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AZMan07
05-14-2008, 04:50 PM
Hi Folks,
Had another workup (last in November). Good news is that T went up from 671 to 753 (241-827). The first time you heard from me it was like 512 or something. Free T from 14.5 to 15.3 (7.2-24.0). Bad news is that Estradiol also went up from 24 to 47 (<54) and Estrone is stable from 67 to 68 (12-72). LH is stable from 2.9 to 3.0 and FSH from 7.5-7.9 (1.4-18.1).

That is a double jump in my Estradiol! :confused:

You may remember I went off the Paravol a few months ago. All I take now is a DIM Saw Palmetto supplement. The Paravol really helped my BPH symptoms and I attributed it to the DIM/Chrysin. The rest of it was Trib, HGW and other T and libido increasers. I read there was no solid research on Chrysin but DIM's effects are well known and proven to *lower* Estradiol.

Everything else normal, Iron, DHT, Insulin, Cortisol, TSH, Vit D, Zinc, DHEA , etc.

LDL & Tri's are up a little but but still well within normal ranges. (got to watch that pizza! :D)

I have been running more but other than that, my lifestyle has not changed.

This is putting my libido in the toilet, again and putting on a belly. :mad: My lower back is a mess so I can't do crunches for the gut.

Anyway, that is a very high T level but it is meaningless if it is converting to Estradiol. :(

I'm only taking a half dose of the DIM, should I increase it? I only took 1/2 due to the total amount in the entire Paravol mix was only 350 with 2 caps with a dozen ingredients and the DIM I am taking now is 25% of 300 that contains Vit E succinate and Phosphatidlycholine (soy) so I thought that would be plenty. Is the soy raising my E?

Anyone have any experience with DIM?

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JustinD
05-15-2008, 03:30 PM
would also be interested to hear if DIM has had any effects for people. Very interested in trying it.

joe132
05-16-2008, 12:07 PM
Are you on injections? Your estrogen levels seem pretty high, might wanna think about armidex. That high E2 will put a damper on your sex life and libido.

AZMan07
05-17-2008, 12:37 AM
Are you on injections? Your estrogen levels seem pretty high, might wanna think about armidex. That high E2 will put a damper on your sex life and libido.

No, I have never taken any exogenous T or HCG. Only supps, Arginine, Zinc, Saw Palmetto, Pumpkin Seed but have been taking this stuff for years. Only change is the DIM :confused:

hayfarmer
05-17-2008, 01:09 AM
DIM does work but not for everyone. It also has some side effects for some like headaches and in rare cases lower libido according to Dr. Shippen. But it is worth a try because for most it works fine.

AZMan07
05-24-2008, 05:57 PM
I will test again after a month of taking the recommended dose.

 
 
 




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