Here are my latest labs...This is 72 hours (almost spot on ) after my injection.
which is 150mg of T cyp.

T 717 (241-827)
E2 46 (13-54)
DHT 22 (25-75)

Please comment!!!! Note that I was taking 1 indoplex DIM nightly and 50mg of Zinc every afternoon... I am thinking I should up my DIM dose for the 2 days following the shot. Like go from 1 to 1 1/2... see how that goes, since lowering E2 too much is supposedly bad as well.....

DHT is low, hows your libido? Might wanna consider gels if still having problems, they will help raise your DHT

E2 is somewhat high but not too bad. Again, gels would help lower it but I doubt you would get to over 700 total T on gels. Do you know your SHBG level? You might want to consider lowering the T cyp dose if SHBG is not too high. Lowering the dose would also result in lower E2.

DHT is low, hows your libido? Might wanna consider gels if still having problems, they will help raise your DHT

Hayfarmer, my SHBG was 15 in April when I tested....

In Regards to Gels, the reason I am on T Cyp is becuase after 2 years of using Androgel its effectivness declined to where I was back to my T level starting point,,,IE it was not doing anythig at all for me.... My libido is ok...could be better... I wonder if there is a solution for the DHT question... HF... You have used that sublingual T correct??? Does that effect DHT or E2 significantly? Also, what do you think of my upping the DIM dosage to combat the E2?

No, I have not used the sublingual T. If your SHBG is that low, you might do fine with total T in the 600's. I would cut the T cyp dose. You might also want to combine some compounded T crean with the T cyp. If you rub the cream on the scrotum you will get a lot of DHT conversion because there is a lot of alpha reductase 5 in the genitals skin. You could do this with gel too but gel is more expensive and will burn some.

You could try more DIM but watch for side effects.

No, I have not used the sublingual T. If your SHBG is that low, you might do fine with total T in the 600's. I would cut the T cyp dose. You might also want to combine some compounded T crean with the T cyp. If you rub the cream on the scrotum you will get a lot of DHT conversion because there is a lot of alpha reductase 5 in the genitals skin. You could do this with gel too but gel is more expensive and will burn some.

You could try more DIM but watch for side effects.
HF!!! Interesting you should say that about the gel on the genitals... it just so happens I have a "couple" extra bottles of AG from when I made the switch... How much and how often would you rec applying to the scrotum? oh!! and what time of day?

Also, when you say look out for side effects from the DIM do you mean the low E2 sides?
thx as always for your insite!!!!!

If you are going to use the gel down there then you should also lower the T cyp dose. You know from past experience about how much of a bump in T you will get from each 2.5 g of androgel, so pick your dose that way. At the same time lower the T cyp dose. It should result in lower E2 and higher DHT. But be prepared, it will burn. I have used it there at one point and it was not too bad but it did burn. You can also put it on the penis which does not burn quite as much but.

On the DIM I was more speaking of other side effect some get. Some people get headaches. I'm not sure what the others are. My doctor also says for some men DIM can make libido worse....so that is something to consider too.

If you are going to use the gel down there then you should also lower the T cyp dose. You know from past experience about how much of a bump in T you will get from each 2.5 g of androgel, so pick your dose that way. At the same time lower the T cyp dose. It should result in lower E2 and higher DHT. But be prepared, it will burn. I have used it there at one point and it was not too bad but it did burn. You can also put it on the penis which does not burn quite as much but.

On the DIM I was more speaking of other side effect some get. Some people get headaches. I'm not sure what the others are. My doctor also says for some men DIM can make libido worse....so that is something to consider too. thx HF... I have tried it b4....does not burn that much.... I am going to start slow and see if I can get to a happy place... :) like 2 pumps per day...I know I have some labs from last year, my T was 450ish and my DHT was in the 80's... this was on 6 pumps per day of AG applied on the arms and shoulders...

Another question about T cyp!!! If I take a shot and my T peaks at 700 then falls to say 400 when I take my shot...does that mean that my next shot will "build" upon the last shot or will my "peak" always be whatever the dose i am injecting indicates???? does that make sense??? Please advise...

thx again....

and in regards to DIM, I have never gotten a headache taking DIM... I have read on other boards that if you take too high a dose it will lower your E2 too much and that in turn will kill your libido like high E2 does.... that is possibly what your Dr is speaking of HF....

On the DIM, if it works for you it is possible for it to lower E2 too much. In my case my E2 was still too high so thats not what the doctor was talking about. He took me off it because I complained my libido was up and down.

On the T cyp, it takes about a month for T cyp to get out of your system. So, you will not reach a steady state until about a month worth of shots. So, they do build upon each other for the first month. Then as the one from a month ago wears off completely you are taking a new shot to replace it. Does that make sense? So whenever you do a dose adjustment you really have to wait a month to see the full effects of it.

On the DIM, if it works for you it is possible for it to lower E2 too much. In my case my E2 was still too high so thats not what the doctor was talking about. He took me off it because I complained my libido was up and down.

On the T cyp, it takes about a month for T cyp to get out of your system. So, you will not reach a steady state until about a month worth of shots. So, they do build upon each other for the first month. Then as the one from a month ago wears off completely you are taking a new shot to replace it. Does that make sense? So whenever you do a dose adjustment you really have to wait a month to see the full effects of it.

HF....makes perfect sense.... what do you currently use for E2 control?

Not much. I use zinc, and Resveratrol. I ran labs last month and E2 was 53. I will test again tomorrow and if too high again I will ask the doctor for something. I am also trying to lose some weight now. I am about 20lbs heavier than I was 3 or 4 years ago. If I can lose some fat it should help E2 also. So, my plan is to see if my losing weight helps. If not, I will try to use some meds of some sort.

HF: In previous post in this thread you wrote of using resveratrol to inhibit aromatase. Were you given a dosage level to try ? I have just begun
using DIM along with zinc to lower my estradiol. I have no medical
supervision at this point as I am between physicians thru unpredictable
circumstances and sort of winging it out of necessity. Any info on this
use of natural supplements welcome.