hairier yet..
02-27-2009, 03:24 PM
It's something to ponder, would you read and comment? I need somone to talk to.
At a young age I entered into the most tumultous one on one relationship of my life, that which became my marriage. Courtship and marriage equalled 17 years and produced two children. Acquired a "dreamhouse" during the waning years of the marriage, invested around $100,000 in it and lost almost all after the divorce, along with family unit of course. Total devastation.. Singleness enters picture -- years of singleness and lonliness. My job was cut and was forced to take another job, (same company) resulting in an overwhelming, total and radical lifestyle change. My father died several years ago then my mother died about a year later. Total devastation again.
The worst is to come. After all my years of living, latent (or dormant) homosexuality, never struggled with or wanted rears it's head and over a period of about a year comes almost to full life within my life. If anyone wonders, it's true that many have this condition, (latent homosexuality) and do not want, practice or desire it. It has happened, and once again, has had one of the most life altering effects upon me imaginable.
Now, mainly because of the homosexualtiy issue I go about most days in a trance like state. It has affected my job performance and every day quality of life. I'm no longer the person I used to be. It's truly amazing at the difference in my life. The negative effect upon me is a lot more than someone who accepted this situation in their life. I still do not want to be what has happened to me.
Sometimes I just don't know. All of the things that have happened over the past 25 years are devastating. It's common for a downturn of events to happen to anyone, I know.
I'm spiritual, a Christian. I'm captivated by my problems. Nothing seems to break for me, even in my spiritual life. I'm bound to be doing something wrong. Anyone care to comment?
Any responses welcome. Thanks.
-h
At a young age I entered into the most tumultous one on one relationship of my life, that which became my marriage. Courtship and marriage equalled 17 years and produced two children. Acquired a "dreamhouse" during the waning years of the marriage, invested around $100,000 in it and lost almost all after the divorce, along with family unit of course. Total devastation.. Singleness enters picture -- years of singleness and lonliness. My job was cut and was forced to take another job, (same company) resulting in an overwhelming, total and radical lifestyle change. My father died several years ago then my mother died about a year later. Total devastation again.
The worst is to come. After all my years of living, latent (or dormant) homosexuality, never struggled with or wanted rears it's head and over a period of about a year comes almost to full life within my life. If anyone wonders, it's true that many have this condition, (latent homosexuality) and do not want, practice or desire it. It has happened, and once again, has had one of the most life altering effects upon me imaginable.
Now, mainly because of the homosexualtiy issue I go about most days in a trance like state. It has affected my job performance and every day quality of life. I'm no longer the person I used to be. It's truly amazing at the difference in my life. The negative effect upon me is a lot more than someone who accepted this situation in their life. I still do not want to be what has happened to me.
Sometimes I just don't know. All of the things that have happened over the past 25 years are devastating. It's common for a downturn of events to happen to anyone, I know.
I'm spiritual, a Christian. I'm captivated by my problems. Nothing seems to break for me, even in my spiritual life. I'm bound to be doing something wrong. Anyone care to comment?
Any responses welcome. Thanks.
-h
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User#1337
02-28-2009, 12:47 AM
It's something to ponder, would you read and comment? I need somone to talk to.
At a young age I entered into the most tumultous one on one relationship of my life, that which became my marriage. Courtship and marriage equalled 17 years and produced two children. Acquired a "dreamhouse" during the waning years of the marriage, invested around $100,000 in it and lost almost all after the divorce, along with family unit of course. Total devastation.. Singleness enters picture -- years of singleness and lonliness. My job was cut and was forced to take another job, (same company) resulting in an overwhelming, total and radical lifestyle change. My father died several years ago then my mother died about a year later. Total devastation again.
The worst is to come. After all my years of living, latent (or dormant) homosexuality, never struggled with or wanted rears it's head and over a period of about a year comes almost to full life within my life. If anyone wonders, it's true that many have this condition, (latent homosexuality) and do not want, practice or desire it. It has happened, and once again, has had one of the most life altering effects upon me imaginable.
Now, mainly because of the homosexualtiy issue I go about most days in a trance like state. It has affected my job performance and every day quality of life. I'm no longer the person I used to be. It's truly amazing at the difference in my life. The negative effect upon me is a lot more than someone who accepted this situation in their life. I still do not want to be what has happened to me.
Sometimes I just don't know. All of the things that have happened over the past 25 years are devastating. It's common for a downturn of events to happen to anyone, I know.
I'm spiritual, a Christian. I'm captivated by my problems. Nothing seems to break for me, even in my spiritual life. I'm bound to be doing something wrong. Anyone care to comment?
Any responses welcome. Thanks.
-h
See a psychologist and get some meds, you're obviously depressed. Hate to say it, but God won't fix it for you. You have to do something for yourself this time, bud.
At a young age I entered into the most tumultous one on one relationship of my life, that which became my marriage. Courtship and marriage equalled 17 years and produced two children. Acquired a "dreamhouse" during the waning years of the marriage, invested around $100,000 in it and lost almost all after the divorce, along with family unit of course. Total devastation.. Singleness enters picture -- years of singleness and lonliness. My job was cut and was forced to take another job, (same company) resulting in an overwhelming, total and radical lifestyle change. My father died several years ago then my mother died about a year later. Total devastation again.
The worst is to come. After all my years of living, latent (or dormant) homosexuality, never struggled with or wanted rears it's head and over a period of about a year comes almost to full life within my life. If anyone wonders, it's true that many have this condition, (latent homosexuality) and do not want, practice or desire it. It has happened, and once again, has had one of the most life altering effects upon me imaginable.
Now, mainly because of the homosexualtiy issue I go about most days in a trance like state. It has affected my job performance and every day quality of life. I'm no longer the person I used to be. It's truly amazing at the difference in my life. The negative effect upon me is a lot more than someone who accepted this situation in their life. I still do not want to be what has happened to me.
Sometimes I just don't know. All of the things that have happened over the past 25 years are devastating. It's common for a downturn of events to happen to anyone, I know.
I'm spiritual, a Christian. I'm captivated by my problems. Nothing seems to break for me, even in my spiritual life. I'm bound to be doing something wrong. Anyone care to comment?
Any responses welcome. Thanks.
-h
See a psychologist and get some meds, you're obviously depressed. Hate to say it, but God won't fix it for you. You have to do something for yourself this time, bud.
negot
02-28-2009, 12:48 AM
First, I want to tell you that I am sorry about your divorce and the passing of your parents. I understand how devastating that must have been.
The rest of your post I am not sure that I understand. You say that the fact that you are homosexual has altered your life and job performance. Why? What is wrong with being homosexual? What exactly do you feel bad about?
Could you please write some more about your feelings on this? I honestly don't understand what the problem is. I promise to respond to your post again. I am just trying to understand what it is that you need support with.
The rest of your post I am not sure that I understand. You say that the fact that you are homosexual has altered your life and job performance. Why? What is wrong with being homosexual? What exactly do you feel bad about?
Could you please write some more about your feelings on this? I honestly don't understand what the problem is. I promise to respond to your post again. I am just trying to understand what it is that you need support with.
User#1337
02-28-2009, 01:45 AM
First, I want to tell you that I am sorry about your divorce and the passing of your parents. I understand how devastating that must have been.
The rest of your post I am not sure that I understand. You say that the fact that you are homosexual has altered your life and job performance. Why? What is wrong with being homosexual? What exactly do you feel bad about?
Could you please write some more about your feelings on this? I honestly don't understand what the problem is. I promise to respond to your post again. I am just trying to understand what it is that you need support with.
He's not homosexual is the problem, and that one experience has made it hard for him to live with himself. What I think happened is that in the midst of his already present depression, he had some kind of homosexual experience and it worsened his depression because he hates thinking about that experience because he doesn't want to be, or doesn't consider himself to be homosexual.
Once again, you can't pray your problems away, you need to see a psychologist.
The rest of your post I am not sure that I understand. You say that the fact that you are homosexual has altered your life and job performance. Why? What is wrong with being homosexual? What exactly do you feel bad about?
Could you please write some more about your feelings on this? I honestly don't understand what the problem is. I promise to respond to your post again. I am just trying to understand what it is that you need support with.
He's not homosexual is the problem, and that one experience has made it hard for him to live with himself. What I think happened is that in the midst of his already present depression, he had some kind of homosexual experience and it worsened his depression because he hates thinking about that experience because he doesn't want to be, or doesn't consider himself to be homosexual.
Once again, you can't pray your problems away, you need to see a psychologist.
negot
02-28-2009, 08:29 PM
I am sorry that some people are so hard on themselves. So what if one has a homosexual experience? It isn't the end of the world. Hairier, you say that you are a Christian, are you afraid that God is going to punish you for it? I seriously doubt that God cares whom we sleep with. Please give yourself a break. Post here so that others can give you some support.
hairier yet..
03-06-2009, 11:42 PM
Negot, thanks for your response. I feel that you are truly concerned and I appreciate that.
What this all boils down to is I am something I do not want to be, honestly. It is as simple as that. It doesn't matter what (it) is.. It's just like if you were sick with some kind of terminal illness, you wanted to be well but you could not be. It doesn't really matter why I dont want to be homosexual, I just don't.
I was married. I have two beautiful grown children. God made woman for man. All I ever wanted was to be right. It's simple. I just want to be right. Many people are homosexual I know, and live their lives happily.
I want to be heterosexual, that's all. I don't mean to knock anyone else.
I can't live comfortably with what has happened to me and what I have become. I hope this is easier for you to understand.
Like I said, it's like if you were ill or something, (figuratively speaking) and you didn't want to be.
Thanks for your response. I appreciate your concern.
-h
What this all boils down to is I am something I do not want to be, honestly. It is as simple as that. It doesn't matter what (it) is.. It's just like if you were sick with some kind of terminal illness, you wanted to be well but you could not be. It doesn't really matter why I dont want to be homosexual, I just don't.
I was married. I have two beautiful grown children. God made woman for man. All I ever wanted was to be right. It's simple. I just want to be right. Many people are homosexual I know, and live their lives happily.
I want to be heterosexual, that's all. I don't mean to knock anyone else.
I can't live comfortably with what has happened to me and what I have become. I hope this is easier for you to understand.
Like I said, it's like if you were ill or something, (figuratively speaking) and you didn't want to be.
Thanks for your response. I appreciate your concern.
-h
User#1337
03-07-2009, 03:38 AM
Negot, thanks for your response. I feel that you are truly concerned and I appreciate that.
What this all boils down to is I am something I do not want to be, honestly. It is as simple as that. It doesn't matter what (it) is.. It's just like if you were sick with some kind of terminal illness, you wanted to be well but you could not be. It doesn't really matter why I dont want to be homosexual, I just don't.
I was married. I have two beautiful grown children. God made woman for man. All I ever wanted was to be right. It's simple. I just want to be right. Many people are homosexual I know, and live their lives happily.
I want to be heterosexual, that's all. I don't mean to knock anyone else.
I can't live comfortably with what has happened to me and what I have become. I hope this is easier for you to understand.
Like I said, it's like if you were ill or something, (figuratively speaking) and you didn't want to be.
Thanks for your response. I appreciate your concern.
-h
You are wrong. Man made God make woman for man. Open your mind. Would God have made you homosexual if you weren't homosexual? If God made woman for man, he wouldn't have made homosexuals. If you choose to argue me that he didn't make them homosexual and that they chose that path themselves, then I will tell you that God didn't make man for woman, he made man and woman, and it was their choice to mate.
Man, you can't live like you are. If God does in fact exist, and he did in fact create this beautiful world, then he is in fact a caring and loving God, or else he wouldn't have made this world for us humans to live on. And if he is in fact so caring and loving, he will accept any human regardless of how they live their life if their intentions are good.
What this all boils down to is I am something I do not want to be, honestly. It is as simple as that. It doesn't matter what (it) is.. It's just like if you were sick with some kind of terminal illness, you wanted to be well but you could not be. It doesn't really matter why I dont want to be homosexual, I just don't.
I was married. I have two beautiful grown children. God made woman for man. All I ever wanted was to be right. It's simple. I just want to be right. Many people are homosexual I know, and live their lives happily.
I want to be heterosexual, that's all. I don't mean to knock anyone else.
I can't live comfortably with what has happened to me and what I have become. I hope this is easier for you to understand.
Like I said, it's like if you were ill or something, (figuratively speaking) and you didn't want to be.
Thanks for your response. I appreciate your concern.
-h
You are wrong. Man made God make woman for man. Open your mind. Would God have made you homosexual if you weren't homosexual? If God made woman for man, he wouldn't have made homosexuals. If you choose to argue me that he didn't make them homosexual and that they chose that path themselves, then I will tell you that God didn't make man for woman, he made man and woman, and it was their choice to mate.
Man, you can't live like you are. If God does in fact exist, and he did in fact create this beautiful world, then he is in fact a caring and loving God, or else he wouldn't have made this world for us humans to live on. And if he is in fact so caring and loving, he will accept any human regardless of how they live their life if their intentions are good.
hairier yet..
03-07-2009, 12:06 PM
1337 I respect your opinion, we are all entitled to one. I do not mean to knock you either, but it is easy to see that (obviously) you do not believe in God or His word. I do because I know God and have experienced Him personally. That is why I regard His word as true. I have been chastised before for going deep into religious issues on this board, so I will try not to go too deep this time.
I beg to differ with you bro, but I'm afraid you're wrong here -- God did make woman for man. God doesn't choose to make any individual homosexual. I believe there are a multitude of ways homosexuality can happen within anyone. It happens though just like any other sickness, deformity or disease and all of these things happen because we live in what God refers to as a fallen world. If you know, God created the world perfect, without sin, but man and woman chose to sin, bringing sin into the world and condemning all of their decendants. That is why so much wrong, pain or sickness is in the world. It's scripture. I believe it because I know God personally.
The kicker for anyone to understand in this or any other situation like this is this -- God does love and forgive, but He calls us out of what He refers to as sin, He doesn't say to just go on living however you please and He will accept whatever you do.
That's the long and short of it. I challenge you to find out for yourself that God's word is true. God does exist..
I beg to differ with you bro, but I'm afraid you're wrong here -- God did make woman for man. God doesn't choose to make any individual homosexual. I believe there are a multitude of ways homosexuality can happen within anyone. It happens though just like any other sickness, deformity or disease and all of these things happen because we live in what God refers to as a fallen world. If you know, God created the world perfect, without sin, but man and woman chose to sin, bringing sin into the world and condemning all of their decendants. That is why so much wrong, pain or sickness is in the world. It's scripture. I believe it because I know God personally.
The kicker for anyone to understand in this or any other situation like this is this -- God does love and forgive, but He calls us out of what He refers to as sin, He doesn't say to just go on living however you please and He will accept whatever you do.
That's the long and short of it. I challenge you to find out for yourself that God's word is true. God does exist..
User#1337
03-07-2009, 02:03 PM
1337 I respect your opinion, we are all entitled to one. I do not mean to knock you either, but it is easy to see that (obviously) you do not believe in God or His word. I do because I know God and have experienced Him personally. That is why I regard His word as true. I have been chastised before for going deep into religious issues on this board, so I will try not to go too deep this time.
I beg to differ with you bro, but I'm afraid you're wrong here -- God did make woman for man. God doesn't choose to make any individual homosexual. I believe there are a multitude of ways homosexuality can happen within anyone. It happens though just like any other sickness, deformity or disease and all of these things happen because we live in what God refers to as a fallen world. If you know, God created the world perfect, without sin, but man and woman chose to sin, bringing sin into the world and condemning all of their decendants. That is why so much wrong, pain or sickness is in the world. It's scripture. I believe it because I know God personally.
The kicker for anyone to understand in this or any other situation like this is this -- God does love and forgive, but He calls us out of what He refers to as sin, He doesn't say to just go on living however you please and He will accept whatever you do.
That's the long and short of it. I challenge you to find out for yourself that God's word is true. God does exist..
Whatever have you, but if God was perfect he wouldn't have made something as imperfect as humans. Therefore you must either agree that God is imperfect which defeats your religion and you are free to be gay, or must believe that God created humans to do what they want and that you are free to be gay, or you can choose to believe that he doesn't exist and that you are free to be gay. That or you can just choose to believe what you do which I am fine with.
But, listen to this, if religion is depressing you so doesn't that, then, defeat the purpose of religion? And if the purpose of religion is defeated, doesn't that then free you to be gay?
I also find it annoying that you refer to homosexuality as an illness, but you are entitled to your opinion.
I beg to differ with you bro, but I'm afraid you're wrong here -- God did make woman for man. God doesn't choose to make any individual homosexual. I believe there are a multitude of ways homosexuality can happen within anyone. It happens though just like any other sickness, deformity or disease and all of these things happen because we live in what God refers to as a fallen world. If you know, God created the world perfect, without sin, but man and woman chose to sin, bringing sin into the world and condemning all of their decendants. That is why so much wrong, pain or sickness is in the world. It's scripture. I believe it because I know God personally.
The kicker for anyone to understand in this or any other situation like this is this -- God does love and forgive, but He calls us out of what He refers to as sin, He doesn't say to just go on living however you please and He will accept whatever you do.
That's the long and short of it. I challenge you to find out for yourself that God's word is true. God does exist..
Whatever have you, but if God was perfect he wouldn't have made something as imperfect as humans. Therefore you must either agree that God is imperfect which defeats your religion and you are free to be gay, or must believe that God created humans to do what they want and that you are free to be gay, or you can choose to believe that he doesn't exist and that you are free to be gay. That or you can just choose to believe what you do which I am fine with.
But, listen to this, if religion is depressing you so doesn't that, then, defeat the purpose of religion? And if the purpose of religion is defeated, doesn't that then free you to be gay?
I also find it annoying that you refer to homosexuality as an illness, but you are entitled to your opinion.
hairier yet..
03-07-2009, 04:31 PM
Again it seems you know nothing of God's word. That is why you say the things you do. You see, God made the first humans perfect and gave them a free will and choice to choose right from wrong. Wrong was in the world because of Satan -- so there was a choice to be made. God doesn't force anyone to do what He says, He leaves that up to them. So there it is, humans became imperefct because of their own choosing. God was perfect when humans were created and still is.
It isn't religion that is depressing me, it's the fact that I know what has happened to me, (that which I allowed and chose) is wrong and God is letting me know it's wrong. That's the way God works.. When we do wrong he's faithful to let us know. It's called conviction of wrong doing.
I felt that you might misundertand the intent of my remark about illness, deformity, etc. I didn't mean that homosexuality was a illness. It's a condition. But if you don't believe it's wrong, there's not a point in arguing it.
What I have shared with you and anyone else who reads, is my situation and I can only do what I think is right.
Only one other thing, can you tell me (based on how a man and a woman's body is made), why you do not think woman was made for man? I will make it a bit easier and remind you that a man's penis fits perfectly into a woman's body. Sperm is deposited within her and she possesses the equipment to make a child. That's the plan. Two men can't do that, that wasn't the design.
If you will offer a legitimate answer concerning bodily design, (man and woman) please do.
Life's not all about just choosing what anyone wishes either. I could choose to go to someone's house and kill them, but just becasue I choose to do it doesn't mean it's right.
Thanks for responding.
-h
It isn't religion that is depressing me, it's the fact that I know what has happened to me, (that which I allowed and chose) is wrong and God is letting me know it's wrong. That's the way God works.. When we do wrong he's faithful to let us know. It's called conviction of wrong doing.
I felt that you might misundertand the intent of my remark about illness, deformity, etc. I didn't mean that homosexuality was a illness. It's a condition. But if you don't believe it's wrong, there's not a point in arguing it.
What I have shared with you and anyone else who reads, is my situation and I can only do what I think is right.
Only one other thing, can you tell me (based on how a man and a woman's body is made), why you do not think woman was made for man? I will make it a bit easier and remind you that a man's penis fits perfectly into a woman's body. Sperm is deposited within her and she possesses the equipment to make a child. That's the plan. Two men can't do that, that wasn't the design.
If you will offer a legitimate answer concerning bodily design, (man and woman) please do.
Life's not all about just choosing what anyone wishes either. I could choose to go to someone's house and kill them, but just becasue I choose to do it doesn't mean it's right.
Thanks for responding.
-h
User#1337
03-07-2009, 05:24 PM
Again it seems you know nothing of God's word. That is why you say the things you do. You see, God made the first humans perfect and gave them a free will and choice to choose right from wrong. Wrong was in the world because of Satan -- so there was a choice to be made. God doesn't force anyone to do what He says, He leaves that up to them. So there it is, humans became imperefct because of their own choosing. God was perfect when humans were created and still is.
It isn't religion that is depressing me, it's the fact that I know what has happened to me, (that which I allowed and chose) is wrong and God is letting me know it's wrong. That's the way God works.. When we do wrong he's faithful to let us know. It's called conviction of wrong doing.
I felt that you might misundertand the intent of my remark about illness, deformity, etc. I didn't mean that homosexuality was a illness. It's a condition. But if you don't believe it's wrong, there's not a point in arguing it.
What I have shared with you and anyone else who reads, is my situation and I can only do what I think is right.
Only one other thing, can you tell me (based on how a man and a woman's body is made), why you do not think woman was made for man? I will make it a bit easier and remind you that a man's penis fits perfectly into a woman's body. Sperm is deposited within her and she possesses the equipment to make a child. That's the plan. Two men can't do that, that wasn't the design.
If you will offer a legitimate answer concerning bodily design, (man and woman) please do.
Life's not all about just choosing what anyone wishes either. I could choose to go to someone's house and kill them, but just becasue I choose to do it doesn't mean it's right.
Thanks for responding.
-h
Look, me not abiding any holy book let's me see problems a lot clearer. You made your own problem, man, and if you believe that your depression is God's punishment to you, then there is absolutely nothing any of us can do to make you feel any better about yourself. It is your choice to believe that God is punishing you when, in reality, if you'd just drop the bull you'd realize that you could be living a happy life.
Yeah, God did make woman compatible with man. That's called nature. However, there are plenty of animals in nature that display homosexual activities, including humans. Now, are you telling me that animals, who lack NO moral compass are going to an animal-like hell because of their activities? All different types of birds, namely penguins display homosexual activities. To me, God created nature and we are a part of it. I'm not an atheist, as you seem to think I am. I believe, as St. Thomas Aquinas (look him up, he was one of the biggest Saints of Catholicism) did that God merely snapped his fingers and the universe came to be. He didn't dictate any 'right' or 'wrong'. These two things are ideas invented by man himself, that is why people have varied views. I also believe that God's 'word' is what man interpreted it to be. Has God ever actually shown himself in person to us and told us what he believes? No. You can read the Bible all you want, but I could just as easily write a similar book.
This is why I will contend that although God does exist, man, in a sense, created him. 'God' is the source of your depression, which God wouldn't want.
I won't argue that murder is wrong, but who are we to say? Maybe to the person who was committing thought it was right, or had a mental disorder, like Jeffrey Dahmer, that prevented him from seeing things as morally right or wrong. The man was mentally sick and didn't see what he was doing as 'wrong'. Albeit, the acts were heinous and unimaginable, but it still wasn't his fault.
God made the first humans perfect
Then, by definition, whatever we do is perfect. Something perfect can never become imperfect, therefore everything we do as humans, if we were actually created to be perfect, is perfect. According to the Bible, we are imperfect because Eve ate the apple. Since I do not know what religion you are, I don't know if you believe this or not, but from what you said, humans, who were created perfect, became imperfect through their actions which is, in fact, impossible by the definition of perfect. So right now you can, once again, choose to believe that humans were created perfect, like you said, and that everything they then do, by definition, is perfect and your desire to be homosexual is right, which is the best road to take in my opinion.
Or, you can keep following 'God's word' and live a miserable life.
Just think about that for a second. Does that REALLY make sense to you? Does it REALLY make sense that by following what you believe to be God's word that it does not do what it's supposed to, but instead makes you miserable?
That does not make sense in any way, shape, or form and I hope you see this.
It isn't religion that is depressing me, it's the fact that I know what has happened to me, (that which I allowed and chose) is wrong and God is letting me know it's wrong. That's the way God works.. When we do wrong he's faithful to let us know. It's called conviction of wrong doing.
I felt that you might misundertand the intent of my remark about illness, deformity, etc. I didn't mean that homosexuality was a illness. It's a condition. But if you don't believe it's wrong, there's not a point in arguing it.
What I have shared with you and anyone else who reads, is my situation and I can only do what I think is right.
Only one other thing, can you tell me (based on how a man and a woman's body is made), why you do not think woman was made for man? I will make it a bit easier and remind you that a man's penis fits perfectly into a woman's body. Sperm is deposited within her and she possesses the equipment to make a child. That's the plan. Two men can't do that, that wasn't the design.
If you will offer a legitimate answer concerning bodily design, (man and woman) please do.
Life's not all about just choosing what anyone wishes either. I could choose to go to someone's house and kill them, but just becasue I choose to do it doesn't mean it's right.
Thanks for responding.
-h
Look, me not abiding any holy book let's me see problems a lot clearer. You made your own problem, man, and if you believe that your depression is God's punishment to you, then there is absolutely nothing any of us can do to make you feel any better about yourself. It is your choice to believe that God is punishing you when, in reality, if you'd just drop the bull you'd realize that you could be living a happy life.
Yeah, God did make woman compatible with man. That's called nature. However, there are plenty of animals in nature that display homosexual activities, including humans. Now, are you telling me that animals, who lack NO moral compass are going to an animal-like hell because of their activities? All different types of birds, namely penguins display homosexual activities. To me, God created nature and we are a part of it. I'm not an atheist, as you seem to think I am. I believe, as St. Thomas Aquinas (look him up, he was one of the biggest Saints of Catholicism) did that God merely snapped his fingers and the universe came to be. He didn't dictate any 'right' or 'wrong'. These two things are ideas invented by man himself, that is why people have varied views. I also believe that God's 'word' is what man interpreted it to be. Has God ever actually shown himself in person to us and told us what he believes? No. You can read the Bible all you want, but I could just as easily write a similar book.
This is why I will contend that although God does exist, man, in a sense, created him. 'God' is the source of your depression, which God wouldn't want.
I won't argue that murder is wrong, but who are we to say? Maybe to the person who was committing thought it was right, or had a mental disorder, like Jeffrey Dahmer, that prevented him from seeing things as morally right or wrong. The man was mentally sick and didn't see what he was doing as 'wrong'. Albeit, the acts were heinous and unimaginable, but it still wasn't his fault.
God made the first humans perfect
Then, by definition, whatever we do is perfect. Something perfect can never become imperfect, therefore everything we do as humans, if we were actually created to be perfect, is perfect. According to the Bible, we are imperfect because Eve ate the apple. Since I do not know what religion you are, I don't know if you believe this or not, but from what you said, humans, who were created perfect, became imperfect through their actions which is, in fact, impossible by the definition of perfect. So right now you can, once again, choose to believe that humans were created perfect, like you said, and that everything they then do, by definition, is perfect and your desire to be homosexual is right, which is the best road to take in my opinion.
Or, you can keep following 'God's word' and live a miserable life.
Just think about that for a second. Does that REALLY make sense to you? Does it REALLY make sense that by following what you believe to be God's word that it does not do what it's supposed to, but instead makes you miserable?
That does not make sense in any way, shape, or form and I hope you see this.
hairier yet..
03-07-2009, 06:30 PM
"That man was mentally sick and didn't see what he was doing was wrong". Hate to say it bro, but the same thing applies to you. That's why Jesus said on the cross "Father forgive them for they know not what they do.."
By the way, God makes us uncomfortable with sin in order to try to make us turn back to what is right, with the emphasis here being on what is right. I know though that you just don't get it..
Hey, if you were wrong would you want to know it?
I already know your answer. You don't have to reply.
I don't wish to hear from you again, but I do hope you see the light one day my friend, seriously.
-h
By the way, God makes us uncomfortable with sin in order to try to make us turn back to what is right, with the emphasis here being on what is right. I know though that you just don't get it..
Hey, if you were wrong would you want to know it?
I already know your answer. You don't have to reply.
I don't wish to hear from you again, but I do hope you see the light one day my friend, seriously.
-h