dazed and confused
10-28-2002, 09:33 PM
I have an old Mothers Encylopedia. I'm not sure of the copyright date, I think around 1965. I looked up cold sore, since the virus is related and I knew genital herpes would not be in it. It said, vaccination with smallpox virus,which is immunologically related to the virus of cold sores can produce long and sometimes permanent remissions. The smallpox vaccine has not been around for years but will be out again soon because of terrist. Could this be affective in curing herpes I&II?
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TheOneInFour
10-29-2002, 07:23 AM
I'd never heard of that. A quick search on the Net turned up some references to the smallpox vaccine creating some pretty nasty complications and problems when it was used to try and treat herpes. But I've never seen smallpox associated with herpes, so I'm not sure what the connection is.
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TheOneInFour
all for one
10-30-2002, 06:09 PM
My doctor is in an old timer and he told me that there was a day that he used the vaccination for smallpox virus for herpes and that it worked for most of his patients. I think this is a money thing, there are solutions to our problems but we are not aloud to use them.
dazed and confused
10-31-2002, 02:41 PM
I think we should all ask more doctors about this. I do understand that there are risks that go along with the smallpox vaccine, but there are also alot of people suffering with herpes. If the smallpox vaccine is also a possible cure for herpes then why arn't people told. There has to be some truth in this or it would'nt be printed in this encyclopedia!!
swami20
11-29-2002, 07:00 PM
I just read on msnbc today (a story about the smallpox vaccine) that, according to the CDC, those who have certain conditions, or live with someone who does, should not get the smallpox vaccine unless they have been exposed to the smallpox virus. The conditions are: 1) Eczema or atopic dermatitis; 2) Skin conditions such as burns, chickenpox, shingles, impetigo, HERPES, severe acne, or psoriasis; 3) weakened immune system; 4) Pregnancy or plans to become pregnanat within one month of vaccination. I plan to look into this more, but I don't think I'd want to get the vaccine until I found out what all this means. I hope we never have to find out.
TheOneInFour
11-29-2002, 07:20 PM
Hi Swami20,
Thanks for the info. I've been prowling around the Net a bit on this topic and was surprised to see widely divergent views about this from a variety of what seemed to be pretty reliable sources. It made me wonder if the potential from the vaccine for non-smallpox uses might come from altering it slightly, but how I'm not sure. I got the impression that the jury's still out on its uses beyond smallpox, although it seems there are some risks involved.
TheOneInFour
Thanks for the info. I've been prowling around the Net a bit on this topic and was surprised to see widely divergent views about this from a variety of what seemed to be pretty reliable sources. It made me wonder if the potential from the vaccine for non-smallpox uses might come from altering it slightly, but how I'm not sure. I got the impression that the jury's still out on its uses beyond smallpox, although it seems there are some risks involved.
TheOneInFour
Nonexist
11-29-2002, 11:27 PM
I've also read that getting the smallpox vaccine if you have herpes is dangerous. As if having herpes makes the smallpox vaccine potentially deadly. Then you hear it been used FOR herpes. Something is definately going on there.
SusanM
12-05-2002, 03:29 PM
You can read about the small pox vaccine on a Center for Disease Control web site. I did recently. I think I got the web address out of a newspaper article. I remember that herpes is listed as a contraindication.
The small pox vaccine is literally the first vaccine ever developed, and is considered a crude vaccine. Your skin is literally pricked and the vaccine is rubbed into it so that you get a dose much like we contract herpes (through a break in skin etc.). The vaccine can be dangerous in people who have skin problems like ecsema (spelling?) because they are more likely to have severe reactions-the virus can continue to spread beyond the innocuation site! People had to have limbs amputated in the past because of this! My guess is that it is contraindicated in herpes because of the breaks in the skin associated with the lesions. You might get more infor off the CDC's web site if you do a search. susan
The small pox vaccine is literally the first vaccine ever developed, and is considered a crude vaccine. Your skin is literally pricked and the vaccine is rubbed into it so that you get a dose much like we contract herpes (through a break in skin etc.). The vaccine can be dangerous in people who have skin problems like ecsema (spelling?) because they are more likely to have severe reactions-the virus can continue to spread beyond the innocuation site! People had to have limbs amputated in the past because of this! My guess is that it is contraindicated in herpes because of the breaks in the skin associated with the lesions. You might get more infor off the CDC's web site if you do a search. susan
swami20
12-05-2002, 11:12 PM
Thanks Susan, I will check out the CDC site. If a quarter of Americans have the herpes virus, that's a lot of people who won't be able to be vaccinated. Add to that all the people with ezcema and other skin conditions and it doesn't seem like the vaccine would offer much protection to us. I wonder how many people didn't get the vaccine when it was administered in the days before 1972 due to these conditions?