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cookiemunster65
10-06-2008, 09:59 AM
i'm definately not feeling myself, especially this past week. as some of you may remember, my nausea had returned this past week. i went back on my calander to compare dates that the nausea had started in previous months.

may - cd 20 -31
june - cd 22 - cd 1
july (my 56 day cycle) - cd 25 - 48
aug - part of the 56 day cycle
sept - cd 21 (just a few days here and there)
oct - cd 13

my last period, was 09/14 (cd1.) my period was very light all week (as in one pad a day.. but i didn't keep the same pad on all day, but i could have.) i typically am heavy the 2nd and 3rd day, and i taper off within a few more days. but it was consistant very light light flow from cd1-4, cd5 was i'd say a medium flow (much like the typical first day for me) and back to very light.

its a few days before the nausea typically starts. i actually vomitted on cd 13 (09/26) in the morning. nauseas all week until this sunday (cd 22) i literally felt sick to my stomach, i plopped myself on the couch ALL day. i just felt horrible, like all day. my bbs have been hurting, they feel full, my stomach feels full and bloated. and i am sooo tired. i just can't seem to get enough sleep!

i guess my question is.. because dh and i haven't been trying, i thought the symptoms would have mild, if not gone, but they are infact worse this month. they were at least tollerable last month. the nausea is so bad that i have to lay my head down at work for at least 10 minutes at a shot (taking me like an hour just to type this out even.)

i want to know what everyone's thoughts are. do you think my body's just back into the "tcc" mode even though we're not going to start until my next cycle? (af due around 10/15.) do you think its possible i may be pg? or do you think there's more of an underlying issue?

all i know is, i'm sick and tired of being sick and tired.. :(


also, i have noticed more frequent urination and moments of dizziness.

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cookiemunster65
10-06-2008, 02:24 PM
i didn't test the last time i had my period because i wasn't late, wasn't trying, and really didn't think it could even be a possibility. i mean, i bled when i was supposed to (well a day early) if it was infact my period. but if it wasn't my period, i'd be like.. i dont know, like 8-ish weeks, which makes sense of when the symptoms started..

the nausea just comes in waves, heavy in the morning, until about 11, then it will just pick and choose like 15 minute intervals throughout the day to annoy me, and then i'm okay after like 4 -8, then around 9ish, it hits me again and i just have to got to bed or lay down.

i'm just tired of feeling this way (for no reason.) like, i dont even know when i ovulated, but we guessed and just didn't have sex, all but like once that entire week, which i know that's all it takes, but.. there are times where i'm feeling so horrible and i think "man, i have to be." then the feeling goes away and i think "ok, it's not possible."

the most frustrating part about this all, is i'm not even trying yet!

Karen128
10-07-2008, 01:48 AM
It sounds like your nausia may be related to your normal hormone cycle and probably doesn't have anything to do with TTC. I've had some bouts of nausia and vertigo, but certainly not as frequently or as long as you.

Have you talked to your Dr about it? It sounds like things are unpleasant enough to have your Dr look into it and make sure there's not an underlying cause. Perhaps you're having really bad PMS. That would be my bet. If so, there are some diet changes that may help control it. When I was younger I never had any PMS symptoms, but when I got into my late 20s early 30s I had a lot of hormonal issues and went on the pill to control it.

cookiemunster65
10-08-2008, 09:32 AM
see, i'm in my early 20's. and typically, the nausea starts about the week (or week after) o'ing. this time, it started the week before i ovulated, and it was pretty severe. you would think if it was pms symptoms, it would be the week before af. i've had my family doctor look at it and she thinks its acid reflux, which makes no sense to me. :( my gynocologist says she thinks i'm going through a hormonal change.. which is possible, but it seems kind of weird, being that i'm only turning 22 in november.

i don't know. last night i was just so miserable, i had a headache, my stomach felt yucky, my bbs could've conducted lightening, my back hurt, i was bloated and exhausted. i went to bed 2 hours before i typically go to bed.. i just can't seem to get enough sleep! :yawn:

[[elainee, haven't heard from you yet, any thoughts since you've been following my saga and all i've been going through?]]

thaele
10-08-2008, 11:14 AM
Cookie did you call up the doc? Or head to the clinic? I really don't know what to say.. It sounds to me like your body is going haywire.. maybe it's trying to fight off infection or some kind of bug?

cookiemunster65
10-08-2008, 11:23 AM
no thaele, i didn't call the doctor. i mean, its every *bleeping" month and quite frankly, i'm getting sick of it, as well as my husband AND both my doctors. (and i'm sure all of you are tired of hearing me moan and groan about it too.)

seriously, we didn't try for like 2 months, and i was still nauseated so i know it wasn't just in my head..

i'm just at a loss here. something definately is wrong, but no one wants to help and no one wants to listen to me :(

elainee
10-08-2008, 11:52 AM
Cookie,

I'm sorry I haven't been able to input. But I'm going to sit down at the computer tonight and reply xx

thaele
10-08-2008, 12:13 PM
I'm not tired of it :p Don't feel bad about posting here. I'm sure everyone else can agree with me that we aren't sick and tired of hearing about it. For one, it gives us someone elses personal experiences to base our own experiences on. gives us an idea of what could be going on, if we're going through the same, plus I totally understand how it feels to have your docs look at you sideways when you know something is actually wrong., and everyone else looking at you sideways too for that matter.

I'm apparently a hypocondriac and everything is always wrong with me. I totally disagree but couldn't tell them otherwise because if I'm in pain, it's in my head, eventhough I've been diagnosed with reynolds and possibly could even have fibro at my age.. I also have blood circulation issues causing other problems. But ya, it's in my head of course! So dont worry at all. I know exactly where you're coming from. I try to not say much about how I actually feel to people around me. I'm sick of seeing their eyes roll back as though saying "what's wrong with you now..".. it's not that anything new is wrong, is that nothing is getting resolved!!! It's very frustrating. My fiance is border line, he'll tell me that I need to put my foot down with docs because they don't do much at all for anything.. but then when I tell him my hands are so sore I can't even type (this is no exageration) he'll say "there's always something wrong with you".. then tops that off with saying he doesn't think I'm lying but that it's just there is always something wrong. Man, way to confuse me and make me feel at a loss for how to actually take the comment.

Sorry, that turned into a mini vent. Ya got me started lol. Hopefully, gives you an idea of how I understand the way you're feeling. Just hang in there is all I can say. I haven't seen my doc in 2 years because I haven't gotten any answers for years of trying. It feels like it's not worth it. At least your doc has made suggestions in regards to ttc. It's a step in a good direction. But, I know how you feel when you go there and they make you feel like you should have never got out of bed. It sucks.

cookiemunster65
10-08-2008, 12:42 PM
I'm sick of seeing their eyes roll back as though saying "what's wrong with you now..".. it's not that anything new is wrong, is that nothing is getting resolved!!! It's very frustrating. My fiance is border line, he'll tell me that I need to put my foot down with docs because they don't do much at all for anything.. but then when I tell him my hands are so sore I can't even type (this is no exageration) he'll say "there's always something wrong with you".. then tops that off with saying he doesn't think I'm lying but that it's just there is always something wrong.

wow, we must be married to the same person.. he does the same exact things. i know you guys aren't sick of hearing it, it's almost like i'm sick of telling people, but i keep thinking that if i keep telling, someone's going to have an answer. i mean, i'm sitting here (pecking with one finger) because my bbs hurt so bad, i have to almost hold them. my stomach is so bloated (i can't even suck it in when i stand up.) like honestly! :mad:

i refuse to take a hpt, because majority rules, in my head anyway. there's like a war going on, 49% says to test and 51% says not to, so i'm not. i mean, i bled for about the right amount of time, it was just light. so i'm taking it as a period.. but i have every single pg symptom in the book! and i know its not in my head because we haven't tried for like 2 months!! so it brings me back to the begining of the never-ending circle i'm trapped in.

[[don't worry about venting, its helping me too to know that someone is just as frustrated with their health as i am.]] is it so bad to just want some answers?

thaele
10-08-2008, 01:53 PM
No, it's definately not bad. But it makes it hard when no matter what you say or do people make you feel like it is bad. I stopped telling my parents about my problems, unless I was blacking out, they didn't believe me. Which, I did actually black out multiple times (another one of my problems..). This was the only time they'd believe me. Sad huh? Then, because I wasn't finding any answers, I decided to look online, I made the mistake of telling them I was trying to research my issues. They made fun of me and then when I'd come home and say I had a migraine or my whole arm was numb with pain, they'd ask me what the internet said. It wasn't out of concern, it was to make fun of me then I'd tell them what they're saying is upsetting, they'd tell me to learn how to take a joke. One time, sure, but every single time? I can't take that kind of joke.

When you know yourself, and know soemthing is wrong, don't listen to others. I don't know what it is, maybe because they don't have nearly so many health issues, maybe their tolerance is higher? Maybe they can't 'see' that you're feeling so horrible.. they just think it's not real. I don't know. But one thing I know for sure, the way you 'look' makes a whole hell of a lot of difference. I have an incredibly high pain tolerance.. I couldn't even explain how high it is. I go through almost every day with constant pain but can get through it, I only complain when it gets to a point I can't tolerate it anymore. The whole while, I will keep a smile on my face and make jokes. It's just who I am and how I am. I once went into the hospital with a really bad attack in my stomach (still don't know what is was.. surprise lol), when I was registering, because of how I am, I joked with the woman and laughed. So she wrote that down and said it didnt look to be so bad.. when really, it was quite severe to the point I was in and out of it.

I don't know where I'm going with all of this. I guess I just think it depends on people's perceptions and their own experiences. Unless they're in your shoes, they have no idea.

I know this is quite a tangent off from TTC, but I truely think you shouldn't stop looking for answers. I've had one great experience with docs, and that was curing my migraine problem, I call it cured because its been 3-4 years wtih only 2 migraines or so. I'm 23, I started migrained when I was 7.. I persisted from 7 right through to the age of 20. 13 years to get it resolved. Just don't give up!

cookiemunster65
10-08-2008, 02:05 PM
i'm trying to keep the faith.. its just very difficult (as you know.) thanks for your story, and it does make me feel better knowing someone is going through the same thing (well, sort of the same thing.)

:angel: bless you thaele

thaele
10-08-2008, 02:12 PM
Not a problem. I think things will work out in the end for you, it's just going to take some time.

elainee
10-08-2008, 04:03 PM
Ah we could be sisters!! I too always have something wrong with me. Without going on too long about it. I get a lot of chest infections, then last December had pleurisy for weeks, then more chest infections, then out of the pleurisy in Jan I got arthritis. Now I spend every morning, limping around till about lunchtime and then I'm ok until the next morning. I won't take meds for it yet because of TTC and I've been told once I'm pregnant the symptoms will ease off. Oh, i also have stomach problems and take daily medication for that unless I'm TTC.

But like you guys, people see all of this, i mean hobbiling around is easy to see, but nobody mentions it to me, so I don't mention it anymore either. I mean it's not like you want attention every day, but it would be nice once in a while for someone to acknowledge you're having a bit of a hard time. So in summary I completely understand and empathise with your problems.

Cookie, you can't go on feeling like this anymore. I mean you're going to TTC again next month and something has to be done before then. It is Definitely not in your head so forget that. Would you not take a test just to be sure to be sure. I've taken them before when I've known 100% it's not going to be positive, but peace of mind is worth it. I don't know if you should change your family doctor, I mean if she/he think it's acid reflux, why aren't they doing anything about it? there are loads of tests that can be done and lots of meds you can take. Or maybe you should get back to that specialist now instead of waiting any longer. I mean you don't want to go to the specialist too soon, but there is a problem now and you're suffering now. You want to get yourself into the best shape possible for ttc, so maybe you shouldn't wait.

Again, I'm very sorry to hear you are feeling so bad. Get the help you deserve, don't put it off until Jan or Feb xx

cookiemunster65
10-08-2008, 04:14 PM
It is Definitely not in your head so forget that. Would you not take a test just to be sure to be sure. I've taken them before when I've known 100% it's not going to be positive, but peace of mind is worth it. I don't know if you should change your family doctor, I mean if she/he think it's acid reflux, why aren't they doing anything about it? there are loads of tests that can be done and lots of meds you can take. Or maybe you should get back to that specialist now instead of waiting any longer. I mean you don't want to go to the specialist too soon, but there is a problem now and you're suffering now. You want to get yourself into the best shape possible for ttc, so maybe you shouldn't wait.

thank you for your imput. you, thaele and i really could be sisters :) i'm definately going to get dh's imput tonight. i mean, he sees and i see how miserable i am. i can't even work out, its how horrible i feel. i'll see what he wants to do about possibly switching doctors, or calling both of them and saying "get your tushie's in gear or i'm leavin'!"

enough's enough, and i've dealt with this for too long. i'm going to push for the specialist to at least get the okay to try again.. and i'll definately be testing in the morning (if i remember too.) thanks again elainee.. (you too thaele)


by the way, my doctor did give me prevacid (trial packets) and said to try them, but not if there's a possibility that i'm pg. well, once the nausea starts, its always within my tww.. so.. i haven't tried it yet

elainee
10-08-2008, 06:07 PM
Yeah, I see what you mean about not being able to try the meds, I always go off my stomach tablets during the tww as well. It's a real catch 22 situation there.

But the way I see it, as you do, is that there is a problem now and it needs to be sorted out, you can't be feeling like this for two weeks out of every month. And the sooner you get started the better.

Hope you're feeling a tad better. It would be great if you, me and Thaele all got our bfp's together, being sister 'n' all.

Try and put a smile on or as much of one as you can manage xx

thaele
10-08-2008, 08:04 PM
Cookie, I'm glad you're going to push the issue! I've heard so many horrible stories about how someone knew something was up, yet their docs kept saying it was nothing.. sometimes it can be nothing, but more often then not there is an underlying cause, and even some of these could be very serious conditions.

I currently don't have my own doc.. I do have my old one in another city an hour away that I could see if things got real bad, but, that's a bit far to go for 15 minutes worth of "well I don't think it's anything". lol.

It's odd we're all in the same boat! I guess that's what makes it so easy to talk about our issues here. No one judges. Woot! :D

Cookie, please post your results as early as possible. I'm just as curious as you are!!!

cookiemunster65
10-09-2008, 09:21 AM
thaele, you're going to have to keep your patience one more day. i was up all night peeing.. so i didn't think to test when i actually got up this morning. i drank alot yesterday, i was soooo thirsty, and i paid for it last night.

i'll cut back on my fluid intake today, and test tomorrow morning. i didn't get a chance to talk to dh last night either. we had company over, then we showered and laid in bed. he watched tv, and i fell right asleep after i hit the pillow. hopefully we'll get to talk tonight though.

still feeling crappy today, big surprise there. i had some tugging in my abdomen yesterday, and it felt kind of tight (and bloated). now, my bowels were a little harder yesterday, so it might be an onset of constipation, so we'll see how that plays out. see, all my symptoms can be explained by 15 different things, and that is what gets me the most frustrated :mad:

thaele
10-09-2008, 12:00 PM
I definately know that frustration!! ANY symptom related to TTC is a symptom of something completely irrelevent!! OMG! lol. I wish symptoms were black and white and could only relate to one thing. It'd all be so much simpler that way.

Well, no harm done in waiting one extra day. Except, now I have to wait an extra day. Gee, thanks! Kidding ;)

cookiemunster65
10-09-2008, 12:26 PM
yeah, i know exactly what you mean. i mean, i'd me more sympathetic to myself if i was trying, but its just the simple fact that we weren't trying for like 2 months now, and aren't going to until november or december, so its not even on my mind now. its the fact that i know its not in my head. i know that, and you know that, but i dont think dh and the doctor gets it.

so either i'm pg, or i'm raising h-e-double hockey sticks. either way, WATCH OUT! ;)

elainee
10-09-2008, 03:14 PM
Hey guys,

So still nothing better today then. Do the test in the morning and hopefully it will be the answer you're looking for. I was just thinking today, it's definitely not acid reflux the more I think about it. If it was, that it would be every day, not just around O time and afterwards. So I think we can rule that out.

I do understand how difficult all of this is, it's horrible. Hopefully you do get to have a chat with DH tonight.

Good luck and let us know everything in the morning xx

cookiemunster65
10-10-2008, 09:28 AM
tested and, like i thought, bfn. who knows anymore. dh and i still haven't talked about the specialist, i've been feeling overwhelmed with all this and i still feel like i can't get enough sleep (i mean, i'm actually turning down sex.. you know i'm not feeling well!!).. i'm just a mess right now :( :confused:

hopefully i can actually talk to dh tonight.. af is due next week, so i may just be feeling emotional from that, so we'll see. in the meantime, i'll keep popping tums and going to bed early.. not much else i can do until af arrives. :(

elainee
10-10-2008, 12:31 PM
Hi Cookie,

Sorry to hear about the bfn, but at least you know where you are now..well kinda. Now we'll just hope AF arrives nice and swiftly and put you out of your misery.

Hopefully you'll have your chat with DH tonight, but I honestly feel you need to get checked either way.

Sorry you're still feeling so bad xx

thaele
10-10-2008, 12:52 PM
Sorry Cookie about the BFN.. but at least that rules it out. I'd defiantely try to figure this all out. It sucks to feel this way al lthe time!!!

bunny9987
10-10-2008, 10:03 PM
It sounds like anxiety. Anxiety can make one physically sick.

cookiemunster65
10-13-2008, 12:25 PM
well af is due this week, probably wednesday. so we'll see if what's been going stops once af gets here. (grrr in advance if it is!!)

dh and i decided in stead of charting, etc, we're going to get an estimated o date online somewhere and just "have at it" the entire week i'd be due to o. i really got so used to not charting anything that i was actually dreading having to do it again. so we decided to take it easy for the rest of the year, and get a little more aggressive in 2009. we still have not decided about the specialist, but we're leaning on january still. figure we'll finish out the year in a "non-stressing" manner, and start off 2009 with nothing but headaches :p

i'm comfortable with all that though. i had to bend what i wanted, and so did dh, but we reached an agreement on everything. i'd really like to get to a specialist like today, but dh and i are really not trying to rush anything this time around. i mean, we only really did like a 6 month stretch, and the few months off was really enjoyable, so i'm at peace with the laid back decisions we've come to.

now we wait for af to arrive and get down to business ;)

elainee
10-14-2008, 03:46 PM
That's a very good conclusion yourself and DH have come to Cookie. So really, you've only about two more weeks to wait until you unofficially, officially start trying again. We'll only be about a week behind each other because I'm on CD6 now, so I'm going to start in earnest this weekend.

We're still on our Fertilaid, hopefully it will help. Had a strange AF this time around, it only lasted 4 days and wasn't as painful or as heavy as usual. Hopefully all of this is good and I'm not just mucking around with my system. My bbs got sore before AF and haven't stopped being sore since, normally they stop CD1 Hemmm. But sure we'll just give it a go and hopefully it will be worth it.

Delighted you are unofficially back in. How are all of your symptoms, still raging? xx

cookiemunster65
10-14-2008, 03:57 PM
oh definately. they are raging as always. my bbs have been so sore, i had back aches like crazy, and of course - the nausea. it's finally kicking itself out now today at 3pm. also, i was extremely moody and emotional the past couple days (in hind-sight.) still salty this morning too. i'm holding a grudge with my boss. over what? i have no idea ;)

i did have a little bit of "smudging" today. not sure if af is coming a day or 2 early, but it hasn't amounted to anything substantial yet. so we'll see. anyway, glad we'll be right behind eachother starting to start again :) i hope that fertilaid works for you. i swear, if you get pg this month, i'm downing a whole bottle of it haha

elainee
10-16-2008, 04:40 AM
Hopefully, that smudging is AF on her way a little early. Isn't it weird, when you're eager to go again and know you're not pg you can't wait for AF to arrive, then when you are trying, you're desperate for her not to come. Oh the joys of being a woman!

Sorry your symptoms are still horrible. Hopefully you'll get relieve when af arrives. I hate that feeling, when you're just annoyed and you don't know why??

Hope you're feeling better today xx

cookiemunster65
10-16-2008, 09:24 AM
well the smudging started tuesday, a very tiny bit on wednesday, and very very faint today. usually the nausea dissipates when af comes, but the nausea is still going full force, and it looks like af is going away :confused::confused: we'll see where it gets, but this is all just too confusing.

i'll keep you posted on my awkward situation.. what stage are you at now? just bd'ing still?





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