joe41
11-01-2008, 08:30 PM
New Start Heelies,
Glad to see everyone is progressing, even tho we do have our bad days.
Ed, I had the same thing happen today. Got up foot felt graet, went and did yard work after words foot locked up. Go figure.
everybody, stay strong, positive and of course
Keep Healing Heelies :jester:
Joe
Glad to see everyone is progressing, even tho we do have our bad days.
Ed, I had the same thing happen today. Got up foot felt graet, went and did yard work after words foot locked up. Go figure.
everybody, stay strong, positive and of course
Keep Healing Heelies :jester:
Joe
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Hyper86
11-01-2008, 11:10 PM
Hello Heelies,
I think working overtime on the political mailings the last 3 weeks helped get me back on my feet walking without the crutches, last night we mailed out the last of them & it was great to sleep in this morning.
I walked with my ankle brace & tennis shoe today instead of my walking boot.
It's been raining cats & dogs all day.
I have not felt the foot lock up that Joe & Ed described.
Take Care,
Carole
I think working overtime on the political mailings the last 3 weeks helped get me back on my feet walking without the crutches, last night we mailed out the last of them & it was great to sleep in this morning.
I walked with my ankle brace & tennis shoe today instead of my walking boot.
It's been raining cats & dogs all day.
I have not felt the foot lock up that Joe & Ed described.
Take Care,
Carole
KCguy
11-02-2008, 01:30 AM
Hey everyone
Hope everyone is having a good weekend.
Sbrew, I'm so sorry to hear about your setback. We broke our heels on the same day. I start weight bearing on Nov 12th, hope your leg or hip isn't serious so you can get back on schedule.
Sounds like everyone else is doing good, Ed, Joe, Phil, Jason, Jeremiah and Carole, hope you all keep progressing well. Can't wait to start my WB. In the meantime it's just ROM exercises for now.
Taysha and mydd hope your husbands kick those infections and get back on their feet soon!
Alex
Hope everyone is having a good weekend.
Sbrew, I'm so sorry to hear about your setback. We broke our heels on the same day. I start weight bearing on Nov 12th, hope your leg or hip isn't serious so you can get back on schedule.
Sounds like everyone else is doing good, Ed, Joe, Phil, Jason, Jeremiah and Carole, hope you all keep progressing well. Can't wait to start my WB. In the meantime it's just ROM exercises for now.
Taysha and mydd hope your husbands kick those infections and get back on their feet soon!
Alex
west49
11-02-2008, 03:18 AM
Hi all, I broke both my heels Feb 17 2007, ( fell 30 ft and landed on my feet) Lft no surgery Rft plate 3 screws and 7 threaded rod pins. After my surgery I started to read boards about what to expect. It was very depressing. I stoped reading and focused on getting better.
GO TO PHYSIO AND DO MORE THEN THEY SAY, GO TO THE GYM EVERY DAY, AT HOME MOVE YOUR FEET, PULL YOUR TOES UP AS MUCH AS YOU CAN, WEAR YOUR BOOTS TO BET OR YOU WILL GET PLANTAR FACITUS. I am 95 % normal, you can get better but you have to treat it like your job. Lets face it you have nothing better to do.
P.S As soon as you can, crawl to your car if you can push on the brake you can drive, you just have to put a pillow under your knees to lift your feet of the floor. It is the best therpy you will have.
Good Luck, I promise if you work hard you will be fine, I have no pain exept for my first 10 steps in the morning.
GO TO PHYSIO AND DO MORE THEN THEY SAY, GO TO THE GYM EVERY DAY, AT HOME MOVE YOUR FEET, PULL YOUR TOES UP AS MUCH AS YOU CAN, WEAR YOUR BOOTS TO BET OR YOU WILL GET PLANTAR FACITUS. I am 95 % normal, you can get better but you have to treat it like your job. Lets face it you have nothing better to do.
P.S As soon as you can, crawl to your car if you can push on the brake you can drive, you just have to put a pillow under your knees to lift your feet of the floor. It is the best therpy you will have.
Good Luck, I promise if you work hard you will be fine, I have no pain exept for my first 10 steps in the morning.
mydd
11-02-2008, 09:28 AM
Hey Alex and all
thanks for the good thoughts,iam afraid to even say this out loud ,but my husband has been almost pain free since they took the plate out and is on a 3 times a day antibiotic treatment ,he is in full leg splint and no weight on it of course, is very hard to go back to sitting around again and doing nothing-he also was very acitive,surfing ,bikes ,walks and his job as a shop manager kept him on his feet all day.
carole hope you are better also after your fall.
everyone else keep getting better!
MYDD:)
thanks for the good thoughts,iam afraid to even say this out loud ,but my husband has been almost pain free since they took the plate out and is on a 3 times a day antibiotic treatment ,he is in full leg splint and no weight on it of course, is very hard to go back to sitting around again and doing nothing-he also was very acitive,surfing ,bikes ,walks and his job as a shop manager kept him on his feet all day.
carole hope you are better also after your fall.
everyone else keep getting better!
MYDD:)
triguy450
11-02-2008, 09:38 AM
Hi all,
Sbrew, OMG....I'm sooooo sorry about your fall. I hope you are OK now...this wasn't 2 steps back, but a giant leap. I feel your pain and anguish, I really do. If you need some cheering up you can call me anytime...seriously. 856-217-7684. More importantly, please don't let this get into your head about total recovery. Stay positive and focused. I hooe your husband wil help you with that too. If you need an ear.....don't hesitate. Please let us know how the Xrays go tomorrow too.
Yes Joe, same thing happened last night. Felt great all day, did lots of walking yesterday, 4 mile bike ride, dinner time, things started to lock up. This morning I'm a little sore, but I'll probably back off and take it easy today.
Carole, everything sounds good for your progress. I hope you don't feel the lock up's we have. Keep up the good work...
Nothing from Taysha, so she must be on that boat. LOL Good to hear that.
West 49, thank you for the uplifting spirit of your recovery. I too have trouble with the 1st ten steps in the morning. You hit the nail on the head, treat this like a full time job and it will get better over time. Did you feel the tendon and ligament locks up like Joe and I are getting? Things move well for a while thne get tight again? How long before this went away? My PT told me it's going to be a while.
That is the 1st time I heard about Plantar's Facitusif you don't wear boots. Is there a reason for this?
Alex, we're counting the days with you. 11 to go.
Keep healing heelies,
Ed
Sbrew, OMG....I'm sooooo sorry about your fall. I hope you are OK now...this wasn't 2 steps back, but a giant leap. I feel your pain and anguish, I really do. If you need some cheering up you can call me anytime...seriously. 856-217-7684. More importantly, please don't let this get into your head about total recovery. Stay positive and focused. I hooe your husband wil help you with that too. If you need an ear.....don't hesitate. Please let us know how the Xrays go tomorrow too.
Yes Joe, same thing happened last night. Felt great all day, did lots of walking yesterday, 4 mile bike ride, dinner time, things started to lock up. This morning I'm a little sore, but I'll probably back off and take it easy today.
Carole, everything sounds good for your progress. I hope you don't feel the lock up's we have. Keep up the good work...
Nothing from Taysha, so she must be on that boat. LOL Good to hear that.
West 49, thank you for the uplifting spirit of your recovery. I too have trouble with the 1st ten steps in the morning. You hit the nail on the head, treat this like a full time job and it will get better over time. Did you feel the tendon and ligament locks up like Joe and I are getting? Things move well for a while thne get tight again? How long before this went away? My PT told me it's going to be a while.
That is the 1st time I heard about Plantar's Facitusif you don't wear boots. Is there a reason for this?
Alex, we're counting the days with you. 11 to go.
Keep healing heelies,
Ed
Hyper86
11-02-2008, 11:11 AM
Hello Heelies,
West49: Welcome to the board!
Recent calcaneus 2008 boards have better results than older ones for sure.
You sure are right about driving, it felt so good to jump in my car & drive to the farmers market 3 days after my injury on my birthday 6/14.
About the 1st 10 steps, guess we have to get warmed up just like old cars HA HA.
Alex: Glad your keeping an eye on us.
Mydd: I'm not the one who fell thank goodness it was Sbrew, but thank you, glad your hubby's feeling better.
Ed: I'm going to try to find a bike to ride today.
Sbrew: Watch your step, be carefull.
Heelies Have a Great Sunday!
Carole
West49: Welcome to the board!
Recent calcaneus 2008 boards have better results than older ones for sure.
You sure are right about driving, it felt so good to jump in my car & drive to the farmers market 3 days after my injury on my birthday 6/14.
About the 1st 10 steps, guess we have to get warmed up just like old cars HA HA.
Alex: Glad your keeping an eye on us.
Mydd: I'm not the one who fell thank goodness it was Sbrew, but thank you, glad your hubby's feeling better.
Ed: I'm going to try to find a bike to ride today.
Sbrew: Watch your step, be carefull.
Heelies Have a Great Sunday!
Carole
mydd
11-02-2008, 11:31 AM
so sorry carole for the mistake and am i do hope sbrew is better ,really dont need any setbacks ,thanks for the good thoughts also carole.
trying to keep up with the site on how everyone is doing.
funny statement about the warming up like an old car--hub has to tap his foot on the floor before he could take a step to get going(before this operation).
hope everyone is having a good weekend!
mydd
trying to keep up with the site on how everyone is doing.
funny statement about the warming up like an old car--hub has to tap his foot on the floor before he could take a step to get going(before this operation).
hope everyone is having a good weekend!
mydd
joe41
11-02-2008, 06:04 PM
Hey Heelies,
West49, it seems that when I push it I pay for it the next day worst than before I pushed it. Did you experience this?
Sbrew, I hope you are okay after your fall.
Alex, before you know it you'll be complaining about pushing too.
MYDD, good to hear about the pain reduction, hang in there.
Carole, I hear 3 wheelers are real safe :D have fun. You start PT soon, yes?
Ed, I have PT tomorrow I will ask about this locking up thing and what she recommends.
Pat, Jason, Jeremiah, Miles, Stew how are you all doing?
How about those Phillies!
Hey, stay strong, positive and of course
Keep Healing Heelies :jester:
Joe
West49, it seems that when I push it I pay for it the next day worst than before I pushed it. Did you experience this?
Sbrew, I hope you are okay after your fall.
Alex, before you know it you'll be complaining about pushing too.
MYDD, good to hear about the pain reduction, hang in there.
Carole, I hear 3 wheelers are real safe :D have fun. You start PT soon, yes?
Ed, I have PT tomorrow I will ask about this locking up thing and what she recommends.
Pat, Jason, Jeremiah, Miles, Stew how are you all doing?
How about those Phillies!
Hey, stay strong, positive and of course
Keep Healing Heelies :jester:
Joe
triguy450
11-02-2008, 07:00 PM
Hi All,
Joe, Really strange day. I decided to weed wack and edge my lawn today. 1st time since mid July before my injury. Felt great all morning, then it started to tighten on me. (not the achilles but the one that runs down the outside just behind the ankle) It gets painful at times, yet other times it's no bother at all.
Anyway, I tripped on a hole, (hurt like H) but after moving around a bit it wasn't locked up anymore. I finished the yardwork, and put things away...15 minutes later, everything was tight again. I only wish I understood why....
I will see my PT tomorrow too. I know she'll say, Ed...It's all part of the healing..... Yes, OK Laura, you've said that before, but why? LOL Any ideas
West? Thanks for jumping back in....
Carole, did you get to ride your bike today? I took today off.
Ed
Joe, Really strange day. I decided to weed wack and edge my lawn today. 1st time since mid July before my injury. Felt great all morning, then it started to tighten on me. (not the achilles but the one that runs down the outside just behind the ankle) It gets painful at times, yet other times it's no bother at all.
Anyway, I tripped on a hole, (hurt like H) but after moving around a bit it wasn't locked up anymore. I finished the yardwork, and put things away...15 minutes later, everything was tight again. I only wish I understood why....
I will see my PT tomorrow too. I know she'll say, Ed...It's all part of the healing..... Yes, OK Laura, you've said that before, but why? LOL Any ideas
West? Thanks for jumping back in....
Carole, did you get to ride your bike today? I took today off.
Ed
Hyper86
11-02-2008, 10:21 PM
Hello Heelies,
Joe: How did you know what kind of driver I am? :D
About 20 years ago I wrecked on a 3 wheeler up in the Boisey Cascades of ID, I saw a V shaped gap in the snow & thought I could plow right through it, nope it was solid tipped over my nefews 3 wheeler on top of my leg ouch.
Ed: I did not find a small bike to ride today but I walked around the farmers market a lot.
Yesterday I was able to jump over wide running water in rain gutter on an uneven surface.
Yes I'm accident prone, never got hurt bad till I shattered my heel, I never forget it could have been worst.
I must have an angel looking over my shoulder. :angel:
Hope ya' all have no more lock-ups
Carole
Joe: How did you know what kind of driver I am? :D
About 20 years ago I wrecked on a 3 wheeler up in the Boisey Cascades of ID, I saw a V shaped gap in the snow & thought I could plow right through it, nope it was solid tipped over my nefews 3 wheeler on top of my leg ouch.
Ed: I did not find a small bike to ride today but I walked around the farmers market a lot.
Yesterday I was able to jump over wide running water in rain gutter on an uneven surface.
Yes I'm accident prone, never got hurt bad till I shattered my heel, I never forget it could have been worst.
I must have an angel looking over my shoulder. :angel:
Hope ya' all have no more lock-ups
Carole
The J
11-03-2008, 12:28 AM
Hello Everyone:
Joe, thanks for asking. I'm doing well, less and less pain. I went today without any advil, usually I have at least one a day. I figured I would give my liver a break :D I'm still in a boot and I have resorted to using two pairs of socks to keep my foot warm. I'm not sure if the rest of you have experienced it but when my foot gets cold it hurts like a female dogs son. I've resorted to a crew sock and a hiking sock to help insulate my foot. Yes, 52F is cold to me. :)
Sorry to hear about those who unfortunately took some backwards slides recently. We're all rooting for you because we all have been there at some point in time.
Keep healing everyone.
Jason
Joe, thanks for asking. I'm doing well, less and less pain. I went today without any advil, usually I have at least one a day. I figured I would give my liver a break :D I'm still in a boot and I have resorted to using two pairs of socks to keep my foot warm. I'm not sure if the rest of you have experienced it but when my foot gets cold it hurts like a female dogs son. I've resorted to a crew sock and a hiking sock to help insulate my foot. Yes, 52F is cold to me. :)
Sorry to hear about those who unfortunately took some backwards slides recently. We're all rooting for you because we all have been there at some point in time.
Keep healing everyone.
Jason
west49
11-03-2008, 12:12 PM
Hi
Push it as hard as you can for a day and take 2 days off, then go hard again and repeat.
Here is what I did
Stretch in the morning while still in bed.
walk around for ten minutes in bare feet on hard floor ( this hurts but it gets better fast)
Go to the gym. ride bike, do full body work out ( lots of calve raises on machine) walk around the gym with 25-45 pound plates and focus on your gate, you can do this slowly and work your way up. Also jumping squats work good but they take a year or so to get help full. STRETCH
As far plantar facitus goes it is from not walking properly, you have to when you walk focus on your gate, this means, heel first then going all the way over on to your toes and push off. If you walk like a duck the tendons from your toes attach at the base of your heel and they shrink, causing plantar facitus.
I broke both heels but had surgery on my right only.(three months with no weight baring) Doc told me to start weight baring on left foot and walking with crutches while the pins were still in my rt foot. This sounds okay and I was pumped to get going, but you need a good foot to use crutches.
So after crying and screaming for an hour and falling on my face the first step I took, I found a little contraption that was a lifesaver.
Its called Iwalkfree look it up on google, it acts like a good leg and you can use crutches with it.
Also never ever ever walk with a boot that locks your ankle in place and protects you heel, your body is amazing and it wants to get better and wants to walk like it did before.
Also look into the benifts of injecting IGF1LR3 into your upper ankle, I did and I think it helped a lot.( only do this if YOU are comfortable with it, I'M not telling you to do this, just look into it)
Cheers ( Sorry for the spelling and grammer, that is something that will never get better)
Paul
Push it as hard as you can for a day and take 2 days off, then go hard again and repeat.
Here is what I did
Stretch in the morning while still in bed.
walk around for ten minutes in bare feet on hard floor ( this hurts but it gets better fast)
Go to the gym. ride bike, do full body work out ( lots of calve raises on machine) walk around the gym with 25-45 pound plates and focus on your gate, you can do this slowly and work your way up. Also jumping squats work good but they take a year or so to get help full. STRETCH
As far plantar facitus goes it is from not walking properly, you have to when you walk focus on your gate, this means, heel first then going all the way over on to your toes and push off. If you walk like a duck the tendons from your toes attach at the base of your heel and they shrink, causing plantar facitus.
I broke both heels but had surgery on my right only.(three months with no weight baring) Doc told me to start weight baring on left foot and walking with crutches while the pins were still in my rt foot. This sounds okay and I was pumped to get going, but you need a good foot to use crutches.
So after crying and screaming for an hour and falling on my face the first step I took, I found a little contraption that was a lifesaver.
Its called Iwalkfree look it up on google, it acts like a good leg and you can use crutches with it.
Also never ever ever walk with a boot that locks your ankle in place and protects you heel, your body is amazing and it wants to get better and wants to walk like it did before.
Also look into the benifts of injecting IGF1LR3 into your upper ankle, I did and I think it helped a lot.( only do this if YOU are comfortable with it, I'M not telling you to do this, just look into it)
Cheers ( Sorry for the spelling and grammer, that is something that will never get better)
Paul
crossinmo77
11-03-2008, 05:33 PM
Hello fellow heelies!
I'm a newbie to the board. I wish I had found it sooner. I had a MVA on July 31st and broke my heel and my femur. I wheeled away from the hospital with a plate & 9 screws in my heel and a rod and 3 screws in my femur.
I am almost 13 weeks out from my heel surgery, and still have no WB. Does this seem like an abnormally long period of time? I don't revisit my ortho for 3 more weeks. On my last visit, he told me my range of movement in both my my leg and ankle looked great, things were healing nicely in my heel, etc, etc, etc and then told me he'd see me in 6 more weeks. It was like he was building me up before he dropped the bomb on me! LOL!
I don't think they are holding off due to my femur injury, because I was told repeatedly in the hospital that if I had only broken my femur, I would've walked out of there. Yeah, yeah....thanks! I needed to keep hearing that!
I guess I just need to hear some affirmations from people who have experienced all of this before. I'm just feeling frustration from not having walked since July.
-tim
P.S. -- Jason, I know exactly how you are feeling with it hurting when it gets cold. My heel and leg both ache when it gets colder, and it doesn't even have to be that cold.
I'm a newbie to the board. I wish I had found it sooner. I had a MVA on July 31st and broke my heel and my femur. I wheeled away from the hospital with a plate & 9 screws in my heel and a rod and 3 screws in my femur.
I am almost 13 weeks out from my heel surgery, and still have no WB. Does this seem like an abnormally long period of time? I don't revisit my ortho for 3 more weeks. On my last visit, he told me my range of movement in both my my leg and ankle looked great, things were healing nicely in my heel, etc, etc, etc and then told me he'd see me in 6 more weeks. It was like he was building me up before he dropped the bomb on me! LOL!
I don't think they are holding off due to my femur injury, because I was told repeatedly in the hospital that if I had only broken my femur, I would've walked out of there. Yeah, yeah....thanks! I needed to keep hearing that!
I guess I just need to hear some affirmations from people who have experienced all of this before. I'm just feeling frustration from not having walked since July.
-tim
P.S. -- Jason, I know exactly how you are feeling with it hurting when it gets cold. My heel and leg both ache when it gets colder, and it doesn't even have to be that cold.
Hyper86
11-03-2008, 07:34 PM
Hello Heelies,
Tim: Had my surgery for totaly shattered heel 7/3, they put in 9 screws, plate did a bone graft, just in the last week have been able to put away the crutches & walk without them, it's been 4 months today.
Paul: I'm going to try my hardest not to walk like a duck & stay away from my walking boot, it locks my ankle.
My bare foot sure does not like the walking on the hard floor at all but I'll do it anyway.
Thank for the advise!
I don't want to look like a duck.
Carole
Tim: Had my surgery for totaly shattered heel 7/3, they put in 9 screws, plate did a bone graft, just in the last week have been able to put away the crutches & walk without them, it's been 4 months today.
Paul: I'm going to try my hardest not to walk like a duck & stay away from my walking boot, it locks my ankle.
My bare foot sure does not like the walking on the hard floor at all but I'll do it anyway.
Thank for the advise!
I don't want to look like a duck.
Carole
joe41
11-03-2008, 08:36 PM
Hey Heelies,
Ed, went to PT today she said the lock up is part of the process and will happen when I do things I haven't been doing. My foot felt great during PT, so I know it does work but it is frustrating when you stop and it starts to swell and lock up.
Paul, I find that what you say about not pushing every day works for me too. I think going to the gym is a very good idea. Thanks for the come back.
Tim, My Doc. told me it looked like corn flakes when I crushed my heel on 7/7. From what I see how everyone else is doing I have to conclude he did a good job. I also think that maybe the stress of having both the femur and heel on the same leg may have something to do with the longer time to WB for you.
Jason, sorry to hear about the cold affecting your foot. I am going to try that Cryroderm Carole suggested. It sounds like it might be a heat inducing type rub, you my want to consider it.
Carole, I kinda get a sence that you are like the little kid Lilly Tommlin plays in that big rocking chair, so I figured you for a trike :D. I used my boot only for work, which controlled the swelling and let me get around like normal. Other than that, like Paul and TC and many others have said, concentrate on a proper gate / step is the key to recovery from this confounding injury. Well everyone, stay strong, positive and of course
Keep Healing Heelies:jester:
Joe
Ed, went to PT today she said the lock up is part of the process and will happen when I do things I haven't been doing. My foot felt great during PT, so I know it does work but it is frustrating when you stop and it starts to swell and lock up.
Paul, I find that what you say about not pushing every day works for me too. I think going to the gym is a very good idea. Thanks for the come back.
Tim, My Doc. told me it looked like corn flakes when I crushed my heel on 7/7. From what I see how everyone else is doing I have to conclude he did a good job. I also think that maybe the stress of having both the femur and heel on the same leg may have something to do with the longer time to WB for you.
Jason, sorry to hear about the cold affecting your foot. I am going to try that Cryroderm Carole suggested. It sounds like it might be a heat inducing type rub, you my want to consider it.
Carole, I kinda get a sence that you are like the little kid Lilly Tommlin plays in that big rocking chair, so I figured you for a trike :D. I used my boot only for work, which controlled the swelling and let me get around like normal. Other than that, like Paul and TC and many others have said, concentrate on a proper gate / step is the key to recovery from this confounding injury. Well everyone, stay strong, positive and of course
Keep Healing Heelies:jester:
Joe
triguy450
11-03-2008, 08:56 PM
Hello Heelies,
Joe, my PT said the same thing. I woke and my foot felt incredible, I got to PT did eliptical, leg presses 60lbs, no bike, 10 on the treadmill and my usual others. It felt great all day, loose, relaxed, I was able to work on my gait, heel foot, step off..
I managed to cut the lawn too. I have several small hills so I got some lateral movement and all felt good. I iced it for the swelling. After dinner, it started locking on me again. The good news is mild stretching loosens it again.
I agree with Paul, not to push every day. Oh, I also am walking up stairs using my toes like I used to, not the entire foot. Coming down I am almost able to do the same, almost.
Ouch Tim....I'm sorry. It does sound like a long time before WB, but you have to listen to the doc. He has his reasons. I would ask him why so long tho. I'm curious. I don't know if you caught it but I was FWB at 7 weeks post op in a boot. 8 weeks I was FWB in a sneaker....
It is frustrating, but once you start WB it'll come back quickly. You'll be walking in no time. Keep us posted tho....
Jason, so far the cold hasn't become an issue, but when it does, you'll hear the scream from far away....I'll make sure of it. LOL
Carole...wow, you are making some great progress. From the pain you had to what you are doing now is fantastic. I'm really happy for you.
I hope everyone else is doing OK. Sbrew, how is your hip? Any news yet? Mydd and Taysha's hubby I hope are OK too.
Ed
Joe, my PT said the same thing. I woke and my foot felt incredible, I got to PT did eliptical, leg presses 60lbs, no bike, 10 on the treadmill and my usual others. It felt great all day, loose, relaxed, I was able to work on my gait, heel foot, step off..
I managed to cut the lawn too. I have several small hills so I got some lateral movement and all felt good. I iced it for the swelling. After dinner, it started locking on me again. The good news is mild stretching loosens it again.
I agree with Paul, not to push every day. Oh, I also am walking up stairs using my toes like I used to, not the entire foot. Coming down I am almost able to do the same, almost.
Ouch Tim....I'm sorry. It does sound like a long time before WB, but you have to listen to the doc. He has his reasons. I would ask him why so long tho. I'm curious. I don't know if you caught it but I was FWB at 7 weeks post op in a boot. 8 weeks I was FWB in a sneaker....
It is frustrating, but once you start WB it'll come back quickly. You'll be walking in no time. Keep us posted tho....
Jason, so far the cold hasn't become an issue, but when it does, you'll hear the scream from far away....I'll make sure of it. LOL
Carole...wow, you are making some great progress. From the pain you had to what you are doing now is fantastic. I'm really happy for you.
I hope everyone else is doing OK. Sbrew, how is your hip? Any news yet? Mydd and Taysha's hubby I hope are OK too.
Ed
sbrew7
11-03-2008, 09:35 PM
I went to the doctor today to get an x-ray. My hip is broken. I am not really sure of a lot the doctor said because honestly I broke down. I just knew that since I could lift my leg since Saturday that it was just a bad bruise. I have to options and one is surgery...I just can't do that again. The other is that since I am not WB I could let the bone heal because I think he said it was an embedded fracture and in line. There was a lot more but frankly it didn't all register ...I have 24 hours to think about it and get with the doctor that did my foot to talk about the options. It will postpone WB for 6-8 weeks but he did say I could go to PT and work on my foot. There was a lot more but that is enough sharing...Thanks Ed for the phone no..I have not been able to talk about this even with my kids. Joe you are doing great...you too Phil..
Alex, it looks like you are going to zoom past me.
Jeremiah, I was using my crutches....I was at work...I was driving and shopping.....just be careful..accidents happen so quickly.
Carole, I am glad you are doing better and your work is slowing down...I am truly keeping up with everyone and glad the infections are better. Welcome to the newbies.
Alex, it looks like you are going to zoom past me.
Jeremiah, I was using my crutches....I was at work...I was driving and shopping.....just be careful..accidents happen so quickly.
Carole, I am glad you are doing better and your work is slowing down...I am truly keeping up with everyone and glad the infections are better. Welcome to the newbies.
mydd
11-03-2008, 10:17 PM
Sbrew
Iam so sorry to hear about your hip being broken,i know how it is with set backs and second operations-as iam typing this my husband is hooked up to his iv drip for the infection, if the dr is positve that the hip will heal without another operation then that may be the way to go physically and mentally ,i would be a little leary of doing pt while healing the hip also,but i know you have to do what you feel is right.
Keep us posted.:angel:
mydd
Iam so sorry to hear about your hip being broken,i know how it is with set backs and second operations-as iam typing this my husband is hooked up to his iv drip for the infection, if the dr is positve that the hip will heal without another operation then that may be the way to go physically and mentally ,i would be a little leary of doing pt while healing the hip also,but i know you have to do what you feel is right.
Keep us posted.:angel:
mydd
Hyper86
11-03-2008, 11:03 PM
Hello Heelies,
Sbrew: Oh heck just when you got back to work.
I'm really sorry you broke another bone, thats really a royal drag, at least hip is in line & you have a choice.
Try to look on the bright side, it could have been worst, at least the injury is treatable.
Joe: The CryoDerm is super good for pain it sinks in down to the nerve & has more of a cooling effect than heating, the label says fast acting, deep penetrating pain relief from: Muscle strain & sprains, Bursitis, Tendonitis, Arthritis, Joint pain, Backache, I notice it works on headache & sinus pain.
About Lilly Tommlin she was on the TV show LaughIn I use to love to watch that show as a kid, the skit she did playing an old lady hitting the old man was funny too.
Ed: Sounds like your doing a lot & I am doing better Thank you.
Heelies: watch out it's winter, slow down don't hurry, things are wet, slippery & icey.
Carole
Sbrew: Oh heck just when you got back to work.
I'm really sorry you broke another bone, thats really a royal drag, at least hip is in line & you have a choice.
Try to look on the bright side, it could have been worst, at least the injury is treatable.
Joe: The CryoDerm is super good for pain it sinks in down to the nerve & has more of a cooling effect than heating, the label says fast acting, deep penetrating pain relief from: Muscle strain & sprains, Bursitis, Tendonitis, Arthritis, Joint pain, Backache, I notice it works on headache & sinus pain.
About Lilly Tommlin she was on the TV show LaughIn I use to love to watch that show as a kid, the skit she did playing an old lady hitting the old man was funny too.
Ed: Sounds like your doing a lot & I am doing better Thank you.
Heelies: watch out it's winter, slow down don't hurry, things are wet, slippery & icey.
Carole
KCguy
11-04-2008, 01:09 AM
Evening folks...
Sbrew, I'm so sorry your hip is broken, you just had to one up all of us didn't you! Just kidding, I'm sure you're feeling down over your setback, just know we're all here to help you through it and if you don't need the surgery hopefully it will heal up quickly. Look at it this way, by the time you can start weight bearing, your heel will just be that much stronger for you.
Joe, Ed and Jason, when I go to the doc next week to get my check up and start WB I'm going to ask them right away to make a key for me so I can keep my ankle from locking on me. Whatdya think, will she laugh when I ask her or just think I'm a moron? Gotta find humor wherever you can.
Carole, you're turning into a real stud with your recovery, you're making all kinds of progress, I'm happy for you, keep setting the pace for us!
Tim, welcome to the thread, I didn't break my femur like you did, but my doc has be waiting almost 10 weeks post op to start WB, that's longer than most here, but I'm trying to be a good patient and wait like she says. Although the more I cheat with more exercises and experimentation and disclose it here, the more I find out most everyone else here has done the same thing!!!
mydd hope your hubby just keeps beating that infection so he's up and dancing with you soon!
I'll be glad when I can get back to yard work like some of you, that way I can go fix Ed's flower bed where Jason rode his ATV through it. ssssshhhhh!
Anyone I've forgotton please forgive me, let's keep recovering everyone and get back to things we enjoyed before that moment of the big owwiieeee.....
Stay positive!
Alex
Sbrew, I'm so sorry your hip is broken, you just had to one up all of us didn't you! Just kidding, I'm sure you're feeling down over your setback, just know we're all here to help you through it and if you don't need the surgery hopefully it will heal up quickly. Look at it this way, by the time you can start weight bearing, your heel will just be that much stronger for you.
Joe, Ed and Jason, when I go to the doc next week to get my check up and start WB I'm going to ask them right away to make a key for me so I can keep my ankle from locking on me. Whatdya think, will she laugh when I ask her or just think I'm a moron? Gotta find humor wherever you can.
Carole, you're turning into a real stud with your recovery, you're making all kinds of progress, I'm happy for you, keep setting the pace for us!
Tim, welcome to the thread, I didn't break my femur like you did, but my doc has be waiting almost 10 weeks post op to start WB, that's longer than most here, but I'm trying to be a good patient and wait like she says. Although the more I cheat with more exercises and experimentation and disclose it here, the more I find out most everyone else here has done the same thing!!!
mydd hope your hubby just keeps beating that infection so he's up and dancing with you soon!
I'll be glad when I can get back to yard work like some of you, that way I can go fix Ed's flower bed where Jason rode his ATV through it. ssssshhhhh!
Anyone I've forgotton please forgive me, let's keep recovering everyone and get back to things we enjoyed before that moment of the big owwiieeee.....
Stay positive!
Alex
The J
11-04-2008, 01:32 AM
Sbrew:
My heart sank when I read about your hip. I'm really sorry you have to go through that along with the ankle injury. If there is anything we/I can do don't be afraid to ask.
Alex: You ratted me out!
Ed: I swear I didn't wipe out YOUR flower bed, maybe someone else's :D
The cold doesn't cause a sharp pain for me, it's more of a dull ache that gets worse the colder it gets.
Joe/Carole: I'll look into the Cryroderm but I have a feeling that this is going to be a long term problem not necessarily fixable with a cream. Something having to do with the expansion/contraction of the metal due to temperature. Every little bit hurts I would imagine.
I have a Dr. appointment on the 5th and I came up with a new saying.
"What the doctor doesn't know won't hurt me" :D
Good luck everyone and keep in good spirits.
Jason
My heart sank when I read about your hip. I'm really sorry you have to go through that along with the ankle injury. If there is anything we/I can do don't be afraid to ask.
Alex: You ratted me out!
Ed: I swear I didn't wipe out YOUR flower bed, maybe someone else's :D
The cold doesn't cause a sharp pain for me, it's more of a dull ache that gets worse the colder it gets.
Joe/Carole: I'll look into the Cryroderm but I have a feeling that this is going to be a long term problem not necessarily fixable with a cream. Something having to do with the expansion/contraction of the metal due to temperature. Every little bit hurts I would imagine.
I have a Dr. appointment on the 5th and I came up with a new saying.
"What the doctor doesn't know won't hurt me" :D
Good luck everyone and keep in good spirits.
Jason
triguy450
11-04-2008, 08:40 AM
Good Morning Heelies,
I don't know where to begin, I feel such happiness for those who are making great strides and yet so much sadness for Sbrew....I am soooo sorry, you heard it from Jason too....if there is anything any of us can do, please don't hesitate. Call me if you need to.
My thoughts on the break, if the hip break is in line and can heal on it's own, I would certainly opt for no surgery. If you are able, continue moving your foot as necessary to keep things loose. Ask the doc if there are any strength building items you can do too. If you stop now, the extra 6-8 weeks will really create havoc on your ankle joint and will take you that much longer to use your foot again.
Carole, thank you for the info re: Cryoderm. I might try it and see if it does help loosening up the ligaments and tendons.
Alex, when you go see the doc next week I am going make sure it is Dr House. You know his favorite saying? LOL I think asking for a key might be a little over the top...but cute.
Jason, I love the quotes you come up with....what the doc doesn't know....LOL Keep us all laughing.
I am really happy my flower bed will be fixed soon....
Again, sbrew, you need anything, anything, call or ask the members here. We're here to help you thru this.
Ed
I don't know where to begin, I feel such happiness for those who are making great strides and yet so much sadness for Sbrew....I am soooo sorry, you heard it from Jason too....if there is anything any of us can do, please don't hesitate. Call me if you need to.
My thoughts on the break, if the hip break is in line and can heal on it's own, I would certainly opt for no surgery. If you are able, continue moving your foot as necessary to keep things loose. Ask the doc if there are any strength building items you can do too. If you stop now, the extra 6-8 weeks will really create havoc on your ankle joint and will take you that much longer to use your foot again.
Carole, thank you for the info re: Cryoderm. I might try it and see if it does help loosening up the ligaments and tendons.
Alex, when you go see the doc next week I am going make sure it is Dr House. You know his favorite saying? LOL I think asking for a key might be a little over the top...but cute.
Jason, I love the quotes you come up with....what the doc doesn't know....LOL Keep us all laughing.
I am really happy my flower bed will be fixed soon....
Again, sbrew, you need anything, anything, call or ask the members here. We're here to help you thru this.
Ed
crossinmo77
11-04-2008, 01:37 PM
I am so impressed by this forum! The way everyone knows what's going on in each other's lives. I'm going to have to read back on some posts, so I can get caught up.
Please forgive my ignorance, but when I finally get to progress to partial WB, how will I do it? Put less of my body weight on my crutches; use only one crutch? Will I have the same 90 degree aircast boot or progress to something else? I realize that every doctor is different, I'm just curious what you all (or y'all for the hicks out there) have experienced.
Alex -- I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one who has experimented and cheated a little. I'm not getting TOO brave, because I don't want to start this journey over again! ;)
Please forgive my ignorance, but when I finally get to progress to partial WB, how will I do it? Put less of my body weight on my crutches; use only one crutch? Will I have the same 90 degree aircast boot or progress to something else? I realize that every doctor is different, I'm just curious what you all (or y'all for the hicks out there) have experienced.
Alex -- I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one who has experimented and cheated a little. I'm not getting TOO brave, because I don't want to start this journey over again! ;)
triguy450
11-04-2008, 02:15 PM
Hi Tim,
That's the beauty of these boards, is that everyone does know each other's issues and checks on each other. There are some folks who have healed 3 years ago and still come here to give their wisdom and experiences.
I would suggest going back and reading Fractured Calcaneous, then 1 thru 5, this will give you a good perspective of everyone's issues. I'd also do a search of Broken Calcaneous etc and read everything you can on this subject.
This is a tough one to stay positive with and it can really get depressing especially when you can't sleep at 3 or 4 am and trying to stay focused.
FOr the record, everyone on here has cheated at some point or another. My doc told me not to walk bare foot or in sneakers unless I am at PT. Well, I was walking around as soon as I started PT. I also started doing ROM exercises at 4 weeks post op, just to gain some movement. It not only helps physically but emotionally.
Don't apologize for ignorance, that is why we are all here, to help each other.
I went to the doc 7 weeks post op. He told me to get rid of the crutches in 5days. I really thought I would be able to do exactly that.....well 2 weeks later I was finally off the crutches but still in the boot. The 1st week, the pain was excrutiating at times, but as I applied more weight and my ankle adjusted to the new sensations, it became easier....
Exactly as you stated, apply a little pressure each day using both crutches. If it's too much, don't be afraid to back off and or take a day off. You have to ease back into this....It's not just the bone, but the muscles, tendons and ligaments that have not been used in 4-8 weeks. They've lost their strength and elasticity. The muscles in your foot have not been used and have to be built up again....It will take time....I've been walking in shoes for sometime and my foot muscles are not where they should be yet.
Don't be in a hurry and don't rush...it'll come, but it's also frustrating too force yourself to wait and be patient. My offer to call me is to you too if you have questions and don't want to type here. 856-217-7684...I'd be happy to speak to you, but I'm not sure I'll respond to y'all.....LOL
The one thing we all have in common is that lack of information the docs give us and share...we all had to find out from each other or on our own. Ask any question you want, someone on here has been thru it and will help you thru it.
Ed
That's the beauty of these boards, is that everyone does know each other's issues and checks on each other. There are some folks who have healed 3 years ago and still come here to give their wisdom and experiences.
I would suggest going back and reading Fractured Calcaneous, then 1 thru 5, this will give you a good perspective of everyone's issues. I'd also do a search of Broken Calcaneous etc and read everything you can on this subject.
This is a tough one to stay positive with and it can really get depressing especially when you can't sleep at 3 or 4 am and trying to stay focused.
FOr the record, everyone on here has cheated at some point or another. My doc told me not to walk bare foot or in sneakers unless I am at PT. Well, I was walking around as soon as I started PT. I also started doing ROM exercises at 4 weeks post op, just to gain some movement. It not only helps physically but emotionally.
Don't apologize for ignorance, that is why we are all here, to help each other.
I went to the doc 7 weeks post op. He told me to get rid of the crutches in 5days. I really thought I would be able to do exactly that.....well 2 weeks later I was finally off the crutches but still in the boot. The 1st week, the pain was excrutiating at times, but as I applied more weight and my ankle adjusted to the new sensations, it became easier....
Exactly as you stated, apply a little pressure each day using both crutches. If it's too much, don't be afraid to back off and or take a day off. You have to ease back into this....It's not just the bone, but the muscles, tendons and ligaments that have not been used in 4-8 weeks. They've lost their strength and elasticity. The muscles in your foot have not been used and have to be built up again....It will take time....I've been walking in shoes for sometime and my foot muscles are not where they should be yet.
Don't be in a hurry and don't rush...it'll come, but it's also frustrating too force yourself to wait and be patient. My offer to call me is to you too if you have questions and don't want to type here. 856-217-7684...I'd be happy to speak to you, but I'm not sure I'll respond to y'all.....LOL
The one thing we all have in common is that lack of information the docs give us and share...we all had to find out from each other or on our own. Ask any question you want, someone on here has been thru it and will help you thru it.
Ed
Hyper86
11-05-2008, 02:21 AM
Hello Heelies,
Alex: You said "I'm turning into a real stud with my recovery" that does not sound right to me, you must be mistaking me for somebody with a set, Joe or Ed maybe HA HA.
Jason: I'll be returning to my home up north for the holidays, it's much colder than the bay area, my foots not going to like the freezing weather, pretty sure it's going to hurt like mad.
Sbrew: How are you doing? hope your pain level is not to high.
Ed: The plate side of my ankle was kind of red & swollen from walking with tennis shoe on, did your ankle do this?
Happy Heel & Hip Healing!
Carole
Alex: You said "I'm turning into a real stud with my recovery" that does not sound right to me, you must be mistaking me for somebody with a set, Joe or Ed maybe HA HA.
Jason: I'll be returning to my home up north for the holidays, it's much colder than the bay area, my foots not going to like the freezing weather, pretty sure it's going to hurt like mad.
Sbrew: How are you doing? hope your pain level is not to high.
Ed: The plate side of my ankle was kind of red & swollen from walking with tennis shoe on, did your ankle do this?
Happy Heel & Hip Healing!
Carole
triguy450
11-05-2008, 09:07 AM
Good Morning Heelies,
I made some small discoveries yesterday and today. Paul wrote the other day with his recovery and he is dead on. Once you start walking w/out the boot, work very hard at taking normal steps....heel, foot and push off the toes. Do as much of this barefoot as possible.
Yesterday I noticed I was walking slightly pidgeon toed, protecting the pain I felt in my forefoot. I then forced myself to use my bad foot the same way I did my good foot. Yes, the muscles are sore and scream at me, but as I use them more, the tendons in my ankle are loosening up more and more. They get a good stretch every time you take a step.
This morning I did't have to do much stretching of the achilles to get moving. I was able to walk around barefoot, things ALMOST feel normal.
OK....Carole, I think you are a stud too the way you have leaped with your walking efforts. Altho, I don't think you have a set, you might have.....ra*&, no I'm not gonna go there. This is not an adult chat room. LOL
Yes, my ankle gets swollen every day. The shoe keeps the blood from making my foot swell, but the ankle still swells and gets red. This is normal...some times Uncomfortable and sometimes not. Doc and PT both say this is part of the healing process. After a lot of walking, bike ride or at the end of the day, I ice it and keep my foot off the floor, but not elevated. This helps a lot, but I'm not concerned about it.
Tim, I did get your message. Thank you for the warning, I was unaware of rule 22.5.7....I will be careful from now on. When is a good time for you generally, I'll shout back today sometime.
Sbrew.... how are you doing today? I am concerned.
Ed
I made some small discoveries yesterday and today. Paul wrote the other day with his recovery and he is dead on. Once you start walking w/out the boot, work very hard at taking normal steps....heel, foot and push off the toes. Do as much of this barefoot as possible.
Yesterday I noticed I was walking slightly pidgeon toed, protecting the pain I felt in my forefoot. I then forced myself to use my bad foot the same way I did my good foot. Yes, the muscles are sore and scream at me, but as I use them more, the tendons in my ankle are loosening up more and more. They get a good stretch every time you take a step.
This morning I did't have to do much stretching of the achilles to get moving. I was able to walk around barefoot, things ALMOST feel normal.
OK....Carole, I think you are a stud too the way you have leaped with your walking efforts. Altho, I don't think you have a set, you might have.....ra*&, no I'm not gonna go there. This is not an adult chat room. LOL
Yes, my ankle gets swollen every day. The shoe keeps the blood from making my foot swell, but the ankle still swells and gets red. This is normal...some times Uncomfortable and sometimes not. Doc and PT both say this is part of the healing process. After a lot of walking, bike ride or at the end of the day, I ice it and keep my foot off the floor, but not elevated. This helps a lot, but I'm not concerned about it.
Tim, I did get your message. Thank you for the warning, I was unaware of rule 22.5.7....I will be careful from now on. When is a good time for you generally, I'll shout back today sometime.
Sbrew.... how are you doing today? I am concerned.
Ed
KCguy
11-05-2008, 12:35 PM
Morning everyone!
OK, let's clarify, I run my own business and we refer to top performers and great leaders as "Studs" because of accomplishments, not the size of your set! LOL! So Carole I was only referring to your great accomplishments, not comparing you to a retired race horse! Now that we got that cleared up, we have new terminology for all of our great performers! A lot of you fit the stud category!
Ed thanks for the notes on the walking properly, etc. That will come in handy as I start WB(officially). We won't talk about what I'm doing unofficially...
I think I have discovered another good exercise. I'm not recommending it, I'm merely sharing my discovery. While on my crutches with both feet on the floor(carpeting actually) I'm splitting weight between my crutches under my arms and my feet, whatever feels comfortable, then leaning forward some with both legs bent at the knees and close together like I'm snow skiing. I just rock that back and forth and it really stretches the muscles, tendons and ligaments on the sides and front of my ankles. It seems to be really loosening them up and this is only the third day I've been doing it. Remember, I'm 8 weeks post-op and haven't been given doctors go ahead yet for weight bearing. I just know a lot of you were full weight bearing at 8 weeks so that's not my story and I'm not stickin to it. If you didn't get that, see Jason's comment about what the doctor don't know can't hurt me...
Anyhow, back to some office work. Everyone have a great day! My prayers go out to all of you for a speedy recovery but I've sending some extra prayers for Sbrew, hang in there!
Alex
P.S. Almost forgot, one quick question everyone, at how many weeks post-op did you your doctor allow you to sleep at night without your boot/aircast? I'm really sick of this thing...
OK, let's clarify, I run my own business and we refer to top performers and great leaders as "Studs" because of accomplishments, not the size of your set! LOL! So Carole I was only referring to your great accomplishments, not comparing you to a retired race horse! Now that we got that cleared up, we have new terminology for all of our great performers! A lot of you fit the stud category!
Ed thanks for the notes on the walking properly, etc. That will come in handy as I start WB(officially). We won't talk about what I'm doing unofficially...
I think I have discovered another good exercise. I'm not recommending it, I'm merely sharing my discovery. While on my crutches with both feet on the floor(carpeting actually) I'm splitting weight between my crutches under my arms and my feet, whatever feels comfortable, then leaning forward some with both legs bent at the knees and close together like I'm snow skiing. I just rock that back and forth and it really stretches the muscles, tendons and ligaments on the sides and front of my ankles. It seems to be really loosening them up and this is only the third day I've been doing it. Remember, I'm 8 weeks post-op and haven't been given doctors go ahead yet for weight bearing. I just know a lot of you were full weight bearing at 8 weeks so that's not my story and I'm not stickin to it. If you didn't get that, see Jason's comment about what the doctor don't know can't hurt me...
Anyhow, back to some office work. Everyone have a great day! My prayers go out to all of you for a speedy recovery but I've sending some extra prayers for Sbrew, hang in there!
Alex
P.S. Almost forgot, one quick question everyone, at how many weeks post-op did you your doctor allow you to sleep at night without your boot/aircast? I'm really sick of this thing...
triguy450
11-05-2008, 12:39 PM
Hey Alex, you stud you,
My doc told me to sleep without the boot at 7 weeks post op. The same time he told me to go ahead and WB and lose the crutches in 5 days. It felt great the 1st night...2nd night I was in pain from WB, but from then on I kept it downstairs.
Ed
My doc told me to sleep without the boot at 7 weeks post op. The same time he told me to go ahead and WB and lose the crutches in 5 days. It felt great the 1st night...2nd night I was in pain from WB, but from then on I kept it downstairs.
Ed
electrician
11-05-2008, 02:45 PM
Hi all, New here. this site has been helpful to me both with info and I see there are many people in my same situation.
My back ground-- sept 3 2008 Spraying for bees in my kids elevated play house, got swarmed jumped over railing about 7 feet, landed on both feet but felt right foot hurt very bad. ER visit revealed shattered calcaneous. went to ortho dr next day, pain was so bad, kept getting nausus and vomitied once in office. Dr admitted me to adjoining hosp. morphine helped but still had pain. had surguery sept 9. Dr found bone in 26 pcs. installed 2 plates and 11 screws.
have appt on nov 20 hope to bear weight. have been doing dr assigned rom exercizes since oct 9.
I am going crazy I used to spend 10 to 12 hrs a day with tools in my hands, reading and tv are not something I normally do for hrs on end.
what can I expect from weight bearing, will I be able to carry heavy loads? Being an electrician I usually carry 60 to 80 lbs regularly and up to 120 once in a while. also I am a volunteer fire fighter carying about 60 lbs of gear (pants, coat, helmt, breathing apparatus) just to enter fire with out stating to work. will my heel allow me to add this much weight to my body?
thanks
keith sorry for the poor spelling
My back ground-- sept 3 2008 Spraying for bees in my kids elevated play house, got swarmed jumped over railing about 7 feet, landed on both feet but felt right foot hurt very bad. ER visit revealed shattered calcaneous. went to ortho dr next day, pain was so bad, kept getting nausus and vomitied once in office. Dr admitted me to adjoining hosp. morphine helped but still had pain. had surguery sept 9. Dr found bone in 26 pcs. installed 2 plates and 11 screws.
have appt on nov 20 hope to bear weight. have been doing dr assigned rom exercizes since oct 9.
I am going crazy I used to spend 10 to 12 hrs a day with tools in my hands, reading and tv are not something I normally do for hrs on end.
what can I expect from weight bearing, will I be able to carry heavy loads? Being an electrician I usually carry 60 to 80 lbs regularly and up to 120 once in a while. also I am a volunteer fire fighter carying about 60 lbs of gear (pants, coat, helmt, breathing apparatus) just to enter fire with out stating to work. will my heel allow me to add this much weight to my body?
thanks
keith sorry for the poor spelling
triguy450
11-05-2008, 03:04 PM
Hello electrician,
Let me be the 1st to greet you here altho I wished I didn't have to. I'm sorry about your situation. If you haven't already please go back thru all the posts starting with Fractured Calcaneous up thru this current one FC 6. There are also other posts such as broken Calnaceous, broken heel bone etc....
Everyone on this board is helpful in some way and we have been thru or are going thru your situation right now. Take the time and read everything you can. A lot of your questions will be answered and you will gets answers you didn't think of.
Me? 7/19 10 foot off a ladder. Broken heel 7 pieces. Surgery 7/31, 1 plate and 11 screws, no WB in a hard cast for 2 weeks. Stitches out 8/15, then a moon boot/air cast until 9/17 still no WB. 9/17 doc told me to get rid of the crutches in 5 days. I tried real hard, but it took 2 weeks with PT. I had a green light to WB 100% at the PT office only....
Xrays again 10/20, doc cleared me from the boot yet still doing PT.
To answer some of your questions. Once the bone heals you will be cleared to do alot, however, because your ankle has been locked in at 90 and you haven't used your calf, foot, ankle muscles and tendons, it will take 4-6 weeks to build them back up again.
You will also have to do ROM exercises to stretch and loosen the tendons and ligaments.
Word of caution and everyone who is going thru or has gone thru WB will tell you....don't push it. The turtle always wins especially with ankle and foot injuries. Be patient and let your foot tell you when it is ready, otherwise you will take 2 steps back before you can move forward again.
You will have pain when you start applying pressure again. My doc told me as tolerated...if you do too much, back off and rest a day. I've done that a few times since 9/17.
I can relate...I am very active, used to go go go.....carrying ladders weight lifting etc....this was a real eye opener and set back in my life. It will be a while before you can work as you describe...heavy weights, climbing ladders and firefighting....forget that for at least 8-9 months maybe more. I'm just being honest.
Your age, weight and how in shape you are all contribute to your recovery. Do you smoke, do you drink etc.....no need to answer just stuff to consider.
I was in shape before the injury and it took me 12 weeks to wlak in shoes again. I would say now, my foot is about 85-90%. I still work out daily and still do PT twice a week.
Again, I'm sorry we met this way, but we're here to help each other and compare notes. When you really feel down in the dumps, check out some of the folks who wound with infections and are set back another 6-7 weeks due to hardware removal and IV anit-biotics. I consider myself real lucky.
Ed
Let me be the 1st to greet you here altho I wished I didn't have to. I'm sorry about your situation. If you haven't already please go back thru all the posts starting with Fractured Calcaneous up thru this current one FC 6. There are also other posts such as broken Calnaceous, broken heel bone etc....
Everyone on this board is helpful in some way and we have been thru or are going thru your situation right now. Take the time and read everything you can. A lot of your questions will be answered and you will gets answers you didn't think of.
Me? 7/19 10 foot off a ladder. Broken heel 7 pieces. Surgery 7/31, 1 plate and 11 screws, no WB in a hard cast for 2 weeks. Stitches out 8/15, then a moon boot/air cast until 9/17 still no WB. 9/17 doc told me to get rid of the crutches in 5 days. I tried real hard, but it took 2 weeks with PT. I had a green light to WB 100% at the PT office only....
Xrays again 10/20, doc cleared me from the boot yet still doing PT.
To answer some of your questions. Once the bone heals you will be cleared to do alot, however, because your ankle has been locked in at 90 and you haven't used your calf, foot, ankle muscles and tendons, it will take 4-6 weeks to build them back up again.
You will also have to do ROM exercises to stretch and loosen the tendons and ligaments.
Word of caution and everyone who is going thru or has gone thru WB will tell you....don't push it. The turtle always wins especially with ankle and foot injuries. Be patient and let your foot tell you when it is ready, otherwise you will take 2 steps back before you can move forward again.
You will have pain when you start applying pressure again. My doc told me as tolerated...if you do too much, back off and rest a day. I've done that a few times since 9/17.
I can relate...I am very active, used to go go go.....carrying ladders weight lifting etc....this was a real eye opener and set back in my life. It will be a while before you can work as you describe...heavy weights, climbing ladders and firefighting....forget that for at least 8-9 months maybe more. I'm just being honest.
Your age, weight and how in shape you are all contribute to your recovery. Do you smoke, do you drink etc.....no need to answer just stuff to consider.
I was in shape before the injury and it took me 12 weeks to wlak in shoes again. I would say now, my foot is about 85-90%. I still work out daily and still do PT twice a week.
Again, I'm sorry we met this way, but we're here to help each other and compare notes. When you really feel down in the dumps, check out some of the folks who wound with infections and are set back another 6-7 weeks due to hardware removal and IV anit-biotics. I consider myself real lucky.
Ed
diva94803
11-05-2008, 04:30 PM
Hi I had flat foot reconstruction surgery on october 3,2008 the pain was totally unbarable but i'm doing better now, It's been really hard trying to hop on one foot and just adjust to every day living, I get tired of being home alone daily. I'm still in a hard cast that literally drives me up the wall, let alone the (?) Neuropathy I believe that I have since my surery, My body stays ice cold all the time i'm not sure where this coldness comes form but it really hurts
i didn't have this prior to surgery.
Have any one experience this? If so please advise.
i didn't have this prior to surgery.
Have any one experience this? If so please advise.
mydd
11-05-2008, 04:56 PM
electrician
Am one of the wives of husband who fell of ladder at 10 ft ,foot got caught under rung while his body weight fell on top of that, he is 6 ft 190lbs ,plate and 11 pins ,he is the manager of auto shop on feet all day and a surfer(waves are great today -went to watch for awhile) he went through cast ,brace,shoe boot,and pt,then not healing and found out he was infected this whole time- so now we are back in surgery to remove plate and screws and this is his second round of iv antibiotic and back in soft cast no weight bearing again no pt for another 8 weeks,watching alot of tv and sitting also something he would never think of doing either,now he knows all the "judge shows" lol -we have drs appt tomorrow,am hoping things are healing right this time,do know what this can do to you mentally as well,helps to talk to people here and to have someone close to you that you can help you when you need it.
You are the first person that i have heard of that has 2 plates in though.
let us know how you are coming along ,you seem to be in good physical shape by you occupation so iam sure you will heal in time that is needed with this type of injury -ohh this is all started in march of this year with husbands fall.
mydd:angel:
Am one of the wives of husband who fell of ladder at 10 ft ,foot got caught under rung while his body weight fell on top of that, he is 6 ft 190lbs ,plate and 11 pins ,he is the manager of auto shop on feet all day and a surfer(waves are great today -went to watch for awhile) he went through cast ,brace,shoe boot,and pt,then not healing and found out he was infected this whole time- so now we are back in surgery to remove plate and screws and this is his second round of iv antibiotic and back in soft cast no weight bearing again no pt for another 8 weeks,watching alot of tv and sitting also something he would never think of doing either,now he knows all the "judge shows" lol -we have drs appt tomorrow,am hoping things are healing right this time,do know what this can do to you mentally as well,helps to talk to people here and to have someone close to you that you can help you when you need it.
You are the first person that i have heard of that has 2 plates in though.
let us know how you are coming along ,you seem to be in good physical shape by you occupation so iam sure you will heal in time that is needed with this type of injury -ohh this is all started in march of this year with husbands fall.
mydd:angel:
joan53
11-05-2008, 06:25 PM
I had surgery June 22, 2007, Plate and 7 screws. I am scheduled to have hardware removal this Friday, November 7, How long has recovery been for your husband? I am dreading going through this again. Anxious to hear from someone who has been there already.
mydd
11-05-2008, 06:48 PM
joan
the surgery to take out the plate was just this past oct 28th so he has 8 weeks none wb,but he is so pain free right now its amazing after 7 months of so much pain,can i ask why you are having your plate taken out??
MYDD
the surgery to take out the plate was just this past oct 28th so he has 8 weeks none wb,but he is so pain free right now its amazing after 7 months of so much pain,can i ask why you are having your plate taken out??
MYDD
The J
11-05-2008, 08:52 PM
Keith:
Sorry to hear about your injury. I have a similar injury, 10 screws and a plate but had to have the heel and the talus fused together. When I asked my doc about returning to volunteer firefighting he said that he honestly couldn't tell me. Our situations are a bit different but try to prove the doctors wrong.
I went to the doc today and after looking at the x-rays he said that the sub-talar fusion hasn't healed fully yet so I am sentenced to another month in the boot then maybe PT after that. My personal diagnosis is far different but I will continue to use the boot but I'm going to start doing more PT exercises.
"You can tell a heelie to wait and take it slow but you can't make them listen"
Jason
Sorry to hear about your injury. I have a similar injury, 10 screws and a plate but had to have the heel and the talus fused together. When I asked my doc about returning to volunteer firefighting he said that he honestly couldn't tell me. Our situations are a bit different but try to prove the doctors wrong.
I went to the doc today and after looking at the x-rays he said that the sub-talar fusion hasn't healed fully yet so I am sentenced to another month in the boot then maybe PT after that. My personal diagnosis is far different but I will continue to use the boot but I'm going to start doing more PT exercises.
"You can tell a heelie to wait and take it slow but you can't make them listen"
Jason
electrician
11-05-2008, 11:38 PM
jason, when did you break your heel? I only had the splint after surgury on for 2 weeks the hard cast on for 2 weeks. Now I have a boot on to take off for exercise.
I had just joined a new fire department due to moving and was cleared to go on calls just the nite before I got hurt. Fire dept rules are that I take 36 hrs of training per year. I am Pennsylvania Firefighter 1 and 2 certified. are you aware of any free online courses? tried National fire academy,and found a ranch house fire senario but have to wait till tomorrow b/c of registration online.
I had just joined a new fire department due to moving and was cleared to go on calls just the nite before I got hurt. Fire dept rules are that I take 36 hrs of training per year. I am Pennsylvania Firefighter 1 and 2 certified. are you aware of any free online courses? tried National fire academy,and found a ranch house fire senario but have to wait till tomorrow b/c of registration online.
Hyper86
11-05-2008, 11:47 PM
Jason,
Hope you don't mind my opinion.
I think you should take it easy after all you do have the fusion healing issue.
This may not be the time to test & push your foot.
Your Dr. knows best, please listen to him, don't take a chance doing something to mess up his work, he only has what is best for you in mind.
Take Care!
Carole
Hope you don't mind my opinion.
I think you should take it easy after all you do have the fusion healing issue.
This may not be the time to test & push your foot.
Your Dr. knows best, please listen to him, don't take a chance doing something to mess up his work, he only has what is best for you in mind.
Take Care!
Carole
Tripod123
11-06-2008, 12:09 AM
Hi Gang.
Sbrew: Really sorry to hear about your accident. Hang in there. A little more delay, but you will get to the finish line.
Alex: After much begging, at about 5 weeks, doc let me sleep without the boot. Funny thing is, on a handful of occasions, I have still slept with it on loosely when foot wouldn't quiet down and the angle seemed to help. Until then, he was trying to avoid plantars what ever it's called.
Well, on a positive note, today I rejoined the world of the WB! I am 8 weeks post-op. Had appt this morning, X-Rays show good healing and joint alignment. So I got the green light. And as often stated, every doc has a different plan. I am limited to walking in my black velcro boot. Not sure what an aircast is, but mine isn't. I am to limit the weight to fifty pounds for the first four days, then go to 75 pounds for 4 days, then 100 etc. until I get to my full weight of 190 pounds. So, it looks like about 4 weeks to full WB. This seems to be a conservative approach, but the doc said it gives the bone extra time to harden in response to the load applied.
I asked about PT but the doc was luke warm about the need, telling me to continue the same basic ROM exercises I've been doing since 2 weeks post op. I am thinking I might want to be a little more proactive in that department. Someone (Ed, maybe?) earlier volunteered to fax his PT exercises. If that offer is still out there, I would love it. My fax is 616-776-0037.
Finally, as to my first "walk" today, sunny day in 70's -- record high for us this time of year. I cruised all the way around the block downtown, taking medium paced and deliberate steps, trying to get a proper stride while wondering what the heck 50 pounds feels like. I am sure that to the lunch time crowd, I looked like a disabled fifty year old guy crutching his way down the sidewalk, but as you know, I was walking. I thought I was going to cry.
Tonight, my foot is swollen a little more than usual, and my calf is wondering why vacation is over, and that's ok by me.
Regards.
Phil
you nall know I really was walking again. I realize that everyone who went by thought they were looking at some poor fifty year old guy struggling down the sidewalk on crutches, but you all know that they were seeing
Sbrew: Really sorry to hear about your accident. Hang in there. A little more delay, but you will get to the finish line.
Alex: After much begging, at about 5 weeks, doc let me sleep without the boot. Funny thing is, on a handful of occasions, I have still slept with it on loosely when foot wouldn't quiet down and the angle seemed to help. Until then, he was trying to avoid plantars what ever it's called.
Well, on a positive note, today I rejoined the world of the WB! I am 8 weeks post-op. Had appt this morning, X-Rays show good healing and joint alignment. So I got the green light. And as often stated, every doc has a different plan. I am limited to walking in my black velcro boot. Not sure what an aircast is, but mine isn't. I am to limit the weight to fifty pounds for the first four days, then go to 75 pounds for 4 days, then 100 etc. until I get to my full weight of 190 pounds. So, it looks like about 4 weeks to full WB. This seems to be a conservative approach, but the doc said it gives the bone extra time to harden in response to the load applied.
I asked about PT but the doc was luke warm about the need, telling me to continue the same basic ROM exercises I've been doing since 2 weeks post op. I am thinking I might want to be a little more proactive in that department. Someone (Ed, maybe?) earlier volunteered to fax his PT exercises. If that offer is still out there, I would love it. My fax is 616-776-0037.
Finally, as to my first "walk" today, sunny day in 70's -- record high for us this time of year. I cruised all the way around the block downtown, taking medium paced and deliberate steps, trying to get a proper stride while wondering what the heck 50 pounds feels like. I am sure that to the lunch time crowd, I looked like a disabled fifty year old guy crutching his way down the sidewalk, but as you know, I was walking. I thought I was going to cry.
Tonight, my foot is swollen a little more than usual, and my calf is wondering why vacation is over, and that's ok by me.
Regards.
Phil
you nall know I really was walking again. I realize that everyone who went by thought they were looking at some poor fifty year old guy struggling down the sidewalk on crutches, but you all know that they were seeing
Hyper86
11-06-2008, 12:27 AM
Hello Phil,
Thats great!
They saw a guy who had a bad injury, who has been through a lot & working hard at taking the first steps toward being back on his own 2 feet again 100%
Good Going!
Carole
Thats great!
They saw a guy who had a bad injury, who has been through a lot & working hard at taking the first steps toward being back on his own 2 feet again 100%
Good Going!
Carole
The J
11-06-2008, 01:45 AM
Keith:
I broke my heel on July 18th and had surgery on July 31st. I also had a three sided splint for 2 weeks after surgery then a hard cast for a month and now I am in the boot. I am a California Firefighter 1 and 2 also My dept. till allows me to attend drills but not participate in anything physical, pretty much observing. You might look into that route.
Carole:
I always welcome opinions, I may not agree with them :D but I welcome them. You are right it may not be the time to push and test it but that is my nature and until I find that edge I'm going to push. The doc said that the swelling today was a lot less than he expected it would be at this stage in the game. So I haven't gone too far yet. Thanks for your concern.
Phil: Congratulations on your progress!
Jason
I broke my heel on July 18th and had surgery on July 31st. I also had a three sided splint for 2 weeks after surgery then a hard cast for a month and now I am in the boot. I am a California Firefighter 1 and 2 also My dept. till allows me to attend drills but not participate in anything physical, pretty much observing. You might look into that route.
Carole:
I always welcome opinions, I may not agree with them :D but I welcome them. You are right it may not be the time to push and test it but that is my nature and until I find that edge I'm going to push. The doc said that the swelling today was a lot less than he expected it would be at this stage in the game. So I haven't gone too far yet. Thanks for your concern.
Phil: Congratulations on your progress!
Jason
KCguy
11-06-2008, 11:41 AM
Keith
Welcome to the group, sorry to hear about your injury. Phil and I are probably closest to your time-frame. I broke mine on 8/31 and had surgery on 9/9. Not quite as bad as yours, I just had 3 breaks and 3 titanium screws inserted. I was in a hard cast after surgery for 3 weeks, had that and the staples from surgery removed at the same time and went straight to an aircast/boot. Been doing ROM exercises that doctor prescribed plus some extra stuff I came up with on my own. I go back to the doctor next week on Nov. 12th to begin weight bearing.
I too am very active and it hasn't been easy letting all my planned yard projects for the rest of the summer/fall go by the wayside. I have seen more TV than I ever thought I would, thank God for ESPN, Speed, and DIY network. We're also planning renovation to our farmhouse in Pennsylvania so I've been drawing a lot of plans during that time. That's kept me pretty sane through all of this.
Phil
Way to go, I'm totally happy for your progress, you're on your way and I'm one week behind you, I can't freaking wait...
Jason
Yeah, keep pushing it, you'll know when to back off I'm sure. You're an inspiration, I just want to get up and go reading your posts. Oh yeah, sorry to bust you for Ed's flower bed.:angel:
Ed the stud, what more to say...
mydd
Prayers continue to go out to you and your husband, we all are looking forward to his continued recovery
Sbrew
We're continuing to pull for you, keep it positive, you'll be back on track before you know it!
Everyone else, hang in there, stay positive, we're all in this together. Have a great Thursday!
Alex
Welcome to the group, sorry to hear about your injury. Phil and I are probably closest to your time-frame. I broke mine on 8/31 and had surgery on 9/9. Not quite as bad as yours, I just had 3 breaks and 3 titanium screws inserted. I was in a hard cast after surgery for 3 weeks, had that and the staples from surgery removed at the same time and went straight to an aircast/boot. Been doing ROM exercises that doctor prescribed plus some extra stuff I came up with on my own. I go back to the doctor next week on Nov. 12th to begin weight bearing.
I too am very active and it hasn't been easy letting all my planned yard projects for the rest of the summer/fall go by the wayside. I have seen more TV than I ever thought I would, thank God for ESPN, Speed, and DIY network. We're also planning renovation to our farmhouse in Pennsylvania so I've been drawing a lot of plans during that time. That's kept me pretty sane through all of this.
Phil
Way to go, I'm totally happy for your progress, you're on your way and I'm one week behind you, I can't freaking wait...
Jason
Yeah, keep pushing it, you'll know when to back off I'm sure. You're an inspiration, I just want to get up and go reading your posts. Oh yeah, sorry to bust you for Ed's flower bed.:angel:
Ed the stud, what more to say...
mydd
Prayers continue to go out to you and your husband, we all are looking forward to his continued recovery
Sbrew
We're continuing to pull for you, keep it positive, you'll be back on track before you know it!
Everyone else, hang in there, stay positive, we're all in this together. Have a great Thursday!
Alex
hockeymom18
11-06-2008, 01:13 PM
Hi all,
New here and here is my story. On Sept 10th I had surgery on my right knee for what they thought was a torn meniscus (ended up being bone spurs on knee cap) and a right foot plantar fasciotomy. I was put in a walking boot for 2 weeks post surgery for the foot, the day after I was told I could go back to walking without it I broke my heel. Yes, same leg---it was a total freak thing my entire foot rolled and all my weight was put on my right foot, I heard a loud "pop" when it happened and thought I broke my ankle. ER took x-rays and it showed a 1 inch (approximately) diagonal fracture. ER put me in half cast and I saw the ortho guy the next day. He told me to return to boot and activities as tolerated. They would re-xray in 1 month. They did another x-ray on October 27th he said it is healing, but not healed. So, 3 more weeks for another x-ray--said to continue wearing boot if outside the house, but inside no boot required. I have pain with movement on the right side and top of my foot, and I told him that on last visit--his only reply was it might be the nerves since they are close to the surface of the skin there. I was not real happy with his answer and just have this feeling that something else is wrong--they have never done any tests by x-rays. He has also made not mention of physical therapy after the boot comes off.
So, I tried to put on a shoe last week only to find my foot has grown in both length and width. Is this normal? How do you find shoes that fit? I'm thinking of getting a 2nd opinon, but I'm not sure what to do. My arch is noticable flatter on the right foot also.
Michele
New here and here is my story. On Sept 10th I had surgery on my right knee for what they thought was a torn meniscus (ended up being bone spurs on knee cap) and a right foot plantar fasciotomy. I was put in a walking boot for 2 weeks post surgery for the foot, the day after I was told I could go back to walking without it I broke my heel. Yes, same leg---it was a total freak thing my entire foot rolled and all my weight was put on my right foot, I heard a loud "pop" when it happened and thought I broke my ankle. ER took x-rays and it showed a 1 inch (approximately) diagonal fracture. ER put me in half cast and I saw the ortho guy the next day. He told me to return to boot and activities as tolerated. They would re-xray in 1 month. They did another x-ray on October 27th he said it is healing, but not healed. So, 3 more weeks for another x-ray--said to continue wearing boot if outside the house, but inside no boot required. I have pain with movement on the right side and top of my foot, and I told him that on last visit--his only reply was it might be the nerves since they are close to the surface of the skin there. I was not real happy with his answer and just have this feeling that something else is wrong--they have never done any tests by x-rays. He has also made not mention of physical therapy after the boot comes off.
So, I tried to put on a shoe last week only to find my foot has grown in both length and width. Is this normal? How do you find shoes that fit? I'm thinking of getting a 2nd opinon, but I'm not sure what to do. My arch is noticable flatter on the right foot also.
Michele
Tripod123
11-06-2008, 03:56 PM
I am trying to come up with exercises to do for my atrophy at the beginning of WB. Maybe riding an exercise bike on a low tension setting, so that I am working more on motion than on strength? Anybody that is ahead of me try this early on? Comments on whether this is a good idea, effectiveness, swelling or whatever? I don't have a shoe that fits my bad foot, so maybe wear a sandle?
Regards,
Phil
Regards,
Phil
triguy450
11-06-2008, 04:30 PM
Hi Phil,
Congratulations man...I am really happy for you. WBing after all this time. As much as it hurt, it felt soooo good didn't it? As for guessing the weight? Use a bathroom scale, that will help you figure how much you are putting on that foot.
I would definetely recommend a stationary bicycle. If you can to a Gym and do the lifecycle on low settings, that would be a good start. 5 minutes the
1st 2 weeks, then 8 the 2nd week, then 10 the 3rd week. Just like WBing. Once you get the foot moving and the ankle moving you will get swelling. I started at 3-4 minutes, on the bike twice a week, then 10 minutes per ride the following week.
My PT told me...Try to keep the inflamation to a minimum while working the ankle. Its very important not to over do it in the beginning. Letting it swell too much will be counterproductive. Ease into it slowly. After you are all done, (bike & exercises) ice your ankle for 10 minutes. Fell free to ask about other PT exercises.
Let me know if you got the PT pages. I just sent them. I missed 2 days worth of posts. I did not get email notification again so I am catching up on everyone.
HockeyMoM (your not Sarah Palin are you? LOL) and Phil, If you can find a larger shoe that will help keep the swelling down in your foot. The ankle will swell anyway, but keeping the foot from swelling will help too. I went up a half size out of the moon boot, then back to my normal shoe size 4-6 weeks later. I have seen some folks at PT riding the bike in a sandle.
Michele, I would recommend a 2nd opinion. I believe Xrays are important in letting you know if your heel is ready for WB. The doc may say so, but the Xrays confirm. Does he have WB at all? I think 3 weeks is too soon for that, I hope you are still using crutches. You could rebreak your heel if you WB too soon.
Keith, I hope we aren't freaking you out, but we are all being honest. I'm sorry...
Jason....I have nothing to say, because you don't listen anyway. LOL I meant that to be funny. I'm glad you are still plugging along, I'm sorry about what the doc told you....I was hoping for better progress for you. Don't change a thing man.
Carole, Mydd...no news is good news....Taysha, are you back yet? How is hubby?
Ed
Congratulations man...I am really happy for you. WBing after all this time. As much as it hurt, it felt soooo good didn't it? As for guessing the weight? Use a bathroom scale, that will help you figure how much you are putting on that foot.
I would definetely recommend a stationary bicycle. If you can to a Gym and do the lifecycle on low settings, that would be a good start. 5 minutes the
1st 2 weeks, then 8 the 2nd week, then 10 the 3rd week. Just like WBing. Once you get the foot moving and the ankle moving you will get swelling. I started at 3-4 minutes, on the bike twice a week, then 10 minutes per ride the following week.
My PT told me...Try to keep the inflamation to a minimum while working the ankle. Its very important not to over do it in the beginning. Letting it swell too much will be counterproductive. Ease into it slowly. After you are all done, (bike & exercises) ice your ankle for 10 minutes. Fell free to ask about other PT exercises.
Let me know if you got the PT pages. I just sent them. I missed 2 days worth of posts. I did not get email notification again so I am catching up on everyone.
HockeyMoM (your not Sarah Palin are you? LOL) and Phil, If you can find a larger shoe that will help keep the swelling down in your foot. The ankle will swell anyway, but keeping the foot from swelling will help too. I went up a half size out of the moon boot, then back to my normal shoe size 4-6 weeks later. I have seen some folks at PT riding the bike in a sandle.
Michele, I would recommend a 2nd opinion. I believe Xrays are important in letting you know if your heel is ready for WB. The doc may say so, but the Xrays confirm. Does he have WB at all? I think 3 weeks is too soon for that, I hope you are still using crutches. You could rebreak your heel if you WB too soon.
Keith, I hope we aren't freaking you out, but we are all being honest. I'm sorry...
Jason....I have nothing to say, because you don't listen anyway. LOL I meant that to be funny. I'm glad you are still plugging along, I'm sorry about what the doc told you....I was hoping for better progress for you. Don't change a thing man.
Carole, Mydd...no news is good news....Taysha, are you back yet? How is hubby?
Ed
mydd
11-06-2008, 04:55 PM
Alex and all
Thanks for the good thoughts,hub had a good dr visit today took soft brace/cast off today and got his cam boot,asked for a shorter one this time compared to the knee high one he had the first time.still clunky lol no matter what size.
dr is happy with the wound site-foot has shrunk in size thanks to antibiotic treatments and operation,looks almost "normal".no more herman munster foot!:jester: still have away to go- next operation in 6 weeks to take out the antbitotic beads that are in foot then a some bone filler into a gap that isnt filled in on ankle ,not sure when he will be able to go to wb but thinking its going to be awhile if bone filler is going in?
just happy he is feeling better and seeing some progress even if it is baby steps.
hope you are all doing well,especially sbrew and her fall.
b4us -let me know when u are back from vacation !
MYDD:)
Thanks for the good thoughts,hub had a good dr visit today took soft brace/cast off today and got his cam boot,asked for a shorter one this time compared to the knee high one he had the first time.still clunky lol no matter what size.
dr is happy with the wound site-foot has shrunk in size thanks to antibiotic treatments and operation,looks almost "normal".no more herman munster foot!:jester: still have away to go- next operation in 6 weeks to take out the antbitotic beads that are in foot then a some bone filler into a gap that isnt filled in on ankle ,not sure when he will be able to go to wb but thinking its going to be awhile if bone filler is going in?
just happy he is feeling better and seeing some progress even if it is baby steps.
hope you are all doing well,especially sbrew and her fall.
b4us -let me know when u are back from vacation !
MYDD:)
patw27
11-06-2008, 05:02 PM
Hi Everyone,
Stay positive Sbrew, I feel so hurt for you but you will get there.
I was hoping to ditch crutch this week as I felt so good on Sunday and Monday but it is not to be. For some reason ( probably because I was
walking around indoors without crutch too soon again) Tuesday I woke up with pain in side of knee and horrible pain around outside of ankle and at back of heel - stabbing and burning. I stretched my foot out last night and it was as if all the bones, nerves or tendons or whatever in my foot started to pop, not painful just odd.I think maybe I need to up the PT exercises.
I went to PT today and she just says it takes a long time and I am doing really well considering, she has given me a cane to try so I will use indoors and crutch outside.
We are going on holiday in 2 weeks so hopefully sun and swimming will help.
Keep healing heelies
Pat
Stay positive Sbrew, I feel so hurt for you but you will get there.
I was hoping to ditch crutch this week as I felt so good on Sunday and Monday but it is not to be. For some reason ( probably because I was
walking around indoors without crutch too soon again) Tuesday I woke up with pain in side of knee and horrible pain around outside of ankle and at back of heel - stabbing and burning. I stretched my foot out last night and it was as if all the bones, nerves or tendons or whatever in my foot started to pop, not painful just odd.I think maybe I need to up the PT exercises.
I went to PT today and she just says it takes a long time and I am doing really well considering, she has given me a cane to try so I will use indoors and crutch outside.
We are going on holiday in 2 weeks so hopefully sun and swimming will help.
Keep healing heelies
Pat
hockeymom18
11-06-2008, 05:20 PM
I'm not Sarah Palin, but LOL at the joke!!
I have been full weight bearing while in the boot since the Saturday after the break. Only days of crutches were Thursday night after ER and Friday, as soon as I saw him on Friday he said back in the boot and walking on it the next day. Today makes 5 weeks since the break, they did not do surgery because they said it was non-displaced and would heal on its own. However, my foot now feels like it belongs to someone else and was just attached to my leg!!
I have been full weight bearing while in the boot since the Saturday after the break. Only days of crutches were Thursday night after ER and Friday, as soon as I saw him on Friday he said back in the boot and walking on it the next day. Today makes 5 weeks since the break, they did not do surgery because they said it was non-displaced and would heal on its own. However, my foot now feels like it belongs to someone else and was just attached to my leg!!
Fatso1
11-06-2008, 06:51 PM
Hi all broken heelies. I've been following your posts since May 2008. That is when my husband broke both heels, his tibia and fractured his back. His knee was operated on but not his heels. The dr. said he didn't think that surgery would make it that much better then without surgery. Plus he did not want to risk infection. He also a a huge fracture blister on one ankle. Anyway, he wore casts on his feet up to his knees for about 6 weeks. When the casts came off so did a lot of skin. I scrubbed his feet and massaged them nightly. Thirteen weeks after the fall, the dr. gave him the ok to put as much weigh on his feet he could take. We left the dr. office in the wheel chair, drove straight to a bar - left the wheel chair in the car and have not used it since. He did get a walker, but he desided he didn't want that either. He goes to PT three times a week. Yes - it hurt and yes he took the pain medicine to keep going. He does not take any pills now and yesterday he was able to put his dress shoes on. His ankles look a little funny but we're hoping they too will get better. I really feel sorry for all you people who broke their heel. I hope everyone gets better real soon. Thanks for all your posts. They kept me going. I am kind of quite, that's why I never shared.
Take care.
Take care.
joe41
11-06-2008, 07:22 PM
Hey Heelies,
Michele, I think a second opinion can't hurt. This can be a life changing injury make sure you are comfortable with you treament. My two cents, WB too soon.
Phil, I think you will be Okay with the bike. Listen to your foot and don't push it to hard. My PT said my foot looked real good today. She also said swelling is enemy #1. It prevents healing. My point is that I have backed off pushing my excersices and the results are impressive.
Sbrew, I sure hope your doing better, and know that everyone is pulling for you. Think positive and stay strong, this is a perserverance and patience thing.
Fatso1, Thanks for sharing, Just when you think you have it bad along comes someone who has it or had it a whole lot worse. I hope all goes well for you and your husband.
the rest of you heelies, stay strong, positive and of course
Keep Healing Heelies :jester:
Joe
Michele, I think a second opinion can't hurt. This can be a life changing injury make sure you are comfortable with you treament. My two cents, WB too soon.
Phil, I think you will be Okay with the bike. Listen to your foot and don't push it to hard. My PT said my foot looked real good today. She also said swelling is enemy #1. It prevents healing. My point is that I have backed off pushing my excersices and the results are impressive.
Sbrew, I sure hope your doing better, and know that everyone is pulling for you. Think positive and stay strong, this is a perserverance and patience thing.
Fatso1, Thanks for sharing, Just when you think you have it bad along comes someone who has it or had it a whole lot worse. I hope all goes well for you and your husband.
the rest of you heelies, stay strong, positive and of course
Keep Healing Heelies :jester:
Joe
triguy450
11-06-2008, 08:43 PM
Great news Mydd,
I'm really glad his and you spirits are doing better. Wish I could say one way or the other on WB after the beads come out. I think I read previously it's a matter 1 or 2 weeks then they allow that. I'm sorry, it's been a while.
Pat, you sound like you are doing really well and almost there. Keep your chin up, it will happen....just the past 2-3 weeks I've heard your great progress.
HockeyMom, I'm with Joe on this, I think you are too soon on your foot. If it were my foot, I'd be getting a 2nd opinion.
Mrs Fatso (sorry), please don't be shy, we're all here to help each other. Your husband might have some great news to share that could help someone else on this sight. He sounds like he is well on his way tho. 13 weeks? Both feet....impressive.
Great post Joe.
Ed
I'm really glad his and you spirits are doing better. Wish I could say one way or the other on WB after the beads come out. I think I read previously it's a matter 1 or 2 weeks then they allow that. I'm sorry, it's been a while.
Pat, you sound like you are doing really well and almost there. Keep your chin up, it will happen....just the past 2-3 weeks I've heard your great progress.
HockeyMom, I'm with Joe on this, I think you are too soon on your foot. If it were my foot, I'd be getting a 2nd opinion.
Mrs Fatso (sorry), please don't be shy, we're all here to help each other. Your husband might have some great news to share that could help someone else on this sight. He sounds like he is well on his way tho. 13 weeks? Both feet....impressive.
Great post Joe.
Ed
hockeymom18
11-07-2008, 10:40 AM
Thanks all for your comments and opinions. I almost feel bad saying my foot is not right since I only broke it in two and not the many pieces you all have done. From what I have read not doing surgery has caused the bone to heel flatter and that is why my foot has grown in length. Its not even that issue that is bothersome to me, its the issue with the top of my foot and side by the ankle--I really think I did something to the tendons and ligaments and think maybe an MRI would provide more than the x-ray is showing.
I have researched and found a doctor who is a specialist of foot/ankle injuries and is associated with the best hospital in the St. Louis area. I think I will take my original x-ray from September 25th to her and get a 2nd opinion. Once I went back in a boot I used the walker for about 1.5 weeks, then went to one crutch and then to a cane. At this point I'm pretty much just walking in the boot unless I'm at home then nothing (as the doctor suggetsed). My range of motion is not what it was and my foot just looks deformed compared to the other one and the way I am walking is causing a lot of pain in my knees.
I did return to work this past Monday (per the doctor) and sitting at a desk all day caused LOTS of swelling. By the time I get home and get the boot off, my foot looks like an alien!! ;)
I have researched and found a doctor who is a specialist of foot/ankle injuries and is associated with the best hospital in the St. Louis area. I think I will take my original x-ray from September 25th to her and get a 2nd opinion. Once I went back in a boot I used the walker for about 1.5 weeks, then went to one crutch and then to a cane. At this point I'm pretty much just walking in the boot unless I'm at home then nothing (as the doctor suggetsed). My range of motion is not what it was and my foot just looks deformed compared to the other one and the way I am walking is causing a lot of pain in my knees.
I did return to work this past Monday (per the doctor) and sitting at a desk all day caused LOTS of swelling. By the time I get home and get the boot off, my foot looks like an alien!! ;)
KCguy
11-07-2008, 10:57 AM
Morning everyone
Michele
Sorry for your injury. I would definitely get a second opinion, something is going on with your foot I believe. Don't be afraid to hold your doctors accountable, you're paying the bill. It was the first thing I did with my ortho. I've never had a major injury in my life and I was very concerned it being my heel and all. I wanted to make sure I made a full recovery. First visit my doc(who I believe is very good) just didn't tell me much, just that she was going to schedule the surgery for me. After a couple words she was ready to leave me with an assistant for splinting, etc. I was like NO! She looked at me and I said it wasn't going to be that way, that I had questions for HER! She figured out real quick I wasn't kidding and once she knew what I expected she stayed and answered all my questions. Ask questions, get answers until you're satisfied. Since my first visit my doctor figured out quick I wasn't fooling around and she's been very helpful since. It's your heel, your recovery. What I have found so far in this forum thread is there's a lot of people who have gone through similar experiences and will give you a lot of help and insight to what you can expect with this injury. There is a huge willingness to share information here and to help others get through this. Hope this helps you some! Stay positive and you'll quickly see everyone here is pulling for your full recovery!
For the rest of you hope you're having a great day, the weekend is coming! My prayers go out to all of you for continued recovery and progress!!!
Alex
Michele
Sorry for your injury. I would definitely get a second opinion, something is going on with your foot I believe. Don't be afraid to hold your doctors accountable, you're paying the bill. It was the first thing I did with my ortho. I've never had a major injury in my life and I was very concerned it being my heel and all. I wanted to make sure I made a full recovery. First visit my doc(who I believe is very good) just didn't tell me much, just that she was going to schedule the surgery for me. After a couple words she was ready to leave me with an assistant for splinting, etc. I was like NO! She looked at me and I said it wasn't going to be that way, that I had questions for HER! She figured out real quick I wasn't kidding and once she knew what I expected she stayed and answered all my questions. Ask questions, get answers until you're satisfied. Since my first visit my doctor figured out quick I wasn't fooling around and she's been very helpful since. It's your heel, your recovery. What I have found so far in this forum thread is there's a lot of people who have gone through similar experiences and will give you a lot of help and insight to what you can expect with this injury. There is a huge willingness to share information here and to help others get through this. Hope this helps you some! Stay positive and you'll quickly see everyone here is pulling for your full recovery!
For the rest of you hope you're having a great day, the weekend is coming! My prayers go out to all of you for continued recovery and progress!!!
Alex
hockeymom18
11-07-2008, 11:09 AM
When I asked the last appointment about the pain in the top and side of my foot his reply was something about the nerves being close to the skin there and he walked out the door. I felt like he was blowing me off.
triguy450
11-07-2008, 09:48 PM
Hi HockeyMom,
I am very happy you are going for a 2nd opinion. Start writing down questions that you want answered when you are there. Request an MRI if you can. This shows more of the damage to the bone.
As for the tendons and ligaments, yes, you probably did damage them in some way. You would be amazed at how the foot looks on the inside.
Do a G search on foot ligaments and compare where you hurt, then identify what that item might be.
Can you tell me again how long it has been since you rolled and broke it?
Ed
I am very happy you are going for a 2nd opinion. Start writing down questions that you want answered when you are there. Request an MRI if you can. This shows more of the damage to the bone.
As for the tendons and ligaments, yes, you probably did damage them in some way. You would be amazed at how the foot looks on the inside.
Do a G search on foot ligaments and compare where you hurt, then identify what that item might be.
Can you tell me again how long it has been since you rolled and broke it?
Ed
hockeymom18
11-07-2008, 11:13 PM
It was Thursday September 25th that I rolled and broke the heel, so it was 6 weeks ago yesterday.
triguy450
11-08-2008, 07:38 AM
Hi Michele,
Again, I'm sorry about what you are going thru. I still think you should follow thru with you 2nd opinion, but I'm afraid the heel repair may be too far along but I'm not a doc so I'm just guessing.
My doc told me before surgery to get the swelling down. Elevate, ice etc...he did tell me if it took 3 weeks, it took 3 weeks, it didn't matter and he would rebreak any repair to install hardware.
You are going on 8 weeks from the break. I was told to WB at 7 meaning my heel was repaired. However, if your break is still not properly lined he/she may have a shot at putting hardware in to repair it correctly.
A lot to think about, but get the 2nd opinion 1st. They will give you your options. Please let us know when you do go and what they say?
Phil, Did you receive the information? 2 items....
Ed
Again, I'm sorry about what you are going thru. I still think you should follow thru with you 2nd opinion, but I'm afraid the heel repair may be too far along but I'm not a doc so I'm just guessing.
My doc told me before surgery to get the swelling down. Elevate, ice etc...he did tell me if it took 3 weeks, it took 3 weeks, it didn't matter and he would rebreak any repair to install hardware.
You are going on 8 weeks from the break. I was told to WB at 7 meaning my heel was repaired. However, if your break is still not properly lined he/she may have a shot at putting hardware in to repair it correctly.
A lot to think about, but get the 2nd opinion 1st. They will give you your options. Please let us know when you do go and what they say?
Phil, Did you receive the information? 2 items....
Ed
sandcastles
11-08-2008, 10:48 AM
Hello to all of you “Heelies”,
I am impressed at how you have all come together to help each other through this difficult healing process.
I wish that I had read your threads when I first discovered this board.
My story is that I had surgery on 7.23.08 - a double osteotomy calcaneus (two breaks (surgical) in the heel with bone grafts) - tendon transfers, etc. - surgery was due to pronation of the foot after previous foot surgery. I am fifty - and have osteoporosis (very weak bones).
I am now at the PT stage - Physical therapy has caused my foot to swell terribly. I didn’t have too much pain pre-PT - but holy smokes, I sure have it now. I do ice and elevate ( I have even had to capitulated to taking pain medication again (mostly in the late afternoon and at bedtime). I spoke to the PT and he said “Well, you wanted to get back on your feet quickly, so I am trying to accommodate you” - yikes! I want to be on my feet, but I don’t want to be in this kind of pain and this kind of swelling.
At our 3rd PT session he had me on a “boogy board” type of thing - he was having me twist my ankle from side to side - it hurt terribly - and he then fitted me for Orthoics (oh my goodness talk about pain). I had to cancel my last session due to the swelling and pain.
I so terribly want to regain the strength and stability in my foot - but I don’t want to cause harm by an overzealous PT.
Would any of you be willing to share some of the exercises that you do at home to gain strength and range of motion in your foot?
Thank you for listening, I really appreciate it.
Sandy
I am impressed at how you have all come together to help each other through this difficult healing process.
I wish that I had read your threads when I first discovered this board.
My story is that I had surgery on 7.23.08 - a double osteotomy calcaneus (two breaks (surgical) in the heel with bone grafts) - tendon transfers, etc. - surgery was due to pronation of the foot after previous foot surgery. I am fifty - and have osteoporosis (very weak bones).
I am now at the PT stage - Physical therapy has caused my foot to swell terribly. I didn’t have too much pain pre-PT - but holy smokes, I sure have it now. I do ice and elevate ( I have even had to capitulated to taking pain medication again (mostly in the late afternoon and at bedtime). I spoke to the PT and he said “Well, you wanted to get back on your feet quickly, so I am trying to accommodate you” - yikes! I want to be on my feet, but I don’t want to be in this kind of pain and this kind of swelling.
At our 3rd PT session he had me on a “boogy board” type of thing - he was having me twist my ankle from side to side - it hurt terribly - and he then fitted me for Orthoics (oh my goodness talk about pain). I had to cancel my last session due to the swelling and pain.
I so terribly want to regain the strength and stability in my foot - but I don’t want to cause harm by an overzealous PT.
Would any of you be willing to share some of the exercises that you do at home to gain strength and range of motion in your foot?
Thank you for listening, I really appreciate it.
Sandy
joe41
11-08-2008, 11:20 AM
Hey Heelies, op. 7/15
I thought I would reference when I had my surgery in my salutation, this may help our Heelies to get a reference as to where we all are in the process of recovery. I will do this from know on.
Sandy, so sorry to hear about your injury. I pushed my Doc . for PT but he had me wait till full WB then I started PT. However, the first thing my PT asked when I started PT was if it hurts to stop and let her know. She said we are not here to cause you pain but to help you heal. Several times I tried to do more and she stopped me. As I have come to find out in my case less is more, I don't push it and the results are very impressive. You may want to talk to your PT or change to another.
Michele, I too get pain on the top and side of foot mostly when I push it. Once my foot warms up and I concentrate on taking a proper step the pain goes away. It can't be streesed enough to take a proper step, heel, plant, rock up on ball of foot and push off. You will see that your knee will not hurt you. You may have some discomfort at your toes until those muscles acclimate. I hope this helps.
Ed, thanks, everybody have a great weekend and remember stay strong, positive and of course
Keep Healing Heelies :jester:
Joe
I thought I would reference when I had my surgery in my salutation, this may help our Heelies to get a reference as to where we all are in the process of recovery. I will do this from know on.
Sandy, so sorry to hear about your injury. I pushed my Doc . for PT but he had me wait till full WB then I started PT. However, the first thing my PT asked when I started PT was if it hurts to stop and let her know. She said we are not here to cause you pain but to help you heal. Several times I tried to do more and she stopped me. As I have come to find out in my case less is more, I don't push it and the results are very impressive. You may want to talk to your PT or change to another.
Michele, I too get pain on the top and side of foot mostly when I push it. Once my foot warms up and I concentrate on taking a proper step the pain goes away. It can't be streesed enough to take a proper step, heel, plant, rock up on ball of foot and push off. You will see that your knee will not hurt you. You may have some discomfort at your toes until those muscles acclimate. I hope this helps.
Ed, thanks, everybody have a great weekend and remember stay strong, positive and of course
Keep Healing Heelies :jester:
Joe
joe41
11-08-2008, 11:30 AM
Hey Heelies, op. 7/15
Sandy, sorry I forgot to say what excercises I do. When am in my recliner foot elevated I am always flexing my toes as far up and down as I can. I also push my foot down and then towards me as far as I can. If I have any swelling I ice. I also like the tennis ball rolling under my foot it works the arch real good. I massage and pull and push my foot from side to side as far as it will go, I do not have pain while doing any of this. All the other excercises I do at PT.
Joe :jester:
Sandy, sorry I forgot to say what excercises I do. When am in my recliner foot elevated I am always flexing my toes as far up and down as I can. I also push my foot down and then towards me as far as I can. If I have any swelling I ice. I also like the tennis ball rolling under my foot it works the arch real good. I massage and pull and push my foot from side to side as far as it will go, I do not have pain while doing any of this. All the other excercises I do at PT.
Joe :jester:
hockeymom18
11-08-2008, 12:12 PM
Thanks for the replies.
I guess in my mind I just wonder what I have done since he's had me weight bearing since day 2 after the break. Its been in a boot, but still I've been on it. When they did the x-ray on Oct 27th it actually didn't look like there had been all that much bone growth at the site of the break---he said it was healing, but not healed yet. I just don't see how 2 weeks from now he's going to say "out of the boot and into a shoe" because I know there is no way I can walk all the time on it without the boot--just around the house without the boot is VERY painful on somedays. Usually when I've been at work and come home with LOTS of swelling.
I guess in my mind I just wonder what I have done since he's had me weight bearing since day 2 after the break. Its been in a boot, but still I've been on it. When they did the x-ray on Oct 27th it actually didn't look like there had been all that much bone growth at the site of the break---he said it was healing, but not healed yet. I just don't see how 2 weeks from now he's going to say "out of the boot and into a shoe" because I know there is no way I can walk all the time on it without the boot--just around the house without the boot is VERY painful on somedays. Usually when I've been at work and come home with LOTS of swelling.
mydd
11-08-2008, 01:15 PM
Hockeymom- get another opinion and ct scan or mri , xrays only show so much- husband is on second dr and feel so much better and comfortable with him its amazing.
Sandy- there is one thing you can do that helps swelling and is an easy exercise at the same time,take a water bottle and feeze it-then use it under your foot to roll foot back and forth on,will keep swellng down and give some exercise at the same time:)
You would have to scroll back in posts to see what we have been through,its been a long road,and still have another operaton to go,but when a dr doesnt make you feel like he is listening to you and you know your own body ,then it is time to find another.
Everyone else- keep up the good work with your healing!
sbrew thoughts are with you!
MYDD
Sandy- there is one thing you can do that helps swelling and is an easy exercise at the same time,take a water bottle and feeze it-then use it under your foot to roll foot back and forth on,will keep swellng down and give some exercise at the same time:)
You would have to scroll back in posts to see what we have been through,its been a long road,and still have another operaton to go,but when a dr doesnt make you feel like he is listening to you and you know your own body ,then it is time to find another.
Everyone else- keep up the good work with your healing!
sbrew thoughts are with you!
MYDD
patw27
11-08-2008, 05:54 PM
Hi Hockeymom,
I too did not have surgery but with or without surgery you will get the pain in foot and ankle where the tendons and muscles and ligaments act up.I was in a cast NWB for 3 months so you seem to be very quick. I was not given decision that bone had completely healed for 7 months , but I was told at 3 months that it seemed to be so I think that they are very cautious in UK.
When I started to WB it felt as if there was no spring in my step but that has stopped now. Someone on this site told me to get a rolling pin and roll it back and for under my foot as I was sitting down to get rid of any plantar facillus, it worked for her and it worked for me.
Take your time and good luck
Pat:)
I too did not have surgery but with or without surgery you will get the pain in foot and ankle where the tendons and muscles and ligaments act up.I was in a cast NWB for 3 months so you seem to be very quick. I was not given decision that bone had completely healed for 7 months , but I was told at 3 months that it seemed to be so I think that they are very cautious in UK.
When I started to WB it felt as if there was no spring in my step but that has stopped now. Someone on this site told me to get a rolling pin and roll it back and for under my foot as I was sitting down to get rid of any plantar facillus, it worked for her and it worked for me.
Take your time and good luck
Pat:)
triguy450
11-08-2008, 06:41 PM
Hi Sandy,
Wow. You stepped in with both feet on this one. I'm sorry about the pun...I was thining sandcastles, beach etc......
I think you need a new PT or have a long talk with the one you have. There is NO reason why they should push you beyond your comfort level. They are there to work with and for you, not on their own time or dime. There is no obligation to stick with this PT.
This is not an injury you can recover from quickly. It takes time and patience. The wobble board by the way is a great exercise for ROM. It still hurts me too.
For what it's worth I have been in PT since 9/17. I am now full WB in shoes and my foot and ankle still swell. If it's a laced shoe, the foot swelling is minimal but my ankles swell. The past 2 days I wore loafer type shoes.. I attended classes from 8 until 5 each day. My entire foot and toes are so swollen....
Joe is giving great advice for PT and ROM exercises. His opinion and progress reports are dead on.
Michele, can you be more specific where the pain is? Bone? Tendons? Top of the foot? If you feel it's the bone, then you are WBing too soon. If it feels like tendons and ligaments, the pain is normal. I believe it was TChair who mentioned, we have to go thru the pain in order for everything to know how to get back to the way it was.
I too am going to try to rolling pin. Thank you. One thing I am having a very hard time doing right now is pushing off my toes on a consistant basis. I can go heal, foot, then I limp....it's a hard, conscious effort to push off my toes. My foot muscles aren't quite there but everyday they are stronger.
Keep healing everyone,
Ed
Wow. You stepped in with both feet on this one. I'm sorry about the pun...I was thining sandcastles, beach etc......
I think you need a new PT or have a long talk with the one you have. There is NO reason why they should push you beyond your comfort level. They are there to work with and for you, not on their own time or dime. There is no obligation to stick with this PT.
This is not an injury you can recover from quickly. It takes time and patience. The wobble board by the way is a great exercise for ROM. It still hurts me too.
For what it's worth I have been in PT since 9/17. I am now full WB in shoes and my foot and ankle still swell. If it's a laced shoe, the foot swelling is minimal but my ankles swell. The past 2 days I wore loafer type shoes.. I attended classes from 8 until 5 each day. My entire foot and toes are so swollen....
Joe is giving great advice for PT and ROM exercises. His opinion and progress reports are dead on.
Michele, can you be more specific where the pain is? Bone? Tendons? Top of the foot? If you feel it's the bone, then you are WBing too soon. If it feels like tendons and ligaments, the pain is normal. I believe it was TChair who mentioned, we have to go thru the pain in order for everything to know how to get back to the way it was.
I too am going to try to rolling pin. Thank you. One thing I am having a very hard time doing right now is pushing off my toes on a consistant basis. I can go heal, foot, then I limp....it's a hard, conscious effort to push off my toes. My foot muscles aren't quite there but everyday they are stronger.
Keep healing everyone,
Ed
b4us
11-08-2008, 09:18 PM
Hi everybody -
WOW it sure has been a very long week!! I had a lot to catch up on here on the "Heelie Board" - I am glad to see everyone is doing well - Sbrew, I sure hope you are feeling better. I am sorry to hear about your fall.
MYDD - I happy to hear that your husband is coming along well.
My hubby is doing good - he is feeling better. Me leaving was very hard for him at first (his mom stayed with him) - he says that he just felt so much safer with me here with him! I thought that was very sweet and I really was not going to leave! I did not pack to leave until (after a very long talk with him) after midnight. I only slept for an hour before we left....it was the hardest thing for me to do. It was however very relaxing, and I am very glad that I went! He started feeling better by Monday and he had said that he would get feeling better and we would both regret it if I did not go! After I got home, I told him that next time we are going to together! He would love it!
Keep Healing - I will be back on later!
Taysha
WOW it sure has been a very long week!! I had a lot to catch up on here on the "Heelie Board" - I am glad to see everyone is doing well - Sbrew, I sure hope you are feeling better. I am sorry to hear about your fall.
MYDD - I happy to hear that your husband is coming along well.
My hubby is doing good - he is feeling better. Me leaving was very hard for him at first (his mom stayed with him) - he says that he just felt so much safer with me here with him! I thought that was very sweet and I really was not going to leave! I did not pack to leave until (after a very long talk with him) after midnight. I only slept for an hour before we left....it was the hardest thing for me to do. It was however very relaxing, and I am very glad that I went! He started feeling better by Monday and he had said that he would get feeling better and we would both regret it if I did not go! After I got home, I told him that next time we are going to together! He would love it!
Keep Healing - I will be back on later!
Taysha
Hyper86
11-08-2008, 10:11 PM
Hello Heelies, op. 7/3
I can run up the steps for the 1st time since injury 6/11.
Physical therapy starts 11/10 am.
Will look in the kitchen for a rolling pin.
Have a Great Sunday!
Carole
I can run up the steps for the 1st time since injury 6/11.
Physical therapy starts 11/10 am.
Will look in the kitchen for a rolling pin.
Have a Great Sunday!
Carole
sbrew7
11-08-2008, 10:22 PM
Hello Heelies (9/9 Surgery),
Good idea on putting surgery date in greeting. I go away and bouder (french for pout or being down in the dumps) for awhile and we get all kinds of new people...Tim, Michelle, Keith, Paul, and Sandy. I hope I am not leaving anyone out. Welcome to the most supportive and best group of people I know...it is great to have people near who can really share what we are all going through.
It looks like Alex, Phil, Keith and I had surgery within a day of each other. I was not a tri athelete nor did I carry heavy weight all day but I am also very active. I love working in the yard, riding motorcycles, entertaining, etc. I think Ed told me in the beginning that the mental part is the worst part. I am now dealing with the mental part and feel guilty when there are so many people worse off than me but I was on track with Alex and Phil and now they are zooming past me. I am glad for them....don't get me wrong.
I am living with my hip but I have been in a FUNK!!! I am glad I am a woman and can just break out crying sometimes :). I went back and read all posts since 11/1 to catch up and I REALLY, REALLY appreciate the care and concern you all have shown since my accident:angel:. It meant a lot.
I read many of your suggestions for exercises and I have been doing what I can. I am in my wheelchair but I put my barefeet on the floor and pull myself trying to do heel to toe movements. I just can't put weight on my hip. The pain I feel in my foot when putting weight on it while sitting is similar to what you all expressed. Michelle, I tried to put on my shoes and you would think my feet and legs belong to two different people. I am freezing a bottle of water as I write to use to role under my foot and will get a tennis ball. I am still using a t-shirt to stretch my achilles sometimes but have not had the same drive I had before I broke my hip.
I am trying to walk with my crutches some. Yesterday, I was thinking I might get my hip pinned on the 21st so I could start WB. I need to be able to do some WB when my hip is pinned. It is a catch 22. I thought if I go to PT for 2 weeks I might be in a better position to WB when I get hip surgery. I have not made up my mind. I don't think I could deal with an infection on top of this. Again, I know there are many people worse off than I am.
I went back to work Wednesday and even drove today. It doesn't hurt to drive very much when I put a pillow under my hip and leg. I only drove a short distance but want to drive to work Monday. Rural letter carriers drive with their left foot every work day.....The guys on my staff ask me to tell them when I am driving so they can stay off the road. I can't believe the pain my hip has caused...because I favor my hip my back and other side of hip hurts. My boot is heavy and aggravates my hip and makes my leg and knee hurt...I think I will dump the boot. I get so tired by the end of the day that I come into the house and head for the tub. I soak awhile and then get in bed on a heating pad. I get so angry at myself for these stupid accidents. The doctor has ordered a bone density test for me...boy does that make me feel old...he thinks I may have osteopenia (spelling probably wrong).. I can't have that because that is my grandmother's problem...I am too young (maybe not);)
I put all of you and your stories in a spreadsheet to I can keep track of your progress, date of accident, surgery, where you are, what your recommendetc. I am glad the infections are progressing I will not respond to each of you in this already long response but I will.
Was it Ed or Phil that said he would FAX exercises..please add me FAX 225.686.4347.
BTW, the LSU-Alabama game did not make me feel any better. I have it easy compared to Coach Miles in the next weeks... I still say GEAUX TIGERS - (pronounced GO Tigers)
Forgive the rambling...I am back on the pain meds
Good idea on putting surgery date in greeting. I go away and bouder (french for pout or being down in the dumps) for awhile and we get all kinds of new people...Tim, Michelle, Keith, Paul, and Sandy. I hope I am not leaving anyone out. Welcome to the most supportive and best group of people I know...it is great to have people near who can really share what we are all going through.
It looks like Alex, Phil, Keith and I had surgery within a day of each other. I was not a tri athelete nor did I carry heavy weight all day but I am also very active. I love working in the yard, riding motorcycles, entertaining, etc. I think Ed told me in the beginning that the mental part is the worst part. I am now dealing with the mental part and feel guilty when there are so many people worse off than me but I was on track with Alex and Phil and now they are zooming past me. I am glad for them....don't get me wrong.
I am living with my hip but I have been in a FUNK!!! I am glad I am a woman and can just break out crying sometimes :). I went back and read all posts since 11/1 to catch up and I REALLY, REALLY appreciate the care and concern you all have shown since my accident:angel:. It meant a lot.
I read many of your suggestions for exercises and I have been doing what I can. I am in my wheelchair but I put my barefeet on the floor and pull myself trying to do heel to toe movements. I just can't put weight on my hip. The pain I feel in my foot when putting weight on it while sitting is similar to what you all expressed. Michelle, I tried to put on my shoes and you would think my feet and legs belong to two different people. I am freezing a bottle of water as I write to use to role under my foot and will get a tennis ball. I am still using a t-shirt to stretch my achilles sometimes but have not had the same drive I had before I broke my hip.
I am trying to walk with my crutches some. Yesterday, I was thinking I might get my hip pinned on the 21st so I could start WB. I need to be able to do some WB when my hip is pinned. It is a catch 22. I thought if I go to PT for 2 weeks I might be in a better position to WB when I get hip surgery. I have not made up my mind. I don't think I could deal with an infection on top of this. Again, I know there are many people worse off than I am.
I went back to work Wednesday and even drove today. It doesn't hurt to drive very much when I put a pillow under my hip and leg. I only drove a short distance but want to drive to work Monday. Rural letter carriers drive with their left foot every work day.....The guys on my staff ask me to tell them when I am driving so they can stay off the road. I can't believe the pain my hip has caused...because I favor my hip my back and other side of hip hurts. My boot is heavy and aggravates my hip and makes my leg and knee hurt...I think I will dump the boot. I get so tired by the end of the day that I come into the house and head for the tub. I soak awhile and then get in bed on a heating pad. I get so angry at myself for these stupid accidents. The doctor has ordered a bone density test for me...boy does that make me feel old...he thinks I may have osteopenia (spelling probably wrong).. I can't have that because that is my grandmother's problem...I am too young (maybe not);)
I put all of you and your stories in a spreadsheet to I can keep track of your progress, date of accident, surgery, where you are, what your recommendetc. I am glad the infections are progressing I will not respond to each of you in this already long response but I will.
Was it Ed or Phil that said he would FAX exercises..please add me FAX 225.686.4347.
BTW, the LSU-Alabama game did not make me feel any better. I have it easy compared to Coach Miles in the next weeks... I still say GEAUX TIGERS - (pronounced GO Tigers)
Forgive the rambling...I am back on the pain meds
hockeymom18
11-08-2008, 11:21 PM
Ed,
The pain is sometimes in the heel area--like a stabbing pain, but unlike the plantar faciitis that I had in that foot that was corrected with the surgery in Sept. The other pains I feel are in the inside of my ankle, then the top of my foot and outside of the foot. Wish I could draw a diagram it would be easier to show. When the side of foot and ankle swell, it seems there is something bulging (maybe ripped tendons or ligaments?). Of course, upon waking or first moving it is very stiff and hard to walk on--as the day goes by it gets better.
Just wondering what to do for shoes? I got a size bigger, but they seem to be too narrow with the swelling.
Hello sbrew7 nice to meet you and sorry to hear about your hip.
The pain is sometimes in the heel area--like a stabbing pain, but unlike the plantar faciitis that I had in that foot that was corrected with the surgery in Sept. The other pains I feel are in the inside of my ankle, then the top of my foot and outside of the foot. Wish I could draw a diagram it would be easier to show. When the side of foot and ankle swell, it seems there is something bulging (maybe ripped tendons or ligaments?). Of course, upon waking or first moving it is very stiff and hard to walk on--as the day goes by it gets better.
Just wondering what to do for shoes? I got a size bigger, but they seem to be too narrow with the swelling.
Hello sbrew7 nice to meet you and sorry to hear about your hip.
mydd
11-08-2008, 11:26 PM
SBREW_glad you posted to let us know how you are doing-i have to admit was surprised to hear your are driving but that takes alot of dertemination,so that will keep you strong for the things that you have to do to get better.
B4us_welcome back! what your husband said about him feeling safer with you around makes me feel like i do with my husband like we are one with this injury,am sure he is very happy you are back:angel:and glad he is feeling better too!
hope all of you continue with your recoveries! MYDD:)
B4us_welcome back! what your husband said about him feeling safer with you around makes me feel like i do with my husband like we are one with this injury,am sure he is very happy you are back:angel:and glad he is feeling better too!
hope all of you continue with your recoveries! MYDD:)
sandcastles
11-09-2008, 12:12 AM
To: The “Heelie” group,
Thank you for your helpful suggestions, your encouragement and your wisdom.
Joe41: I thought that I could (or should) “tough it out” with the pain from PT. My PT is a very strong man - he is very good - yet I have a strong suspicion that he is not well versed in the heel “department”. I am going to make an appointment with him to discuss the current status of my foot. I am also going to set short and long term goals for myself with him.
Mydd: Thank you! Great idea! I have two bottles in the freezer - I can’t wait to try this exercise. :)
Trigut: Wow, you’re in loafers! Good for you! I agree that the concept of the “wobble board” is great - My thoughts are that the PT was just a little premature in having me use the wobble board this early (3rd PT sessions - I am not FWB - I am just now attempting to distribute my weight evenly) . I am very active (ski, golf, bike, sail, etc.) I miss my independence. Yes, I do live very close to the beach - in fact, when the surf is strong it keeps me awake at night.
Sbrew: I am so sorry to hear of your hip fracture - what a terrible thing to happen to you during your recovery. I cannot believe how brave you are to be driving!
Again, thanks to all of you for being so kind. It's amazing how just hearing what I am feeling is "normal" - - - makes me feel much better.
Sandy
Thank you for your helpful suggestions, your encouragement and your wisdom.
Joe41: I thought that I could (or should) “tough it out” with the pain from PT. My PT is a very strong man - he is very good - yet I have a strong suspicion that he is not well versed in the heel “department”. I am going to make an appointment with him to discuss the current status of my foot. I am also going to set short and long term goals for myself with him.
Mydd: Thank you! Great idea! I have two bottles in the freezer - I can’t wait to try this exercise. :)
Trigut: Wow, you’re in loafers! Good for you! I agree that the concept of the “wobble board” is great - My thoughts are that the PT was just a little premature in having me use the wobble board this early (3rd PT sessions - I am not FWB - I am just now attempting to distribute my weight evenly) . I am very active (ski, golf, bike, sail, etc.) I miss my independence. Yes, I do live very close to the beach - in fact, when the surf is strong it keeps me awake at night.
Sbrew: I am so sorry to hear of your hip fracture - what a terrible thing to happen to you during your recovery. I cannot believe how brave you are to be driving!
Again, thanks to all of you for being so kind. It's amazing how just hearing what I am feeling is "normal" - - - makes me feel much better.
Sandy
KCguy
11-09-2008, 01:11 AM
Evening everyone
It's been a busy day here, so easy to get behind!
Sbrew it's great to have seen you post here today, we were all worried about you. With everything you're going through so still driving and going to work and continuing to exercise. What an example you set, the rest of us have nothing we can complain about compared to your situation. Don't worry about the rest of us going past you, we'll still be around when you're up and walking.
Joe and Ed
Thanks for all the great tips. You two definitely are the experts. I continue to research every day, but I'm still way behind you guys. The roller pin and tennis balls are great ideas I need to implement. It's also good to know you guys just keep getting better too.
Taysha
Welcome back, it's great to know you got some stress relief this past week and that your husband is improving. Good for both of you!
Carole
Congratulations on another milestone, you continue to impress. I'm so happy for you!
Michele
I know everyone here has great suggestions and ideas for you, but I know I'm not a doctor. I don't know that you're going to be happy until you get another opinion and some more tests done.
mydd
Hope you're husband continues to improve, sounds like he's well on his way now to put the infections behind him and fully recover
Pat
Sounds like things are also going well for you, that's awesome!
Once again, anyone who is able to stand on both feet, I wanted to let you all know that the knee bends I do while leaning slightly forward is really helping to loosen up the muscles, ligaments and tendons in my ankles. It's the same position you would use if you were snow skiing.
Hope everyone continues to recover well and enjoy steady progress. To anyone I've forgotten so sorry. Our prayers go out to all of you!
Alex
It's been a busy day here, so easy to get behind!
Sbrew it's great to have seen you post here today, we were all worried about you. With everything you're going through so still driving and going to work and continuing to exercise. What an example you set, the rest of us have nothing we can complain about compared to your situation. Don't worry about the rest of us going past you, we'll still be around when you're up and walking.
Joe and Ed
Thanks for all the great tips. You two definitely are the experts. I continue to research every day, but I'm still way behind you guys. The roller pin and tennis balls are great ideas I need to implement. It's also good to know you guys just keep getting better too.
Taysha
Welcome back, it's great to know you got some stress relief this past week and that your husband is improving. Good for both of you!
Carole
Congratulations on another milestone, you continue to impress. I'm so happy for you!
Michele
I know everyone here has great suggestions and ideas for you, but I know I'm not a doctor. I don't know that you're going to be happy until you get another opinion and some more tests done.
mydd
Hope you're husband continues to improve, sounds like he's well on his way now to put the infections behind him and fully recover
Pat
Sounds like things are also going well for you, that's awesome!
Once again, anyone who is able to stand on both feet, I wanted to let you all know that the knee bends I do while leaning slightly forward is really helping to loosen up the muscles, ligaments and tendons in my ankles. It's the same position you would use if you were snow skiing.
Hope everyone continues to recover well and enjoy steady progress. To anyone I've forgotten so sorry. Our prayers go out to all of you!
Alex
Tripod123
11-09-2008, 01:18 AM
Hi gang.
Ed: Thanks for the PT fax. I will get going on them!
Carole: Boy, you are sure making up for lost time! Way to go.
Sbrew: You will be catching up in no time. But, sorry about your LSU Tigers. I have friends from Shreveport and Baton Rouge, so I am acquainted with your pain. And as I tell them (as a Michigan State fan) you got nothing on us, as Nick Saban abandoned us first!
For what it's worth, I have been partial WB for four days now. Only 50 pounds, but what a difference mentally! A little extra swelling, but manageable. A little ankle pain. No pain in the heel. I spend quite a bit of time without the boot, walking around the house on carpet, concentrating on good form, especially pushing off with the toes. Get to increase to 75 pounds on Monday, Will start light exercise bike then too. Gonna try the rolling pin tomorrow.
For those with nerve pain like me, I eased into the Neurontin and now take one pill in the morning and one at bedtime. It really has worked for me, allowing me to sleep most of the night, and to work (desk job) a full day. I have not had the short term memory loss (at least, not that I remember) or other side effects sometimes associated with this med. My surgeon told me I would be alright to take it for the next month and then wean off it. I also massage foot like crazy as Carole and others suggested. I suspect that the WB will fix the nerve pain as foot remembers what it needs to do.
For those not yet WB, hang in there. I guarantee you just starting the process will be huge emotional lift.
Regards.
Phil
Ed: Thanks for the PT fax. I will get going on them!
Carole: Boy, you are sure making up for lost time! Way to go.
Sbrew: You will be catching up in no time. But, sorry about your LSU Tigers. I have friends from Shreveport and Baton Rouge, so I am acquainted with your pain. And as I tell them (as a Michigan State fan) you got nothing on us, as Nick Saban abandoned us first!
For what it's worth, I have been partial WB for four days now. Only 50 pounds, but what a difference mentally! A little extra swelling, but manageable. A little ankle pain. No pain in the heel. I spend quite a bit of time without the boot, walking around the house on carpet, concentrating on good form, especially pushing off with the toes. Get to increase to 75 pounds on Monday, Will start light exercise bike then too. Gonna try the rolling pin tomorrow.
For those with nerve pain like me, I eased into the Neurontin and now take one pill in the morning and one at bedtime. It really has worked for me, allowing me to sleep most of the night, and to work (desk job) a full day. I have not had the short term memory loss (at least, not that I remember) or other side effects sometimes associated with this med. My surgeon told me I would be alright to take it for the next month and then wean off it. I also massage foot like crazy as Carole and others suggested. I suspect that the WB will fix the nerve pain as foot remembers what it needs to do.
For those not yet WB, hang in there. I guarantee you just starting the process will be huge emotional lift.
Regards.
Phil
triguy450
11-09-2008, 09:03 AM
Hi all,
Welcome back Taysha. I'm really glad you got to go on the cruise and you worked things out with your hubby before you left. You needed that as much as he did. Yes, both of you will go next time. Together.
Carole....way to go. That is fantastic. I'm still slow going up and down stairs but getting better at it all the time.
Sbrew. Wow. I am amazed that with a broken hip you are still trying to get around and still trying to rehab your foot at the same time. Please be careful...if the doc says you may have that bone issue, we don't want to see any more posts on here that you broke something else too. Please.....be careful?
Also, please don't feel guilty. You are injured and trying to recover. For what ever reason, this happened to you. It's time to slow down and take care of yourself and get better. I know why you feel that. As the breadwinner here, I felt terrible I couldn't help my wife and kids with various chores....but there were things I could do for them from the laptop, or from the sofa....Homework, research etc....I sent the pages this morning.
Glad to hear of the great progress Phil.
Sandy, A great exercise to distribute your weight is to lie on your back, knees bent. Pick your butt off the floor with both legs, then slowly transfer the weight to your bad foot. Hold for 10 seconds then lower and rest for 15, then repeat. I do 10 reps, 2 sets a day. Eventually you should be able to hold your weight with your bad foot. This is also great for the lower back and thighs. It'll help build the muscles that support your ankle too.
Michele, I wish you could show me a diagram too. The pains I felt when I started to WB, I thought were the screws in my heels, but they were the points where the ligaments and tendons attached to the bone. Remember they were traumatized when you fell, they are now readjusting to WB again. My initial pain was stabbing too, but it was the ligament that attached to the heel bone on both sides. Slowly adding weight over several days, weeks will allow them to adjust properly.
As for the shoes. I found sneakers worked best. I would put my foot in and tighten the laces, keeping the foot from swelling and live with the tightness. If your shoes are too tight, you may need another size.
My foot was very swollen again last night aftet 8 hours of class. Today I jump into the simulator and test my strength and finess again. I will be wearing sneakers tho today.
Have a great Sunday everyone.
Ed
Welcome back Taysha. I'm really glad you got to go on the cruise and you worked things out with your hubby before you left. You needed that as much as he did. Yes, both of you will go next time. Together.
Carole....way to go. That is fantastic. I'm still slow going up and down stairs but getting better at it all the time.
Sbrew. Wow. I am amazed that with a broken hip you are still trying to get around and still trying to rehab your foot at the same time. Please be careful...if the doc says you may have that bone issue, we don't want to see any more posts on here that you broke something else too. Please.....be careful?
Also, please don't feel guilty. You are injured and trying to recover. For what ever reason, this happened to you. It's time to slow down and take care of yourself and get better. I know why you feel that. As the breadwinner here, I felt terrible I couldn't help my wife and kids with various chores....but there were things I could do for them from the laptop, or from the sofa....Homework, research etc....I sent the pages this morning.
Glad to hear of the great progress Phil.
Sandy, A great exercise to distribute your weight is to lie on your back, knees bent. Pick your butt off the floor with both legs, then slowly transfer the weight to your bad foot. Hold for 10 seconds then lower and rest for 15, then repeat. I do 10 reps, 2 sets a day. Eventually you should be able to hold your weight with your bad foot. This is also great for the lower back and thighs. It'll help build the muscles that support your ankle too.
Michele, I wish you could show me a diagram too. The pains I felt when I started to WB, I thought were the screws in my heels, but they were the points where the ligaments and tendons attached to the bone. Remember they were traumatized when you fell, they are now readjusting to WB again. My initial pain was stabbing too, but it was the ligament that attached to the heel bone on both sides. Slowly adding weight over several days, weeks will allow them to adjust properly.
As for the shoes. I found sneakers worked best. I would put my foot in and tighten the laces, keeping the foot from swelling and live with the tightness. If your shoes are too tight, you may need another size.
My foot was very swollen again last night aftet 8 hours of class. Today I jump into the simulator and test my strength and finess again. I will be wearing sneakers tho today.
Have a great Sunday everyone.
Ed
joe41
11-09-2008, 12:50 PM
Hey Heelies, op. 7/15
F.Y.I. yesterday I was out and about all day walking and by the end of the day my foot was killing me. Got home eleavated, iced and two Advil. This morning back to normal????
Sandy, I think that's a good plan and will help your PT reassess your progress.
Phil, let me help you with your short term memory, thanks for the $5k you sent me :D. Hey, am glad it's working for you. Keep massaging it will reduce the sensitivity.
Carole, you rabbit you, good for you.
Sbrew, that is what I call staying strong. My two cents, try focusing on one injury at a time, but, both simultainiously. In other words do what you can for recovery to each without hurting the other.
Michele, Ed hits it on the nose, there's a whole lot of stuff packed into a small area around the ankle and foot and it all has been tramatized from the injury and or surgery. Unfortunately pain is part of the haeling process, and also a warning if things are not going well. i.e. if the pain does not abate in time it may be a signal that something is not wright. Hang in there as I and many other have said patience and perserverance is what this is all about.
Taysha, glad you are back and hubby is doing well.
Mydd, it's good to hear your hubby is doing well after all that infection ordeal.
Pat, it's been a longer go for you, but i am glad you are making wonderfull progress. Way to go Brit.
Alex, thanks for listing all the heelies, I lose track. Hope you are happy with your progress.
Lastly, I agree with Ed on the shoes, I went and got me a pair of reebok high top sneakers one size larger that give me very good support. Well, another week by the boards and good progress by all, little by little one step at a time or more :D. Remember, stay strong, positive and of course
Keep Healin Heelies :jester:
Joe
F.Y.I. yesterday I was out and about all day walking and by the end of the day my foot was killing me. Got home eleavated, iced and two Advil. This morning back to normal????
Sandy, I think that's a good plan and will help your PT reassess your progress.
Phil, let me help you with your short term memory, thanks for the $5k you sent me :D. Hey, am glad it's working for you. Keep massaging it will reduce the sensitivity.
Carole, you rabbit you, good for you.
Sbrew, that is what I call staying strong. My two cents, try focusing on one injury at a time, but, both simultainiously. In other words do what you can for recovery to each without hurting the other.
Michele, Ed hits it on the nose, there's a whole lot of stuff packed into a small area around the ankle and foot and it all has been tramatized from the injury and or surgery. Unfortunately pain is part of the haeling process, and also a warning if things are not going well. i.e. if the pain does not abate in time it may be a signal that something is not wright. Hang in there as I and many other have said patience and perserverance is what this is all about.
Taysha, glad you are back and hubby is doing well.
Mydd, it's good to hear your hubby is doing well after all that infection ordeal.
Pat, it's been a longer go for you, but i am glad you are making wonderfull progress. Way to go Brit.
Alex, thanks for listing all the heelies, I lose track. Hope you are happy with your progress.
Lastly, I agree with Ed on the shoes, I went and got me a pair of reebok high top sneakers one size larger that give me very good support. Well, another week by the boards and good progress by all, little by little one step at a time or more :D. Remember, stay strong, positive and of course
Keep Healin Heelies :jester:
Joe
mydd
11-09-2008, 02:10 PM
ahhh ED the thought of seeing my husband in a sneaker lol- but i can understand you happiness in being able to lol.
thanks jo alex for good thoughts and sandy hope the ice bottle works- i also just remembered that when my husbands foot had so much pain and he was tired of taking pills for it i had asked his dr about pain patches to apply directly to the foot and he has used the Lidoderm patches can be worn up to 12 hours and you can get perscrpit. from your dr.
:)MYDD
thanks jo alex for good thoughts and sandy hope the ice bottle works- i also just remembered that when my husbands foot had so much pain and he was tired of taking pills for it i had asked his dr about pain patches to apply directly to the foot and he has used the Lidoderm patches can be worn up to 12 hours and you can get perscrpit. from your dr.
:)MYDD
electrician
11-09-2008, 08:15 PM
Hello all,
No new info, but I am going crazy. My sister and brother-in-law took me Christmas shopping and lunch this friday. It was a mixed feeling; felt good to get out of the house, but discouraging because I had to use the wheel chair. Also my hips and lower back started to hurt only after 4 hours. I guess I was favoring/protecting my bad foot.
I am going crazy at home b/c I just cannot do much; need things brought to me. My wife has given me the task of cleaning out the bins in one of our closets. Lots of junk, I didn't know we competing with the local pharmacy for amount of inventory.
Still doing rom exercises can't wait till 11-20 drs appt maybe I can spart wb and pt. can't wait to walk and work on our camper.
Hope everyone is progressing well,
Keith
No new info, but I am going crazy. My sister and brother-in-law took me Christmas shopping and lunch this friday. It was a mixed feeling; felt good to get out of the house, but discouraging because I had to use the wheel chair. Also my hips and lower back started to hurt only after 4 hours. I guess I was favoring/protecting my bad foot.
I am going crazy at home b/c I just cannot do much; need things brought to me. My wife has given me the task of cleaning out the bins in one of our closets. Lots of junk, I didn't know we competing with the local pharmacy for amount of inventory.
Still doing rom exercises can't wait till 11-20 drs appt maybe I can spart wb and pt. can't wait to walk and work on our camper.
Hope everyone is progressing well,
Keith
KCguy
11-09-2008, 10:17 PM
Hey everyone (Surgery 9/9)
Just wanted to leave a quick note for Keith
Keith, I'm with you. I go back to the doc this Wednesday to move forward with WB and I've been going crazy just like you. I've cheated with just about every exercise and even tested a little weight on the bad foot just to see what it would feel like. I've been able to tinker around in the garage by sitting on a rolling stool and doing some cleaning on vehicles and stuff with my foot propped up on another stool. Just keep focusing on anything you can that's related to your normal schedule, it's helped me a lot!
Hope everyone has had a great weekend, keep getting better everyone!
Alex
Just wanted to leave a quick note for Keith
Keith, I'm with you. I go back to the doc this Wednesday to move forward with WB and I've been going crazy just like you. I've cheated with just about every exercise and even tested a little weight on the bad foot just to see what it would feel like. I've been able to tinker around in the garage by sitting on a rolling stool and doing some cleaning on vehicles and stuff with my foot propped up on another stool. Just keep focusing on anything you can that's related to your normal schedule, it's helped me a lot!
Hope everyone has had a great weekend, keep getting better everyone!
Alex
Hyper86
11-10-2008, 10:13 PM
Hello Heelies,
Physical therapy went well this morning but it hurt, found out I can massage the scar tissue out of my foot, pt said to massage up & down if scar is sideways or massage sideways if scar is up & down.
My balance is out of wack when standing on one foot (my bad foot)
She said I was walking flat footed, funny I thought flat feet was something people got who spent to much time walking in the city with shoes on.
She PT gave me a big stretchy rubber band to put force on range of motion exercises.
Have a lot of new exercises one is to stand on toes 15 sec. then heels 15 sec. repeat, repeat.
Another is to face wall press with both hands with bad leg behind me as far as it will go then same thing but with bad leg bent.
Let me know if anybody would like the exercises faxed to them.
Thank you all for being happy for me running up the steps!
Better days are ahead.
See you on the road to walking normal!
Carole
Physical therapy went well this morning but it hurt, found out I can massage the scar tissue out of my foot, pt said to massage up & down if scar is sideways or massage sideways if scar is up & down.
My balance is out of wack when standing on one foot (my bad foot)
She said I was walking flat footed, funny I thought flat feet was something people got who spent to much time walking in the city with shoes on.
She PT gave me a big stretchy rubber band to put force on range of motion exercises.
Have a lot of new exercises one is to stand on toes 15 sec. then heels 15 sec. repeat, repeat.
Another is to face wall press with both hands with bad leg behind me as far as it will go then same thing but with bad leg bent.
Let me know if anybody would like the exercises faxed to them.
Thank you all for being happy for me running up the steps!
Better days are ahead.
See you on the road to walking normal!
Carole
hockeymom18
11-10-2008, 10:52 PM
Called the Doctor that I want to go to for the 2nd opinion today, cannot get in until December 9th. They advised me to call back tomorrow to see if Trauma Doctor will see me, as he has appointments as early as Thursday. Today was a bad day, lots of pain with and without the boot and swelling.
Michele
Michele
hockeymom18
11-10-2008, 11:00 PM
I can tell you all about Plantar Fasciitis----I've had it in both feet now for over a year. First treatment was the insoles, then injections, then finally I had surgery on the right foot for it when they did my knee in September (two weeks before the broken heel). They told me if I would have broken the heel first I wouldn't have needed the surgery--just my luck I am always doing things backwards.
Its always worst the first few steps, feels like some needles being pressed into the heel. I used to think it was the worst pain ever, but then I broke my heel and I now know different. :jester:
Its always worst the first few steps, feels like some needles being pressed into the heel. I used to think it was the worst pain ever, but then I broke my heel and I now know different. :jester:
Tripod123
11-11-2008, 12:42 AM
I hope everyone is making progress this week.
Carole: I will take you up on your offer to fax PT exercises. Please send to 616-776-0037. Thanks! For some reason, my doc wants me full WB before he sends me to PT, so I want a head start.
Alex: My surgery was 9/8. You are going to love starting WB. I am only in day six. My eleven year old daughter now calls me chicken leg. I pushed too much over the weekend and was miserable Sunday afternoon - extra swelling and lots of pain - I was no fun to be around. But then slept surprisingly well, and today was the best day since the accident - almost no pain and was able to crutch all around with the allowed 75# of weight. I say this not out of insensitivity to anyone, but to again point out my profound surprise when an awful and depressing day is frequently followed by a day of gain.
General Question: In earlier post, folks have referred to Therabands (sp?) for PT? What are they, what do you do with them, and where can you get them?
This online community has been a MAJOR booster for me since I got hurt. I usually have waited until bedtime to read the posts in order to get the encouragement at a time of day most needed. Many thanks for all who haven taken the time to post.
Regards.
Phil
Carole: I will take you up on your offer to fax PT exercises. Please send to 616-776-0037. Thanks! For some reason, my doc wants me full WB before he sends me to PT, so I want a head start.
Alex: My surgery was 9/8. You are going to love starting WB. I am only in day six. My eleven year old daughter now calls me chicken leg. I pushed too much over the weekend and was miserable Sunday afternoon - extra swelling and lots of pain - I was no fun to be around. But then slept surprisingly well, and today was the best day since the accident - almost no pain and was able to crutch all around with the allowed 75# of weight. I say this not out of insensitivity to anyone, but to again point out my profound surprise when an awful and depressing day is frequently followed by a day of gain.
General Question: In earlier post, folks have referred to Therabands (sp?) for PT? What are they, what do you do with them, and where can you get them?
This online community has been a MAJOR booster for me since I got hurt. I usually have waited until bedtime to read the posts in order to get the encouragement at a time of day most needed. Many thanks for all who haven taken the time to post.
Regards.
Phil
moderator2
11-11-2008, 12:56 AM
We need to limit threads to about 80 posts or six months. Please feel free to start your own threads for support and advice on your health issue or concern.