klyn07
04-29-2008, 10:36 AM
The form they sent back said based on the information provided by the 5 medical/therapy offices I submitted to them, I was not disabled at any point in the last 12 months. They also said that "With stability from medication I am considered employable. I am able to find employment in an area where I have limited contact with other people, has a low stress level, and a flexible schedule as they understand my condition may cause me to be unable to work and miss great periods of time." Please, government, show me the job where I work with no one, have no stress, and have unlimited call in days for weeks at a time when I am suicidal or worse.
Oh well. I wasn't counting on it going through, but the response I got made me laugh. I know it will be a long time until I fit their ideal medicated stable state. And I won't go back to work for a long time. But the money would have been nice to cover all of the doc visits and seemingly never ending new prescriptions I am trying to help level out.
Oh well. I wasn't counting on it going through, but the response I got made me laugh. I know it will be a long time until I fit their ideal medicated stable state. And I won't go back to work for a long time. But the money would have been nice to cover all of the doc visits and seemingly never ending new prescriptions I am trying to help level out.
Sponsor
kittiekatt23
04-29-2008, 10:17 PM
My disability was also denies, but it is because I haven't worked enough. How are you supposed to work with a condition like this?! I have to work at least 2 years before I am able to get any kind of benefits. I am pretty stable on the meds I am on, but every once in a while I do have episodes. Just on Saturday I had an anxiety attack and had to go home early from work. I hope you can get something done! I would fight it!
Did you know that addiction is a disability? There are people on disability because they are addicted to drugs. Isn't that a load of BS?!!!
Did you know that addiction is a disability? There are people on disability because they are addicted to drugs. Isn't that a load of BS?!!!
seaturtle
04-29-2008, 11:48 PM
kitkat,
I've not been able to work their quotient of quarters, either. But I am on diability - it's not SSDI, which gives more money, but I am SSI, which is for those who haven't been able to work at all, or just minimally.
I don't see why you don't qualify for that. I'd appeal.
As for the original post - can you go back to your doctors and get more, stronger letters about your inability to work and your last year? I would try to build a strong case and then appeal.
They are denying almost everyone these days. Sometimes, a lawyer is necessary (not that we have any money for lawyers, but Legal Aid has to help there).
I feel for both of you. I don't know why, but I didn't have any trouble getting on SSI, maybe because anorexia was life-threatening at that point, and agoraphobia trapping me inside for years.
Fight it, both of you. If you can't work (or is the strain of working is going to worsen your condition), then you shouldn't be. This system is enough to give us a nervous breakdown.
LEt us know - and if you can, take steps to battle the system. It can take time, but it also can work.
Seaturtle
I've not been able to work their quotient of quarters, either. But I am on diability - it's not SSDI, which gives more money, but I am SSI, which is for those who haven't been able to work at all, or just minimally.
I don't see why you don't qualify for that. I'd appeal.
As for the original post - can you go back to your doctors and get more, stronger letters about your inability to work and your last year? I would try to build a strong case and then appeal.
They are denying almost everyone these days. Sometimes, a lawyer is necessary (not that we have any money for lawyers, but Legal Aid has to help there).
I feel for both of you. I don't know why, but I didn't have any trouble getting on SSI, maybe because anorexia was life-threatening at that point, and agoraphobia trapping me inside for years.
Fight it, both of you. If you can't work (or is the strain of working is going to worsen your condition), then you shouldn't be. This system is enough to give us a nervous breakdown.
LEt us know - and if you can, take steps to battle the system. It can take time, but it also can work.
Seaturtle
klyn07
04-30-2008, 08:25 AM
I don't qualify for SSI because my husband makes too much money. I do qualify (technically) for SSDI because I have worked enough to meet their requirements, in the past, when I was in college and worked full time for 6 years, plus all the part time work I did in high school. But apparently according to them I am not sick enough. There is a SS site (and it is .gov, so actually truly SS site) that says BP is an automatic qualifier for SSDI. I just don't know if I have the energy to fight it. My dad applied 2 years ago for SSDI because of 4 back surgeries and carpal tunnel. It was denied within 4 months and his lawyer is still fighting it. If it weren't for military retirement (not the greatest pay) my parents would have lost pretty much everything at this point. They just sit and deny everything hoping no one will appeal. And I bet most don't. I am not sure if I will or not. I hate this!!!
seaturtle
04-30-2008, 09:15 PM
Hiya,
If bp is an automatic, then they have to take you. Write your congressman and senator and local representatives and back it up with doctor's letters.
I did that, and got it over night.
Maybe someone could help you do this, if your energy is just all out right now.
Wish I were with you. I'm really, really good at this stuff by now. And, as I think I said before, unless you get your stress level down, you sure will be sick enough. This system...makes me furious.
Take care,
Seaturtle
If bp is an automatic, then they have to take you. Write your congressman and senator and local representatives and back it up with doctor's letters.
I did that, and got it over night.
Maybe someone could help you do this, if your energy is just all out right now.
Wish I were with you. I'm really, really good at this stuff by now. And, as I think I said before, unless you get your stress level down, you sure will be sick enough. This system...makes me furious.
Take care,
Seaturtle
stressin78
05-01-2008, 05:06 AM
I worked for a year with the appeals part of the gov over SSA claims for disability - it was common knowledge they denied everyone (this was 1975) and you had to hang in there and appeal to finally get it. I hope things have changed, but don't give up - try the appeal, or writing your congressperson. Many attys specialize in this and take a percentage when you finally are approved, so there are no fees in the meantime. Good luck:D
klyn07
05-02-2008, 10:49 AM
I lost the denial letter, but I called and requested a new one along with the appeal forms. Once I get the letter in the mail I am going to copy it and send it on to my elected officials. That with a letter from my tdoc. He was pretty shocked when I talked to him about it yesterday and said he would write a letter stating that there is no way I could return to work right now, I am just not stable enough yet. I bounce back and forth so much. 1 day of stability is followed by 5 days of depression by 2 days of high energy semi-euphoria. Not fun and no way functional to work through.:( Thanks everyone for your advice. Hopefully it does not take 2 years. My aunt filed for her heart condition and it took over 2 years for the final decision.
seaturtle
05-03-2008, 12:58 AM
Hi,
Good work! Please let us know how things proceed. If you can get your doc to at all make a case for "potentially life-threatening", or something to that ilk, they have to listen to that. Not that they particularly care, but they have liability, sigh.
Hang in there!
Good work! Please let us know how things proceed. If you can get your doc to at all make a case for "potentially life-threatening", or something to that ilk, they have to listen to that. Not that they particularly care, but they have liability, sigh.
Hang in there!
NY 1009
05-10-2008, 10:44 AM
Klyn,
In the State of NY, you have to appeal it in so many days from the time you receive the letter of denial.
This info should all be stated on that letter you recieved. If not, here is some info I recieved when the SSI was denied. I did get approved by SSD and I'll be reviewed again in 3 years to see if I'm still disabled.
I went through 15 jobs in a matter of 10 years. I was so darn disgusted with myself and depressed by my actions that I couldn't control even if I told myslef I was going to control it in every new job I got.
I was only fooling myself believing that by going to a new job, I'd be able to handle it and maybe keep this job for good till I retire. I'm already 47 and have to start thinking about my future money wise.
Lord knows I tried and tried. know one wants an employee that is always missing work or an employee who's face constantly changes from day to day. one day you can be totally happy and nothing bothers you and then the next day you can be totally depressed and not even able to fake a smile. everyone around me knew the days I was down because of the way I looked. and I WORKED at a front desk, greeting patients, answering phones, etc.
I'd tell anyone off if I thought they were talking to me in a snotty way or if anyone got huffy with me. On the phone or in person. I couldn't ever get along with every single person I worked with. and these were only a group of five or six people including myself.
there was always one in the crowd I'd pick out after a while who I thought didn't like me. so each day got worst and worst in my mind thinking they were against me and saying things behind my back.
not a warm and inviting enviroment to work in if you ask me.
I like a team where we ALL get along in order for the small office to run smoothly.
for instance, who wouldn't get a feeling of closterphobic if you had to work in a closet sized office, where one wall you're facing with 3 people on that side and behind your back where theres' only 5 inches of space to turn your chair or walk, you wind up hitting into the person behind you, so you have to remember out of curtisy to not push your chair out too far from your desk when you're working and I"d always have to be pulling in my chair so no one would bang into it, and if they DID bang into it, I'd have to control myself not to yell at the person.
the wall behind you, you'd have the same set up. 3 people facing their side of the wall.
If people were talking too loud while talking on the phone with a client, everyone else had to be quiet.
oh, and don't you know that if all woman who work together, cycle together?
did you ever notice that you eventually all wind up getting your periods around the same time?
plus I found out that if you're disabled they have to allow you days off from work. there has to be some type of agreement and that they are to accomadate your needs if disabled. the type of chair you might need to sit on, equipment if you're hearing is effected, etc.
There are 3 ways to appeal here in NY. you can pick one that best suits the person.
1-CASE REVIEW: you have a right to review the facts in your file.
you can give them more facts to add to your file. Then they'll decide your case again. You won't meet with the person who decides your case.
2- INFORMAL CONFERENCE: You'll meet with the person who decides your case. You can tell that person why you think you're right. You can give them more facts to help prove you're right. You can bring other people to help explain your case.
3- FORMAL CONFERENCE: This is a meeting like an informal conference. The difference is they can make people come to help prove you're right. They can make them bring important papers about your case, even if they don't want to help you. You can question these people at your meeting.
I had to be evaluated by one of their psychiatrists because my case didn't have enough information for them to make a decision. the meeting only took about 15 minutes where he asks you certain questions and he told me when it was over that he is stating I'm disabled.
the pamplet they sent me in the mail stated these doctors are NOT the ones to make the final decision, but I feel this particular meeting is the needed decision to be made.
It is very complicated and I had to call them to find out things I didn't understand.
SSI gave me back pay from the time I first became disabled, which was oct. 2006. then they see how much I was going to make from disability because they have a cutoff number which is around $630.00
SSI will only help you if you're not getting enough money.
It winds up that I will be getting $70.00 over the limit to get SSI.
It would have made my life so much easier money wise if they granted me both SSI and SSD.
But I'm extremely greatful that I'm getting anything at all.
at least now I dont' have to live my life like a broken record that occured for many many years.
I think you may be able to get it if you try again.
good luck.
L
In the State of NY, you have to appeal it in so many days from the time you receive the letter of denial.
This info should all be stated on that letter you recieved. If not, here is some info I recieved when the SSI was denied. I did get approved by SSD and I'll be reviewed again in 3 years to see if I'm still disabled.
I went through 15 jobs in a matter of 10 years. I was so darn disgusted with myself and depressed by my actions that I couldn't control even if I told myslef I was going to control it in every new job I got.
I was only fooling myself believing that by going to a new job, I'd be able to handle it and maybe keep this job for good till I retire. I'm already 47 and have to start thinking about my future money wise.
Lord knows I tried and tried. know one wants an employee that is always missing work or an employee who's face constantly changes from day to day. one day you can be totally happy and nothing bothers you and then the next day you can be totally depressed and not even able to fake a smile. everyone around me knew the days I was down because of the way I looked. and I WORKED at a front desk, greeting patients, answering phones, etc.
I'd tell anyone off if I thought they were talking to me in a snotty way or if anyone got huffy with me. On the phone or in person. I couldn't ever get along with every single person I worked with. and these were only a group of five or six people including myself.
there was always one in the crowd I'd pick out after a while who I thought didn't like me. so each day got worst and worst in my mind thinking they were against me and saying things behind my back.
not a warm and inviting enviroment to work in if you ask me.
I like a team where we ALL get along in order for the small office to run smoothly.
for instance, who wouldn't get a feeling of closterphobic if you had to work in a closet sized office, where one wall you're facing with 3 people on that side and behind your back where theres' only 5 inches of space to turn your chair or walk, you wind up hitting into the person behind you, so you have to remember out of curtisy to not push your chair out too far from your desk when you're working and I"d always have to be pulling in my chair so no one would bang into it, and if they DID bang into it, I'd have to control myself not to yell at the person.
the wall behind you, you'd have the same set up. 3 people facing their side of the wall.
If people were talking too loud while talking on the phone with a client, everyone else had to be quiet.
oh, and don't you know that if all woman who work together, cycle together?
did you ever notice that you eventually all wind up getting your periods around the same time?
plus I found out that if you're disabled they have to allow you days off from work. there has to be some type of agreement and that they are to accomadate your needs if disabled. the type of chair you might need to sit on, equipment if you're hearing is effected, etc.
There are 3 ways to appeal here in NY. you can pick one that best suits the person.
1-CASE REVIEW: you have a right to review the facts in your file.
you can give them more facts to add to your file. Then they'll decide your case again. You won't meet with the person who decides your case.
2- INFORMAL CONFERENCE: You'll meet with the person who decides your case. You can tell that person why you think you're right. You can give them more facts to help prove you're right. You can bring other people to help explain your case.
3- FORMAL CONFERENCE: This is a meeting like an informal conference. The difference is they can make people come to help prove you're right. They can make them bring important papers about your case, even if they don't want to help you. You can question these people at your meeting.
I had to be evaluated by one of their psychiatrists because my case didn't have enough information for them to make a decision. the meeting only took about 15 minutes where he asks you certain questions and he told me when it was over that he is stating I'm disabled.
the pamplet they sent me in the mail stated these doctors are NOT the ones to make the final decision, but I feel this particular meeting is the needed decision to be made.
It is very complicated and I had to call them to find out things I didn't understand.
SSI gave me back pay from the time I first became disabled, which was oct. 2006. then they see how much I was going to make from disability because they have a cutoff number which is around $630.00
SSI will only help you if you're not getting enough money.
It winds up that I will be getting $70.00 over the limit to get SSI.
It would have made my life so much easier money wise if they granted me both SSI and SSD.
But I'm extremely greatful that I'm getting anything at all.
at least now I dont' have to live my life like a broken record that occured for many many years.
I think you may be able to get it if you try again.
good luck.
L

