i think if you go crazy you don't even know it?
So I figure if you are aware of how you are feeling at least you are dealing with it, and you just take it day by day, hour by hour, minute by minute, second by second.
Remember your family and loved ones do care and love you, they just don't really get it. It is like giving birth, how do you explain it??
All the best, and get something to keep close to you to remind you that you are ok, I have a Koala bear my mom gave me when I was 18 and I sleep with it when times are tough, she has been gone for 10 years but I am so glad I have this as a reminder of her love.
Jen
kazy68
01-29-2008, 08:02 AM
Hi Jen,
thanks for the reply,you are so right,i know my loved ones care for me and love me,and im sure they get so sick of hearing me complain because that is all i seem to do,even when they go to the shops im saying to them,dont be long,hurry back,i know it is draining for them to,if only they understood what it felt like,i hate feeling like this,and at the moment i have just come down with flu,and things seem to be ten times worse than they where,just last night i sat on the edge of the bed crying and saying why me as if i am not going through enough,my head pounding like it never has before,but still at the same time refusing to take an ibuprofen,even though i know it would probably help,i dont like taking pills of any kind,i have only been taking lyrica for pain witch i have been taking for about 18 months now,i dont think they do a lot for me but i keep taking them anyway,i think i am going to start taking some vitamins to see if they will help but even that scares me lol,how stupid am i,i dont think a vitamin can to much harm.
karen
x
forgive me now........tomorrow i may no longer feel guilty
thanks for the reply,you are so right,i know my loved ones care for me and love me,and im sure they get so sick of hearing me complain because that is all i seem to do,even when they go to the shops im saying to them,dont be long,hurry back,i know it is draining for them to,if only they understood what it felt like,i hate feeling like this,and at the moment i have just come down with flu,and things seem to be ten times worse than they where,just last night i sat on the edge of the bed crying and saying why me as if i am not going through enough,my head pounding like it never has before,but still at the same time refusing to take an ibuprofen,even though i know it would probably help,i dont like taking pills of any kind,i have only been taking lyrica for pain witch i have been taking for about 18 months now,i dont think they do a lot for me but i keep taking them anyway,i think i am going to start taking some vitamins to see if they will help but even that scares me lol,how stupid am i,i dont think a vitamin can to much harm.
karen
x
forgive me now........tomorrow i may no longer feel guilty
pud
01-29-2008, 09:05 AM
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Hello Kazy, Jasonlygirl and Lynnv,
My heart goes out to you all in your suffering - I do know what you are going through. You're right, it's so hard to explain to others how you're feeling. I said to a lady at Keep Fit this morning that I just felt "odd". She asked "how do you mean, odd?" Well, I can't explain it, can it, that's why it's odd!!
Hard being alone in the house isn't it, as if we don't feel bad enough without being left alone! I try to get out as much as possible, but I know I have to "face the fear" at home to a degree - I can't always be out! But, if I've been out and enjoyed it, it's something to remember and think about later, how it was a "good bit" of the day.
With regard to the 'flu, don't forget that 'flu can leave anyone feeling depressed, it can affect brain chemicals - so be prepared for this! I know it's hard not to say "why me?", but that's negative thinking, and perhaps if you say "why not me?" that would make you feel better? After all, I don't think ANYONE goes through life with a totally easy ride, and stressing yourself with "why me" won't make anything better, but will make you feel worse as you are adding more negative thinking into the whole business!
I'm right here with all you guys in all your odd feelings, etc and what you are experiencing, so at least it's a comfort to know we're all the same. I can only reassure you all that you are NOT going mad/crazy (My doc once said that those who are truly mad don't think they are!!) In time, hard as it is, you will probably learn to say to yourself "hey, I know I feel really weird, but at the end of the day it is all those little hormones going haywire and messing up my brain chemistry. I'm not mad, never have been and never will be". Just accept that at the moment you are ill - and you ARE ill - if someone introduced a drug into your body and you had a severe allergic reaction to it, you would be classed as ill. Well, the hormone imbalance is exactly the same thing!
Treat yourself with kindness during this time of life (imagine it's someone else with your problem and you're looking after them - how would you treat them?). If you don't feel like doing something, e.g. housework, and want to go out instead, then don't. No-one will die and if things build up, well, you will get round to doing it eventually! As my husband said, "so what if we have to eat baked beans on toast a couple of nights a week!!??". Not the end of the world.
I think we treat ourselves too harshly when we are suffering like this.
Hope this helps you all a little
Pud
xxx
P.S. My anti-depressants and hrt seem to be kicking in a bit now (10 days on them) - I don't feel quite so anxious/panicky/depressed. Not out of the woods yet though, I know there's still a long way to go................
Hello Kazy, Jasonlygirl and Lynnv,
My heart goes out to you all in your suffering - I do know what you are going through. You're right, it's so hard to explain to others how you're feeling. I said to a lady at Keep Fit this morning that I just felt "odd". She asked "how do you mean, odd?" Well, I can't explain it, can it, that's why it's odd!!
Hard being alone in the house isn't it, as if we don't feel bad enough without being left alone! I try to get out as much as possible, but I know I have to "face the fear" at home to a degree - I can't always be out! But, if I've been out and enjoyed it, it's something to remember and think about later, how it was a "good bit" of the day.
With regard to the 'flu, don't forget that 'flu can leave anyone feeling depressed, it can affect brain chemicals - so be prepared for this! I know it's hard not to say "why me?", but that's negative thinking, and perhaps if you say "why not me?" that would make you feel better? After all, I don't think ANYONE goes through life with a totally easy ride, and stressing yourself with "why me" won't make anything better, but will make you feel worse as you are adding more negative thinking into the whole business!
I'm right here with all you guys in all your odd feelings, etc and what you are experiencing, so at least it's a comfort to know we're all the same. I can only reassure you all that you are NOT going mad/crazy (My doc once said that those who are truly mad don't think they are!!) In time, hard as it is, you will probably learn to say to yourself "hey, I know I feel really weird, but at the end of the day it is all those little hormones going haywire and messing up my brain chemistry. I'm not mad, never have been and never will be". Just accept that at the moment you are ill - and you ARE ill - if someone introduced a drug into your body and you had a severe allergic reaction to it, you would be classed as ill. Well, the hormone imbalance is exactly the same thing!
Treat yourself with kindness during this time of life (imagine it's someone else with your problem and you're looking after them - how would you treat them?). If you don't feel like doing something, e.g. housework, and want to go out instead, then don't. No-one will die and if things build up, well, you will get round to doing it eventually! As my husband said, "so what if we have to eat baked beans on toast a couple of nights a week!!??". Not the end of the world.
I think we treat ourselves too harshly when we are suffering like this.
Hope this helps you all a little
Pud
xxx
P.S. My anti-depressants and hrt seem to be kicking in a bit now (10 days on them) - I don't feel quite so anxious/panicky/depressed. Not out of the woods yet though, I know there's still a long way to go................
Lynnv57
01-29-2008, 12:02 PM
The other day my neighbor spoke to my husband asking how I was doing, mentioning that I told her about my anxiety, depression, etc. when he approached me he asked what I was anxious about and I said "Who the heck knows!?" It just comes and goes for no apparent reason" I too cannot fully explain in detail to him about how I feel or have felt. BUT the women I spoke to DO UNDERSTAND!!!
I never liked to be home alone at night. Now I think I would be mortified!!! I do take one day at a time. Last night I felt a slight anxiety but nothing compared what I had in the past. It seems like sometimes I feel so alive and see so clearly then POOF.....I try to analyze everything I see around me if it is real or not. I have been feeling pretty good though. I try hard not to think of the horrible time in December when it REALLY hit me with the hormones. I am starting to become more relaxed at times, still having the fear of the anxiety or depression hitting me again, but try hard not to let my mind go in that direction if I can.
Hope that you all will be well with these crazy hormone symptoms and just take it one day at a time. I often think of my dad beating cancer with double chemo and radiation last year. He is back to work as a greeter at walmart and golfs again too.....
I am starting to prepare for a huge camping trip in August to Lake Placid and accually beginning to look forward to this big vacation. I also have alot of friends <removed> that helped me through my bad days, so I am not alone. I just feel like it sometimes.
Thanks for listening to me vent.
Lynn
I never liked to be home alone at night. Now I think I would be mortified!!! I do take one day at a time. Last night I felt a slight anxiety but nothing compared what I had in the past. It seems like sometimes I feel so alive and see so clearly then POOF.....I try to analyze everything I see around me if it is real or not. I have been feeling pretty good though. I try hard not to think of the horrible time in December when it REALLY hit me with the hormones. I am starting to become more relaxed at times, still having the fear of the anxiety or depression hitting me again, but try hard not to let my mind go in that direction if I can.
Hope that you all will be well with these crazy hormone symptoms and just take it one day at a time. I often think of my dad beating cancer with double chemo and radiation last year. He is back to work as a greeter at walmart and golfs again too.....
I am starting to prepare for a huge camping trip in August to Lake Placid and accually beginning to look forward to this big vacation. I also have alot of friends <removed> that helped me through my bad days, so I am not alone. I just feel like it sometimes.
Thanks for listening to me vent.
Lynn
kazy68
01-29-2008, 12:16 PM
Hi there pud,
wow what an entry, of cause you are right,after i posted this morning i said to my self ok lets do it, and i did, the house looks great we(hubby as well got to make him work for his tea)did the lot and what a great feeling,i know now that if i dont want to do anything tomorrow i dont have to,it is really hard trying to was the dishes sneezing all the time blowing my nose,it took longer than normal but what the hec i did it i am suffering for it a bit now what with the aches and pains that come along with flu. You are right about being ill to yes i am ILL i feel ill and no one can make it go away so i guess i have to grin and bare it for a while till something comes along that will work for me,and hopefully make me feel a bit better,oh well got to take Bradley(youngest child 10)to the doctors i think he hes got a throat infection,of cause he had the flu first and coped quite well with it then he decided to give it to mom(he is a mommys boy lol)he gets over it but i think he has got this dam infection now so no school for a bit great eh! best go get him sorted,thanks again pud that was a real comfort to get a message like that one and i guess we are not alone thanks for the encoragement it really is a great help.
Karen
x
forgive me today.........tomorrow i may no longer feel guilty
wow what an entry, of cause you are right,after i posted this morning i said to my self ok lets do it, and i did, the house looks great we(hubby as well got to make him work for his tea)did the lot and what a great feeling,i know now that if i dont want to do anything tomorrow i dont have to,it is really hard trying to was the dishes sneezing all the time blowing my nose,it took longer than normal but what the hec i did it i am suffering for it a bit now what with the aches and pains that come along with flu. You are right about being ill to yes i am ILL i feel ill and no one can make it go away so i guess i have to grin and bare it for a while till something comes along that will work for me,and hopefully make me feel a bit better,oh well got to take Bradley(youngest child 10)to the doctors i think he hes got a throat infection,of cause he had the flu first and coped quite well with it then he decided to give it to mom(he is a mommys boy lol)he gets over it but i think he has got this dam infection now so no school for a bit great eh! best go get him sorted,thanks again pud that was a real comfort to get a message like that one and i guess we are not alone thanks for the encoragement it really is a great help.
Karen
x
forgive me today.........tomorrow i may no longer feel guilty
pud
02-01-2008, 10:35 AM
Hi Ladies,
I wonder how you are all getting on? I am still struggling, saw my doc this morning and he is going to change my hrt, also says I have to give the anti-depressants longer to kick in (been on them 2 weeks now). Again, looked at me strangely when I said I felt "ill mentally and physically" - he asked "how do you mean?" Again, I can't explain it can I??!! He is going to do some further blood tests though.
I seem to have the internal shakes at the moment too, like a cat on hot bricks, can't seem to just sit and relax, watching the TV, reading, etc. No matter where I am I seem to be thinking "I've got to get out of here". My heart seems to race too, even on the odd occasions I AM relaxed. Anyone else experienced this?
Did a sleep in at work last night (I'm a carer) and woke up twice, from a deep sleep, in a panic attack. Now, how does that work? Surely it can't be psychological as I was in a deep sleep so unable to be "getting myself worked
up". (Incidentally, insomnia was one of the first changes I noticed in the menopause, whereas I had always been such a good sleeper before, but my anti-depressants help this. Also noticed I needed to "wee" more in the night too as if bladder not right). This is such a strange business!
I have been reading a lot about the fish/flax/borage pills, but does anyone know if you can take them alongside hrt and anti-depressants?
Any advice gratefully received!!
Saw my mum this morning and was telling her how I felt, she said she was much the same in the change. I remember this vaguely, but I probably didn't sympathise at the time, so now I feel awful about that knowing how bad it is. Crumbs, I just hope my 2 daughters don't get this, I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy (but maybe a MAN - well, for one day only - just so they'd know what us women go through!) I saw an article once by a lady suffering badly in the menopause. She made the comment IF MEN HAD THIS THEY WOULD HAVE FOUND A CURE FOR IT BY NOW!!!!! Right ladies?? :mad:
Pud
xxx
I wonder how you are all getting on? I am still struggling, saw my doc this morning and he is going to change my hrt, also says I have to give the anti-depressants longer to kick in (been on them 2 weeks now). Again, looked at me strangely when I said I felt "ill mentally and physically" - he asked "how do you mean?" Again, I can't explain it can I??!! He is going to do some further blood tests though.
I seem to have the internal shakes at the moment too, like a cat on hot bricks, can't seem to just sit and relax, watching the TV, reading, etc. No matter where I am I seem to be thinking "I've got to get out of here". My heart seems to race too, even on the odd occasions I AM relaxed. Anyone else experienced this?
Did a sleep in at work last night (I'm a carer) and woke up twice, from a deep sleep, in a panic attack. Now, how does that work? Surely it can't be psychological as I was in a deep sleep so unable to be "getting myself worked
up". (Incidentally, insomnia was one of the first changes I noticed in the menopause, whereas I had always been such a good sleeper before, but my anti-depressants help this. Also noticed I needed to "wee" more in the night too as if bladder not right). This is such a strange business!
I have been reading a lot about the fish/flax/borage pills, but does anyone know if you can take them alongside hrt and anti-depressants?
Any advice gratefully received!!
Saw my mum this morning and was telling her how I felt, she said she was much the same in the change. I remember this vaguely, but I probably didn't sympathise at the time, so now I feel awful about that knowing how bad it is. Crumbs, I just hope my 2 daughters don't get this, I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy (but maybe a MAN - well, for one day only - just so they'd know what us women go through!) I saw an article once by a lady suffering badly in the menopause. She made the comment IF MEN HAD THIS THEY WOULD HAVE FOUND A CURE FOR IT BY NOW!!!!! Right ladies?? :mad:
Pud
xxx
kazy68
02-01-2008, 05:45 PM
Hi therr pud,
Sorry to hear that you are still struggling but at least you did something about it by visiting your GP,how right you are by saying that if men had to go through this there would most definatley be a cure by now lol.
I also visited my GP today and got a definate yes for being perimenopausal,thank goodness an answer at last,i new all along but it takes forever to get a GP to give a definate yes,he asked if i wanted HRT i said no,well i am only 39 so i might need it later on,so he told me to get some herbal pills instead called menocalm so i am going to try them as of tomorrow,i actually went in today and told him all of my symptoms(normaly miss a few out lol)i have always been a bit embarresed to talk to my GP but today i went in all guns blazing for a change and it didnt faze me a bit,i will let you know if the pills work,im keeping my fingers crossed.
As for the peeing(there really is no other way to put it is there lol)i find myself going a lot in the night to i used to be able to go 9-10 hours before i went but oh no not now im luck if get to 2 hours.
Strange coincidence i also saw my mom today and for the first time she actually talked to me about herslf going through the menopause,and she also had a rough ride,but she has never taken any thing at all for what she went through,and like you i felt a little guilty listening and not remembering what she went through i suppose these feelings come to all of us,like you i have a daughter who is 18 and i will try and keep her up to date on things that happen to me i know she will listen and understand we are very close more like best friends than mother and daughter wich is great and we chat about everything nothing fazes her she is great.
Any way i think i have gone on long enough,i could write a book lol,hope all is well with you and yours keep posting.
Sorry to hear that you are still struggling but at least you did something about it by visiting your GP,how right you are by saying that if men had to go through this there would most definatley be a cure by now lol.
I also visited my GP today and got a definate yes for being perimenopausal,thank goodness an answer at last,i new all along but it takes forever to get a GP to give a definate yes,he asked if i wanted HRT i said no,well i am only 39 so i might need it later on,so he told me to get some herbal pills instead called menocalm so i am going to try them as of tomorrow,i actually went in today and told him all of my symptoms(normaly miss a few out lol)i have always been a bit embarresed to talk to my GP but today i went in all guns blazing for a change and it didnt faze me a bit,i will let you know if the pills work,im keeping my fingers crossed.
As for the peeing(there really is no other way to put it is there lol)i find myself going a lot in the night to i used to be able to go 9-10 hours before i went but oh no not now im luck if get to 2 hours.
Strange coincidence i also saw my mom today and for the first time she actually talked to me about herslf going through the menopause,and she also had a rough ride,but she has never taken any thing at all for what she went through,and like you i felt a little guilty listening and not remembering what she went through i suppose these feelings come to all of us,like you i have a daughter who is 18 and i will try and keep her up to date on things that happen to me i know she will listen and understand we are very close more like best friends than mother and daughter wich is great and we chat about everything nothing fazes her she is great.
Any way i think i have gone on long enough,i could write a book lol,hope all is well with you and yours keep posting.
jansonlygirl
02-01-2008, 06:22 PM
Hi Girls,
Well, just a few things here, I am so sad today I started out pretty good and then after a few hours I got soooo tired I had to nap, which I do a lot of!
Before my nap my neck, shoulders and arms ached so much, from what I don't know, it felt like flu aches. I just get so tired of being like this, I really hate being me. I woke up and cried feeling so bad for having to nap again!!
The thing is I have had the same routine for years, I am a night owl and go to bed about 2am, I do have some wine.. and wake up about 11am, that is how I have been for the past 5 years or so. I would always get on with day. Now I wake up waiting to see how I will feel and gauge my day by that, usually not very good. I used to want to get up and get going. I seem to spend most of my day in my room, it is like a living room so it is not at all bad, go down and eat or clean, and i run a business from home with my daughter, so i do that too. I think all the time that I must be sick and it is eating away at me!! The days just seem to flow together, and I guess the crappy winter weather doesn't help, not being able to sit in the garden. In the summer I am out all day, I have a lovely enclosed backyard and it is so nice, maybe that is part of it, I don't know.. I also do take an anti-depressant and anti anxiety drug so this might make me tired with the peri because they never used to.
Ok I am rambling, but I love your posts, I know I am not alone, take care girls see ya soon..
Jen
Well, just a few things here, I am so sad today I started out pretty good and then after a few hours I got soooo tired I had to nap, which I do a lot of!
Before my nap my neck, shoulders and arms ached so much, from what I don't know, it felt like flu aches. I just get so tired of being like this, I really hate being me. I woke up and cried feeling so bad for having to nap again!!
The thing is I have had the same routine for years, I am a night owl and go to bed about 2am, I do have some wine.. and wake up about 11am, that is how I have been for the past 5 years or so. I would always get on with day. Now I wake up waiting to see how I will feel and gauge my day by that, usually not very good. I used to want to get up and get going. I seem to spend most of my day in my room, it is like a living room so it is not at all bad, go down and eat or clean, and i run a business from home with my daughter, so i do that too. I think all the time that I must be sick and it is eating away at me!! The days just seem to flow together, and I guess the crappy winter weather doesn't help, not being able to sit in the garden. In the summer I am out all day, I have a lovely enclosed backyard and it is so nice, maybe that is part of it, I don't know.. I also do take an anti-depressant and anti anxiety drug so this might make me tired with the peri because they never used to.
Ok I am rambling, but I love your posts, I know I am not alone, take care girls see ya soon..
Jen
kazy68
02-01-2008, 07:57 PM
Hi there jansonlygirl,
I really do know how you feel,i used to be the same its only been the last few weeks that i have been able to get out of the rut i was in,i used to nap in the day to and stay up late,it seemed to be a routine i had goten into over the last 3 years and it was wearing me down to,so i started another routine and took it slowly,i started by going to bed just half an hour earlier and setting the alarm clock half hour earlier to,and i built up gradually aver a few weeks,i know it is harder during the winter months but you need to get into a new routine,if you feel the need to nap try taking a power nap,set an alarm on a mobile phone or a bigger alarm if needs be and set it just for 15-25 mins and make yourself get up and do something,leave a bit of cleaning so you know you have to wake up and do it,or an importaint piece of work as you work from home,it will be hard to start with but it will pay of in the end i promise you it has really worked for me and it has made me feel a whole lot better,take it easy and build it up gradually.
i really hope this helps you like i said it is an auful place to be,the rut will be harder to get out of if you dont try something now,good luck and keep in touch and let me know how you get on,dont forget take it slowly,like mine once was your body clock is out and it is hard to get it back after so long.
I really do know how you feel,i used to be the same its only been the last few weeks that i have been able to get out of the rut i was in,i used to nap in the day to and stay up late,it seemed to be a routine i had goten into over the last 3 years and it was wearing me down to,so i started another routine and took it slowly,i started by going to bed just half an hour earlier and setting the alarm clock half hour earlier to,and i built up gradually aver a few weeks,i know it is harder during the winter months but you need to get into a new routine,if you feel the need to nap try taking a power nap,set an alarm on a mobile phone or a bigger alarm if needs be and set it just for 15-25 mins and make yourself get up and do something,leave a bit of cleaning so you know you have to wake up and do it,or an importaint piece of work as you work from home,it will be hard to start with but it will pay of in the end i promise you it has really worked for me and it has made me feel a whole lot better,take it easy and build it up gradually.
i really hope this helps you like i said it is an auful place to be,the rut will be harder to get out of if you dont try something now,good luck and keep in touch and let me know how you get on,dont forget take it slowly,like mine once was your body clock is out and it is hard to get it back after so long.
pud
02-02-2008, 11:05 AM
:angel:Hi girls,
Thanks for the replies. LOL Kazy, my youngest daughter (20) is also so balanced, she guides me a lot through life and I can't believe the wisdom of her at such a young age!! The elder daughter (22) is a little love also, full of wisdom but, unfortunately, like me she is super sensitive (she occassionally has panic attacks too if lots of stressful things going on in her life). I often wonder if it's such a good thing to be so sensitive and emotional, I'm sure life would be a lot easier if I could be more of a "hard nut". But then, at least I can really sympathise and feel for people and their problems, so I guess that must be a blessing!:angel:
Not been too bad yesterday and today, did a sleep in at work last night and actually managed to sleep right through! Amazing - not one pee in the night! I also felt more calm in the afternoon, tho' the morning had been pretty rough after visiting the doc and my mum. Maybe my anti-depressants are beginning to kick in. This morning I went with a group of friends from church to a "ladies breakfast" in a big hotel about 20 miles away, in a village north of Bedford. It was great, the food was excellent (all for £6 per ticket!) and the speaker was good, on "Embracing Change". It wasn't "churchy" at all, but how this affects everyone in life. I talked with the speaker afterwards, a friend told her about me having been poorly and she said we don't speak about it often enough. But I told her that because I had "opened up" about my terrible menopause symptoms, so many other ladies had done the same and told me they have/had the same problems!! So there you go girls, and we are lucky to be able to talk to each other on here!
I'm going for a nap too now, but that's because I've been up from 6.30 am after a sleep in at work and tomorrow I am working in the children's respite home and have to be there at 7.00 am. Otherwise, unless knackered, I try to avoid sleeping in the day as it can sometimes make me feel worse.
Keep posting about how you all are.
Love,
Pud
xxxx
Thanks for the replies. LOL Kazy, my youngest daughter (20) is also so balanced, she guides me a lot through life and I can't believe the wisdom of her at such a young age!! The elder daughter (22) is a little love also, full of wisdom but, unfortunately, like me she is super sensitive (she occassionally has panic attacks too if lots of stressful things going on in her life). I often wonder if it's such a good thing to be so sensitive and emotional, I'm sure life would be a lot easier if I could be more of a "hard nut". But then, at least I can really sympathise and feel for people and their problems, so I guess that must be a blessing!:angel:
Not been too bad yesterday and today, did a sleep in at work last night and actually managed to sleep right through! Amazing - not one pee in the night! I also felt more calm in the afternoon, tho' the morning had been pretty rough after visiting the doc and my mum. Maybe my anti-depressants are beginning to kick in. This morning I went with a group of friends from church to a "ladies breakfast" in a big hotel about 20 miles away, in a village north of Bedford. It was great, the food was excellent (all for £6 per ticket!) and the speaker was good, on "Embracing Change". It wasn't "churchy" at all, but how this affects everyone in life. I talked with the speaker afterwards, a friend told her about me having been poorly and she said we don't speak about it often enough. But I told her that because I had "opened up" about my terrible menopause symptoms, so many other ladies had done the same and told me they have/had the same problems!! So there you go girls, and we are lucky to be able to talk to each other on here!
I'm going for a nap too now, but that's because I've been up from 6.30 am after a sleep in at work and tomorrow I am working in the children's respite home and have to be there at 7.00 am. Otherwise, unless knackered, I try to avoid sleeping in the day as it can sometimes make me feel worse.
Keep posting about how you all are.
Love,
Pud
xxxx
pammcat
02-02-2008, 10:32 PM
Dear Pud, I Too Have Internal Shaking....very Weird And Frightening...it Has Almost Gone Completely And Comes Along Very Lightly Around My Period Time, Two Weeks After Taking A Complete Muti Vit. All Of My Symptoms Diminished Drastically Also Take Borage/flax/fish Combo....it Will Subside ..trying To Keep Busy During This Feeling Really Helped Me Cope...i Also Had The Feeling Of Wanting To Flee Where Ever I Was....stay Calm It Does Get Better........hope I Was Of Some Help....pammcat
jansonlygirl
02-03-2008, 02:42 AM
Hello again girls!
I just love seeing the posts, I know I am not crazy by reading them!
I now know why I have been so sleepy and achy the last few days, I have a full blown cold, but with the cold at least I know what is wrong.. with peri-meno, it is evasive like a thief it steals so quietly. I can't express how much my husband means to me, he takes such good care of me knowing how lousy I feel most of the time. Also my grown 23 year old daughter is a god send right now, she lives in the house next door to me and we run a small bath and body business from home so she keeps me going everyday with orders to fill etc.. I actually felt ok today even with all the blowing and congestion. By the way he is from England too! he was born in Mortimer Reading, ahhh the English so patient...every weekend he brings me coffee or tea and makes sure I have a good meal, what a guy:) I have my period right now and as usual I have gone through almost 60 tampons in 3 days, and flooded a pair of undies..I was hoping it wouldn't show up but no luck. My daughter says it is good to get them then I won't "dry up" and get all wrinkled..lol I would take this cold I have everyday over peri anyday!!
Keep posting girls I am always checking in for my mental boost from you all, take care and stay strong.
Jen
I just love seeing the posts, I know I am not crazy by reading them!
I now know why I have been so sleepy and achy the last few days, I have a full blown cold, but with the cold at least I know what is wrong.. with peri-meno, it is evasive like a thief it steals so quietly. I can't express how much my husband means to me, he takes such good care of me knowing how lousy I feel most of the time. Also my grown 23 year old daughter is a god send right now, she lives in the house next door to me and we run a small bath and body business from home so she keeps me going everyday with orders to fill etc.. I actually felt ok today even with all the blowing and congestion. By the way he is from England too! he was born in Mortimer Reading, ahhh the English so patient...every weekend he brings me coffee or tea and makes sure I have a good meal, what a guy:) I have my period right now and as usual I have gone through almost 60 tampons in 3 days, and flooded a pair of undies..I was hoping it wouldn't show up but no luck. My daughter says it is good to get them then I won't "dry up" and get all wrinkled..lol I would take this cold I have everyday over peri anyday!!
Keep posting girls I am always checking in for my mental boost from you all, take care and stay strong.
Jen
Laye
02-03-2008, 10:38 AM
It's so wonderful to read all of these posts. They get me through the day! Thank you ladies!! I have two grown children. I also have female friends that are just starting their families in their late 30's. I could NOT imagine having to deal with young children and having to go through peri at the same time. I listen to them talk about their babies and sometimes I want to warn them about the upcoming challenges but I don't dare right now. They see me beginning to struggle with "the change" but it's the furthest thing from their minds. I have one friend who is pregnant with her second child and another one in her early 40's with two kids under 5. I am so thankful I had my kids young because you don't think about the hormonal changes in midlife. I was just wondering if any of you have young children now? Sometimes I think having young ones now might take your mind off feeling miserable. But then I think I could never have enough energy to raise them if I felt like I do now. Looking back, I'm so glad I had my children young so I can ride this out without that added responsibility.
Right now..It's the depression that is really getting to me. I just feel so utterly blue and out of sorts with myself. I have really been laying low and I think that has helped. Also, I do find myself worrying about such end all problems. Like everything is so extreme. The last couple of days my bladder doesn't feel like it needs so much attention. I'm hoping it's finding ways to move on and stop being so needy. Yes, I'm having this kind of relationship with an organ in my body. It's funny..peri allows you to do that. My bladder gets more attention from me than anyone else on the planet at this moment.
I'm like.."Don't you have anything better to do than to bug me??"
Right now..It's the depression that is really getting to me. I just feel so utterly blue and out of sorts with myself. I have really been laying low and I think that has helped. Also, I do find myself worrying about such end all problems. Like everything is so extreme. The last couple of days my bladder doesn't feel like it needs so much attention. I'm hoping it's finding ways to move on and stop being so needy. Yes, I'm having this kind of relationship with an organ in my body. It's funny..peri allows you to do that. My bladder gets more attention from me than anyone else on the planet at this moment.
I'm like.."Don't you have anything better to do than to bug me??"
kazy68
02-05-2008, 10:24 AM
Hi there ladies,
I was just sitting here feeling so fed up and bored i thought i would check in and see how you all are.
I'm still trying to get over the flu i feel now it is going to my chest, not good, that normaly means another trip tp the Dr's to get MORE pills, as i walk i sure i can hear them rattle,lol.
Is it me or do some symptoms get worse when you feel under the weather,my back has never ached so much,not only at the bottom but across the top of my shoulders is agony, i know the flu brings on aches and pains but not like this, i can tell the difference.
Been taking Menopace now for a few days,dont feel any different at the moment, i suppose i have to give them time to get in to my system, they are only herbal but my GP thinks they might help and hopefully they will help me feel like myself again,something has to.
The weather here in the UK is absolutley auful the sky is black and of cause it is pouring with rain, it feels like we haven't had any day light at all today no wonder i feel so low, even the weather gives me a head ache.
Hope you are all feeling well, keep in touch, until next time
Karen
I was just sitting here feeling so fed up and bored i thought i would check in and see how you all are.
I'm still trying to get over the flu i feel now it is going to my chest, not good, that normaly means another trip tp the Dr's to get MORE pills, as i walk i sure i can hear them rattle,lol.
Is it me or do some symptoms get worse when you feel under the weather,my back has never ached so much,not only at the bottom but across the top of my shoulders is agony, i know the flu brings on aches and pains but not like this, i can tell the difference.
Been taking Menopace now for a few days,dont feel any different at the moment, i suppose i have to give them time to get in to my system, they are only herbal but my GP thinks they might help and hopefully they will help me feel like myself again,something has to.
The weather here in the UK is absolutley auful the sky is black and of cause it is pouring with rain, it feels like we haven't had any day light at all today no wonder i feel so low, even the weather gives me a head ache.
Hope you are all feeling well, keep in touch, until next time
Karen
Lynnv57
02-05-2008, 12:12 PM
Hello Ladies,
Just thought I would check in to see how everyone is doing. I for one have good days and bad(not too bad but aggravating) Will be trying a new product in a few days, Amberen. I feel this will work for me rather than taking so many other natural products day in and day out. If it doesn't than I will get a refund.
My Gyn would not do any hormone tests as she said they fluctuate too much and they would not give an acuurate reading. But...with my symptoms she said I am in Peri as I thought.
Depression happens now and then, anxiety just a little. Sometimes I think I will never feel like I did a few months ago and that can bring on the anxiety. I try to keep busy at work and at home as well.
Sleep is not improving much. Sometimes I think I sleep really well but end up exhausted in the morning and drag myself around work.
Just looking to feel so much like myself again.
Hope you are all doing well.
Lynn
Just thought I would check in to see how everyone is doing. I for one have good days and bad(not too bad but aggravating) Will be trying a new product in a few days, Amberen. I feel this will work for me rather than taking so many other natural products day in and day out. If it doesn't than I will get a refund.
My Gyn would not do any hormone tests as she said they fluctuate too much and they would not give an acuurate reading. But...with my symptoms she said I am in Peri as I thought.
Depression happens now and then, anxiety just a little. Sometimes I think I will never feel like I did a few months ago and that can bring on the anxiety. I try to keep busy at work and at home as well.
Sleep is not improving much. Sometimes I think I sleep really well but end up exhausted in the morning and drag myself around work.
Just looking to feel so much like myself again.
Hope you are all doing well.
Lynn
pud
02-06-2008, 02:06 PM
Hi All,
It's Pud again! Seems you're like me (although I can't say good and bad DAYS), I have good/bad mornings/afternoons, etc. Oh dear! Like today I was fine in the morning, but then had severe anxiety in the afternoon (not helped by having to have my 5 year smear test today too!).
I think I need to have a job in a busy, bustling place among company. I work alone (I'm a carer) and only see my colleagues at handover or if we take the clients out together. I don't think the boredom and lack of mental stimulation help my problem, but on the other hand I'm scared stiff of starting a new job for fear of coping with my anxiety/panic attacks (not that I don't already get them at work, but at least they know I'm poorly!) I'm involved with lots of church groups and have a good network of friends, but I really think I need more than this.
SO (LOL) a friend and I (she has similar problems) have decided to go to one of our local big towns next week - <removed> Oh dear, this is going to be a real big thing! I guess I am just going to HAVE to give it a try and take the anxiety/panic with me!
I think I am lonely and bored, my daughters are away at university and my husband works long hours. I'm even debating working full time - now that will be fun when the girls finish uni and live back with us for a while - the housework goes through the roof, BUT they will just have to help, even if working full time themselves! I'm from a city too originally (Liverpool) so country life is a bit quiet for me.
I don't think we are creatures meant to be left alone and bored, but once ill it's hard to get yourself out of this situation. Any tips guys??!!
Thank goodness for this board. Keep posting
Lots of love,
Pam (aka Pud):confused:
It's Pud again! Seems you're like me (although I can't say good and bad DAYS), I have good/bad mornings/afternoons, etc. Oh dear! Like today I was fine in the morning, but then had severe anxiety in the afternoon (not helped by having to have my 5 year smear test today too!).
I think I need to have a job in a busy, bustling place among company. I work alone (I'm a carer) and only see my colleagues at handover or if we take the clients out together. I don't think the boredom and lack of mental stimulation help my problem, but on the other hand I'm scared stiff of starting a new job for fear of coping with my anxiety/panic attacks (not that I don't already get them at work, but at least they know I'm poorly!) I'm involved with lots of church groups and have a good network of friends, but I really think I need more than this.
SO (LOL) a friend and I (she has similar problems) have decided to go to one of our local big towns next week - <removed> Oh dear, this is going to be a real big thing! I guess I am just going to HAVE to give it a try and take the anxiety/panic with me!
I think I am lonely and bored, my daughters are away at university and my husband works long hours. I'm even debating working full time - now that will be fun when the girls finish uni and live back with us for a while - the housework goes through the roof, BUT they will just have to help, even if working full time themselves! I'm from a city too originally (Liverpool) so country life is a bit quiet for me.
I don't think we are creatures meant to be left alone and bored, but once ill it's hard to get yourself out of this situation. Any tips guys??!!
Thank goodness for this board. Keep posting
Lots of love,
Pam (aka Pud):confused:
mod-anon
02-07-2008, 03:15 AM
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pud
02-07-2008, 11:47 AM
Okay, sorry. Good point about the towns, etc possibly leading to identification. Thanks for this.
Pud
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pud
02-07-2008, 11:56 AM
Hi Kazy68,
On top of all the horrible menopausal symptoms, I have a cold which is also making my chest ache now. I also had to go for a smear yesterday, but as I was bad with anxiety at the time (just the usual general anxiety, nothing to do with the smear!), I was just not bothered about the cold or the smear!! I suppose, in a very ironic way, you could say that was about the ONLY good thing about the anxiety - it made the cold and smear seem pretty trivial!! I am having good and bad times, but I HOPE I am learning to cope a bit better, that is things pass, or maybe the combination of the anti-depressants and hrt are starting to work, I don't know. I have such good and supportive friends too, they took me to a cafe for breakfast this morning and we all had a good laugh - always helpful (also, a lot of them are menopausal so we can all sympathise with each other!).
ANYWAY, hope you are feeling better now too and your 'flu is clearing up. Just a point, 'flu can leave you with depression (even people who never suffer anything like this can get it), but usually it doesn't last long. So be aware of this when you are over it!!!!!:):)
Pud
Hi there ladies,
I was just sitting here feeling so fed up and bored i thought i would check in and see how you all are.
I'm still trying to get over the flu i feel now it is going to my chest, not good, that normaly means another trip tp the Dr's to get MORE pills, as i walk i sure i can hear them rattle,lol.
Is it me or do some symptoms get worse when you feel under the weather,my back has never ached so much,not only at the bottom but across the top of my shoulders is agony, i know the flu brings on aches and pains but not like this, i can tell the difference.
Been taking Menopace now for a few days,dont feel any different at the moment, i suppose i have to give them time to get in to my system, they are only herbal but my GP thinks they might help and hopefully they will help me feel like myself again,something has to.
The weather here in the UK is absolutley auful the sky is black and of cause it is pouring with rain, it feels like we haven't had any day light at all today no wonder i feel so low, even the weather gives me a head ache.
Hope you are all feeling well, keep in touch, until next time
Karen
On top of all the horrible menopausal symptoms, I have a cold which is also making my chest ache now. I also had to go for a smear yesterday, but as I was bad with anxiety at the time (just the usual general anxiety, nothing to do with the smear!), I was just not bothered about the cold or the smear!! I suppose, in a very ironic way, you could say that was about the ONLY good thing about the anxiety - it made the cold and smear seem pretty trivial!! I am having good and bad times, but I HOPE I am learning to cope a bit better, that is things pass, or maybe the combination of the anti-depressants and hrt are starting to work, I don't know. I have such good and supportive friends too, they took me to a cafe for breakfast this morning and we all had a good laugh - always helpful (also, a lot of them are menopausal so we can all sympathise with each other!).
ANYWAY, hope you are feeling better now too and your 'flu is clearing up. Just a point, 'flu can leave you with depression (even people who never suffer anything like this can get it), but usually it doesn't last long. So be aware of this when you are over it!!!!!:):)
Pud
Hi there ladies,
I was just sitting here feeling so fed up and bored i thought i would check in and see how you all are.
I'm still trying to get over the flu i feel now it is going to my chest, not good, that normaly means another trip tp the Dr's to get MORE pills, as i walk i sure i can hear them rattle,lol.
Is it me or do some symptoms get worse when you feel under the weather,my back has never ached so much,not only at the bottom but across the top of my shoulders is agony, i know the flu brings on aches and pains but not like this, i can tell the difference.
Been taking Menopace now for a few days,dont feel any different at the moment, i suppose i have to give them time to get in to my system, they are only herbal but my GP thinks they might help and hopefully they will help me feel like myself again,something has to.
The weather here in the UK is absolutley auful the sky is black and of cause it is pouring with rain, it feels like we haven't had any day light at all today no wonder i feel so low, even the weather gives me a head ache.
Hope you are all feeling well, keep in touch, until next time
Karen
liverpool sue
02-07-2008, 03:23 PM
karen, you really have to give the menopause supplements a good go. see how you feel after 3 months, a few days on them is neither here nor there. they are a gradual build up in your system, not a quick fix like hrt or anti depressants. don't give up on them, they really do help a lot of ladies, me included.
mod-anon
02-08-2008, 03:25 AM
Laye, I've moved your post to a new thread because it's a new topic that others might find interesting.
diannem
02-08-2008, 11:51 AM
I am so glad I came here.. Why don't they have menopause meetings like they do AAA, weight watchers, and others...I have had a horrible time...I am 50 and the doctor said I was in peri-menopause. I have always had PMS bad! But this has been horrible.. I go maybe two months with no period. and it just same like my thoughts just run wild..I never could make it without the Lord...I would be crazy...and to devil knows how to use these times to make it even worst...It is very scary but knowing from others it is hormones and it is normal phase in life helps...Thanks
pud
02-08-2008, 01:28 PM
Hi diannem,
Yes, you see, you are yet another lady who has joined the rest of us in thinking that we are going mad! It is so hard this time of life, but I do remember having a MASSIVE mood change some time after my periods stopped completely about 18 months ago (I'm now 54). Quite a few of my friends say they've experienced this too. From that moment on, I changed dramatically both physically and mentally. For a start off, I became unable to sleep, would wake up about 4 times in the night - each time would need to visit the loo as well as my bladder full to bursting. So unlike how I was before! Also low mood, nothing seemed enjoyable anymore, very strange thoughts and feelings - I would lie in bed and think "I'm going mad, I'm going mad". After this, the anxiety followed.
Now I'm on a combination of hrt and anti-depressants, and I think I am just beginning to turn the corner (and sleeping well again, without "loo" trips in the night) - though I do feel very fragile still, like a reed in a strong wind, one large gust and down I'd go again! BUT, although a long and slow journey, I believe I am on the road to recovery.
This is a terrible time of life - no-one warns you about it! I think you're right about having "menopause meetings"!! I too have a faith, which has been made (strangely!) very strong through this suffering - probably because I've had to hang onto the Lord for dear life through such bad times! Now, oh how I sympathise with others' suffering - maybe this was a plan from above somehow!
Let us know how you're getting on.
Pud
xxx
I am so glad I came here.. Why don't they have menopause meetings like they do AAA, weight watchers, and others...I have had a horrible time...I am 50 and the doctor said I was in peri-menopause. I have always had PMS bad! But this has been horrible.. I go maybe two months with no period. and it just same like my thoughts just run wild..I never could make it without the Lord...I would be crazy...and to devil knows how to use these times to make it even worst...It is very scary but knowing from others it is hormones and it is normal phase in life helps...Thanks
Yes, you see, you are yet another lady who has joined the rest of us in thinking that we are going mad! It is so hard this time of life, but I do remember having a MASSIVE mood change some time after my periods stopped completely about 18 months ago (I'm now 54). Quite a few of my friends say they've experienced this too. From that moment on, I changed dramatically both physically and mentally. For a start off, I became unable to sleep, would wake up about 4 times in the night - each time would need to visit the loo as well as my bladder full to bursting. So unlike how I was before! Also low mood, nothing seemed enjoyable anymore, very strange thoughts and feelings - I would lie in bed and think "I'm going mad, I'm going mad". After this, the anxiety followed.
Now I'm on a combination of hrt and anti-depressants, and I think I am just beginning to turn the corner (and sleeping well again, without "loo" trips in the night) - though I do feel very fragile still, like a reed in a strong wind, one large gust and down I'd go again! BUT, although a long and slow journey, I believe I am on the road to recovery.
This is a terrible time of life - no-one warns you about it! I think you're right about having "menopause meetings"!! I too have a faith, which has been made (strangely!) very strong through this suffering - probably because I've had to hang onto the Lord for dear life through such bad times! Now, oh how I sympathise with others' suffering - maybe this was a plan from above somehow!
Let us know how you're getting on.
Pud
xxx
I am so glad I came here.. Why don't they have menopause meetings like they do AAA, weight watchers, and others...I have had a horrible time...I am 50 and the doctor said I was in peri-menopause. I have always had PMS bad! But this has been horrible.. I go maybe two months with no period. and it just same like my thoughts just run wild..I never could make it without the Lord...I would be crazy...and to devil knows how to use these times to make it even worst...It is very scary but knowing from others it is hormones and it is normal phase in life helps...Thanks
liverpool sue
02-08-2008, 02:39 PM
i found it the opposite.the years leading up to my periods stopping were the absolute worst for all the symptoms. in fact the dreadful pms was the first sign for me, anything up to 8-10 years before. once my periods stopped, then all the symptoms started to ease, to the point now (2 years without a period) that i feel almost as i did before any of this perimenopause and menopause started. we're all different in our response to these jangling hormones, and the way we deal with it, and i'm just very thankful for the way i feel now.
diannem
02-08-2008, 04:18 PM
Thanks so much!! My periods haven't stopped.. I go a month maybe skip one then start again..Like I said I have suffered with bad PMS for years...of course every doctor back then just told me it was just something i had to live with...I even had one doctor to tell me I had a lose apple in my cart???I was 24 at the time was fixin to get married had started on birth control and after being on those for a couple of months things went wild..I could tell they they messed up everything..so when I went back and told him somethnig was right that is when he said that. Found out a year later a had pcos which effects your hormones (more like horror- mones) I suffered alot alone..If only there would have been internet 25 years...and to this day sometimes when things are bad..I think about that unkind doctor.. He will never know how at 24 years old with PMS how that has effected me...When I started reading about PMS and PCOS I new it wasn't just in my head...I hope what I have gone through and going through will help others...there was no one there to help me..
mod-anon
02-09-2008, 03:11 AM
mcdowell, I've started a new thread with your question regarding supplements, as others will also be interested in the topic.
pud
02-11-2008, 06:37 AM
Hi Ladies,
Just a question to you all. Do you feel absolutely lousy in the morning? I can go to bed feeling quite postive and (reasonably) well, sometimes even wake up initially not feeling too bad, but as soon as I get out of bed and get going, I feel positively awful! Even to load the washing machine seems like a mamoth task! I actually feel ILL, like I've got some sort of horrible disease or something. I often also feel very "wooly headed", like I'm not really in the world (interesting another lady posted this as feeling like she was having an "out of body experience" - I can relate to that!).
I can also feel like my whole body wants to "shake", yet it's sort of internal, oh I guess you know what I mean, it's really hard to describe these symptoms. I do usually improve as the day goes on (keeping going facing up to the anxiety/panic/depression/low feelings, etc, though NOT easy).
Would really like to know if anyone else out there feels the same? My doc has done some new blood tests just in case I've got a thyroid problem, but I suspect it's just the horrible old hormones playing havoc as usual.
Pud
x
Just a question to you all. Do you feel absolutely lousy in the morning? I can go to bed feeling quite postive and (reasonably) well, sometimes even wake up initially not feeling too bad, but as soon as I get out of bed and get going, I feel positively awful! Even to load the washing machine seems like a mamoth task! I actually feel ILL, like I've got some sort of horrible disease or something. I often also feel very "wooly headed", like I'm not really in the world (interesting another lady posted this as feeling like she was having an "out of body experience" - I can relate to that!).
I can also feel like my whole body wants to "shake", yet it's sort of internal, oh I guess you know what I mean, it's really hard to describe these symptoms. I do usually improve as the day goes on (keeping going facing up to the anxiety/panic/depression/low feelings, etc, though NOT easy).
Would really like to know if anyone else out there feels the same? My doc has done some new blood tests just in case I've got a thyroid problem, but I suspect it's just the horrible old hormones playing havoc as usual.
Pud
x
marla20
02-11-2008, 08:16 AM
Pud,
I feel bad in the morning. I am always sick to my stomach. As I get going I feel awful. I am a teacher so I have to get up, however I would be happy not getting dressed and staying home. I don't get it because I have always been a morning person. I still get up quite early but I just feel horrible. Every symptom you can ever imagine. Lower back ache, grumpy, anxiety, sick to my stomach, bloating, heavy heavy periods, waking up, not sleeping, and much much more. I am on vitamins, but I am even wondering about that. I have become negative which is also not really me. Yuck!!! Will this get better. Marla
I feel bad in the morning. I am always sick to my stomach. As I get going I feel awful. I am a teacher so I have to get up, however I would be happy not getting dressed and staying home. I don't get it because I have always been a morning person. I still get up quite early but I just feel horrible. Every symptom you can ever imagine. Lower back ache, grumpy, anxiety, sick to my stomach, bloating, heavy heavy periods, waking up, not sleeping, and much much more. I am on vitamins, but I am even wondering about that. I have become negative which is also not really me. Yuck!!! Will this get better. Marla
diannem
02-11-2008, 11:04 AM
Mornings are the worst for me too! Takes me all day to got over them..Usually I am a morning person...But not right now...and I try to get up and get out as soon as I can..don't like to me alone when I feel like this..
charpo
02-11-2008, 01:04 PM
I am also glad I got on this board again today. I really feel like I'm losing my mind and I mean REALLY losing it. Nothing seems right any more, I don't know if I'm coming or going. I don't know if another thing I'm experiencing is what everyone describes as brain fog or not. I'm afraid to even talk that others can tell that I am losing my mind. Do any of you also feel like this? I also feel sick all the time. This month is finally the full year that I haven't had any periods.
Please someone talk to me and tell me it will be okay.
Please someone talk to me and tell me it will be okay.
pud
02-11-2008, 01:30 PM
Hi Ladies,
Oh well, LOL (not funny really!) it seems all these horrible, strange symptoms are all "normal" in the menopause. Totally with you all about feeling at times I am REALLY losing it and going mad! Although not at all glad that you lot are suffering like this, it is reassuring to me that it's not just me. I wonder also when it will all end, but the more I see it's part of the menopause, at least that's a bit of a help. I was out with friends today, lovely and sunny, at a busy walking centre, had lunch, nice walk - but felt I was on a different planet to them (fortunately they are understanding!). I too feel "sick in the stomach" - I think this is depression.
What else can we do but to go with it? It's so hard feeling so mentally and physically ill. I am an outgoing, confident person with a good sense of humour (friends tell me I cheer them all up), but inside I am crying with all this business. Heck, I even panic if my daughters ring me up! Strange, strange, strange!
Keep hanging on in there - we all need to keep in touch regularly and keep reassuring each other!
Pud
x
Oh well, LOL (not funny really!) it seems all these horrible, strange symptoms are all "normal" in the menopause. Totally with you all about feeling at times I am REALLY losing it and going mad! Although not at all glad that you lot are suffering like this, it is reassuring to me that it's not just me. I wonder also when it will all end, but the more I see it's part of the menopause, at least that's a bit of a help. I was out with friends today, lovely and sunny, at a busy walking centre, had lunch, nice walk - but felt I was on a different planet to them (fortunately they are understanding!). I too feel "sick in the stomach" - I think this is depression.
What else can we do but to go with it? It's so hard feeling so mentally and physically ill. I am an outgoing, confident person with a good sense of humour (friends tell me I cheer them all up), but inside I am crying with all this business. Heck, I even panic if my daughters ring me up! Strange, strange, strange!
Keep hanging on in there - we all need to keep in touch regularly and keep reassuring each other!
Pud
x
marla20
02-11-2008, 02:03 PM
Oh yes when my boys call now I panic. What is that about. I need to add that to my list of stuff. Crazy mother sounds good!!! Before I can even say Hello I am asking "What's wrong??? They need to add this to list of symptoms. As you can see I have not lost my sense of humor. I guess that is a good thing. We really need it these days. Marla.
pud
02-12-2008, 07:26 AM
Hi again Ladies,
Another question! (Sorry about this, but don't forget, you can also ask me or the others any questions if it helps!). I wonder if any of you work or not? I'm not sure if it's better to have a job or not. I do have a job of sorts, as a relief care worker, but it's lone working so not so good, also the hours are strange, and I feel maybe I need a job to get me out and about every day in the company of others. Sometimes I go to work in a children's home, and I must admit I do feel better when having worked there, but it's not permanent. It may become permanent, but like all these type of jobs, it takes so long to actually start as you have to have so many checks, which can take weeks.
I feel I'm in a real "Catch 22" situation. Because of my anxiety and panic, on the one hand I hate being at home alone with it, but am so scared of working as I've also felt really bad at work. Oh my goodness, we just can't win with this darn problem can we? I'm just wondering if I should just grab the bull by the horns, grit my teeth, and try my hardest to get a job in a busy, lively place.
Anyone else in this situation?
Any advice on this one would be much appreciated!!!!! :confused:
Pud
X
Another question! (Sorry about this, but don't forget, you can also ask me or the others any questions if it helps!). I wonder if any of you work or not? I'm not sure if it's better to have a job or not. I do have a job of sorts, as a relief care worker, but it's lone working so not so good, also the hours are strange, and I feel maybe I need a job to get me out and about every day in the company of others. Sometimes I go to work in a children's home, and I must admit I do feel better when having worked there, but it's not permanent. It may become permanent, but like all these type of jobs, it takes so long to actually start as you have to have so many checks, which can take weeks.
I feel I'm in a real "Catch 22" situation. Because of my anxiety and panic, on the one hand I hate being at home alone with it, but am so scared of working as I've also felt really bad at work. Oh my goodness, we just can't win with this darn problem can we? I'm just wondering if I should just grab the bull by the horns, grit my teeth, and try my hardest to get a job in a busy, lively place.
Anyone else in this situation?
Any advice on this one would be much appreciated!!!!! :confused:
Pud
X
I C Hot
02-12-2008, 11:31 AM
Charpo,
You are not alone and I don't think you are crazy. I do no that it feels like you are crazy though. I finally a couple years back went on a HRT after trying a few different AD's, and it really saved me and got me back on track. I don't think they are for everyone though and have weaned off them now. You might talk with your Dr and see if there is something to help you. But keep checking in here and posting as I have found it to be VERY helpful.
Pud,
I do work part time and think it helps me a lot. On my days off I seem to not feel as good as when I have to get up and going. I am glad it is only part time though as I would feel overwhelmed with stuff to get done around the house if I had more hours to work.
Julie:)
You are not alone and I don't think you are crazy. I do no that it feels like you are crazy though. I finally a couple years back went on a HRT after trying a few different AD's, and it really saved me and got me back on track. I don't think they are for everyone though and have weaned off them now. You might talk with your Dr and see if there is something to help you. But keep checking in here and posting as I have found it to be VERY helpful.
Pud,
I do work part time and think it helps me a lot. On my days off I seem to not feel as good as when I have to get up and going. I am glad it is only part time though as I would feel overwhelmed with stuff to get done around the house if I had more hours to work.
Julie:)
charpo
02-13-2008, 11:26 AM
When your talking crazy, do you mean "really really losing it" Not just that you can't take it much more, but your mind isn't working the same. It going way way down in your head or something like that. Usually when I start feeling like this, it goes into a full panic attack, but now its like I don't have the energy to come. I can't explain it at all. Thanks for your help. I know everyone is going through this, but does everyone also feel that noone could really imagine the exact way you're feeling. Am I making sense?
Lynnv57
02-13-2008, 11:36 AM
I feel like my mind is not the same anymore sometimes, I keep reverting back to when the anxiety and panic and depression were bad in December. Sometimes I perceive things like I am not really here I guess you could say. I go back to before all this happened to analyze what I am feeling now. The more I try the more I get mad for being this way. As you said it is difficult to explain.
I have been feeling better since Amberen I think(still too soon) so maybe the way I am feeling is correct but after all you go through in the past it doesn't seem right. Do you feel this too?
(qoute)It going way way down in your head or something like that.
I feel like this soemtimes but I felt it more in the past. Want so much to get inside my head to fix it if at all possible. Again..hard to explain.
Lynn
I have been feeling better since Amberen I think(still too soon) so maybe the way I am feeling is correct but after all you go through in the past it doesn't seem right. Do you feel this too?
(qoute)It going way way down in your head or something like that.
I feel like this soemtimes but I felt it more in the past. Want so much to get inside my head to fix it if at all possible. Again..hard to explain.
Lynn
I C Hot
02-13-2008, 11:41 AM
Well for me when I was at my worst, I felt like I was not myself and thought I was the only one that felt like I was truly losing it. I did get to a point that I really could not take it anymore, that is when I went on HRT. I at least now no what some of the menopause symptoms are and that I am not alone. It can be a Roller Coaster ride, but I want off this ride.
Julie:)
Julie:)
Lynnv57
02-13-2008, 12:53 PM
You know how the computers have a RESTORE POINT. I want to find my RESTORE POINT and bring it back to before Dec 2007 when all this began!!!! I also want off this Roller Coaster Ride. I don't even like Roller Coasters!
Lynn
Lynn
pud
02-13-2008, 02:13 PM
Hi All,
Thanks for your posts. I agree this board is a God-send, it has made me realise I'm not alone in these awful menopause symptoms and not the only one feeling like I'm going mad and wanting to "get inside my head" and sort it out (I commented to some friends the other day I felt like a good crack on the head is what is needed for me!).
Not felt too bad late yesterday and today, and actually enjoyed work for the first time in ages, but still feel very fragile. I understand about, when feeling okay, we are so close to past suffering that somehow it doesn't feel right feeling good, and then the feelings can all come back. I think only time and many more good experiences will banish this, but we need to take it VERY slowly and look after ourselves a bit.
I have decided not to make any major career changes just for the moment, as I don't think I'm rational enough to make these decisions just now. When I feel on a more even keel, then I will review things. At the moment my mind races from one decision to another, I can't work out what's right, any ideas, either changing jobs/not changing/what type of career can send me into a panic/anxiety, so it's not worth it. I need to take my time and concentrate on getting well again first.
Just spoke to a friend on the phone, she said she remembers her mum sobbing all the time during the menopause, and asking her dad what was wrong. She said at the time she didn't understand, but boy oh boy, do we understand now!!!!!!
Keep healing ladies.
Pud
x
Thanks for your posts. I agree this board is a God-send, it has made me realise I'm not alone in these awful menopause symptoms and not the only one feeling like I'm going mad and wanting to "get inside my head" and sort it out (I commented to some friends the other day I felt like a good crack on the head is what is needed for me!).
Not felt too bad late yesterday and today, and actually enjoyed work for the first time in ages, but still feel very fragile. I understand about, when feeling okay, we are so close to past suffering that somehow it doesn't feel right feeling good, and then the feelings can all come back. I think only time and many more good experiences will banish this, but we need to take it VERY slowly and look after ourselves a bit.
I have decided not to make any major career changes just for the moment, as I don't think I'm rational enough to make these decisions just now. When I feel on a more even keel, then I will review things. At the moment my mind races from one decision to another, I can't work out what's right, any ideas, either changing jobs/not changing/what type of career can send me into a panic/anxiety, so it's not worth it. I need to take my time and concentrate on getting well again first.
Just spoke to a friend on the phone, she said she remembers her mum sobbing all the time during the menopause, and asking her dad what was wrong. She said at the time she didn't understand, but boy oh boy, do we understand now!!!!!!
Keep healing ladies.
Pud
x
Lynnv57
02-13-2008, 03:59 PM
I was talking to two friends of mine about these feelings. She mentioned that it is called "Disassociation". Feelings of unreality. Look it up.
This morning was okay for me but I still tried to analyze what I was feeling at the moment. Now I feel fine. I seem to dwell on the feelings alot when I should just let them take their course for the day. If I dwell on them too much I begin to feel really bad, anxiety especially.
Lynn
This morning was okay for me but I still tried to analyze what I was feeling at the moment. Now I feel fine. I seem to dwell on the feelings alot when I should just let them take their course for the day. If I dwell on them too much I begin to feel really bad, anxiety especially.
Lynn
kazy68
02-13-2008, 04:44 PM
Hi all,
Well i have not been feeling to bad with anxiety for a while thank the lord that is the most auful thing i have ever had to go through, including giving birth to 3 children, i just used to sit there and panic for no reason then go into hysterics my family thought i had gone mad, lets hope it does not rear its ugly head soon.
At the moment i have feelings as if i cant breath and get out of breath very easily, my back across the top by my shoulders down to under neath my shoulder blades is agony, and i think this is why i feel as though i am short of breath i have had this before and it usually lasts from a few days to a few weeks, i have had it now for 3 days i do hope it goes away soon it brings me right down even simple chores like making the bed taking the washing up stairs ect leave me in agony with my back and a little short of breath.
I am also getting the warm feeling you know the one where one part of the body goes hot for no reason, well for me it is the left side of my face and round my ear it is realy weird but thankfully not painfull i cant stand pain any more, i used to have a good pain threshold but now NO WAY i cant stand it.
I have been taking menocalm now for nearly 2 weeks and i realy do feel different, i feel better in myself, more relaxed and calmer, which is good for all of us, i have even felt like doing the house work and cooking meals which i havent felt like doing in a long time, hubby loves it thinks i have gone mad lol, but it feels great to be on top of things and "almost" back to normal, the testing point is coming up though, i am due a period in a week so we will see if i still feel the same then or if i topple over and go back the other way.
Until next time ladies,
chin up, keep going
Well i have not been feeling to bad with anxiety for a while thank the lord that is the most auful thing i have ever had to go through, including giving birth to 3 children, i just used to sit there and panic for no reason then go into hysterics my family thought i had gone mad, lets hope it does not rear its ugly head soon.
At the moment i have feelings as if i cant breath and get out of breath very easily, my back across the top by my shoulders down to under neath my shoulder blades is agony, and i think this is why i feel as though i am short of breath i have had this before and it usually lasts from a few days to a few weeks, i have had it now for 3 days i do hope it goes away soon it brings me right down even simple chores like making the bed taking the washing up stairs ect leave me in agony with my back and a little short of breath.
I am also getting the warm feeling you know the one where one part of the body goes hot for no reason, well for me it is the left side of my face and round my ear it is realy weird but thankfully not painfull i cant stand pain any more, i used to have a good pain threshold but now NO WAY i cant stand it.
I have been taking menocalm now for nearly 2 weeks and i realy do feel different, i feel better in myself, more relaxed and calmer, which is good for all of us, i have even felt like doing the house work and cooking meals which i havent felt like doing in a long time, hubby loves it thinks i have gone mad lol, but it feels great to be on top of things and "almost" back to normal, the testing point is coming up though, i am due a period in a week so we will see if i still feel the same then or if i topple over and go back the other way.
Until next time ladies,
chin up, keep going
Lynnv57
02-13-2008, 07:49 PM
I have not had anxiety in some time. Just little bouts at times but thank god no panic attacks. I have been taking Amberen for almost a week now and I too feel better, more like myself again.
We all need to feel like ourselves again!
Lynn
We all need to feel like ourselves again!
Lynn
pud
02-14-2008, 02:28 PM
Hi,
Interesting looking at your posts - I know what you mean by dwelling on the anxiety. I have a couple of good days, then a really bad one, major anxiety for most of the day. Today has been one of those. It's worse when I'm at home alone for a long time, nothing to distract me, though I am now getting a little more motivated to do the housework, cook, etc. Before the anti-depressants, I couldn't even be bothered with this. It's so hard this business, I just wish I could understand what's going on. If someone would just come along and tell me I was either suffering from anxiety/depression, or that plus my hormones totally out of sync, or just the hormones at fault, or all of it plus the psychological side now, at least I would KNOW what was wrong! Maybe I am just bored and lonely, I have a brain, and am not using it. More working in company possibly help? Tho' that's hard now I've got in this awful spiral, Catch 22 situation. Am back to doc's on Monday for results of blood tests. Crazy, but I am sort of hoping there IS something wrong, so it would explain all of this business!
By the way, is Amberen hrt? I've seen it mentioned a few times on this board.
Pud
I have not had anxiety in some time. Just little bouts at times but thank god no panic attacks. I have been taking Amberen for almost a week now and I too feel better, more like myself again.
We all need to feel like ourselves again!
Lynn
Interesting looking at your posts - I know what you mean by dwelling on the anxiety. I have a couple of good days, then a really bad one, major anxiety for most of the day. Today has been one of those. It's worse when I'm at home alone for a long time, nothing to distract me, though I am now getting a little more motivated to do the housework, cook, etc. Before the anti-depressants, I couldn't even be bothered with this. It's so hard this business, I just wish I could understand what's going on. If someone would just come along and tell me I was either suffering from anxiety/depression, or that plus my hormones totally out of sync, or just the hormones at fault, or all of it plus the psychological side now, at least I would KNOW what was wrong! Maybe I am just bored and lonely, I have a brain, and am not using it. More working in company possibly help? Tho' that's hard now I've got in this awful spiral, Catch 22 situation. Am back to doc's on Monday for results of blood tests. Crazy, but I am sort of hoping there IS something wrong, so it would explain all of this business!
By the way, is Amberen hrt? I've seen it mentioned a few times on this board.
Pud
I have not had anxiety in some time. Just little bouts at times but thank god no panic attacks. I have been taking Amberen for almost a week now and I too feel better, more like myself again.
We all need to feel like ourselves again!
Lynn
Laye
02-14-2008, 03:20 PM
I know what you mean about the anxiety. I never know when it's going to strike. I have to always make sure I have a bottle of water with me in the car. I sometimes get this urge that I need to drink something in order to feel better.
I could be OK one minute and then in full panic mode the next. I think I've been going through this for years. They have seemed to ease up a bit. There was a period a couple of years ago when I was getting them all the time. I think that most of my most annoying symptoms have just presented themselves over the last 6 months or so.
All I know is the way I'm feeling is affecting my job now. It's really making it difficult for me to be at work. I work with kids and I'm always running around. I wish I had a desk job where I could just sit all day. I'm miserable and nothing is helping me at the moment.
I am going to start the pill this Sunday. I hope it gives me some relief!!
I could be OK one minute and then in full panic mode the next. I think I've been going through this for years. They have seemed to ease up a bit. There was a period a couple of years ago when I was getting them all the time. I think that most of my most annoying symptoms have just presented themselves over the last 6 months or so.
All I know is the way I'm feeling is affecting my job now. It's really making it difficult for me to be at work. I work with kids and I'm always running around. I wish I had a desk job where I could just sit all day. I'm miserable and nothing is helping me at the moment.
I am going to start the pill this Sunday. I hope it gives me some relief!!
Lynnv57
02-14-2008, 03:35 PM
Amberen is not HRT. I have had no side affects. <removed> No drugs involved. Someone I work with is going to try it also. I am feeling better each and everyday. No anxiety/panic/depression so far. I can think clearer. I feel more like myself. more calmer. I really feel that Amberen is working for me. I am one not to take medications if I do not need to especially HRT.
I started with a womens formula multi vitamin and herb combination which seemed to help somewhat. I now am taking Amberen. Tomorrow(Friday will be my 8th day. It can take up to 30 days to work for some.
Lynn
I started with a womens formula multi vitamin and herb combination which seemed to help somewhat. I now am taking Amberen. Tomorrow(Friday will be my 8th day. It can take up to 30 days to work for some.
Lynn
mod-anon
02-15-2008, 05:50 AM
Please share information in your own words. Please do not direct members to do searches outside of Healthboards. Members come here for support and advice, not to be told to go elsewhere to find answers.
mod-anon
02-24-2008, 02:45 AM
pud, I am moving some posts and starting a new thread for your topic "having problems with hrt".
Peacesoul
04-10-2008, 09:17 AM
I can't believe I found this thread!!!!!
I'm 41 years old and for the last year on and off my PMS has been out of control.
I have feelings like I was going crazy. My night sweats and just over all hot flashes are intense. My anxiety and feelings of doom are off the charts. To the point where I can barely leave the house.
I do have lyme disease and was/am being treated for it so I thought this was lyme related, but deep down I felt I was expereincing perimenopause.
The actual day I start my period, I feel shakey, anxious like crazy, sweating and total brain fog. I thought it was just typical PMS, But now after finding this thread and reading up on it, I see that what this is is permenopause
I'm SO HAPPY I know I'm not nuts
Now my question, How the heck do I make it go away or control it.
I can handle the sweats, the insomnia and even the depression, but I cannot deal with the anxiety.
I exercise a lot so don't need more, so what else can I do?! Should I take progesterone cream?
I'm 41 years old and for the last year on and off my PMS has been out of control.
I have feelings like I was going crazy. My night sweats and just over all hot flashes are intense. My anxiety and feelings of doom are off the charts. To the point where I can barely leave the house.
I do have lyme disease and was/am being treated for it so I thought this was lyme related, but deep down I felt I was expereincing perimenopause.
The actual day I start my period, I feel shakey, anxious like crazy, sweating and total brain fog. I thought it was just typical PMS, But now after finding this thread and reading up on it, I see that what this is is permenopause
I'm SO HAPPY I know I'm not nuts
Now my question, How the heck do I make it go away or control it.
I can handle the sweats, the insomnia and even the depression, but I cannot deal with the anxiety.
I exercise a lot so don't need more, so what else can I do?! Should I take progesterone cream?
Peacesoul
04-10-2008, 09:19 AM
I know what you mean about the anxiety. I never know when it's going to strike. I have to always make sure I have a bottle of water with me in the car. I sometimes get this urge that I need to drink something in order to feel better.
I could be OK one minute and then in full panic mode the next. I think I've been going through this for years. They have seemed to ease up a bit. There was a period a couple of years ago when I was getting them all the time. I think that most of my most annoying symptoms have just presented themselves over the last 6 months or so.
All I know is the way I'm feeling is affecting my job now. It's really making it difficult for me to be at work. I work with kids and I'm always running around. I wish I had a desk job where I could just sit all day. I'm miserable and nothing is helping me at the moment.
I am going to start the pill this Sunday. I hope it gives me some relief!!
This is ME to a "T".
I always have to have water with me. When I drink I feel someone better or maybe it just distracts me,
But my state is now effecting my job, my relationships and just over-all life
How did this pill work for you?
I could be OK one minute and then in full panic mode the next. I think I've been going through this for years. They have seemed to ease up a bit. There was a period a couple of years ago when I was getting them all the time. I think that most of my most annoying symptoms have just presented themselves over the last 6 months or so.
All I know is the way I'm feeling is affecting my job now. It's really making it difficult for me to be at work. I work with kids and I'm always running around. I wish I had a desk job where I could just sit all day. I'm miserable and nothing is helping me at the moment.
I am going to start the pill this Sunday. I hope it gives me some relief!!
This is ME to a "T".
I always have to have water with me. When I drink I feel someone better or maybe it just distracts me,
But my state is now effecting my job, my relationships and just over-all life
How did this pill work for you?
MYSISSYGIRLS
04-10-2008, 11:52 AM
I have spent last hour or so reading this thread. It is so helpful and reassuring. I am just starting my anti d and the anxiety has went through the roof. Plus the crazy weird thoughts that i can so relate to these post. I am afraid of being alone for fear that i will go completely mad, then when im not alone I am so nervous and my husband just isnt getting it. He knows i started anti d last friday and everyday he asked me r u better. Like he is waiting for me to get over the flu. I want to get better and be me so bad. For goodness sake i am sleeping with my sons teddy bear on nights just for something to hold on to when the panic hits. How crazy is that. And Im sure my 12 year old wonders why mom is sleeping with his bear. My older kids have been on there own for while and out of the house just have 12 yr old son at home but in Feb I started have terrible empty nest syndrome. I have sit and cried and feel like them were the best years of my life when all 4 kids were home and it was busy and i just loved them all being around. But they have been gone awhile and it never affected me like this before.
My 26 yr old daughter is being so supportive of me during this time and is really encouraging me to keep with the paxil , because i am ready to give up with the extra anxiety. Thank God for her, the rest of my kids are boys and they are not understanding mom at all right now. Well Im not understanding myself much either to think of it.
But I just wanted to say that I feel like Im barely hanging on from moment to moment and this board , espcially this thread is a Godsend, it truly means the world to know that I am not alone and I will get through it. I find myself needing encouragement throughout the day that i will b ok and I come here alot and just read the post and it calms me a bit.
So Thank you all for sharing your experiences.
tami
My 26 yr old daughter is being so supportive of me during this time and is really encouraging me to keep with the paxil , because i am ready to give up with the extra anxiety. Thank God for her, the rest of my kids are boys and they are not understanding mom at all right now. Well Im not understanding myself much either to think of it.
But I just wanted to say that I feel like Im barely hanging on from moment to moment and this board , espcially this thread is a Godsend, it truly means the world to know that I am not alone and I will get through it. I find myself needing encouragement throughout the day that i will b ok and I come here alot and just read the post and it calms me a bit.
So Thank you all for sharing your experiences.
tami
Laye
04-10-2008, 08:23 PM
Well..I went on birth control pills for one month and stopped because they were making me feel even more insane. Crying over anything..fat..bloated non-stop. I couldn't take it. Maybe I needed to give them a longer period of time to work. But I could not handle the side effects. Now, it's just trying to get through each day with my bladder being out-of-control and the non-stop depression. I just feel hopeless and lethargic all day. I come home from work and I have no motivation whatsover. It's affecting my life is such a negative way. Plus, I'm suspicious of people all the time. I think everyone is out to get me or is lying to me or is trying to mess with my mind. I'm isolating. I just want to be left alone. It's all bad. All of it. And I can't seem to shake it...ever. And..yes I must have a bottle of water or something to drink with me at all times.
I can't imagine having to deal with this for years on end. I'm only 45.
I can't imagine having to deal with this for years on end. I'm only 45.
cmpgirl
04-10-2008, 09:40 PM
Hey Ladies: I know some people don't really like to take meds, but I started having the anxiety about a year ago. I tried to handle it myself, but it just kept getting worse. I was at a point where I was having full blown panic attacks just sitting wathing TV at night with my hubby.
I finally bit the bullet and made an appointment with a Psychiatrist and he ended up prescribing 1/2mg Xanax for me, up to 2 times per day. It's actually a pretty low dose, but it has certainly made a huge difference in my life.
There is a second component to this as well, and that is the therapy. I have many people in my life who I can talk to openly and who are very supportive of me, but for some reason, talking with someone who is an objective third party is completely different. It has been as important as the medication in keeping me on an even keel. I have friends who have taken anti-anxiety meds that were prescribed by their family physician but have not had the therapy component along with it. They have not had the success in dealing with the anxiety that I have.
I started out seeing him once a week and now see him only evry 3-4 weeks.
He has taught me how to recognize what potentially triggers the anxiety and how to know when the meds are necessary or if I can calm myself without them.
I know that what works for one person doesn't always work for another, but thought I'd share with you, how I'm dealing with this part of the peri.
I hope this was helpful. Best of luck to you and God Bless, cmpgirl
I finally bit the bullet and made an appointment with a Psychiatrist and he ended up prescribing 1/2mg Xanax for me, up to 2 times per day. It's actually a pretty low dose, but it has certainly made a huge difference in my life.
There is a second component to this as well, and that is the therapy. I have many people in my life who I can talk to openly and who are very supportive of me, but for some reason, talking with someone who is an objective third party is completely different. It has been as important as the medication in keeping me on an even keel. I have friends who have taken anti-anxiety meds that were prescribed by their family physician but have not had the therapy component along with it. They have not had the success in dealing with the anxiety that I have.
I started out seeing him once a week and now see him only evry 3-4 weeks.
He has taught me how to recognize what potentially triggers the anxiety and how to know when the meds are necessary or if I can calm myself without them.
I know that what works for one person doesn't always work for another, but thought I'd share with you, how I'm dealing with this part of the peri.
I hope this was helpful. Best of luck to you and God Bless, cmpgirl
USgirl
04-18-2008, 08:29 AM
I can't believe I found this thread!!!!!
I'm 41 years old and for the last year on and off my PMS has been out of control.
I have feelings like I was going crazy. My night sweats and just over all hot flashes are intense. My anxiety and feelings of doom are off the charts. To the point where I can barely leave the house.
I do have lyme disease and was/am being treated for it so I thought this was lyme related, but deep down I felt I was expereincing perimenopause.
The actual day I start my period, I feel shakey, anxious like crazy, sweating and total brain fog. I thought it was just typical PMS, But now after finding this thread and reading up on it, I see that what this is is permenopause
I'm SO HAPPY I know I'm not nuts
Now my question, How the heck do I make it go away or control it.
I can handle the sweats, the insomnia and even the depression, but I cannot deal with the anxiety.
I exercise a lot so don't need more, so what else can I do?! Should I take progesterone cream?
hello, you may need need some anxiety medication. I can't live without mine. I'm pretty sure I'm starting menopause and I'm going to get tested. I think my doctors in the past just assumed it was my bi-polar/depression, but the more I read and learn, it's menopause! I don't know if I'm up to this roller coaster ride after dealing with my bi-polar/depression and anxiety!! The more I read from everyone on here, I'm greatful I'm not alone!!! Thank you
I'm 41 years old and for the last year on and off my PMS has been out of control.
I have feelings like I was going crazy. My night sweats and just over all hot flashes are intense. My anxiety and feelings of doom are off the charts. To the point where I can barely leave the house.
I do have lyme disease and was/am being treated for it so I thought this was lyme related, but deep down I felt I was expereincing perimenopause.
The actual day I start my period, I feel shakey, anxious like crazy, sweating and total brain fog. I thought it was just typical PMS, But now after finding this thread and reading up on it, I see that what this is is permenopause
I'm SO HAPPY I know I'm not nuts
Now my question, How the heck do I make it go away or control it.
I can handle the sweats, the insomnia and even the depression, but I cannot deal with the anxiety.
I exercise a lot so don't need more, so what else can I do?! Should I take progesterone cream?
hello, you may need need some anxiety medication. I can't live without mine. I'm pretty sure I'm starting menopause and I'm going to get tested. I think my doctors in the past just assumed it was my bi-polar/depression, but the more I read and learn, it's menopause! I don't know if I'm up to this roller coaster ride after dealing with my bi-polar/depression and anxiety!! The more I read from everyone on here, I'm greatful I'm not alone!!! Thank you
mod-anon
04-19-2008, 01:15 AM
JCZgirl,
I have moved your post and started a new thread for you:
"Hot and cold at the same time?"
I have moved your post and started a new thread for you:
"Hot and cold at the same time?"