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BipolarGal42
03-20-2009, 12:37 PM
Hello everyone, it's been awhile since I last posted to the healthboards but it's always been in other areas. Anyway.....

I started going thru what I believe now to be perimenopause about 5 yrs ago, but at the time I thought I was pregnant. I was about 37 & am now 42. I have Bipolar, ADHD, Borderline Personality Disorder, Gen. Anxiety Disorder, and Post Traumatic Stress. I am not on meds and haven't been since 2000. As hard as my husband and I try, we just can't afford the meds or a doctor, so I try to get thru the best I can day by day, which isn't easy by any means. And the way I see it, if ya don't have the money, ya just don't have the money.

I'm having trouble with mood swings, which were already bad enough but are worse, irritability, memory lapses, brain fog, crying at the drop of a hat over things that usually never made me cry, inability to stay asleep all night long, incontinence, nausea, burning sensation in the mouth, dizziness, bloating, and my period has went from once a month to twice a month and the flow isn't nearly as heavy as it used to be......well, I think that's enuff for the moment. That's already more than I can deal with. My poor hubby has already been thru hell with me with just my disorders, and now he has to deal with this. I actually feel sorrier for him than I do myself, but this is scaring me. I had been looking forward to not having my period every month anymore, but never realised I'd have to go thru hell to get there. *sigh*

Anyway, is there ANYthing I can do or take herbal-wise to help with the mood swings, sleeplessness, nausea, etc? Please help me.....not sure how much more either of us can handle. Thanks in advance...

Sue

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I C Hot
03-20-2009, 01:05 PM
Sue welcome to the boards, let me first say I am sorry to read you are dealing with so many issues, I know it must be very hard without med's for some if them. Though med's aren't always the answer. Your period will get to be less and less but for now will be unpredictable. I have found taking a fish, flax and borage softgel has helped me with my moodiness, panic attacks, and some with sleeping better. You can probably just take the fish supplement without the flax and borage and get the same results. Most of all, know that you are not alone and we are hear to listen and help you. When I came onto this board I thought I was going crazy I had so many issues, but things have calmed down and being here helped in that. Sorry I am not more help. Take care and check back soon,
Julie:)

BipolarGal42
03-20-2009, 01:49 PM
Julie, thank you for replying so quickly and for the warm welcome. You have been a tremendous help and all in one post. LOL I'm just glad to know I'm not alone in this. I have enough to deal with with the disorders I mentioned in my first post, but this takes my level of non-tolerance to a whole new & scarier level. I was actually wishing I could run away to the mountains away from people, admit myself into a mental hospital or be tossed off a bridge. And that was all just this past weekend when I kept snapping at people and blowing up like a crazy person.

I heard/read about Omega 3 Blend. I'm thinking of trying that along with One-A-Day multi-vitamins. Maybe even some calcium chews, which I've taken before. I can only hope they don't cost very much.

I C Hot
03-20-2009, 02:42 PM
Sue, You mentioned Calcium, do you take magnesium? Magnesium is also a very good thing to help you relax and sleep better. I know some days I have too felt like I should be admitted somewhere, hang in there is does improve. Maybe as you see yourself starting to blow up at someone try and step back and count to ten or something, just enough to let yourself calm down for a second. Just a thought. Take care, Julie:)

BipolarGal42
03-20-2009, 03:28 PM
Magnesium helps with migraines, right? I should add that to my list of herbals to look for. Ok, how's this list so far....

Omega 3 Blend
One-A-Day multi-vitamins
Calcium Chews
Magnesium
Suma

Anything else I may need?

From what I read of all these, they should cover my worst symptoms......I hope. Hubby won't like how much all these cost but if he wants a happier & healthier wife then he'll find a way to manage. As for counting to 10 when I feel a blow-up starting, been there, done that. I've counted to 100 and STILL couldn't stop the explosion. Don't forget, I'm dealing with Peri-menopause ON TOP of Bipolar, ADHD and all that.......that's like PMS x 100 LOL Really not a laughing matter, but I have to find some humor somewhere in this hell or I really would go insane and I'd be dragging hubby right along with me. Not a good scenario in my opinion.

kittywitty
03-20-2009, 03:37 PM
I take something called Estrotone that helps me. It has black cohosh, chaste berry, and a few other herbs in it. <removed>

I C Hot
03-20-2009, 04:08 PM
Sue, I would say that would be enough to start with, if you add to many things at the same time you will never know what is truly helping. <removed> hope you find some relief soon, Julie

BipolarGal42
03-20-2009, 04:40 PM
Thanks, kittywitty. One question tho.....What does it help with? Mood swings, sleeplessness, everything?

BipolarGal42
03-20-2009, 04:41 PM
I see your point, Julie. I'll try not to overdo it. Thanks. :)

bethsheba
03-20-2009, 04:51 PM
Although supplements have helped some, they do come with some risk. If you consider taking a supplement, it may be helpful to research some of the issues associated with that supplement before popping one in your mouth or using it on your skin.

The Federal Drug Administration has a wonderful site for researching supplements but this is another good federal site that deals specifically with supplements used during peri/menopause.

http://nccam.nih.gov/health/menopause/

Bethsheba

kittywitty
03-20-2009, 05:16 PM
Thanks, kittywitty. One question tho.....What does it help with? Mood swings, sleeplessness, everything?

It mostly helped me with mood issues. Prior to taking it, I was suicidal during my period and I was depressed (just blah) for the other three weeks out of the month. Like the other poster mentioned, though, you should research all of the herbs in it before you take it, especially if you already take other things as there might be an interaction.

BipolarGal42
03-20-2009, 05:42 PM
Thanks for the warning. I'll research more before I buy anything.

BipolarGal42
03-21-2009, 09:24 AM
Ok, I did my best to research what was best for me and I also talked to the pharmacist at the store. Here's what I ended up getting.....

One-A-Day Women's Active Mind & Body
Equate Estroblend
Viactiv Calcium chews

The pharmacist recommended the Estroblend when I told him what I needed help with and needed sth cheap. I felt this was the best course for me. Here's hoping I'm right. LOL

Thanks, everybody, for your advice and input. I really appreciate the help.

Sue

bethsheba
03-21-2009, 09:39 AM
Ok, I did my best to research what was best for me and I also talked to the pharmacist at the store. ....Sue

Great!! Talking to the pharmacist about these things is an excellent way to go!

Now that you have your supplements in hand, I would suggest you keep a daily diary of your mental, physical, and emotional experiences. This may help you evaluate your health and the impact your supplements have on your health...it is too easy to forget what's what when you don't write things down. And don't worry about not recording daily...sometimes a blank page says more than one filled with print.

Good luck and let us know how it goes!

Bethsheba

BipolarGal42
03-21-2009, 10:54 AM
Bethsheba, thanks for the suggestion. Luckily, a notebook or composition book isn't that costly. I'm so looking forward to having more energy and memory and not so many bad moods or crying spells. LOL Now maybe I can get out more and walk. Alot. I can't believe how run down I let myself get, but that's easy to do when you can't afford the right kinds of food or can't make yourself get out and exercise. Thanks again :)

bethsheba
03-21-2009, 12:00 PM
Bipolar,

You can write down notes on just about anything...although a notebook may be easier to keep track of, lol!

I am someone without health insurance also, but this is due in large part because I DID have health insurance, and I DID listen and comply with my doctor and specialists. As a result I paid a very high price for my health/life, and if I had done my homework first (checking out side effects and learning about high blood pressure), I would be healthier and still have the job of my dreams.

Guess what I am trying to say is that medical care and health insurance are no guarantees to good health. But we can be proactive as you are doing now.

Hope you're feeling better soon...but keep in mind that some of these things take time so be gentle with yourself.

Bethsheba

BipolarGal42
03-21-2009, 01:42 PM
Bethsheba, I've learned that if I write things down on anything, I tend to lose them. LOL So yeah, a notebook would be alot easier, since it'll be a little harder for me to misplace......I hope. As for being gentle with myself, etc., I know it's gonna be a long hard road for me trying to get back in shape. I have alot of physical health problems along with the *emotional* ones I've already mentioned. Just too many to name. So this is gonna take ALOT of patience, hard work and courage on my part. Courage because some of my health problems will require tests that scare the heck out of me and I'm not sure I have enough to make myself go through with them. But one problem at a time for now. If I try to take care of too many, I'll lose what little courage I do have and my focus. All I can say now is wish me luck.

I C Hot
03-21-2009, 02:01 PM
Sue, It is good to see that you are doing something, that is the first step in improving your health. I agree with bethsheba about keeping a journal, it can be very helpful to look back on as you improve and see how far you have come. Also remember supplements are not a overnight cure and they can take time so don't give up, stick with them. And you mentioned going for a walk, that is one of the best medicines, fresh air and some exercise doesn't cost anything but very beneficial. I to do not have health insurance like so many but it doesn't mean we can't take charge of our bodies and do the best we can. Good job, take care,
Juile:)

BipolarGal42
03-21-2009, 04:29 PM
Hi Julie, I agree with both you and bethsheba on being gentle with myself and giving everything time to start working for me. Walking will have to be one of those I take my time on. I have asthma and am worried it may have already gone to something else, such as emphesema or COPD. My mom & dad both had emphesema and my dad also had COPD, and now my brother has it. Yes, I am a smoker as were they, but am trying to see if I am strong enough emotionally to quit. So far, no luck, since I am living with alot of stress and alot of smokers, both of which will make it extremely difficult to quit, if not impossible. But like I said, one step at a time.....one health problem at a time.

Thanks again :)

TEdds83
03-21-2009, 11:06 PM
HI Bipolargal! I think it is great to keep a journal or notebook with you. I have done that since I was 18 and I am 44. I expecially need it now because I have fuzzy brain with this lovely perimenopause thing. ugh! You will find it helpful. I write down the food I eat, the prescriptions and supplements I take and all my reactions to them, my weight and physical activity that day. It's all helpful. You will make your way through this, just like the rest of us.
It's so hard. I literally take it a day at a time.

Here to talk! Take care.:angel:

BipolarGal42
03-22-2009, 10:43 AM
Hi Tedds83, I used to keep a journal for my moods, etc to help my therapist, but quit when the one I let her read caused her to drop me as a patient, it scared her so bad. Sad, eh? Since then, I've had trouble making myself keep one either due to my ADHD or my fear of someone finding & reading it and them thinking I'm frightening &/or dangerous.
But yesterday, after reading all the replies, I decided it would be a good idea to keep both a health journal AND a mood swing journal. But I never thought of writing down everything I ate. That is a great idea, so I will start including that in my health journal, as well as the physical activity when I feel well enough to do so.

One question tho.......most of the foods I eat are either junk, fattening or downright greasy. My hubby & I are living with friends and have to eat what they fix and they buy what they can afford. None of us can really afford fruits, veggies or anything that's actually healthy or won't cause problems with my stomach, etc. How do I handle that one? I want to eat healthier but it's a problem when we don't have the money, etc. I can bake or boil some of the foods but others can be trickier.

Thanks. :)

I C Hot
03-22-2009, 12:06 PM
Well it is just my opinion but, if you are not eating somewhat healthy you will never feel great. The greasy, fat, fried foods will make you will bloated, gassy, sluggish, and many more things. I know that doesn't help you as you are staying with people that are in control of the cooking but maybe you can add a salad and veggie's and try and eat more of that then the fatty foods. Just an idea.
Julie:)

BipolarGal42
03-22-2009, 12:42 PM
That would work if more salad fixings were brought into the home. But as I said, they can't afford the veggies, etc. They buy frozen veggies but not very many fresh veggies. I guess it doesn't help that the only veggies I can manage to make myself eat are peas and carrots. But I have to eat them covered in something else to cover the taste. Corn is my fave veggie. The only greens I will touch cooked are green beans. The rest make me gag. The best I can do on the fried foods is bake or boil my own portion......or go without, which wouldn't work either cuz then I get sick if I don't eat and end up turning to junk food. Or crackers, which is what I ate for about a good month due to my nausea.Talk about losing weight real fast. LOL I went from 160 lbs in July to 130 sth lbs within 6 months.

TEdds83
03-22-2009, 02:15 PM
I really feel for you Bipolargal, healthy food has ALOT to do with how you feel. It is so major. I am so guilty of not eating right and stopping by the drive up window and getting food to go. It's cheap and takes soooo good at the moment. But now at age 44 I pay a price for what I eat. For example, last night my hubby and I ordered a pizza from one of our favorite places. It was real greasy and tasty!! So good at the moment. But for hours later and I both he and I were in the bathroom with IBS. Now it cause me to get diarrhea and open up a fissure problem I have going on there. (sorry to be graphic) so was it worth it. Hmmmm not really. I also had acid reflux so I suffered with that too because of what I ate.

We are house poor. We bought a home we could not afford 3 years ago. We may lose it to foreclosure in the next few months. I am just telling you this because we are under stress. We can not always afford to buy healthy food. Healthy food cost way more money. I wish everyone in the world could afford to eat healthy. Life is not always fair.

Back in January my reflux was so bad I had to have a camera down my throat so the doc could see if there was damage. Luckily I was fine. Doing a 6 weeks period of time around then I tried and experiment of eating totally healthy. No coffee, no grease, no FF, no alcohol, no spicy sauses, I ate just lean meats, salads, water and gatorade. I lots 12 pounds, cleared up the reflux issues and started to feel fantastic. Then because I felt so good I found myself back in the Starbucks line for a Frappacino and stopping by McDonolds and Wendy's for burgers, and a few weeks went by. I gained 6 pounds back. I have reflux issues again and IBS. Now I even got a yeast infection and haven't had one of those in YEARS!! I feel horrible today. (Although I must say I started back at the gym a week ago and have worked out almost everyday!) I am vowing to try everything to be healthy again.

You see my 20 year old body let me live like that. And for years a person can get away with that. The wham, I am 44 and I have gained 30 pounds mostly in the mid section, tired all the time, developed hypothryroidism, and I don't even remember what the old me felt and looked like. I am so sad, and so mad!!

So how do we fix thre problem as we age and start going through changes?? I am trying to figure that out. But first I am going to start with FOOD and EXERCISE! The exercise is something you can do for free because you can walk or jog. I know you are real tight for cash like we are....so you need to find ways to get healthy food for a low price. Maybe you could suggest a couple of items at a time to the people you live with who are bring the food home. Maybe that want to be healthier too. It doesn't cost that much to get a head of lettuce and some vegggies. Perhaps some lean chicken to throw on the grill. It still is healthier and cheaper to eat at home vs eating out. Maybe if you cooked together and it was tasty they would change the way they want to eat. It will take a few weeks to really feel a total change, and believe me when you slip back into the grease and mocha's you will REALLY know the difference. Times are tough for alot of us. I just pray you can get some healthy food and feel better too. These are just suggestions to start with.

Just remember anything in cans is usually loaded with preservatives. I actually got sick after I had opened a can of tuna the other day. It smelled bad and I shouldn't have gone ahead and eaten it. If you can get frozen veggies in bags that would be better, as well as meats that are that way. I just don't like buying canned things but it's almost unavoidable.

Here anytime ya want to talk!:wave:

kittywitty
03-22-2009, 04:37 PM
I just wanted to add in something here. Has anyone here ever considered doing a cleanse? Our environment as well as the fast and convenience food that we eat is loaded with toxins that make us feel run down and sluggish. I actually did a two-week cleanse (pills) back in January and I felt great afterward. I even started to crave healthy food, which is totally unlike me. Unfortunately, though, my mood went south temporarily because I needed to up my dosage of progesterone cream and I turned to the crap food again because I got depressed. I had Taco Bell, and man did I feel bloated afterward. Funny thing, though, before the cleanse, I wasn't even aware that I was bloated after eating it. So that was a real eye opener for me. Now I really try to stay away from the fast food to avoid the bloated, sluggish feeling. Oddly, too, since the cleanse, I notice that if I try to eat fast food, I have a difficult time having a bowel movement. Sorry if TMI. Anyway, the cleanse I bought was called Whole Body Cleanse. I bought it at the health store for about $20. You have to make sure you drink at least 64 ozs. of water a day with it, though, or else you'll be constipated. Just my two cents.

TEdds83
03-22-2009, 05:39 PM
Cleansing is good but you have to be careful. When I did it a few years back it ripped up my bowels. Little did I know I was becoming hypothyroid. I had digestive issues going on so it wasn't the best idea then. Also I have IBS so I don't really recommend it if you have IBS. Those things need straightened out before doing it. I hear it is good when you are feeling ok to do it.

BipolarGal42
03-23-2009, 12:06 AM
I appreciate everyones thoughts and advice, but my needs will have to be put on hold, at least for a few days. My husband just lost a sister today so I need to concentrate on him and his family. I will still keep taking my vitamins, etc. but won't be able to get on here very much at least til after the funeral. Please keep us in your thoughts.

Sue

TEdds83
03-23-2009, 07:12 PM
Sue, I am so sorry for the loss of your sister in law. Thoughts and prayers are with you! Just take care of each other. We will talk to you soon. After you get through this hard time.
God Bless!:angel:

bethsheba
03-23-2009, 09:03 PM
My sincerest condolences...you and your husband are in my thoughts and in my prayers.

Bethsheba

I C Hot
03-23-2009, 10:23 PM
Sue, I am sorry for the loss of your sister in law. Take care of yourself during this stressful time, you are in my thoughts and prayers.
Julie:)

kittywitty
03-24-2009, 03:28 AM
I too am so sorry for your loss. May God bless you and your husband during this difficult time. :angel:

BipolarGal42
03-24-2009, 07:25 AM
Thank you, ladies. Your thoughts and prayers are very much appreciated. Not to get into the details too much, but we found out she died instantly from a massive heart attack. We're all holding up ok, under the circumstances.

On a happier note, I'm taking my vitamins, chews, etc faithfully and keeping my journal updated. I may be imagining this, but I already feel like it's working. My moods are staying level, for the most part. No sudden blow ups, no crying at the drop of a hat, no irritability, etc. I feel.......calm......even with the death of hubby's sister. I think the only drop I've had in moods was feeling at a loss as to help my hubby or his niece (sister's 14 yr old daughter) thru all this. But I think this is normal when trying to help someone cope with the death of a loved one.

All in all, I'm finally having good days, both physically and emotionally. Oh, before I forget, more than one has mentioned a cleansing. I've heard of that, but have NO idea what that entails or anything. Can someone explain, please? Thanks.

I C Hot
03-24-2009, 11:12 AM
Sue, I am glad yo hear that you are still writing in your journal and taking your vitamins, they do help. I know it is hard to help those loved ones when they are struggling with a death, so just be there for them. As for the cleanse: cleansing can help you beat constipation, bloating, headaches and indigestion, fatigue and skin problems while gaining more energy. There are many different cleanses though so you need to research what you would want to be cleansing for. It is basically cleaning out the inside of you. After years of bad eating habits and just poor water and air quality, we have lots of toxic buildup in our bodies. Right now for you though I would give the vitamins a chance to work for you and do your research on cleansing.
Julie:)

BipolarGal42
03-24-2009, 03:03 PM
Thanks for the info on the cleansing and the advice. I am going to give the vitamins a chance, since they do seem to be working. But I think the grief is starting to finally kick in for me, even tho she & I were not that close. So we'll see just how good the vitamins, etc works for me in the next few days.

Thanks again.





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