podiecat
01-04-2009, 01:57 PM
Hi, I've been looking online to order MK-7 and there is a Natural Factors brand that is a combo of 120mcg MK7 and D3 1000IU. There is also the Jarrow brand of 'Natto Extract 78 mg Nattokinase 320 FU'. I take D3 anyway so I'm thinking of getting the combo. What do those of you that take MK7 use?
Oh, Those of you who have had the miraculous results from strontium, which brand do you use?
Thanks....
Oh, Those of you who have had the miraculous results from strontium, which brand do you use?
Thanks....
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starfish81
01-04-2009, 02:17 PM
Hi Podiecat, you lucky Vermonter (I miss your state soooo much), glad to see you're back. I have used both AOR (Advanced Orthomolecular Research) and Doctor's Best brand strontium. I had no side effects with either. I've decided never to have another DEXA scan so I'll never know if it's helping or not, but I do know that others have increased their BMD with strontium use so I've chosen to assume that I too, will be one of the fortunate ones.
As for the MK7, I'm currently using Jarrow's and it's 90mcg. I take my Vitamin D in 2000IU gelcaps either twice or 3X/day.
As for the MK7, I'm currently using Jarrow's and it's 90mcg. I take my Vitamin D in 2000IU gelcaps either twice or 3X/day.
phylwill1152
01-04-2009, 06:39 PM
Hi Carol...i've been taking NSI Strontium for going on 3 years. I had improvements after 9 months of use and am looking forward to seeing what the one due in June shows after being on it for almost 3 years. I buy it online for $19.99 for a 60 day supply. Do you still have your dog? take care...phyllis
podiecat
01-04-2009, 07:13 PM
Hi Starfish and Phylwill, Thanks so much for the warm welcomes. Yes, I'm still in Vermont and have been chilled to the bone since September! Now I finally understand why so many go south for the winter. Between the darkness and the cold, as well as my own various challenges, winter is very long. Thank goodness the sun is coming back!!!!!! After successfully training the puppy for sound alerting and service dog work, I broke my heart to bits and rehomed her after five months. It became clear that she was part border collie was so hyper that I felt beat up and was so afraid of falling and breaking my body. The reality is that my health issues have worn me out and I don't have what it takes to tire out a high-energy dog like she was. I found a fantastic home for her so she has a ten year old to try to tire her out. It was and is still so hard but thinking about that energy and the risk involved made the decision the right one. I then acted as totally impetuous as a teenage girl wanting to get pregnant just to have something to love her and went all the way out to NW Indiana to rescue a two year old part great pyrenees. It was absolutely insane and to make a very long story short, I have Tess. She is very quiet and docile (more my speed with health issues) and she's amazing in public access as a service dog - the only problem is that she's not interested in alerting me to sounds or guiding me away from cars in parking lots that I don't hear. LOL! She does pick things up for me and alerts to sounds a litte now. So it's been a slow, challenging road but she is a gem and has made enormous progress.
I've been online searching biosil (now Jarrowsil I think), MK-7,Strontium and more and have come across several articles on sites that are very revelent for us. I just don't know what is allowed to post. There is way too much for me to explain with my challenged braincells.....
I'm so pleased to hear that strontium has made such a great improvement! I just hope I'm actually absorbing enough calcium so taking strontium doesn't cause addition problems...... It's great to be back with you wonderful women!!!
I've been online searching biosil (now Jarrowsil I think), MK-7,Strontium and more and have come across several articles on sites that are very revelent for us. I just don't know what is allowed to post. There is way too much for me to explain with my challenged braincells.....
I'm so pleased to hear that strontium has made such a great improvement! I just hope I'm actually absorbing enough calcium so taking strontium doesn't cause addition problems...... It's great to be back with you wonderful women!!!
phylwill1152
01-04-2009, 11:52 PM
Hi Carol...i am intrigued by your dog story. I volunteer at our local animal shelter so rescuing dogs and giving them the care they need is very dear to my heart. We have an English Mastiff at the shelter now and had a Great Pyrenees mix a month or so back..they are both huge dogs. How did you find the dog in Indiana when you live in Vermont? Did you drive to get her and bring her home? Have you talked to anyone who can help you train her for sound alerts? (sorry about all the questions) What worked with the other dog may not be the way to teach her, like kids they are all different in the way they learn.
When taking strontium you need to get at least 1000 mg. of calcium a day. that can come from food or supplements. There are some calcium supplements that are liquid filled caps, and some that are in liquid form. Would one of those be more absorbable for you? take care...phyllis
When taking strontium you need to get at least 1000 mg. of calcium a day. that can come from food or supplements. There are some calcium supplements that are liquid filled caps, and some that are in liquid form. Would one of those be more absorbable for you? take care...phyllis
mskaty
01-05-2009, 12:06 AM
Hi all
I am brand new here and am wondering what Vit MK-7 is used for. I have been diagnosed with severe osteoporosis & have been on Actonel since September. My husband & I are basically freaking out about this drug (and the majority of all drugs) and the diagnosis. I want to get off of Actonel cold turkey, but I need to know what to do holistically/naturally to build my bones back up.
Thank you!!
K
I am brand new here and am wondering what Vit MK-7 is used for. I have been diagnosed with severe osteoporosis & have been on Actonel since September. My husband & I are basically freaking out about this drug (and the majority of all drugs) and the diagnosis. I want to get off of Actonel cold turkey, but I need to know what to do holistically/naturally to build my bones back up.
Thank you!!
K
mskaty
01-05-2009, 12:13 AM
So sorry---what is strontium?
thanks!
thanks!
phylwill1152
01-05-2009, 08:45 AM
Hi mskaty and welcome to the board :wave:. Strontium is a natural supplement similar to calcium. You can get online or at some stores. It has no or very few side effects and most people taking it have no problems at all. With all the scary side effects from the now available osteo drugs its a safe effective way to help build bone density and to reduce fracture risk. If you do a "strontium"search at the top of the page you'll find many threads that talk about it. If you have any questions just ask..there are several of us here taking it. There are also good article to be read online, do a search for strontium studies or just try stontium. Most studies will talk about strontium renalate ( the prescription form used in Europe) , but since the active ingredient in that is strontium citrate, which is what we buy, the info will be useful. take care and nice to meet you...phyllis
podiecat
01-05-2009, 09:44 AM
Hi Phylwill,
The liquid caps filled with calcium sound like a great idea! I can't stand the liquid plain so maybe that's a way to get a kind that's absorbable. Do you know of the most absorbable one in that form?
The liquid caps filled with calcium sound like a great idea! I can't stand the liquid plain so maybe that's a way to get a kind that's absorbable. Do you know of the most absorbable one in that form?
mskaty
01-05-2009, 11:33 AM
Thank you, Phyllis. Can you tell me about MK-7? Is this taken with Strontium or is it either or?
Do you or does anyone know if it is safe to stop Actonel cold turkey?
Thanks, All!! ;)
Do you or does anyone know if it is safe to stop Actonel cold turkey?
Thanks, All!! ;)
starfish81
01-05-2009, 02:08 PM
Hi Mskaty; you can take MK7 in addition to strontium (that's what I do). I take the strontium by itself at least 2 hours after eating-usually when I get up to go to the bathroom at night since I like my bedtime snacks:). The MK7 I take anytime during the day; I don't think it matters if food is eaten at the same time or not.
As far as quitting Actonel cold turkey, I would think that's fine too. Plenty of people stop cold because they've had a bad side effect. Unfortunately, bisphosphonates have an extremely long half-life. I understand they remain in the body for up to 10 years:eek:. So if you want to stop the drug route and use something more natural, the sooner the better.
As far as quitting Actonel cold turkey, I would think that's fine too. Plenty of people stop cold because they've had a bad side effect. Unfortunately, bisphosphonates have an extremely long half-life. I understand they remain in the body for up to 10 years:eek:. So if you want to stop the drug route and use something more natural, the sooner the better.
phylwill1152
01-05-2009, 02:12 PM
Hi carol... I don't know about brands or how well they are absorbed.. Nature Made has a liquid cap and i imagine there are other brands out there too.
Hi mskaty...i took actenol for a couple of months and just stopped without any problems except the minor side effects went away. I waited a month and then started strontium. I don't take the mk-7 so i can't help with that one. There are so many things to try and so many dos and don'ts that i stick to a few and let the others go. I also get plenty of exercise. If your don't have a fitness plan now is a good time to get one. Walking is good and so is weight training.
have a good day...take care..phyllis
Hi mskaty...i took actenol for a couple of months and just stopped without any problems except the minor side effects went away. I waited a month and then started strontium. I don't take the mk-7 so i can't help with that one. There are so many things to try and so many dos and don'ts that i stick to a few and let the others go. I also get plenty of exercise. If your don't have a fitness plan now is a good time to get one. Walking is good and so is weight training.
have a good day...take care..phyllis
Canna
01-05-2009, 05:10 PM
I just wanted to add that vitamin K is fat soluable so adding some (good) fats or supplementing with fish oil would be fine!!! Good Luck and welcome to the board Mskaty.. you will find lots of good info and lots of board members to share their views and assistance.
mskaty
01-06-2009, 11:21 AM
Thank you, girls. You are fantastic.
This has been quite a journey and a very upsetting one at that. I guess it has me so perplexed as I have never had any kind of bone fracture-even under the most extreme circumstances. I have wondered if the dexascan was improperly (or purposely improperly) read. I guess that's a little bit of conspiracy theory coming out. Much of the medical field is about pushing drugs so I don't have much faith. Then 1 drug will beget the need for another drug due to side effects, etc, etc. What a mess!
So no more Actonel for me. I will do my prescription Vit D, get strontium, progesterone cream & Vit MK-7. Does that sound right? What about Vit K, Vit A, & magnesium?
This has been quite a journey and a very upsetting one at that. I guess it has me so perplexed as I have never had any kind of bone fracture-even under the most extreme circumstances. I have wondered if the dexascan was improperly (or purposely improperly) read. I guess that's a little bit of conspiracy theory coming out. Much of the medical field is about pushing drugs so I don't have much faith. Then 1 drug will beget the need for another drug due to side effects, etc, etc. What a mess!
So no more Actonel for me. I will do my prescription Vit D, get strontium, progesterone cream & Vit MK-7. Does that sound right? What about Vit K, Vit A, & magnesium?
starfish81
01-06-2009, 03:11 PM
This has been quite a journey and a very upsetting one at that. I guess it has me so perplexed as I have never had any kind of bone fracture-even under the most extreme circumstances.
Yup, I can relate. My lumbar reading makes doctors cringe (-3.0 at age 52). I ended up with that despite doing "all the right things". I'm an avid skiier who loves the black diamonds...suffice it to say, when I fall I fall hard...but never fractured anything. I also do absolutely everything the rest of my intermediate-level Pilates class does and my vertebrae are just fine; if anything, my posture is better than it was 3 yrs ago.
I'm beginning to think, as you probably do too, that there's much more to it than just density, and density alone does not equate with strength.
You asked about magnesium, Vit K and Vit A. I believe most sources recommend calcium:magnesium in a 2:1 ratio, but that's only if you're using supplement form. I figure that with my diet I'm getting enough of both, plus my naturopath prefers food sources as opposed to supplements. I recently started MK7 at 90mcg once a day.
As for vitamin A, I read that too much can actually be detrimental to bone architecture, so I don't supplement that. Having said that, I don't avoid food sources of A (eg. carrots) at all...if it's part of a healthy diet, I eat it happily!
Yup, I can relate. My lumbar reading makes doctors cringe (-3.0 at age 52). I ended up with that despite doing "all the right things". I'm an avid skiier who loves the black diamonds...suffice it to say, when I fall I fall hard...but never fractured anything. I also do absolutely everything the rest of my intermediate-level Pilates class does and my vertebrae are just fine; if anything, my posture is better than it was 3 yrs ago.
I'm beginning to think, as you probably do too, that there's much more to it than just density, and density alone does not equate with strength.
You asked about magnesium, Vit K and Vit A. I believe most sources recommend calcium:magnesium in a 2:1 ratio, but that's only if you're using supplement form. I figure that with my diet I'm getting enough of both, plus my naturopath prefers food sources as opposed to supplements. I recently started MK7 at 90mcg once a day.
As for vitamin A, I read that too much can actually be detrimental to bone architecture, so I don't supplement that. Having said that, I don't avoid food sources of A (eg. carrots) at all...if it's part of a healthy diet, I eat it happily!
yef
01-07-2009, 10:32 AM
Hi Podiecat, you lucky Vermonter (I miss your state soooo much), glad to see you're back. I have used both AOR (Advanced Orthomolecular Research) and Doctor's Best brand strontium. I had no side effects with either. I've decided never to have another DEXA scan so I'll never know if it's helping or not, but I do know that others have increased their BMD with strontium use so I've chosen to assume that I too, will be one of the fortunate ones.
As for the MK7, I'm currently using Jarrow's and it's 90mcg. I take my Vitamin D in 2000IU gelcaps either twice or 3X/day.
Hi Starfish:
If you don't mind, can you share WHY you aren't planning on having another DEXA scan?
Thanks,
Yef
As for the MK7, I'm currently using Jarrow's and it's 90mcg. I take my Vitamin D in 2000IU gelcaps either twice or 3X/day.
Hi Starfish:
If you don't mind, can you share WHY you aren't planning on having another DEXA scan?
Thanks,
Yef
starfish81
01-07-2009, 02:35 PM
Hi Starfish:
If you don't mind, can you share WHY you aren't planning on having another DEXA scan?
Thanks,
Yef
Hi Yef; sure I can share that, although I warn you that once I start ranting I'll have to finish. I've had 5 of them, spanning from approx. ages 44-51. With all I did you'd have thought the first one would be good. But no--it showed osteopenia (for the lumbar anyway). Each successive one kept getting worse, and it seemed the harder I tried to maintain BMD the worse it got. I became so fed up with doctors accusing me of "not taking enough calcium" or somehow implying that this was all my fault:mad:. The last one had me around -3.0.
I have spent a small fortune on treatments that didn't help. Human growth hormone injections alone set me back over $15k, and although I had no side effects (aside from weight loss, which I didn't need) I now have this continual worry that maybe it will have some far-reaching negative consequences (think cancer). Psychologically, the continual plummeting of scores has caused anxiety, worry, and I don't think a day goes by that I'm not somehow reminded of my "condition".
Bottom line: I wish I'd never had the darn DEXA in the first place, because I already had a healthy lifestyle and probably will never fracture anything because we now know that density and strength are not necessarily co-related. As a result of these DEXA's I'm out tens of thousands of dollars, have subjected my body to dangerous drugs (hGh), and continue have untold anxiety and worry.
If another DEXA showed the density to have decreased even more, there's not a thing I'd do differently from what I'm now doing (translate: I don't care how low it goes, I'd never consider pharmaceuticals). I exercise regularly, eat well, supplement judiciously, and use strontium and MK7. Thus, I'm going to spare myself the agony of worrying over something that is apparently beyond my control.
Now if I could only stop worrying....:( Thanks for the opportunity to rant; hope that answers your question.
If you don't mind, can you share WHY you aren't planning on having another DEXA scan?
Thanks,
Yef
Hi Yef; sure I can share that, although I warn you that once I start ranting I'll have to finish. I've had 5 of them, spanning from approx. ages 44-51. With all I did you'd have thought the first one would be good. But no--it showed osteopenia (for the lumbar anyway). Each successive one kept getting worse, and it seemed the harder I tried to maintain BMD the worse it got. I became so fed up with doctors accusing me of "not taking enough calcium" or somehow implying that this was all my fault:mad:. The last one had me around -3.0.
I have spent a small fortune on treatments that didn't help. Human growth hormone injections alone set me back over $15k, and although I had no side effects (aside from weight loss, which I didn't need) I now have this continual worry that maybe it will have some far-reaching negative consequences (think cancer). Psychologically, the continual plummeting of scores has caused anxiety, worry, and I don't think a day goes by that I'm not somehow reminded of my "condition".
Bottom line: I wish I'd never had the darn DEXA in the first place, because I already had a healthy lifestyle and probably will never fracture anything because we now know that density and strength are not necessarily co-related. As a result of these DEXA's I'm out tens of thousands of dollars, have subjected my body to dangerous drugs (hGh), and continue have untold anxiety and worry.
If another DEXA showed the density to have decreased even more, there's not a thing I'd do differently from what I'm now doing (translate: I don't care how low it goes, I'd never consider pharmaceuticals). I exercise regularly, eat well, supplement judiciously, and use strontium and MK7. Thus, I'm going to spare myself the agony of worrying over something that is apparently beyond my control.
Now if I could only stop worrying....:( Thanks for the opportunity to rant; hope that answers your question.
yef
01-09-2009, 11:08 AM
Dear Starfish:
Thank you so much for taking time for your explanation. I have had 3 DEXA scans over the past 5 years. I am "overdue" for my next one, as per my physician. However, I am totally reluctant to go as I don't know if I would do anything differently. My doctor said we could try Evista if indicated. I have been "diagnosed" with osteopenia ... I am 47 years old. A few years ago, after my 2nd DEXA scan, I was prescribed Boniva and had severe bone pain within 48 hours. My prescription changed to Fosamax, which I declined. The more I read, the more I realized I didn't want ANY bisphosphonate medications. I exercise, eat right, take calcium citrate (hx of kidney stone) and have decided not to take any prescription medication. I am just starting to look into other suggestions on this site such as MK7 and Strontium (which I know NOTHING about). I, too, have decided to forego any future DEXA scans and that's why I wanted to know the reasoning behind your decision.
Thanks again,
Yef
P.S. Any places/sites you can recommend that offer suggestions on the above would be great!
Thank you so much for taking time for your explanation. I have had 3 DEXA scans over the past 5 years. I am "overdue" for my next one, as per my physician. However, I am totally reluctant to go as I don't know if I would do anything differently. My doctor said we could try Evista if indicated. I have been "diagnosed" with osteopenia ... I am 47 years old. A few years ago, after my 2nd DEXA scan, I was prescribed Boniva and had severe bone pain within 48 hours. My prescription changed to Fosamax, which I declined. The more I read, the more I realized I didn't want ANY bisphosphonate medications. I exercise, eat right, take calcium citrate (hx of kidney stone) and have decided not to take any prescription medication. I am just starting to look into other suggestions on this site such as MK7 and Strontium (which I know NOTHING about). I, too, have decided to forego any future DEXA scans and that's why I wanted to know the reasoning behind your decision.
Thanks again,
Yef
P.S. Any places/sites you can recommend that offer suggestions on the above would be great!
starfish81
01-09-2009, 01:56 PM
P.S. Any places/sites you can recommend that offer suggestions on the above would be great!
Hi Yef! I think these boards themselves offer the best info; you can type in "strontium" or MK7" or whatever and this will bring up previous threads dealing with your topic of choice.
We're not permitted to give websites or specify search engines, but there are several websites out there belonging to naturopathic offices that recommend strontium. Some of them have explanations or links to articles. I read a few of them before making my decision. Another poster (Canna) guided me to MK7.
I see you're another one of many who has had drugs pushed upon them to treat a "disease" (osteopenia) that didn't even exist pre-1980. I think this is criminal, and will ultimately end up just like the great HRT fiasco....another large-scale experiment on women:mad:!
Hi Yef! I think these boards themselves offer the best info; you can type in "strontium" or MK7" or whatever and this will bring up previous threads dealing with your topic of choice.
We're not permitted to give websites or specify search engines, but there are several websites out there belonging to naturopathic offices that recommend strontium. Some of them have explanations or links to articles. I read a few of them before making my decision. Another poster (Canna) guided me to MK7.
I see you're another one of many who has had drugs pushed upon them to treat a "disease" (osteopenia) that didn't even exist pre-1980. I think this is criminal, and will ultimately end up just like the great HRT fiasco....another large-scale experiment on women:mad:!
KATC45
01-10-2009, 02:25 PM
:confused:Hi Ladies,
So far you have been so helpful in keeping me and others up on information
about the osteoporosis problem (myth), etc.
I have ask my doctor about taking vitamin k-2(mk-7) with my forteo and was told to try it.
After reading this site for over a month now, I am now thinking that because my T-scores were so low and was told I have osteoporosis that I felt I had no other recourse but to take the Forteo.
But because of the scare factor, I am wondering if I should keep going with it.
Add the Mk-7 and now add the strontium and see what happens.
This is the first medication I have every taken in my life and still I do not feel
right about taking a drug. I do believe that the drug company's just push
drugs to much.
any imput will be helpful
katC
So far you have been so helpful in keeping me and others up on information
about the osteoporosis problem (myth), etc.
I have ask my doctor about taking vitamin k-2(mk-7) with my forteo and was told to try it.
After reading this site for over a month now, I am now thinking that because my T-scores were so low and was told I have osteoporosis that I felt I had no other recourse but to take the Forteo.
But because of the scare factor, I am wondering if I should keep going with it.
Add the Mk-7 and now add the strontium and see what happens.
This is the first medication I have every taken in my life and still I do not feel
right about taking a drug. I do believe that the drug company's just push
drugs to much.
any imput will be helpful
katC
mskaty
01-10-2009, 02:50 PM
Hi Ladies--
I have done a little homework on the subject of dexascans, as I am not a trusting person when it comes to doctors or the pharmaceutical industry. Low and behold (and you may all know this already) the pharmaceutical companies invested millions into the creation & promotion of the dexascans. Supposedly they were losing so much money in women becoming educated about HRT's that they had to have an alternative scam. That being said I (and my hubby) have faced a great deal of the past 6 months in incredible fear and on dangerous drugs. Basically my husband called all of us unsuspecting and trusting women guinea pigs, at the expense of the pharmaceutical companies. Many of us may not even have a problem or not nearly as severely as they would have us to believe. With your help and hubby's nudging I have gone off of Actonel forever & am approaching this (if there really is a problem) the way my body was designed to be helped: vitamins, minerals, exercise and eating more healthy. Realistically I can't lose by doing this, anyway. I know that this may fall on some willfully deceived ears, but that's ok. Many will read & acknowledge. I pray all of you will be the latter and will begin to help yourselves properly. Go forth in truth!!
I have done a little homework on the subject of dexascans, as I am not a trusting person when it comes to doctors or the pharmaceutical industry. Low and behold (and you may all know this already) the pharmaceutical companies invested millions into the creation & promotion of the dexascans. Supposedly they were losing so much money in women becoming educated about HRT's that they had to have an alternative scam. That being said I (and my hubby) have faced a great deal of the past 6 months in incredible fear and on dangerous drugs. Basically my husband called all of us unsuspecting and trusting women guinea pigs, at the expense of the pharmaceutical companies. Many of us may not even have a problem or not nearly as severely as they would have us to believe. With your help and hubby's nudging I have gone off of Actonel forever & am approaching this (if there really is a problem) the way my body was designed to be helped: vitamins, minerals, exercise and eating more healthy. Realistically I can't lose by doing this, anyway. I know that this may fall on some willfully deceived ears, but that's ok. Many will read & acknowledge. I pray all of you will be the latter and will begin to help yourselves properly. Go forth in truth!!
phylwill1152
01-11-2009, 08:59 AM
Hi mskaty...well said, you and your husband have come up with a solution that is right for you and one that is sounds like you'll be able to live happily with. I too believe that the pharma companies have created the need/fear for so many women and men to take the osteo drugs. Us baby boomers are a great source of income for them and they know we all want to stay healthy and active for as long as possible. There is a big difference between bone density and bone strength and i feel even without perfect density if your bones are good and strong they will carry you a long way. Also, just because the density isn't perfect it doesn't mean they you will or ever will break a bone. Like everything else its luck of the draw and hoping for good odds. And you are so right...exercise, supplements and a good diet not only help the bones, but the rest of you as well.
Hi KATC45...you have a choice, you can either follow what your dr. says to do or follow your own instincts. Your dr, being a dr, is trained to do what he can for his patients, so he will encourage the drugs and trust the mainstream way of doing things. He is also being guided by the pharma reps who come to his office with samples and a sales pitch. Its up to you to decide which route is best for you. When i was first dx i was told to take actenol, which i did for 2 months. After minor side effects popped up i decided it was not right for me. I told my dr. that i stopped and was going to try strontium instead. He wasn't happy with that but when i told him he was off the hook for any future happenings he seemed relieved. That was the right decision for me. Have you discussed your doubts with the dr? If not, the next time you see him go armed with info that supports whatever route you decide to take. he will either agree or disagree, but the decision is yours.
take care...phyllis
Hi KATC45...you have a choice, you can either follow what your dr. says to do or follow your own instincts. Your dr, being a dr, is trained to do what he can for his patients, so he will encourage the drugs and trust the mainstream way of doing things. He is also being guided by the pharma reps who come to his office with samples and a sales pitch. Its up to you to decide which route is best for you. When i was first dx i was told to take actenol, which i did for 2 months. After minor side effects popped up i decided it was not right for me. I told my dr. that i stopped and was going to try strontium instead. He wasn't happy with that but when i told him he was off the hook for any future happenings he seemed relieved. That was the right decision for me. Have you discussed your doubts with the dr? If not, the next time you see him go armed with info that supports whatever route you decide to take. he will either agree or disagree, but the decision is yours.
take care...phyllis
StarSong
01-11-2009, 03:17 PM
Katc45
Deciding what is best for you is always difficult because none of here on this board know your situation.
In my situation, I have osteoporosis because I have celiac disease which is a malabsorption disease. I went on a gluten free diet that should have stopped or improved my bone density. I took nothing else for one year e.g. no protection. For me all the calcium, exercise, magnesium, vitamin D and gluten free diet did not stop my density from dropping from a -4.0 to a -4.8. It took two years of Forteo to bring it back to a -4.0. I have been on actonel for 8 months and have had a adverse reaction so I am stopping until they can check it out. For me! I know I need protection of some kind.
Hopefully the Amgen product Denosumab will be a possibility but that is a year or two away if it is approved. In the meantime I'm also going to have to educate my doc on strontium I've got a number of scientific papers on strontium renalate (however you spell it). I may even try to talk my doc into letting me take more Forteo, cyclically, until the Amgen product is available.
Be your own advocate with your docs if you are not getting straight answers switch and find someone who will. This is your life not theirs. Whatever you decide it will be the best for you.
Good luck
Deciding what is best for you is always difficult because none of here on this board know your situation.
In my situation, I have osteoporosis because I have celiac disease which is a malabsorption disease. I went on a gluten free diet that should have stopped or improved my bone density. I took nothing else for one year e.g. no protection. For me all the calcium, exercise, magnesium, vitamin D and gluten free diet did not stop my density from dropping from a -4.0 to a -4.8. It took two years of Forteo to bring it back to a -4.0. I have been on actonel for 8 months and have had a adverse reaction so I am stopping until they can check it out. For me! I know I need protection of some kind.
Hopefully the Amgen product Denosumab will be a possibility but that is a year or two away if it is approved. In the meantime I'm also going to have to educate my doc on strontium I've got a number of scientific papers on strontium renalate (however you spell it). I may even try to talk my doc into letting me take more Forteo, cyclically, until the Amgen product is available.
Be your own advocate with your docs if you are not getting straight answers switch and find someone who will. This is your life not theirs. Whatever you decide it will be the best for you.
Good luck
starfish81
01-12-2009, 04:09 PM
Hi Ladies--
I (and my hubby) have faced a great deal of the past 6 months in incredible fear and on dangerous drugs. Basically my husband called all of us unsuspecting and trusting women guinea pigs, at the expense of the pharmaceutical companies. Many of us may not even have a problem or not nearly as severely as they would have us to believe.
Right on! The marketing of fear. Now if we could just get rid of the lingering terror that we're somehow fragile and abnormal, think how much better we'd feel!
I (and my hubby) have faced a great deal of the past 6 months in incredible fear and on dangerous drugs. Basically my husband called all of us unsuspecting and trusting women guinea pigs, at the expense of the pharmaceutical companies. Many of us may not even have a problem or not nearly as severely as they would have us to believe.
Right on! The marketing of fear. Now if we could just get rid of the lingering terror that we're somehow fragile and abnormal, think how much better we'd feel!