sammyo1
01-24-2008, 11:11 AM
I have been seeing my Rehab. doc, who has been in charge of my meds. I am due for surgery Jan. 31. Last visit we went over my meds which are oxy.20mg every 12hrs & percocet for break through, I told him I only wanted to take the oxy at night to help me get up & moving in the morning, that it was to strong during the day & could I just take the perocet during the day, which is in the morning & afternoon with oxy for bedtime, he said that was fine. Then told me I could only have one doc write my scripts for me, I said that was fine. Also told me to come back in that he would get me in if needed before surgery, now the office called & said he would not write anymore scripts for the oxy, which I am going to run out in the next two day, & he could not get me in. I can't even get out of bed in the morning unless I take the oxy at night. I have proved to him over & over that I take as little as possable. I am so upset, I am not seeking drugs here, just want to make it till surgery. I am not going to be able to get to work now. I have cried all morning. I ask if I can't get to work if he would even write me a note, the receptionist said I would have to call back she does not know. I just can't believe it, I had so much faith in this doc. & he promised to help me control this pain till surgery. Now what do I do? I can't take any extra meds because of surgery next week. What a mess. I so upset, I will get no sleep & not be able to move in the morning. I have even showed him my meds to prove I am responsable. Any clue why he would do this? I have only seen the surgeon one time & doubt he will do anything for me. I just can't believe it. to be left out in the cold is so unfair. He should have told me last visit but he did not. this is a nightmare. Any suggestions? Sammy
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painaway
01-24-2008, 12:19 PM
Sammy...I am so sorry to hear that you were treated like this! Did he just call out of the blue, or did something happen to trigger this call? Something had to change (in my opinion) to make him go from "writing" to "not writing" all of the sudden. Will he write for more Percocet? Praying for you. :(
sammyo1
01-24-2008, 01:14 PM
I called the office to ask for a refill of oxy & with a surgery date, I explained that I was going to run out a few days before surgery & even offered to bring in my meds, I know he does not dealing with narcotics. the only thing I can think of is he knows I may not be returning to him after surgery so why bother to help me until then, which he claimed he would do. He made it clear I could only get my pain meds through him. I am so upset, I guess money is all that matters. Like I said I have always showed him I don't over do the pain meds & have done everything he has requested, he even acknowledged he realized I tried to handle the pain with the the least amount of meds. I am losing my faith in doctors. I was blown away & felt like they were treating me as a drug seeker. Now here lies the problem when the pain is that bad my heartrate kicks into high gear & the percocet does not control the pain during the night or upon wakening. I can't even get my pants down to go to the bathroom I just lay there with dryheaves. What a mess. On top of that who did he think was going to ween me off after surgery, the surgeon has not prescribed these meds for me. Now I have to find out how to go about that. Great. I don't need this right before surgery. I am beyond furious at this point. I thought he trusted me, & the hospital said I could take my pain meds for this week but nothing else, no over the counter meds. My husband thinks I should call my primarys office since they orginally dealt with this problem & know that I have been under his care. I have to figure something out today. wish me luck, Sammy
Fabrashamx
01-24-2008, 01:17 PM
First, think hard if there was anything from even months ago that could have popped up, I had a referral to a terrible doctor, his office was dirty, he spoke english with such a strong accent, I was having to ask him to repeat himself over and over, and he was getting mad at me.
He gave me a script for something, vicodin I think, but the next day I came to my senses and called the insurance and said I could not see this guy, he was too weird. They referred me to the doc I wound up being with for 12 years, but the creepy doc billed my insurance for an extensive physical, pfft, all he did was point at a scar on my arm I got when I was 9 years old and say things I couldnt understand. He never even took my blood pressure.
Well, Insurance wouldnt pay him all he wanted, so he found out where my new good doctor was and started calling demanding in broken english they give him a referral as a specialist so he could re bill! They were furious at me, thought I was doctor shopping, it took some fast talking while crying and begging for me not to be kicked out of the office, and I had never even heard of good doctor yet the day I saw bad doctor! Grrr.
So think if there is anything weird like that, or dental, that could have made him mad, otherwise, assume he has a lot of patients, he forgot he okayed you to have more percs than oxys, and you need to see him to remind him, go to the office and tell them you will sit and wait until he has a spare 10 minutes to speak to you. I have done this, its not pleasant, but sometimes it is the only way to get what you were promised.
Good luck and please let us know what happens!
Hang in there, Sammy!
~Fabby
He gave me a script for something, vicodin I think, but the next day I came to my senses and called the insurance and said I could not see this guy, he was too weird. They referred me to the doc I wound up being with for 12 years, but the creepy doc billed my insurance for an extensive physical, pfft, all he did was point at a scar on my arm I got when I was 9 years old and say things I couldnt understand. He never even took my blood pressure.
Well, Insurance wouldnt pay him all he wanted, so he found out where my new good doctor was and started calling demanding in broken english they give him a referral as a specialist so he could re bill! They were furious at me, thought I was doctor shopping, it took some fast talking while crying and begging for me not to be kicked out of the office, and I had never even heard of good doctor yet the day I saw bad doctor! Grrr.
So think if there is anything weird like that, or dental, that could have made him mad, otherwise, assume he has a lot of patients, he forgot he okayed you to have more percs than oxys, and you need to see him to remind him, go to the office and tell them you will sit and wait until he has a spare 10 minutes to speak to you. I have done this, its not pleasant, but sometimes it is the only way to get what you were promised.
Good luck and please let us know what happens!
Hang in there, Sammy!
~Fabby
ms1
01-24-2008, 01:34 PM
Here's my 2 cents worth; call your surgeon and tell him. he may write the script or at least initiate communication with the other doctor. perhaps cooperatively they can decide the best course of action or clarify the situation. second, if the problem is not resolved to your satisfaction, consider a formal complaint to state board who licenses physicians in your state. if you feel that things were grossly mishandled and you suffered from the mishandling of your care then seeking legal council to represent your interests in court might be an option. of course the latter 2 options won't help you immediately but may serve to prevent someone else from enduring the same dilemma as yourself. i'm not a lawyer or doctor. these are merely my initial thoughts of recourse / remedy...... good luck and i admire your self discipline in managing your medication as prescribed. it is difficult for many of us. you are to be commended (pat on back). .... ms1.
BrittleBones
01-24-2008, 02:47 PM
Hi Sammy - I'm confused (so what else is new, eh?) Did you ask the secretary/nurse why he wouldn't refill your medication? Instead of trying to guess what he is thinking, why didn't you ask her? If you did - then what did she say? Sorry if I'm missing something here. Memere (K'Mac)
sammyo1
01-24-2008, 03:16 PM
I did indeed tell the receptionist that I was confused, that the doctor & I had went over the meds in the last visit. why would he be upset or not prescribe the oxy when I was taking less then what he orginally told me to take? one at bedtime. with 1 to 2 percocets for the whole day, I don't know does that sound like to much? He had said to take the per. for breakthrough pain control. I can think of nothing at all that would cause this & his timing could not be worse with no over the counter meds allowed this week. the receptionist at that office is not pleasant to begin with so when I told her I did not understand she just blew me off. I swear there is no winning, what happened to the oath doctors take "do no harm". I am sorry but I have done everything I can to manage with the least amount of meds & thanked him for his trust & care. I am going to call my primarys office & try to get in & see if they will take over for the next week. At this point I am feeling depressed & sick to my stomach at the thought of having to deal with another doctor over meds. I can only do my best to show I don't abuse my meds. I feel like this is all a nightmare & now am worried sick about how will I be treated if the surgery is not a success. Crazy. I swear I am beginning to think you should carry a tape recorder with you, but they don't allow that either. Thanks, Sammy
Arthr Itis
01-24-2008, 03:37 PM
Sammy. I'm so sorry you are being put through this crap. I'm with your husband, call your primary. Until then I would try to stretch your oxy as far as possible. You might also concider going to the ER if you run out. This is serious stuff as I'm sure you know. I would also keep the legal action in the back of my mind. What this "doctor" has done is crimminal!
Good luck Sammy. You are in my prayers!
Fred
Good luck Sammy. You are in my prayers!
Fred
Fabrashamx
01-24-2008, 04:12 PM
As long as there was no possible reason for him to retract what he said he would do, I would figure he forgot, a lot of doctors do that, then when they see the patient in question, and actually look at your chart:mad: they remember.
I would go to his office and offer to sit and wait until he could give you 10 minutes, I would be very polite, but very firm, that there must be a misunderstanding, and you have no choice but to make sure it gets cleared up before your surgery. If they try and shoo you off, just say, all I need is 10 minutes, this is not how I remember his instructions, and if they have changed, or I misunderstood (even though we know you didnt) then I have got to know what I should do.
At that point, if his office refuses to help, I would go to the GP for help and ask him to help you convey to the other doctor that you were only trying to follow instructions, and his front office staff stopped you from obtaining your needed health care information.
Be polite, soft spoken, but adamant. Good luck, I am so sorry you are having to deal with this, I hate the twilight zone days in PM where you think you must be out of your own loop, but I guarantee the doctor forgot and his staff is blocking you from resolving it.
HTH, Fabby :angel:
I would go to his office and offer to sit and wait until he could give you 10 minutes, I would be very polite, but very firm, that there must be a misunderstanding, and you have no choice but to make sure it gets cleared up before your surgery. If they try and shoo you off, just say, all I need is 10 minutes, this is not how I remember his instructions, and if they have changed, or I misunderstood (even though we know you didnt) then I have got to know what I should do.
At that point, if his office refuses to help, I would go to the GP for help and ask him to help you convey to the other doctor that you were only trying to follow instructions, and his front office staff stopped you from obtaining your needed health care information.
Be polite, soft spoken, but adamant. Good luck, I am so sorry you are having to deal with this, I hate the twilight zone days in PM where you think you must be out of your own loop, but I guarantee the doctor forgot and his staff is blocking you from resolving it.
HTH, Fabby :angel:
sammyo1
01-24-2008, 04:42 PM
Boy what would I do with out all of you, I am going to my primarys office tommorrow, I am taking my husband with me, after all he is the one who is up all night with me when I don't have the pain control.
I have not asked any other doc. for anything for pain. Once again he wanted me on the oxy every 12 hrs. I know he was not happy about having to take both oxy & perc but he said it was ok, & also ok to take the oxy only at night. I was honest & up front and told him I took the perc for day & never took more then 2 aday. Once again the fill dates show that. His office said he just wanted me on the oxy until it ran out. Well where does that leave me? Never did he tell me that. I am not even going to try to figure it out, I have been honest & very careful with the meds, but I do not appreciate the way he handled it, I can't believe you feel like you have to beg for pain control, it is down right embarrassing. I know in the future I will run into problems because of my test results & I am sorry that he could not follow thru with one more week of pain control because I would have returned to him in the future, no way now. I put alot of trust in him & really felt lucky to have him treating me, what a fool. I will have to have faith my primarys office will trust me, I don't know how they will react when one doc refuses to fill a med. I will take my meds in to show it has been alot longer then a month since any refills. My heart goes out to every single on of you who have to deal with this, it can be degrading, terrable to made to feel like a drug seeker instead of someone just trying to manage their pain the best they can. Sammy
ps this doc is only in my area once aweek, although his receptionist is in on thursdays for a few hrs, so even if I wanted to I could not go to his other office, I can barely drive a few miles anymore, he is well aware of that.
I have not asked any other doc. for anything for pain. Once again he wanted me on the oxy every 12 hrs. I know he was not happy about having to take both oxy & perc but he said it was ok, & also ok to take the oxy only at night. I was honest & up front and told him I took the perc for day & never took more then 2 aday. Once again the fill dates show that. His office said he just wanted me on the oxy until it ran out. Well where does that leave me? Never did he tell me that. I am not even going to try to figure it out, I have been honest & very careful with the meds, but I do not appreciate the way he handled it, I can't believe you feel like you have to beg for pain control, it is down right embarrassing. I know in the future I will run into problems because of my test results & I am sorry that he could not follow thru with one more week of pain control because I would have returned to him in the future, no way now. I put alot of trust in him & really felt lucky to have him treating me, what a fool. I will have to have faith my primarys office will trust me, I don't know how they will react when one doc refuses to fill a med. I will take my meds in to show it has been alot longer then a month since any refills. My heart goes out to every single on of you who have to deal with this, it can be degrading, terrable to made to feel like a drug seeker instead of someone just trying to manage their pain the best they can. Sammy
ps this doc is only in my area once aweek, although his receptionist is in on thursdays for a few hrs, so even if I wanted to I could not go to his other office, I can barely drive a few miles anymore, he is well aware of that.
HappyFlower
01-24-2008, 06:51 PM
I don't have time to read all the reply right now so sorry if this is a repeat.
I would give it one more try...stress that HE said HE would give you more if needed and you are unable to function. Even if he only gives you a total of 10 Oxys...just anything.
If that doesn't work...since you said you don't plan on seeing him after the surgery...find another doc. And switch all pain meds to that doc.
Good luck and good luck with the surgery.
I would give it one more try...stress that HE said HE would give you more if needed and you are unable to function. Even if he only gives you a total of 10 Oxys...just anything.
If that doesn't work...since you said you don't plan on seeing him after the surgery...find another doc. And switch all pain meds to that doc.
Good luck and good luck with the surgery.
Aver00
01-24-2008, 11:09 PM
Fabby is right - when you deal with these moat monsters at the doctors office you have to stay cool - some of them smell that you are upset and start pushing your buttons - speak softly. state the facts of your problem, when your button gets pushed remain nice and just restate what you need
bless your heart, this just stinks Love and Peace Aver
bless your heart, this just stinks Love and Peace Aver
Fabrashamx
01-24-2008, 11:25 PM
LMAO @ 'moat monsters'. thats just too perfect!:D
painaway
01-24-2008, 11:58 PM
Sammy...This WILL get resolved somehow, so try not to let it stress you out (I know, easy for ME to say, right?). No really, you have a VERY legitimate and well-documented pain condition, and honestly, I'm shocked that you're on such a low dose of both meds! Twice a day of Percs and once at night of Oxy is NOT much medicine, compared to lots of other pain patients with severe ailments like yours. And you're so right, girl...you SHOULD NOT have to beg for relief!! :mad: That just lights a fire under my rear-end!!
SO...get up in the morning and put on your most pitiful face, and head to the GP with your dearly beloved! That rehab. doc doesn't deserve to see you, and he sure doesn't deserve another RED CENT from you!! Gosh, when you talked about not even being able to pull your pants down to go to the bathroom and laying there in dry heaves, my heart just broke for you. :( I guarantee you, you'll feel better this time tomorrow night, after seeing your primary! I look forward to hearing your victory story. Please know I'm praying for you...that you'll feel good, that you'll have the right words to say, and that your primary will be filled with the compassion of the Lord. Everything's going to be ok, Sammy.
(((hugs)))
SO...get up in the morning and put on your most pitiful face, and head to the GP with your dearly beloved! That rehab. doc doesn't deserve to see you, and he sure doesn't deserve another RED CENT from you!! Gosh, when you talked about not even being able to pull your pants down to go to the bathroom and laying there in dry heaves, my heart just broke for you. :( I guarantee you, you'll feel better this time tomorrow night, after seeing your primary! I look forward to hearing your victory story. Please know I'm praying for you...that you'll feel good, that you'll have the right words to say, and that your primary will be filled with the compassion of the Lord. Everything's going to be ok, Sammy.
(((hugs)))
feelbad
01-25-2008, 12:02 AM
sounds like the best possible plan right now sammy,really.just do what you are planning,seeing your primary.i would actually ask for a kind of 'emergent" type of appt by calling them first thing in the morning and hopefully getting in ASAP,espescially since you do have that surgery coming up really soon.what that doc did to you was really sick.honestly,to leave you hangin like this a week pre op.what the hell did he think here?the best thing to do when you see yuour primary is to tell him exaclty what you told us,that he just 'did' this to you without any explanation and you have absolutely no idea why.and DO bring those bottles with you just to show him.your primary is the coordinator of youre ongoing medical care,and as such he really has an obligation to help here when things hit the fan for you with any level of medical problem.i know if a doc left me in this type of situation with surgery only a week away,my primary would do something like this for me.you didn't DO anything to deserve this hon and you should not have top be left to suffer espescially with the level of pain you have going on,really sammy your shoulder pain really sounds pretty over the top compared to what mine has felt like and what you have described on the spinal board to me.this NEEDS relief so you can get the things done that you just need to before you can't post op and to just relieve your suffering.once you get to see your primary ask him to possibly give this idiot a call and find out what the heck happened(simply tell your primary you feel betrayed,angry,dissappointed,hurt and you need to know why this happened).OR,and i would just do this either way myself,i would most definitely obtain all of your medical records from this idiot to see just what he actually has in his clinic notes written on you and why he possibly decided at the last minute to bail on you like he did.there just has to be something in his notes.if there isn't THEN you and your primary need to look into this.just showing your primary may help once he sees your records if nothing pertinent was written but this *** dropped out on you,ya know what i mean?you just need to see those records he has on you either way.tell your primary at this appt that you ARE going to be obtaining your records from him just because you want to know what happened.
you just deserve some answers here sammy,really.and you need relief thru the surgery date.this realistically under the circumstances wouldn';t be too much to ask of him right now.i wouldn't even contact your surgeon for any meds since most surgeons generally do not start Rxing any level of narcotics(except under certain circumstances)until they have actually "cut you',then you become their responsibility,you know what i mean?i have just had six surgeries since 01 and not once has any of the surgeons i had actually Rxed any level of narcotics til after i had been a surgical patient.they usually rely on whoever actually referred you to them for that until they do the surgery and take over that part.i just wouldn't even waste my time on that one.just do what you are planning and hopefully your primary will just be there to help you.i do wish you luck hon.please let us know how things go,K?hang in there sammy.marcia
you just deserve some answers here sammy,really.and you need relief thru the surgery date.this realistically under the circumstances wouldn';t be too much to ask of him right now.i wouldn't even contact your surgeon for any meds since most surgeons generally do not start Rxing any level of narcotics(except under certain circumstances)until they have actually "cut you',then you become their responsibility,you know what i mean?i have just had six surgeries since 01 and not once has any of the surgeons i had actually Rxed any level of narcotics til after i had been a surgical patient.they usually rely on whoever actually referred you to them for that until they do the surgery and take over that part.i just wouldn't even waste my time on that one.just do what you are planning and hopefully your primary will just be there to help you.i do wish you luck hon.please let us know how things go,K?hang in there sammy.marcia
sammyo1
01-25-2008, 09:01 AM
well just when I thought this could not get any worse I was clenching my teeth so bad I broke the back of one of my teeth off. Yep, surgery in one week & now the dentist. Thats all I need is a toothache. Believe me when I say I have past the point of being digusted with it all. to top it all off I have a nice whopper of a headache. Thanks for all of your support. I hate the thought of having to go into my primarys office & discuss this whole pain med thing. It is terrable when you feel like you have to prove yourself. I have to get through work next week & that is hard enough to do with the pain control at night. I am feeling some major stress over the surgery since all this. I don't want to have to go through this again, I need this surgery to be a success. I told my husband I will definantly need psych. help if this surgery does not work. I feel like sending that doc. my dental bill (ha). We will see what happens at the primarys office today. wish me luck. Sammy
123dietdrpepper
01-25-2008, 09:09 AM
Sammy my heart goes out for you. So many of us struggle with this pain medicine merry-go-round and it does cause anxiety and depression without a doubt. I have a wonderful GP who is willing to prescribe to me but I really worry about what if he leaves the practice then I have to start all over. You can't help but worrying once you have been thru something like you are going thru Sammy.
I went 2 weeks without meds and I almost lost it completeley. When I went in my GP took one look at me and said, do you have a ride with you? When I said yes she walked out of the room and came back in with an injection. Then she got my hubby and we talked. I can't remember the conversation exactly except I came home with 2 bottles of prescriptions.
I believe your feelings and frustration are normal and part of the chronic pain cycle. Just remember that we are here for you.
Also, please be really careful -- it sounds like you are going thru an unlucky spell. LOL I will be lifting you up in prayer.
I went 2 weeks without meds and I almost lost it completeley. When I went in my GP took one look at me and said, do you have a ride with you? When I said yes she walked out of the room and came back in with an injection. Then she got my hubby and we talked. I can't remember the conversation exactly except I came home with 2 bottles of prescriptions.
I believe your feelings and frustration are normal and part of the chronic pain cycle. Just remember that we are here for you.
Also, please be really careful -- it sounds like you are going thru an unlucky spell. LOL I will be lifting you up in prayer.
sammyo1
01-26-2008, 09:50 AM
Thank you for all of your support. By midmorning a had a raging toothache. Thanks to my dentist got in to an oral surgeon & had it pulled. What a day!
Went into my primary & (minus one tooth) & told them what was going on. good thing I brought my meds & husband. She indeed looked at my meds & the dates, which were filled over 30 days ago & I had a script with me for percocet which I had not even filled. She said she did not understand why the other doc would not give me another script for oxy when it was clear I was very careful about taking them, said perhaps there was miscommunication but that they wanted to know why & were going to send for the records. Get this, she said I was not taking the adequete amount for pain control because I still had pain. Unbelievable, I told her with all the stigma attatched I sure did not want to overdo it, she said she does realize there is a fine line people walk when taking narcotics. funny the other doc. made it clear he only wanted me to take the amount I was taking.
My husband let her know how furious he was that this rehab. doc would let me suffer so close to surgery & also asked who was going to ween me off. The primary said it was the Rehabs. job to do so, that although they would give me enough to get through surgery they did not deal with narcotics or CP. Great the rehab doc does not even want to see me again. She said also talk to the surgeon he may help.
They do not believe that I am mentally addicted & said because I have been so careful it should not be to hard physically. We will see, everyone is jumping ship at the last minute here. With the tooth I felt like begging for motrin, the pain pills wore off quickly with the tooth. I would not want to repeat those last couple days & I am beginning to realize how hard it is for people in CP when it comes to meds. You just can't win. I am grateful that the primarys office understood but it is scary for the future. I know I have a couple conditions that are going to give me problems & I don't want to even think about going through all of this again, lets hope & pray this surgery is a success. They said they would let me know what is in the records from the rehab. Which I made clear I wanted to know. I have asked that office to forward all records to my primary more then once, they are suppose to working together & they think the patient can't be trusted. Go figure. Once again thanks for all the advice. Sammy
Went into my primary & (minus one tooth) & told them what was going on. good thing I brought my meds & husband. She indeed looked at my meds & the dates, which were filled over 30 days ago & I had a script with me for percocet which I had not even filled. She said she did not understand why the other doc would not give me another script for oxy when it was clear I was very careful about taking them, said perhaps there was miscommunication but that they wanted to know why & were going to send for the records. Get this, she said I was not taking the adequete amount for pain control because I still had pain. Unbelievable, I told her with all the stigma attatched I sure did not want to overdo it, she said she does realize there is a fine line people walk when taking narcotics. funny the other doc. made it clear he only wanted me to take the amount I was taking.
My husband let her know how furious he was that this rehab. doc would let me suffer so close to surgery & also asked who was going to ween me off. The primary said it was the Rehabs. job to do so, that although they would give me enough to get through surgery they did not deal with narcotics or CP. Great the rehab doc does not even want to see me again. She said also talk to the surgeon he may help.
They do not believe that I am mentally addicted & said because I have been so careful it should not be to hard physically. We will see, everyone is jumping ship at the last minute here. With the tooth I felt like begging for motrin, the pain pills wore off quickly with the tooth. I would not want to repeat those last couple days & I am beginning to realize how hard it is for people in CP when it comes to meds. You just can't win. I am grateful that the primarys office understood but it is scary for the future. I know I have a couple conditions that are going to give me problems & I don't want to even think about going through all of this again, lets hope & pray this surgery is a success. They said they would let me know what is in the records from the rehab. Which I made clear I wanted to know. I have asked that office to forward all records to my primary more then once, they are suppose to working together & they think the patient can't be trusted. Go figure. Once again thanks for all the advice. Sammy
painaway
01-26-2008, 11:55 AM
Sammy...SO SO glad you have a compassionate primary! I hate it that you have the tooth thing to deal with, but it's better to get it out now than deal with the pain. Your dentist was great to get you right in to a surgeon!!
Well, will your primary fix you up with oxy until surgery?? And then the surgeon will take over? Again, I'm glad you have a doc who will get to the bottom of your rehab doc's terrible behavior!! You may do better with a pain management doc (or is that the same as a rehab doc?). Please let us know if you're going to be ok until surgery with your meds. I've had you on my mind a lot lately! Praying for you, Sammy. :angel:
Well, will your primary fix you up with oxy until surgery?? And then the surgeon will take over? Again, I'm glad you have a doc who will get to the bottom of your rehab doc's terrible behavior!! You may do better with a pain management doc (or is that the same as a rehab doc?). Please let us know if you're going to be ok until surgery with your meds. I've had you on my mind a lot lately! Praying for you, Sammy. :angel:
feelbad
01-26-2008, 12:09 PM
SOOO glad you went there sammy.now at least you have the support you need here and that in and of itself is great for you espescially now.this is just what any primary doc is supposed to do,coordinate your ongoing care and making sure you don't fall thru the cracks in the system.that other doc was just appalling in what he did to you and you did NOT deserve that at all.once you actually have your surgery it will more or less be up to your surgeon to help you taper down and off these meds if that can be done(it all depends upon your overall pain issues post op).i would NOT go back to any rehab doc who did this to you.he doesn't deserve your business for one thing,and for another,he bailed on you when you needed him to just help you thru one more week til your surgery.i wouldn't touch that office again with a ten foot pole.there are other rehabs you could go to who would treat you much much better than the other idiot did.that was just plain inhumane.so i am assuming that your primary has now taken care of your pain med issue now?you never really stated that.honestly sammy,for your actual level of pain that you have described/suffered with,you really were being undermedicated.
when you actually asked this office before to forward your records,did you actually fill out the needed paper work to do just that?you have to actually sin that relaease of information before anyone can actually send your records anywhere.despite the fact that your doc is obtaining records for you,i would still obtain your own set just so you have them and can read thru everything yourself.i do this with all my docs and hospital stays and any test results.i have the very same records here that are in all my docs records.i have to do this just to try and stay informed on all my many medical issues.it does help.i am so glad this issue has been resolved for you hon,you just really didn't need this to happen right now on top of just dealing with what i know you are dealing with with that surgery this next week.hope things at least 'feel' better for you now.as usual,keep us all posted.marcia
when you actually asked this office before to forward your records,did you actually fill out the needed paper work to do just that?you have to actually sin that relaease of information before anyone can actually send your records anywhere.despite the fact that your doc is obtaining records for you,i would still obtain your own set just so you have them and can read thru everything yourself.i do this with all my docs and hospital stays and any test results.i have the very same records here that are in all my docs records.i have to do this just to try and stay informed on all my many medical issues.it does help.i am so glad this issue has been resolved for you hon,you just really didn't need this to happen right now on top of just dealing with what i know you are dealing with with that surgery this next week.hope things at least 'feel' better for you now.as usual,keep us all posted.marcia
sammyo1
01-26-2008, 12:39 PM
Marcia, hopefully I am answering your questions here, yes the primarys office gave me enough pain med to get through till surgery & said although they had no problem doing so they do not deal in CP or these meds. They indeed did see that I am very careful in fact to careful in taking them. What a mess, oral surgery & then the doc. office, boy was I glad to go to bed last night.
As for the records I signed right off the get go for everything to be sent to my priamarys office & made another request in addition to that. No I don't want to turn to the Rehabs. office to ween off these meds, but I have a feeling the surgeon, who has never prescribed me anything will request I do so. I am going to ask him for motrin in hopes it will help me with pain control & help me ween off. I will ask him though. Someone has to help. What a mess & what a difference in opinion when it comes to doctors. One saying I am not taking enough, which she said could lead to problems after surgery with pain control, & the other telling me that he did not want me upping my meds. I did come right out & tell them I do not like to have to beg for meds & I was not some drug seeker, but the rehabs. office made me feel that way. Terrable to panic at the thought of not having the right meds to control the pain. I know you understand when I tell you I really need this surgery to be successful. I don't want to have to deal with this ever again. I have cervical disk problems along with others, I am praying they do not become a major issure for along time. Counting down till surgery for us both. Sammy
As for the records I signed right off the get go for everything to be sent to my priamarys office & made another request in addition to that. No I don't want to turn to the Rehabs. office to ween off these meds, but I have a feeling the surgeon, who has never prescribed me anything will request I do so. I am going to ask him for motrin in hopes it will help me with pain control & help me ween off. I will ask him though. Someone has to help. What a mess & what a difference in opinion when it comes to doctors. One saying I am not taking enough, which she said could lead to problems after surgery with pain control, & the other telling me that he did not want me upping my meds. I did come right out & tell them I do not like to have to beg for meds & I was not some drug seeker, but the rehabs. office made me feel that way. Terrable to panic at the thought of not having the right meds to control the pain. I know you understand when I tell you I really need this surgery to be successful. I don't want to have to deal with this ever again. I have cervical disk problems along with others, I am praying they do not become a major issure for along time. Counting down till surgery for us both. Sammy
Fabrashamx
01-26-2008, 05:21 PM
Hang in there, Sammy! I am glad your regular doctor gave you enough to get through until your surgery.
The only other advice I have for you is to relax and be as kind to yourself as possible, let what happens afterward take care of itself then, if there is nothing you can do about what happens in 3 weeks, or a month, do your best to put it out of your mind for now and concentrate on getting yourself through this surgery healthy and in as little pain as possible. Once you are on the other side of the surgery, and on the road to recovery, then you can figure out where to go from there, at this point, you dont even know how long it will take you to recuperate, every person, and every surgery is different.
Take care and please let us know how you are doing.
Hugs, Fabby:)
The only other advice I have for you is to relax and be as kind to yourself as possible, let what happens afterward take care of itself then, if there is nothing you can do about what happens in 3 weeks, or a month, do your best to put it out of your mind for now and concentrate on getting yourself through this surgery healthy and in as little pain as possible. Once you are on the other side of the surgery, and on the road to recovery, then you can figure out where to go from there, at this point, you dont even know how long it will take you to recuperate, every person, and every surgery is different.
Take care and please let us know how you are doing.
Hugs, Fabby:)
skych
01-26-2008, 07:59 PM
Sammy,
I am so sorry that you had to go through all that. What the heck was that doc thinking!!! Not just the meds part, but the added stress that it all caused.
I had a tooth that had been preped to crown have a piece off a few days before surgery and thank God that tooth had already had a root canal becuase there was no way to get i not see the dentist untill after surger. Big huge scare there!! I actually had to cancel the appointment I made for after surgery because I had to much pain and ended up getting re-admitted.
I did not even see the post but did read the entire thng. I am happy to hear that your GP gave you enough to make it to surgery.
I understand that you did have another opiate aboarad but to just sbruptly put a patient through an unecessary stopping of a pain med like that is just wrong especially if they are a responsible and trustowrthy patient preping for surgery as you are.
It is common that the PM docs dont like to be in charge of immediate post op pain until the surgeon refers them back at some point. Remember I posted about that before my neck surgery. And, actually when I had my elbow surgery last march the pM did take over the post op pain but he said that was fdifferent because the surgeon was in another state and it was just to far to be going back and forth so the surgeon and the PM worked it out that way.
Enough about me. I am so glad that you have what you need to make it to the day of surgery. I have it written on my calendar. We have been through a lot together and still are great supporters of eachother.
I cant wait for you to have some relief and be on the road to recovery.
Hang in there my friend.
I am so sorry I did not see this post till a few days passed but as I think you know I had some good and some not so good news from my NS's appt yesterday. My brain is still fillled with all the what if's and I am actually laying on the couch while my Mom is gone tryong to get som rest.
Remember to treat yourself to something extrat special if you can before surgey like a spa treatment facial or some little soothing thing. We deserve tose every now and then especially whith all the stress load.
Sending you a huge HUG and much love....Chrissy
I am so sorry that you had to go through all that. What the heck was that doc thinking!!! Not just the meds part, but the added stress that it all caused.
I had a tooth that had been preped to crown have a piece off a few days before surgery and thank God that tooth had already had a root canal becuase there was no way to get i not see the dentist untill after surger. Big huge scare there!! I actually had to cancel the appointment I made for after surgery because I had to much pain and ended up getting re-admitted.
I did not even see the post but did read the entire thng. I am happy to hear that your GP gave you enough to make it to surgery.
I understand that you did have another opiate aboarad but to just sbruptly put a patient through an unecessary stopping of a pain med like that is just wrong especially if they are a responsible and trustowrthy patient preping for surgery as you are.
It is common that the PM docs dont like to be in charge of immediate post op pain until the surgeon refers them back at some point. Remember I posted about that before my neck surgery. And, actually when I had my elbow surgery last march the pM did take over the post op pain but he said that was fdifferent because the surgeon was in another state and it was just to far to be going back and forth so the surgeon and the PM worked it out that way.
Enough about me. I am so glad that you have what you need to make it to the day of surgery. I have it written on my calendar. We have been through a lot together and still are great supporters of eachother.
I cant wait for you to have some relief and be on the road to recovery.
Hang in there my friend.
I am so sorry I did not see this post till a few days passed but as I think you know I had some good and some not so good news from my NS's appt yesterday. My brain is still fillled with all the what if's and I am actually laying on the couch while my Mom is gone tryong to get som rest.
Remember to treat yourself to something extrat special if you can before surgey like a spa treatment facial or some little soothing thing. We deserve tose every now and then especially whith all the stress load.
Sending you a huge HUG and much love....Chrissy
BrittleBones
01-26-2008, 10:29 PM
Sammy - I forget when your surgery is, but make sure to ask the doc about discontinuing all NSAIDS (Motrin, Ibuprofen (same thing),Advil, etc). These drugs can actually slow healing down and increase chances of excess bleeding during surgery and post operatively. Just a thought - KathyMac
sammyo1
01-27-2008, 03:59 PM
Thanks guys, I was already told no motrin, asprin etc... Boy do I need it to, had tooth extracted friday & swelling & pain even with the percocet. I am so scared of infection with the surgery on thursday, it had to be extracted & I am on antibiotics but the last extraction led to infection. Then I slammed my finger in the door, talk about luck. Not much of me not hurting right know.
I hope this tooth extraction does not interfer with surgery. It says it can be normal for all this pain but cant help but worry. That will be my next post if this is still this painful tommorrow. I am so tired of pain, honestly. My jaw, head & ear hurt. I have such bad grinding & clenching I wonder if this causes me problems after teeth are extracted. I will call the dentist if it still hurts this bad tommorrow, they know I am due for surgery thurs. that is why they put me on an antibiotic right away. To be honest I just want to get through all of this & recover. I am exhausted & this additional crap has me even more so. I know there are those who have it worse so I will just do my best to not whine to much. As usual you all are my rock. Sammy
I hope this tooth extraction does not interfer with surgery. It says it can be normal for all this pain but cant help but worry. That will be my next post if this is still this painful tommorrow. I am so tired of pain, honestly. My jaw, head & ear hurt. I have such bad grinding & clenching I wonder if this causes me problems after teeth are extracted. I will call the dentist if it still hurts this bad tommorrow, they know I am due for surgery thurs. that is why they put me on an antibiotic right away. To be honest I just want to get through all of this & recover. I am exhausted & this additional crap has me even more so. I know there are those who have it worse so I will just do my best to not whine to much. As usual you all are my rock. Sammy
stepbystep89
01-27-2008, 04:44 PM
Sammy,
I will keep you in my prayers! You have definitely had a tough time lately, and I can hear the frustration and exhaustion in your posts.
I completely understand your fear of infection. I have battled it in the past and am currently on antibiotics. Rest assured that the antibiotics will do their job and ward off any infection. Of course, it is always good to let your dr or dentist know about your pain just to be sure it isn't something more than a normal recovery.
I hope your saga is nearing a resolution. I know you have been dealing with a lot of pain for quite a while now. It is tough enough to deal with being in physical pain for an extended period, but when life also presents us hurdle after hurdle it is hard to "keep a stiff upper lip." Please know that we are all here for you. If you run out of faith or hope I have a cup of both that you can borrow until you can renew your supply. :angel:
Take care of yourself and take it easy.
Step
I will keep you in my prayers! You have definitely had a tough time lately, and I can hear the frustration and exhaustion in your posts.
I completely understand your fear of infection. I have battled it in the past and am currently on antibiotics. Rest assured that the antibiotics will do their job and ward off any infection. Of course, it is always good to let your dr or dentist know about your pain just to be sure it isn't something more than a normal recovery.
I hope your saga is nearing a resolution. I know you have been dealing with a lot of pain for quite a while now. It is tough enough to deal with being in physical pain for an extended period, but when life also presents us hurdle after hurdle it is hard to "keep a stiff upper lip." Please know that we are all here for you. If you run out of faith or hope I have a cup of both that you can borrow until you can renew your supply. :angel:
Take care of yourself and take it easy.
Step
sammyo1
01-28-2008, 08:41 AM
Thanks, as I said I was so worried about something happening the week of surgery that all of this is almost laughable. I will keep my fingers crossed. wish me luck. Sammy