bluegreensky
05-08-2009, 07:58 AM
hey all, I'd like to get some opinions on this theory...anyone.?..anything goes...
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katlin09
05-08-2009, 09:06 PM
I've never heard of this method concerned with BP, can you give more info?
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dreams in neon
05-09-2009, 12:07 AM
"The DaVinci Method" is a book by Garret Loporto which claims to treat bipolar by focusing on one's creativity and inner strength while minimizing personal weakness. It teaches people with bipolar how to manage their strengths in order to become more productive individuals as well as how to become successful by using their "giftedness" in a positive way.
katlin09
05-09-2009, 12:41 AM
I think I'll ask my pdoc about it. In my currcnt state of mind I doubt it woulc help any.
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dreams in neon
05-09-2009, 12:47 AM
I just read a website about the book and it refers to a billionaire who has bipolar. It sounds like a "get rich quick" scheme to me. Instead of focusing on personal wealth, it focuses on overcoming bipolar as it relates to creating your own wealth. That isn't necessarily a bad thing, but being the cynic I am, I'm skeptical.
Llama
05-09-2009, 02:49 AM
Hmmm hearing this I am skeptical myself. Sounds too good to be true.
bluegreensky
05-09-2009, 07:04 AM
I'm kind of intrigued by this guy's observation/viewpoint/statement...here's what someone posted on another site...
'Ever since I have been diagnosed I started reading up a lot about the disorder and that path led me to a book called the Da Vinci Method. The author, Garret Lo Porto states that 10% of the world has a special temperament, namely the Da Vinci temperament. Other temperaments have a lot of repression of the subconscious mind (All the wild Ideas, images, presumptions, impulses etc. that the subconscious mind comes up with goes through a "filter" and the conscious mind of that person does not have to deal with it). That mind can focus on what is at hand and consciously decide how to feel and manage themselves. The Da Vinci temperament has very low self repression. All of the impulses and creativity that the subconscious mind generates comes to surface in the conscious mind and has to be dealt with.
The Da Vinci temperament is then divided into two possible outcomes. The Artist and the Neurotic. The artist is someone who developed the skill of channeling the subconscious spikes it gets into achievements. He can channel this energy outwards. The neurotic on the other hand, due to circumstances develops the habit of keeping his impulses to himself. Because the Da Vinci temperament is so scarce other people frown upon someone who acts on his impulses and does things differently, just because it is not normal human behavior. It is normal human behavior, but just in a minority. Normal people are just not comfortable with this. The neurotic suppresses himself in order to fit in. In order to fit in with the rest of human race, he does not fit into his own self anymore.... Bipolar Disorder can develop out of that situation....'
'Ever since I have been diagnosed I started reading up a lot about the disorder and that path led me to a book called the Da Vinci Method. The author, Garret Lo Porto states that 10% of the world has a special temperament, namely the Da Vinci temperament. Other temperaments have a lot of repression of the subconscious mind (All the wild Ideas, images, presumptions, impulses etc. that the subconscious mind comes up with goes through a "filter" and the conscious mind of that person does not have to deal with it). That mind can focus on what is at hand and consciously decide how to feel and manage themselves. The Da Vinci temperament has very low self repression. All of the impulses and creativity that the subconscious mind generates comes to surface in the conscious mind and has to be dealt with.
The Da Vinci temperament is then divided into two possible outcomes. The Artist and the Neurotic. The artist is someone who developed the skill of channeling the subconscious spikes it gets into achievements. He can channel this energy outwards. The neurotic on the other hand, due to circumstances develops the habit of keeping his impulses to himself. Because the Da Vinci temperament is so scarce other people frown upon someone who acts on his impulses and does things differently, just because it is not normal human behavior. It is normal human behavior, but just in a minority. Normal people are just not comfortable with this. The neurotic suppresses himself in order to fit in. In order to fit in with the rest of human race, he does not fit into his own self anymore.... Bipolar Disorder can develop out of that situation....'
dreams in neon
05-09-2009, 08:00 AM
I'm kind of intrigued by this guy's observation/viewpoint/statement...here's what someone posted on another site...
'Ever since I have been diagnosed I started reading up a lot about the disorder and that path led me to a book called the Da Vinci Method. The author, Garret Lo Porto states that 10% of the world has a special temperament, namely the Da Vinci temperament. Other temperaments have a lot of repression of the subconscious mind (All the wild Ideas, images, presumptions, impulses etc. that the subconscious mind comes up with goes through a "filter" and the conscious mind of that person does not have to deal with it). That mind can focus on what is at hand and consciously decide how to feel and manage themselves. The Da Vinci temperament has very low self repression. All of the impulses and creativity that the subconscious mind generates comes to surface in the conscious mind and has to be dealt with.
The Da Vinci temperament is then divided into two possible outcomes. The Artist and the Neurotic. The artist is someone who developed the skill of channeling the subconscious spikes it gets into achievements. He can channel this energy outwards. The neurotic on the other hand, due to circumstances develops the habit of keeping his impulses to himself. Because the Da Vinci temperament is so scarce other people frown upon someone who acts on his impulses and does things differently, just because it is not normal human behavior. It is normal human behavior, but just in a minority. Normal people are just not comfortable with this. The neurotic suppresses himself in order to fit in. In order to fit in with the rest of human race, he does not fit into his own self anymore.... Bipolar Disorder can develop out of that situation....'
If someone could enlighten me with an explanation as to what this really means, I would appreciate it because I have no clue how this relates to having BP.
'Ever since I have been diagnosed I started reading up a lot about the disorder and that path led me to a book called the Da Vinci Method. The author, Garret Lo Porto states that 10% of the world has a special temperament, namely the Da Vinci temperament. Other temperaments have a lot of repression of the subconscious mind (All the wild Ideas, images, presumptions, impulses etc. that the subconscious mind comes up with goes through a "filter" and the conscious mind of that person does not have to deal with it). That mind can focus on what is at hand and consciously decide how to feel and manage themselves. The Da Vinci temperament has very low self repression. All of the impulses and creativity that the subconscious mind generates comes to surface in the conscious mind and has to be dealt with.
The Da Vinci temperament is then divided into two possible outcomes. The Artist and the Neurotic. The artist is someone who developed the skill of channeling the subconscious spikes it gets into achievements. He can channel this energy outwards. The neurotic on the other hand, due to circumstances develops the habit of keeping his impulses to himself. Because the Da Vinci temperament is so scarce other people frown upon someone who acts on his impulses and does things differently, just because it is not normal human behavior. It is normal human behavior, but just in a minority. Normal people are just not comfortable with this. The neurotic suppresses himself in order to fit in. In order to fit in with the rest of human race, he does not fit into his own self anymore.... Bipolar Disorder can develop out of that situation....'
If someone could enlighten me with an explanation as to what this really means, I would appreciate it because I have no clue how this relates to having BP.
bluegreensky
05-09-2009, 08:26 AM
Dreams, I think there are some similarities between the 'davinci temperament' and bp sufferers when it comes to dealing with the conscious. We have to deal with a lot more than someone who does not have bipolar, our subconscious comes through a lot more. Do you agree?
dreams in neon
05-09-2009, 09:05 AM
Dreams, I think there are some similarities between the 'davinci temperament' and bp sufferers when it comes to dealing with the conscious. We have to deal with a lot more than someone who does not have bipolar, our subconscious comes through a lot more. Do you agree?
I agree that people with BP have alot more to deal with on an emotional level than someone who does not have BP, but I think this is due to a chemical imbalance, environmental factors and past/current trauma.
As for the subconscious, I have no idea how that relates to a biological disorder like BP.
Then again, I haven't read the book, so perhaps that's why none of this makes sense to me.
I agree that people with BP have alot more to deal with on an emotional level than someone who does not have BP, but I think this is due to a chemical imbalance, environmental factors and past/current trauma.
As for the subconscious, I have no idea how that relates to a biological disorder like BP.
Then again, I haven't read the book, so perhaps that's why none of this makes sense to me.
bluegreensky
05-09-2009, 09:45 AM
I agree that people with BP have alot more to deal with on an emotional level than someone who does not have BP, but I think this is due to a chemical imbalance, environmental factors and past/current trauma.
As for the subconscious, I have no idea how that relates to a biological disorder like BP.
Then again, I haven't read the book, so perhaps that's why none of this makes sense to me.
I obviously don't nearly have the knowledge that you have regarding lots of medical issues and I have great respect for you in that regard :)
I've read a lot of research that suggests that emotions come from the so-called subconscious mind..so you saying you agree that bp have to deal with more on emotional level and then that you have no idea how it relates to subconscious?
Anyway, it's not all that important, I was just curious as to other people's opinion of the davinci method which is the reason for this post..
As for the subconscious, I have no idea how that relates to a biological disorder like BP.
Then again, I haven't read the book, so perhaps that's why none of this makes sense to me.
I obviously don't nearly have the knowledge that you have regarding lots of medical issues and I have great respect for you in that regard :)
I've read a lot of research that suggests that emotions come from the so-called subconscious mind..so you saying you agree that bp have to deal with more on emotional level and then that you have no idea how it relates to subconscious?
Anyway, it's not all that important, I was just curious as to other people's opinion of the davinci method which is the reason for this post..
Elf_Ears
05-09-2009, 10:03 AM
Sounds very interesting to me! As a newly dx bpII, I'm looking for any silver lining. I'll see if I can get the book out of the library.
dreams in neon
05-09-2009, 10:32 AM
I've read a lot of research that suggests that emotions come from the so-called subconscious mind..so you saying you agree that bp have to deal with more on emotional level and then that you have no idea how it relates to subconscious?
When I said that people with BP have more to deal with emotionally than those who don't have BP, I was referring to external factors such as the environment, illness, situational events, triggers and stress.
When I said that people with BP have more to deal with emotionally than those who don't have BP, I was referring to external factors such as the environment, illness, situational events, triggers and stress.
bluegreensky
05-09-2009, 10:53 AM
When I said that people with BP have more to deal with emotionally than those who don't have BP, I was referring to external factors such as the environment, illness, situational events, triggers and stress.
I think emotions are emotions, regardless of what evokes them...and emotions derives from subconscious mind.
I hear what you are saying dreams and respect your opinion.
I think emotions are emotions, regardless of what evokes them...and emotions derives from subconscious mind.
I hear what you are saying dreams and respect your opinion.