scouselad1974
10-10-2008, 03:49 AM
Hi Guys
I've just had my ECG results which showed a normal heart rate, but my Doctor says the reults are Borderline, he did try explaining the reults to me but I was a bit shocked and now that I'm home I don't really understand what he ment, he said that my heart is working harder at certain points of the day, I have been diagnosed with High B/P and have started medication 10 days ago, he did say that the ECG was to show if I had an enlarged heart due to damage being caused from my high blood pressure as he doesnt know how long I've had high B/P for
I've just had my ECG results which showed a normal heart rate, but my Doctor says the reults are Borderline, he did try explaining the reults to me but I was a bit shocked and now that I'm home I don't really understand what he ment, he said that my heart is working harder at certain points of the day, I have been diagnosed with High B/P and have started medication 10 days ago, he did say that the ECG was to show if I had an enlarged heart due to damage being caused from my high blood pressure as he doesnt know how long I've had high B/P for
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hopesprings2
10-13-2008, 07:03 PM
might mean it is normal side of high like 99 or more
or normal side of low i think is 60 or below
or normal side of low i think is 60 or below
harka
10-13-2008, 08:47 PM
When someone is found to have high blood pressure, it's important to know how long it's been happening for because it's not necessarily high blood pressure for one day that causes you have problems--it's when you have sustained high blood pressure for months to years that's the problem. When a young person like yourself comes in with high blood pressure, one of the ways to see if it has been around a long time is by doing an ECG. If you see that the amplitude of the ECG waves in certain leads are exceptionally high, this represents something called left ventricular HYPERTROPHY...i.e. the muscle of the ventricle has built up over time because of repeated need to pump against high pressure.
Did he say that the ECG showed left ventricular hypertrophy?
Did he say that the ECG showed left ventricular hypertrophy?
GodHand
10-14-2008, 09:09 AM
Heart enlargement due to high blood pressure can be reversed if blood pressure is controlled and blood pressure is dropped to the 130's and below.
Beefsteak
10-14-2008, 12:48 PM
Heart enlargement due to high blood pressure can be reversed if blood pressure is controlled and blood pressure is dropped to the 130's and below.
Godhand,
Interesting comment. But seldom mentioned in the literature.
I wondered what your experience with hypertrophy/enlargement was?
Any direct experience of reversal - and what sort of meds were associated with that?
Thanks.
Godhand,
Interesting comment. But seldom mentioned in the literature.
I wondered what your experience with hypertrophy/enlargement was?
Any direct experience of reversal - and what sort of meds were associated with that?
Thanks.
harka
10-15-2008, 01:17 AM
If one has true left ventricular hypertrophy and is having diastolic dysfunction (i.e. the heart can't fill properly because the walls have become so thick), angiotensin receptor blockers (i.e. ARBs), dihydropyridine calcium channel blockers (i.e. amlodipine) and angiotensin coverting enzyme inhibitors (ACEis) have been shown to decrease LV mass and thus reverse LV hypertrophy. This has actually been in the "literature" a lot in the last 10 years or so.
Beefsteak
10-15-2008, 12:17 PM
.... angiotensin receptor blockers (i.e. ARBs), dihydropyridine calcium channel blockers (i.e. amlodipine) and angiotensin coverting enzyme inhibitors (ACEis) have been shown to decrease LV mass and thus reverse LV hypertrophy. This has actually been in the "literature" a lot in the last 10 years or so.
CG, Thanks. I wondered if you knew of any research papers where such medication has been shown to reduce heart mass? I have seen it mentioned here and on websites but I have not seen the work reported. However, I am not able to access the full med literature, and of course I'm far from up-to-date. The meds you mention are the first-line ones for BP reduction, but are you saying reversal is med-specific or that any BP lowering will cause reversal? Do you know if the reversal depends on the amount of lowering - if so this might be a reason for greater lowering (assuming some hypertrophy). I am saying this because my GP seemed to think heart "enlargement" was the normal process for those with any history of elevated BP. Cheers.
CG, Thanks. I wondered if you knew of any research papers where such medication has been shown to reduce heart mass? I have seen it mentioned here and on websites but I have not seen the work reported. However, I am not able to access the full med literature, and of course I'm far from up-to-date. The meds you mention are the first-line ones for BP reduction, but are you saying reversal is med-specific or that any BP lowering will cause reversal? Do you know if the reversal depends on the amount of lowering - if so this might be a reason for greater lowering (assuming some hypertrophy). I am saying this because my GP seemed to think heart "enlargement" was the normal process for those with any history of elevated BP. Cheers.
urbandale
10-17-2008, 01:39 AM
Hi Guys
I've just had my ECG results which showed a normal heart rate, but my Doctor says the reults are Borderline, he did try explaining the reults to me but I was a bit shocked and now that I'm home I don't really understand what he ment, he said that my heart is working harder at certain points of the day, I have been diagnosed with High B/P and have started medication 10 days ago, he did say that the ECG was to show if I had an enlarged heart due to damage being caused from my high blood pressure as he doesnt know how long I've had high B/P for
I also have a borderline ecg reading. At least you have insurance. I'm scared to death. If they tell me it's 100,000 to fix my heart, I'll say go ahead and add a couple more zeros. You'll be just as likely to get that amount from me.
I've just had my ECG results which showed a normal heart rate, but my Doctor says the reults are Borderline, he did try explaining the reults to me but I was a bit shocked and now that I'm home I don't really understand what he ment, he said that my heart is working harder at certain points of the day, I have been diagnosed with High B/P and have started medication 10 days ago, he did say that the ECG was to show if I had an enlarged heart due to damage being caused from my high blood pressure as he doesnt know how long I've had high B/P for
I also have a borderline ecg reading. At least you have insurance. I'm scared to death. If they tell me it's 100,000 to fix my heart, I'll say go ahead and add a couple more zeros. You'll be just as likely to get that amount from me.
Machaon
10-17-2008, 08:31 AM
If one has true left ventricular hypertrophy and is having diastolic dysfunction (i.e. the heart can't fill properly because the walls have become so thick), angiotensin receptor blockers (i.e. ARBs), dihydropyridine calcium channel blockers (i.e. amlodipine) and angiotensin coverting enzyme inhibitors (ACEis) have been shown to decrease LV mass and thus reverse LV hypertrophy. This has actually been in the "literature" a lot in the last 10 years or so.
I've got diastolic dysfunction and thickened left ventricle and septum walls. I've been struggling with heart failure for over 20 years. I was on AceI and CCB and Lasix along with other "CHF helping" medications. Despite these beneficial medications, I continued to slowly get worse, year after year, until 2005 when I went on a strict diet. Since 2005 I've stayed on a very healthy diet and have been getting slowly better.
Whereas, in the past, the slightest activity would leave me with chest pains, heart rhythm problems, difficulty breathing and exhausted, I can now do push-ups and lift weights.
I am not knocking the medications. I consider Ace Inhibitors, CCBs, Beta Blockers, etc., as miracle meds that prolong life and improve the quality of life. But....... meds are not enough.
I've got diastolic dysfunction and thickened left ventricle and septum walls. I've been struggling with heart failure for over 20 years. I was on AceI and CCB and Lasix along with other "CHF helping" medications. Despite these beneficial medications, I continued to slowly get worse, year after year, until 2005 when I went on a strict diet. Since 2005 I've stayed on a very healthy diet and have been getting slowly better.
Whereas, in the past, the slightest activity would leave me with chest pains, heart rhythm problems, difficulty breathing and exhausted, I can now do push-ups and lift weights.
I am not knocking the medications. I consider Ace Inhibitors, CCBs, Beta Blockers, etc., as miracle meds that prolong life and improve the quality of life. But....... meds are not enough.
cutiepye
12-29-2008, 07:43 PM
i just got an abnormal ekg unconfirmed and boderline ekg results i had a blood test done on me and she said I had heart palpitations and that I was actively not having a heart attack my beats are high about 145 no high blood pressure i do not understand i do suffer from anxiety where do i go from here because all the blood test were negative but my heart still races scared and confused help!!!!:dizzy: