moderator3
02-13-2001, 06:07 PM
(my apologies to mod5 and dave00007_7, I deleted this one by mistake, mod3)
www.IBS-Tips.co.uk (http://www.IBS-Tips.co.uk)
originaly posted 02-13-2001 03:00 PM by dave00007_7
Hi,
Early last year I was diagnosed with irritable bowel syndrome (IBS), after suffering from it for nearly 5 years. I had the usual symptoms: diarrhoea, constipation, stomach cramps/abdominal pain, excessive gas, and heartburn; plus other symptoms: groin pain, chronic fatigue, panic attacks.
After 6 months of research and experimentation, I managed to completely cure myself of IBS – I have no symptoms whatsoever! In fact, I feel better now than I have done for many years – focused, energetic, happy, relaxed, confident.
Previously, my life was controlled and dominated by IBS. Doctors and so-called “experts” were of no help. That’s when I decided it was up to me to beat IBS, because no one else could help!
After months of research - reading dozens of books and thousands of articles – I began to change my view of IBS from an irritable or dysfunctional bowel to a strained digestive system. And this lead me to eventually curing IBS.
I’ve begun to create a Website dedicated to IBS sufferers. It contains my own articles and tips that helped me to beat IBS.
http://www.IBS-Tips.co.uk
(Hope it’s ok to include the URL?)
I’d be interested in any feedback.
Regards,
Dave
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www.IBS-Tips.co.uk (http://www.IBS-Tips.co.uk)
originaly posted 02-13-2001 03:00 PM by dave00007_7
Hi,
Early last year I was diagnosed with irritable bowel syndrome (IBS), after suffering from it for nearly 5 years. I had the usual symptoms: diarrhoea, constipation, stomach cramps/abdominal pain, excessive gas, and heartburn; plus other symptoms: groin pain, chronic fatigue, panic attacks.
After 6 months of research and experimentation, I managed to completely cure myself of IBS – I have no symptoms whatsoever! In fact, I feel better now than I have done for many years – focused, energetic, happy, relaxed, confident.
Previously, my life was controlled and dominated by IBS. Doctors and so-called “experts” were of no help. That’s when I decided it was up to me to beat IBS, because no one else could help!
After months of research - reading dozens of books and thousands of articles – I began to change my view of IBS from an irritable or dysfunctional bowel to a strained digestive system. And this lead me to eventually curing IBS.
I’ve begun to create a Website dedicated to IBS sufferers. It contains my own articles and tips that helped me to beat IBS.
http://www.IBS-Tips.co.uk
(Hope it’s ok to include the URL?)
I’d be interested in any feedback.
Regards,
Dave
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Harry
02-14-2001, 02:29 AM
Hi Dave,
I think your site is very good. I know it took a ALOT of time, reseach and effort to put together such a useful Web Site.
Feedback: There are several things I suggest you expand on the tips about intestinal bacteria, fiber and food. There were no Tips 13 & 14. In the USA we usually spell diarrhea not diarrhoea but I know it is correct to use an "o".I looked in a dictionary.I have seen it spelled many other wrong ways.
I am also a big believer in taking a water soluble fiber supplement like psyllium husk or methylcellulose. They are both safe and effective. Also, I think you should talk more about the foods that some people are allergic and/or intolerant to ---they cause reactions like diarrhea.
Thanks----Harry
I think your site is very good. I know it took a ALOT of time, reseach and effort to put together such a useful Web Site.
Feedback: There are several things I suggest you expand on the tips about intestinal bacteria, fiber and food. There were no Tips 13 & 14. In the USA we usually spell diarrhea not diarrhoea but I know it is correct to use an "o".I looked in a dictionary.I have seen it spelled many other wrong ways.
I am also a big believer in taking a water soluble fiber supplement like psyllium husk or methylcellulose. They are both safe and effective. Also, I think you should talk more about the foods that some people are allergic and/or intolerant to ---they cause reactions like diarrhea.
Thanks----Harry
incoherant
02-15-2001, 08:14 AM
Does this honestly work??
Ann S
02-15-2001, 08:53 PM
What about for people whose IBS is connected with autoimmune disorders??
What about Schuster's (Johns Hopkins) research that has proven the interplay among the nerves, hormones, & electrical activity that link the brain and the bowel. In IBS people this activity is different.
I think alot of your advice is good & will certainly help, but I don't feel you can make generalizations/guarantees that will cure all & hold true for all. Ann
What about Schuster's (Johns Hopkins) research that has proven the interplay among the nerves, hormones, & electrical activity that link the brain and the bowel. In IBS people this activity is different.
I think alot of your advice is good & will certainly help, but I don't feel you can make generalizations/guarantees that will cure all & hold true for all. Ann
Ann S
02-16-2001, 10:11 PM
Dave,
What you said...
-I have not come across a single doctor that has mentioned a possible link between IBS and autoimmune disorders!-
You're right about that! In all my research and personal experience, I've never heard of it either. Also, I'm guilty of generalizing too. The connection I've found is with people that have Lupus, I don't know about the other autoimmune diseases. Again, I had never read or heard of this connection until recently either. There are just too many people with Lupus who also have developed IBS for it to be a coincidence. I'm not saying all people with IBS should be tested for Lupus, but Drs. should ask Lupus patients about IBS symptoms. The point I was trying to make was that there are other possible causes for IBS, besides just your theory of food allergies.
You also said.....
-You are misrepresenting Schuster's research. Schuster's suggests that spastic contractions may cause abdominal pain in some IBS sufferers. Period! What causes spastic contractions?-
I am not misrepresenting Schuster!!! In the study that I read, researchers using a brain imaging technique called positron emission tomography (PET) found that brain activity differed between IBS and non-IBS subjects when their guts were stimulated. "Normally, the ACC(anterior cingulate cortex) lights up, and this happens to be the part of the brain where opioid transmitters are released," Dr Schuster explains, "So people without IBS have intrinsic narcotics and don't perceive GI pain the way people with IBS do." The information I read claims that "the origin of the disorder lies in the interplay among the nerves, hormones and different electrical activity that link the bowel and the brain". It goes on to say that "IBS patients have extra-sensitive pain sensors and that these unusually sensitive and reactive nerves appear to be what cuases the muscle contractions that underlie IBS". It claims that food only triggers the IBS symptoms, it is not the cause. This research is what has led some Drs. to prescribe antidepressants, which they believe might work on calming neurotransmitters and having an analgesic effect on them.
You said....
-I don't mean to generalize or to suggest guaranteed cures. But life is too short to be controlled and dominated by IBS, especially when most sufferers can do something about it. If I had listened the medical
establishment when I was diagnosed, I would still be suffering from IBS now. -
I don't have any great love for or faith in the medical profession either!!
I think your idea is a good one and may work for some people, but in my experience, different things work for different people. Don't rule out every thing else that might work better for other people....Keep your mind open. Often a combination of things work best. Each person should keep trying different things (including yours), till they find something that works for them! Harry's water soluable fiber isn't the cure either, but it sure helps make life easier for a lot of us. Ann
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What you said...
-I have not come across a single doctor that has mentioned a possible link between IBS and autoimmune disorders!-
You're right about that! In all my research and personal experience, I've never heard of it either. Also, I'm guilty of generalizing too. The connection I've found is with people that have Lupus, I don't know about the other autoimmune diseases. Again, I had never read or heard of this connection until recently either. There are just too many people with Lupus who also have developed IBS for it to be a coincidence. I'm not saying all people with IBS should be tested for Lupus, but Drs. should ask Lupus patients about IBS symptoms. The point I was trying to make was that there are other possible causes for IBS, besides just your theory of food allergies.
You also said.....
-You are misrepresenting Schuster's research. Schuster's suggests that spastic contractions may cause abdominal pain in some IBS sufferers. Period! What causes spastic contractions?-
I am not misrepresenting Schuster!!! In the study that I read, researchers using a brain imaging technique called positron emission tomography (PET) found that brain activity differed between IBS and non-IBS subjects when their guts were stimulated. "Normally, the ACC(anterior cingulate cortex) lights up, and this happens to be the part of the brain where opioid transmitters are released," Dr Schuster explains, "So people without IBS have intrinsic narcotics and don't perceive GI pain the way people with IBS do." The information I read claims that "the origin of the disorder lies in the interplay among the nerves, hormones and different electrical activity that link the bowel and the brain". It goes on to say that "IBS patients have extra-sensitive pain sensors and that these unusually sensitive and reactive nerves appear to be what cuases the muscle contractions that underlie IBS". It claims that food only triggers the IBS symptoms, it is not the cause. This research is what has led some Drs. to prescribe antidepressants, which they believe might work on calming neurotransmitters and having an analgesic effect on them.
You said....
-I don't mean to generalize or to suggest guaranteed cures. But life is too short to be controlled and dominated by IBS, especially when most sufferers can do something about it. If I had listened the medical
establishment when I was diagnosed, I would still be suffering from IBS now. -
I don't have any great love for or faith in the medical profession either!!
I think your idea is a good one and may work for some people, but in my experience, different things work for different people. Don't rule out every thing else that might work better for other people....Keep your mind open. Often a combination of things work best. Each person should keep trying different things (including yours), till they find something that works for them! Harry's water soluable fiber isn't the cure either, but it sure helps make life easier for a lot of us. Ann
[This message has been edited by Ann S (edited 02-16-2001).]
Angie E
02-16-2001, 11:15 PM
Don't want to get in the middle of this, however, I do want to point out that a "gluten allergy" or Celiac Disease which you consider an allergy has direct links to several autoimmune disorders such as Graves Disease. I've done lots of reasearch on this. I found out late last year I have Celiac Disease. It has been directly linked to the Graves Disease I had 10 years ago.
So there is a link between allergies and autoimmune disorders...
Angie E
So there is a link between allergies and autoimmune disorders...
Angie E
Ann S
02-18-2001, 09:40 PM
Angie, You also have IBS, right? Or is that not a factor since you've eliminated the gluten cause of the Celiac's?
All this previous discussion aside, Angie, have you had any other tests for connective tissue disorders or other autoimmune diseases? Ann
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All this previous discussion aside, Angie, have you had any other tests for connective tissue disorders or other autoimmune diseases? Ann
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Angie E
02-18-2001, 11:54 PM
Hi Ann!
No I haven't been tested for any other autoimmune disorders - having had two diseases is plenty.. My diarrhea problem is pretty non-existent now that I'm gluten free. I've noticed that if I eat gluten, 3 days later I have a severe cold. At one point, I was literally TRYING to get a cold (kissing my sick two year old nephew, etc) because I didn't want to play in a softball tournament. I couldn't get sick to save my life! I stayed outside, my kids and husband were sick and I didn't even sneeze. Didn't even get the flu. But I discovered, if I eat any gluten whatsoever, I will get what's going around. I did play in the softball game and was voted most valuable player, so it all turned out well, and I made a few discoveries. I feel so much better not eating gluten, that I actually don't crave it much. Just occasionally. But I haven't had any other symptoms of other autoimmune disorders. Rhumatoid arthritis runs in my family, but I have no symptoms of that. I have an achy hip from childbirth, but if I walk it goes away. I was always sick when I had Graves...now I find out that if I had discovered the Celiac when I was 15, I probably woudn't have ended up with Graves Disease and Endometriosis! Go figure!
Have you been receiving treatment for your autoimmune disorder? How are you feeling?
No I haven't been tested for any other autoimmune disorders - having had two diseases is plenty.. My diarrhea problem is pretty non-existent now that I'm gluten free. I've noticed that if I eat gluten, 3 days later I have a severe cold. At one point, I was literally TRYING to get a cold (kissing my sick two year old nephew, etc) because I didn't want to play in a softball tournament. I couldn't get sick to save my life! I stayed outside, my kids and husband were sick and I didn't even sneeze. Didn't even get the flu. But I discovered, if I eat any gluten whatsoever, I will get what's going around. I did play in the softball game and was voted most valuable player, so it all turned out well, and I made a few discoveries. I feel so much better not eating gluten, that I actually don't crave it much. Just occasionally. But I haven't had any other symptoms of other autoimmune disorders. Rhumatoid arthritis runs in my family, but I have no symptoms of that. I have an achy hip from childbirth, but if I walk it goes away. I was always sick when I had Graves...now I find out that if I had discovered the Celiac when I was 15, I probably woudn't have ended up with Graves Disease and Endometriosis! Go figure!
Have you been receiving treatment for your autoimmune disorder? How are you feeling?
Angie E
02-19-2001, 10:15 AM
Oh, yeah, I didn't answer your question...I do have IBS, especially when I'm nervous or experiencing a new job, or new situations. But at least now, it's not chronic.