Does anybody know why the subject of jet gun injections is usually only mentioned concerning people who were in the service? i remember in 1970, students in my public school were lined up and vaccinated using jet guns.

Mine was about 1970 and at around this same time of my life, I remember my lips balloning up to about 3 times there normal size. Maybe, they dont' talk about it much because childrens blood is not thought of as that much of a risk factor.

So that leaves us -- or at least me, anyways -- wondering where does this virus come from in the first place? Kinda like HIV -- it has to come from direct contact (in our case, mostly direct contact right into our bloodstreams!) so it's not like you can get it through hereditary means.

So where did this come from? Of all the reading I've done on the subject (and I still have lots more to do, to be sure), I still never read what it's origin is.

My question is this: if CDC is targeting illegal intravenous drug use as the primary cause of spreading the disease, how did the one person with the disease who was sharing the needles get it? Unlikely they were all from transfusions. But if it was from a transfusion, than we could say transfusions caused this. But how did so many people get so infected from transfusions? I simply cannot believe that the millions of people who supposedly have this disease - either known to them or not known to them - contracted this from illegal intravenous drug use.

Interesting thought about childhood vacs. I agree children are not considered a risk group .... but there's still alot about this disease we don't know.

I know I didn't offer anything here, but I still don't get how so many millions of people worldwide could have this - in far greater numbers than HIV - when direct blood contact is considered to be the nearly only way to get this.

Any thoughts?

Diane

Howdy-
Yup that Jet needle many of us, where subjected too in school, ARE a big possiblity and a very high risk, but as mentioned no one likes to discuss it or take responsablity for it with all the multi, million dollar lawsuits happening.

Interesting though huh?

The Canadfian Red Cross does not exist anymore because they where suied for every dollar they had because of bad practice's and the spreading of HCV, I here writing to you because of those bad practice's.
Be Positive Be Well+


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[This message has been edited by LOST1 (edited 04-16-2003).]

There is an article on jet injectors used for vaccinations on the website below my name. There are several pages of articles, so look for the page numbers in the upper right corner after the word "archives."

We have evidence that this desease has been around for a very long time (at least fifty years that we know of) in stored blood samples of veterans who, by and large did not die of HCV or ever use IV drugs or related liver diseases once they were tracked down. They lived full lives with HCV and died of other causes for the most part.

I don't buy the IVDU theory either. It is one very efficient way to get infected, no doubt, but not everyone got it that way or is lying when they say they didn't use IV drugs.

What matters is that people get diagnosed so that they have choices regarding how they will manage their condition.


best,

thanbey


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[This message has been edited by thanbey (edited 04-16-2003).]

Hi, Thanbey. Although the unknowns can drive a hepper crazy, you are right again when you say "What matters is that people get diagnosed so that they have choices regarding how they will manage their condition."

The plus side of knowing we have Hep C is precisely that -- we are aware and thus can make informed choices. Those of us who know and make life choices will probably survive this disease intack -- at least I believe the vast majority of us will because we are making positive changes and/or choices. We are all treating this thing in numerous ways.

My brother, on the other hand, will not get tested even though he very realistically can have HCV, too.
Sad to me he won't. But if he got tested and it came back positive, he'd have to give up his beloved beer, which I don't believe he is willing to do. Huge beer drinker, he is - a 6-pack a day during the work week; double that for weekend days. For many years. What he doesn't know can keep him drinking beer. Those are the ones who will end up getting slammed by this disease one day, I believe. And we all know how that will go down ...

If I were a drinker, I sure would be happy to know I had this if I did because it would be in my power to potentially drastically alter the course of this disease. It's all about the choices. Oh well, you can lead a horse to water ......

Keep your spirits and attitude HIGH!

Diane