blinkwatt
01-08-2009, 12:49 PM
My father has/had melanoma and has had it since he was a teen. I do not. I'm 21,a huge health nut;exercise a lot,eat extremely healthy(no trans fat in 3 years,and all my food was once alive or is from the earth and is made in the kitchen) and want to stay that way. That being said I'm trying my hardest to keep my chances of melanoma low and can use experienced peoples advice.
My father,44, didn't spend much time in the sun when he was younger and didn't grow up that healthy. He burns very easily. He has had 100+ moles removed over the past 30 years. I on the other hand used to skim board almost daily and jog shirtless. The only time I get any form of a burn occurs on my back from laying on the tanning bed. I rarely ever get any form of a burn from sun,I think it's due to my application of lotion after sun exposure.
During the winter I use a tanning bed once a week or every other week for 12 minutes. During the summer I will go once or twice a week depending on how much time I spend at the lake. There is nothing like having a nice tan.
I have small non cancerous(as verified by my Doctor) moles. I'm not going to lie,I had some worries after a couple of smalls moles showed up after using the tanning bed for a couple of years...but then the doctor laughed at me and said I have nothing to worry about,I'm the healthiest kid he's ever seen.
I will be moving to San Diego this year and will be spending a lot more time in the sun and probably less in the tanning bed.
I'm looking for advice and past experiences of anyone who has had skin cancer;
-how much were in the sun from your teens to mod 20's?
-did you use any SPF protection?
-Is there skin cancer in your family?
-Do you eat healthy?(no trans fat,butter & other unhealthy foods)
-Did/do you exercise a lot?
-Any advice for me?
Thank you I appreciate your time. Nice forum you guys have here.:wave:
*On a side note,my lower half of my body is darker then my upper half,so I keep pants on in the tanning bed to make sure I come out evenly tan in the end.
My father,44, didn't spend much time in the sun when he was younger and didn't grow up that healthy. He burns very easily. He has had 100+ moles removed over the past 30 years. I on the other hand used to skim board almost daily and jog shirtless. The only time I get any form of a burn occurs on my back from laying on the tanning bed. I rarely ever get any form of a burn from sun,I think it's due to my application of lotion after sun exposure.
During the winter I use a tanning bed once a week or every other week for 12 minutes. During the summer I will go once or twice a week depending on how much time I spend at the lake. There is nothing like having a nice tan.
I have small non cancerous(as verified by my Doctor) moles. I'm not going to lie,I had some worries after a couple of smalls moles showed up after using the tanning bed for a couple of years...but then the doctor laughed at me and said I have nothing to worry about,I'm the healthiest kid he's ever seen.
I will be moving to San Diego this year and will be spending a lot more time in the sun and probably less in the tanning bed.
I'm looking for advice and past experiences of anyone who has had skin cancer;
-how much were in the sun from your teens to mod 20's?
-did you use any SPF protection?
-Is there skin cancer in your family?
-Do you eat healthy?(no trans fat,butter & other unhealthy foods)
-Did/do you exercise a lot?
-Any advice for me?
Thank you I appreciate your time. Nice forum you guys have here.:wave:
*On a side note,my lower half of my body is darker then my upper half,so I keep pants on in the tanning bed to make sure I come out evenly tan in the end.
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Chele60
01-08-2009, 03:13 PM
I am significantly older than you at 48, but I had my melanoma diagnosed and removed at 46. Luckily, I was staged at 1B, but I still live with some concern about making my 10 year anniversary.
As for you, there are more risk factors than simply living or not living a healthy life. Those individuals who have fair skin are at higher risk. (Though that is not to say those with darker complexions cannot get melanoma - Bob Marley died from Melanoma.) Red/Blond haired people have a higher risk. Those individuals with a lot of moles, especially those that change have a higher risk. If there is a blood relative who has had melanoma, your risk is significantly increased and you should be having regular skin checks.
Sun exposure for everyone places individuals at a higher risk, especially without sun protection. Putting lotion after exposure to the sun is supposed to do...what? Moisten the skin, yes, but protect against melanoma? Yeah, I don't think so. And tanning beds? They are as bad as being in the sun, doesn't matter the amount of time. Any dermatologist who specializes in melanoma (and not botox injections) will tell you that.
It seems you are a man? So that would mean your risk would be higher on the torso and arms - just something to keep in mind. And something else to keep in mind - melanoma has NO CURE! There are treatments, yes, but NO CURE. And once melanoma reaches stage 4, unless you are very, very lucky, the prognosis is 6 to 9 months. I've known many people who have fought this disease and ultimately died, most in their late 20s and early 30s. There is a reason why late stage melanoma patients call this cancer the "beast." It is extremely aggressive and something to take very seriously.
But, enough lecture. I'm not sure if you'll listen anyway. To answer your questions:
1. how much were in the sun from your teens to mod 20's?
A LOT! I was a typical Southern California teenager - I practically lived at the beach in the summer. The most important thing between June to September was getting that "perfect tan." I mean, one just could NOT go back to school in September unless one was a golden shade of tan! Back then (the 70s) we truly didn't care if we had to "die for that perfect tan." It all seemed so important then.
In my 20s the pursuit of the tan continued. I was either at the beach or at the pool. And my vacations were in places like Hawaii, Cancun, Mexico, or Jamaica. If it involved water and sun, I was there!
2. did you use any SPF protection?
Now, why would I do that? Seriously, we all wanted to be TAN!!! Okay, you have to understand the times I was living in. I was a teen in the 70s. This was a time of not only tanning lotion but tanning OIL! If that didn't work, we would pour baby oil on our bodies. We wanted tan, and we wanted it fast. Lotions didn't cut it, oil was the only thing that worked. I don't even know if sun screen was sold back then. It must have been, but we didn't think about, know about, certainly didn't buy it.
When I was in my 20s, you are talking about the 80s. Sun protection was just beginning to become something people were becoming aware of. But, heck! C'mon! You're 22, you know how it is - you're gonna live forever, right? And besides, by the time you have to start worrying about getting old and all that stuff, they'll have a cure or something for it. Besides, what're the odds that'll YOU will get that? I mean, really. Yeah. Well, that's where my mind was at when I was 22 as well.
3. Is there skin cancer in your family?
What type? Melanoma? No, I have the dubious honor of being the first. How lovely. My mother was diagnosed (after me) with basal cell cancer, which she had removed. I wish I would have been as lucky as my mother.
4. Do you eat healthy?(no trans fat,butter & other unhealthy foods)
Now? Or when I was younger? Or all my life? When I was a teen, I ate as all teen pretty much do. In my 20s, I did the healthy thing (with the exception of the sun thing): practically lived at the gym, very active, ate healthy. In my 30s life got busy and chaotic - my father passed away and I developed a serious health problem. Eating healthy became less of a priority for me. In my 40s (now) with aging and the health problem in the 30s being resolved, I've once again focused on my overall health and a major part of that what I eat. I'm not obsessive about it like I was in my 20s, but I'm cautious that what I put into my body does my body good.
5. Did/do you exercise a lot?
Well, I think I sort of covered that, but throughout my teens/20s I was very active, yes. With the health problems I had in my 30s (vertigo problems), it was difficult to impossible to be very active. However, now that has been resolved, I have once again become active, and enjoy being so. I don't do what I did when I was 20, naturally. But I fitness walk (participate in 5ks, with the hope of walking a half-marathon soon), hike, yoga, bowl, and will occasionally hop on the old bike!
6. Any advice for me?
Oh, lots of advice! :) However, I do mean well. I have read so many people's stories and have gotten to know a fair number of people who have suffered and died from melanoma. This is actually a fairly easy cancer to protect oneself from. I know how hard it can be to resist the temptation that society places on people - especially young people - to have that "look." Especially here in So Cal, where looks matter so much. I can't tell you how many times in the past year people have told me I should "get some color." And these are people who KNOW I've had melanoma! You are young, you are healthy, you have so much life ahead of you. Please, don't put any of this at risk just for the sake of making your skin a few shades darker. If you were to develop melanoma, what cost would that be to you? And you do realize you can develop melanoma in places you can't see easily, right? The scalp, private areas, soles of the feet? These are areas where melanoma can spread and you have no idea before it's too late.
Enjoy your life with all the energy you have! But protect yourself as well. It's so simple to do, and has big payoffs in the end. Besides, you speak of being health conscious, but have seen people who have been exposed to the sun a lot when they are older? It's not always pretty! Take care of the body you have now in ALL ways, and it will take care of you later!
As for you, there are more risk factors than simply living or not living a healthy life. Those individuals who have fair skin are at higher risk. (Though that is not to say those with darker complexions cannot get melanoma - Bob Marley died from Melanoma.) Red/Blond haired people have a higher risk. Those individuals with a lot of moles, especially those that change have a higher risk. If there is a blood relative who has had melanoma, your risk is significantly increased and you should be having regular skin checks.
Sun exposure for everyone places individuals at a higher risk, especially without sun protection. Putting lotion after exposure to the sun is supposed to do...what? Moisten the skin, yes, but protect against melanoma? Yeah, I don't think so. And tanning beds? They are as bad as being in the sun, doesn't matter the amount of time. Any dermatologist who specializes in melanoma (and not botox injections) will tell you that.
It seems you are a man? So that would mean your risk would be higher on the torso and arms - just something to keep in mind. And something else to keep in mind - melanoma has NO CURE! There are treatments, yes, but NO CURE. And once melanoma reaches stage 4, unless you are very, very lucky, the prognosis is 6 to 9 months. I've known many people who have fought this disease and ultimately died, most in their late 20s and early 30s. There is a reason why late stage melanoma patients call this cancer the "beast." It is extremely aggressive and something to take very seriously.
But, enough lecture. I'm not sure if you'll listen anyway. To answer your questions:
1. how much were in the sun from your teens to mod 20's?
A LOT! I was a typical Southern California teenager - I practically lived at the beach in the summer. The most important thing between June to September was getting that "perfect tan." I mean, one just could NOT go back to school in September unless one was a golden shade of tan! Back then (the 70s) we truly didn't care if we had to "die for that perfect tan." It all seemed so important then.
In my 20s the pursuit of the tan continued. I was either at the beach or at the pool. And my vacations were in places like Hawaii, Cancun, Mexico, or Jamaica. If it involved water and sun, I was there!
2. did you use any SPF protection?
Now, why would I do that? Seriously, we all wanted to be TAN!!! Okay, you have to understand the times I was living in. I was a teen in the 70s. This was a time of not only tanning lotion but tanning OIL! If that didn't work, we would pour baby oil on our bodies. We wanted tan, and we wanted it fast. Lotions didn't cut it, oil was the only thing that worked. I don't even know if sun screen was sold back then. It must have been, but we didn't think about, know about, certainly didn't buy it.
When I was in my 20s, you are talking about the 80s. Sun protection was just beginning to become something people were becoming aware of. But, heck! C'mon! You're 22, you know how it is - you're gonna live forever, right? And besides, by the time you have to start worrying about getting old and all that stuff, they'll have a cure or something for it. Besides, what're the odds that'll YOU will get that? I mean, really. Yeah. Well, that's where my mind was at when I was 22 as well.
3. Is there skin cancer in your family?
What type? Melanoma? No, I have the dubious honor of being the first. How lovely. My mother was diagnosed (after me) with basal cell cancer, which she had removed. I wish I would have been as lucky as my mother.
4. Do you eat healthy?(no trans fat,butter & other unhealthy foods)
Now? Or when I was younger? Or all my life? When I was a teen, I ate as all teen pretty much do. In my 20s, I did the healthy thing (with the exception of the sun thing): practically lived at the gym, very active, ate healthy. In my 30s life got busy and chaotic - my father passed away and I developed a serious health problem. Eating healthy became less of a priority for me. In my 40s (now) with aging and the health problem in the 30s being resolved, I've once again focused on my overall health and a major part of that what I eat. I'm not obsessive about it like I was in my 20s, but I'm cautious that what I put into my body does my body good.
5. Did/do you exercise a lot?
Well, I think I sort of covered that, but throughout my teens/20s I was very active, yes. With the health problems I had in my 30s (vertigo problems), it was difficult to impossible to be very active. However, now that has been resolved, I have once again become active, and enjoy being so. I don't do what I did when I was 20, naturally. But I fitness walk (participate in 5ks, with the hope of walking a half-marathon soon), hike, yoga, bowl, and will occasionally hop on the old bike!
6. Any advice for me?
Oh, lots of advice! :) However, I do mean well. I have read so many people's stories and have gotten to know a fair number of people who have suffered and died from melanoma. This is actually a fairly easy cancer to protect oneself from. I know how hard it can be to resist the temptation that society places on people - especially young people - to have that "look." Especially here in So Cal, where looks matter so much. I can't tell you how many times in the past year people have told me I should "get some color." And these are people who KNOW I've had melanoma! You are young, you are healthy, you have so much life ahead of you. Please, don't put any of this at risk just for the sake of making your skin a few shades darker. If you were to develop melanoma, what cost would that be to you? And you do realize you can develop melanoma in places you can't see easily, right? The scalp, private areas, soles of the feet? These are areas where melanoma can spread and you have no idea before it's too late.
Enjoy your life with all the energy you have! But protect yourself as well. It's so simple to do, and has big payoffs in the end. Besides, you speak of being health conscious, but have seen people who have been exposed to the sun a lot when they are older? It's not always pretty! Take care of the body you have now in ALL ways, and it will take care of you later!
blinkwatt
01-08-2009, 03:18 PM
:wave:
Thank you,that was exactly the type of post I was looking for. It was detailed,in depth and gave me the entire scenario clearly.
Another question? If I have long longer hair that covers my scalp should skin cancer be a concern? I can have someone inspect my scalp at home no problem.
As far as using lotion after sun exposure. If I use lotion I don't burn peroid. I'm not sore,my skin doesn't peel and I feel soft. I heard/read that getting sun burns is where most of the damage occurs.
Thank you,that was exactly the type of post I was looking for. It was detailed,in depth and gave me the entire scenario clearly.
Another question? If I have long longer hair that covers my scalp should skin cancer be a concern? I can have someone inspect my scalp at home no problem.
As far as using lotion after sun exposure. If I use lotion I don't burn peroid. I'm not sore,my skin doesn't peel and I feel soft. I heard/read that getting sun burns is where most of the damage occurs.
Rockford2
01-09-2009, 11:22 PM
My father has/had melanoma and has had it since he was a teen. I do not. I'm 21,a huge health nut;exercise a lot,eat extremely healthy(no trans fat in 3 years,and all my food was once alive or is from the earth and is made in the kitchen) and want to stay that way. That being said I'm trying my hardest to keep my chances of melanoma low and can use experienced peoples advice.
My father,44, didn't spend much time in the sun when he was younger and didn't grow up that healthy. He burns very easily. He has had 100+ moles removed over the past 30 years. I on the other hand used to skim board almost daily and jog shirtless. The only time I get any form of a burn occurs on my back from laying on the tanning bed. I rarely ever get any form of a burn from sun,I think it's due to my application of lotion after sun exposure.
During the winter I use a tanning bed once a week or every other week for 12 minutes. During the summer I will go once or twice a week depending on how much time I spend at the lake. There is nothing like having a nice tan.
I have small non cancerous(as verified by my Doctor) moles. I'm not going to lie,I had some worries after a couple of smalls moles showed up after using the tanning bed for a couple of years...but then the doctor laughed at me and said I have nothing to worry about,I'm the healthiest kid he's ever seen.
I will be moving to San Diego this year and will be spending a lot more time in the sun and probably less in the tanning bed.
I'm looking for advice and past experiences of anyone who has had skin cancer;
-how much were in the sun from your teens to mod 20's?
-did you use any SPF protection?
-Is there skin cancer in your family?
-Do you eat healthy?(no trans fat,butter & other unhealthy foods)
-Did/do you exercise a lot?
-Any advice for me?
Thank you I appreciate your time. Nice forum you guys have here.:wave:
*On a side note,my lower half of my body is darker then my upper half,so I keep pants on in the tanning bed to make sure I come out evenly tan in the end.
I really hope you take Chele's advice to heart, Blinkwatt, as here is MY story. Just turned 47, so I can relate to everything that Chele has posted....with the exception of getting that perfect tan. I just wanted a little color as I am very fair complextion with very blonde hair and almost white skin.
I can remember receiving 3 bad burns in my life. I can remember just a handful of times of sitting out in the sun for any length of time. MY burns occured at picnics, amusement parks, and always swimming outside.
I just had a stage 1 melanoma removed TODAY. I cannot believe how deep the surgeon had to dig into my skin. From now on, I will ALWAYS wear a wide brimmed hat to cover my scalp, ears, and face. And ANY part of my skin that is exposed will be covered in high SPF levels to try and block the sun.
I feel your generation is lucky that you know the risks. Our generation did not, and i wish I could go back in time with this knowlege. I don't want to die at age 47, and trust me, you WILL reach this age at some point. Good luck to you.
My father,44, didn't spend much time in the sun when he was younger and didn't grow up that healthy. He burns very easily. He has had 100+ moles removed over the past 30 years. I on the other hand used to skim board almost daily and jog shirtless. The only time I get any form of a burn occurs on my back from laying on the tanning bed. I rarely ever get any form of a burn from sun,I think it's due to my application of lotion after sun exposure.
During the winter I use a tanning bed once a week or every other week for 12 minutes. During the summer I will go once or twice a week depending on how much time I spend at the lake. There is nothing like having a nice tan.
I have small non cancerous(as verified by my Doctor) moles. I'm not going to lie,I had some worries after a couple of smalls moles showed up after using the tanning bed for a couple of years...but then the doctor laughed at me and said I have nothing to worry about,I'm the healthiest kid he's ever seen.
I will be moving to San Diego this year and will be spending a lot more time in the sun and probably less in the tanning bed.
I'm looking for advice and past experiences of anyone who has had skin cancer;
-how much were in the sun from your teens to mod 20's?
-did you use any SPF protection?
-Is there skin cancer in your family?
-Do you eat healthy?(no trans fat,butter & other unhealthy foods)
-Did/do you exercise a lot?
-Any advice for me?
Thank you I appreciate your time. Nice forum you guys have here.:wave:
*On a side note,my lower half of my body is darker then my upper half,so I keep pants on in the tanning bed to make sure I come out evenly tan in the end.
I really hope you take Chele's advice to heart, Blinkwatt, as here is MY story. Just turned 47, so I can relate to everything that Chele has posted....with the exception of getting that perfect tan. I just wanted a little color as I am very fair complextion with very blonde hair and almost white skin.
I can remember receiving 3 bad burns in my life. I can remember just a handful of times of sitting out in the sun for any length of time. MY burns occured at picnics, amusement parks, and always swimming outside.
I just had a stage 1 melanoma removed TODAY. I cannot believe how deep the surgeon had to dig into my skin. From now on, I will ALWAYS wear a wide brimmed hat to cover my scalp, ears, and face. And ANY part of my skin that is exposed will be covered in high SPF levels to try and block the sun.
I feel your generation is lucky that you know the risks. Our generation did not, and i wish I could go back in time with this knowlege. I don't want to die at age 47, and trust me, you WILL reach this age at some point. Good luck to you.
Chele60
01-12-2009, 01:57 PM
Sorry I didn't respond sooner, but I've been battling an evil cold that has left me feeling wiped out!
If you have some one that you can rely on to check your scalp, that should be fine. Being of the female variety of our species I leave that to my hairdresser. Just keep in mind that having thick/long hair is not a protection. (My hair is both, yet my scalp has a lot of moles)
The propensity to burn is a stronger indicator for melanoma, yes. I was normally one of those people who would burn, then tan. But that is not always the case, and it can only take one serious burn to do significant damage. Individuals with the darkest skin pigments are those in Africa and the Indian sub-continent - they do not suffer sunburn. And, while melanoma is rare in those populations, the disease does strike those individuals as well.
I'm not telling you to not enjoy the sun. I know the warmth of the sun feels terrific, especially when one is at the beach feeling the gentle breezes and watching the waves roll in. It can be a slice of sheer heaven! But there are smart ways of enjoying the sun, and then there are not-so-smart ways of enjoying the sun. I just want people to be in the first category, especially knowing how deadly melanoma is and how terrifyingly young some of its victims can be!
If you have some one that you can rely on to check your scalp, that should be fine. Being of the female variety of our species I leave that to my hairdresser. Just keep in mind that having thick/long hair is not a protection. (My hair is both, yet my scalp has a lot of moles)
The propensity to burn is a stronger indicator for melanoma, yes. I was normally one of those people who would burn, then tan. But that is not always the case, and it can only take one serious burn to do significant damage. Individuals with the darkest skin pigments are those in Africa and the Indian sub-continent - they do not suffer sunburn. And, while melanoma is rare in those populations, the disease does strike those individuals as well.
I'm not telling you to not enjoy the sun. I know the warmth of the sun feels terrific, especially when one is at the beach feeling the gentle breezes and watching the waves roll in. It can be a slice of sheer heaven! But there are smart ways of enjoying the sun, and then there are not-so-smart ways of enjoying the sun. I just want people to be in the first category, especially knowing how deadly melanoma is and how terrifyingly young some of its victims can be!
Oleander53
01-23-2009, 08:09 PM
My Father had a total of 6 melanomas. All were caught early. His first one was in his late 40's and his last one was in his 90's. None of his brothers or family members had any melanomas. All of his were ear, face and neck with the exception of one on his back. They were all of lavender color and itched. None were existing moles.He got wonder treatment at the Melanoma Clinic at the VA Hospital in Long Beach Ca......He never smoked, very little alcohol and ate what he wanted. He was very active physically and in good physical shape until his death. His Autopsy showed liver cancer at 94 not related to melanoma. So you see he lived a long life after Melanoma.
My brothers and I were all raised on the beach in So California. I am fair and have had numerous sunburns..way too much sun..I am 55. I have 2 older brothers one had a melanoma on his shoulder discovered 2 years ago at 57. Caught early and it was an existing mole. He is dark skinned compared to the rest of us. But he did surf most of his life was had a ton of sun exposure. My other brother who is 61 and red head has not had any problem.
I go for check ups frequently and if anything comes up on me or any mole looks funny at all I have it removed.. I have had too much sun and have 2 blood relatives with Melanoma so why chance it. I try to eat right and do not smoke. I get plenty of excercise. I feel much of this is genetic but I take precautions... I am actually waiting for Pathology on something right now that my Doctor took off that she felt looked suspicious yesterday.
I hope this helps you somehow.... I am usually on the thyroid board.....
Good Luck.....Oleander
My brothers and I were all raised on the beach in So California. I am fair and have had numerous sunburns..way too much sun..I am 55. I have 2 older brothers one had a melanoma on his shoulder discovered 2 years ago at 57. Caught early and it was an existing mole. He is dark skinned compared to the rest of us. But he did surf most of his life was had a ton of sun exposure. My other brother who is 61 and red head has not had any problem.
I go for check ups frequently and if anything comes up on me or any mole looks funny at all I have it removed.. I have had too much sun and have 2 blood relatives with Melanoma so why chance it. I try to eat right and do not smoke. I get plenty of excercise. I feel much of this is genetic but I take precautions... I am actually waiting for Pathology on something right now that my Doctor took off that she felt looked suspicious yesterday.
I hope this helps you somehow.... I am usually on the thyroid board.....
Good Luck.....Oleander