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seaturtle
05-10-2009, 10:40 PM
Hello, every good person here,

Wanted to ask if anyone else gets physically ill after speeding around. I usually have weekdays filled with appointments and as many community activities as I can manage and am very active. Almost inevitably, Friday or Saturday I wake up sick, as if I had flu - headache, nausea, weak, very depressed. This only lasts one day, but it forces me to rest physically.

It's a mood swing from up to way down, but it plays itself out physically, too.

Anyone else?

Thanks, and I hope all is well with you all.

Seaturtle

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Llama
05-10-2009, 10:45 PM
Hi seaturtle. I dont' get phsyically sick after hypomania. Maybe some others can help you out more.

I do get fatigued and most of the time very depressed though after hypomania/mania.

Bunnylover
05-11-2009, 11:24 AM
I don't know that it's the same thing, but I tend to emerge exhausted, because I'll work 16 hour days when I'm manic and not eat much of anything. I'm having trouble this time, because my latest hypomanic phase seems to have plummeted me into depression, so I'm still having trouble eating much more than a light dinner.

Since it's only lasting one day in your case, it seems like you should just accept that, and take extra care of yourself that day--try to get some sleep, eat well if you can.

dreams in neon
05-11-2009, 12:31 PM
Hello, every good person here,

Wanted to ask if anyone else gets physically ill after speeding around. I usually have weekdays filled with appointments and as many community activities as I can manage and am very active. Almost inevitably, Friday or Saturday I wake up sick, as if I had flu - headache, nausea, weak, very depressed. This only lasts one day, but it forces me to rest physically.

It's a mood swing from up to way down, but it plays itself out physically, too.

Anyone else?

Thanks, and I hope all is well with you all.

Seaturtle

Seaturtle,

It's common for people to feel depressed and exhausted after a manic/hypomanic episode because of the stress it places on the body.

After I have a hypomanic or manic episode, I feel extremely tired, have bad headaches or migraines and feel flat/depressed/emotionless.

What you're experiencing is the body's way of recovering from the overstimulation caused by mania. The brain is also affected in this regard since we lose brain cells with every manic episode we have although creativity and intelligence aren't negatively affected as a result.

Llama
05-11-2009, 06:25 PM
Dreams I'm glad to hear you say that creativity and intelligence are not affected by losing brain cells because of manic or depressive episodes. My pdoc told me otherwise. He doesn't seem to know what he is talking about. But I don't know though because I do fear that I'm dumber after this last episode. Like I'll never get back to where I was intellectually originally. I used to be smarter, I swear.

dreams in neon
05-11-2009, 07:29 PM
Dreams I'm glad to hear you say that creativity and intelligence are not affected by losing brain cells because of manic or depressive episodes. My pdoc told me otherwise. He doesn't seem to know what he is talking about. But I don't know though because I do fear that I'm dumber after this last episode. Like I'll never get back to where I was intellectually originally. I used to be smarter, I swear.

There is a website on the Internet which lists famous writers, athletes, actors/actresses and business people who had/have bipolar. If you take a look at all of the names that are given, it's evident that creativity is not sacrificed just because we have bipolar.

Aside from that, research has not proven to what extent brain cells are damaged during manic episodes -- only that they are.

You're not alone in terms of feeling as if you're less intelligent.

When I feel level or depressed, I'm convinced that my IQ drops 50 points. When I'm manic, I feel as if it has increased by 50 points.

My short term memory isn't what it used to be either. I used to have a memory like a steel trap, but ever since I started taking meds for my bipolar 3 years ago, I can't remember the simplest things and need to write everything down (including "to do" lists) as a result.

I also have difficulty with phone numbers. I used to have the ability to repeat a series of 8 numbers backwards and forwards, but not anymore. Now I'm lucky if I can remember 4 numbers that are given to me.

Having said that, I do feel more creative because of my bipolar. I've loved music and writing for as long as I can remember. Ever since I was diagnosed with bipolar in 2006, my love for both has become even stronger. I don't know if that's because of the fact I have bipolar or if it's purely coincidental.

However, there is a correlation between creativity and high intelligence in those who have bipolar, so the link does exist.

windimeria2000
05-11-2009, 10:23 PM
Well, when I have to do grave yard shift for 12 hours I usually am really tired the next couple of days. Excerting yourself does that I guess to Bipolar people. Glad I am not the only one cause I feel like such a lazy butt when that happens.

seaturtle
05-12-2009, 12:42 AM
Thanks, everyone,

I asked my doctor about it, and he thinks it is not only the post-manic exhaustion, but also a fibro flare, as all my muscles hurt, too.

Llama - I have read, too, that each depression can affect our memory. Haven't asked pdoc about it, but from what I've read, there can be damage to the neurotransmitters that is permanent.

I'm hoping that Dreams is right, though.

Seaturtle

dreams in neon
05-12-2009, 01:01 AM
Thanks, everyone,

I asked my doctor about it, and he thinks it is not only the post-manic exhaustion, but also a fibro flare, as all my muscles hurt, too.

Llama - I have read, too, that each depression can affect our memory. Haven't asked pdoc about it, but from what I've read, there can be damage to the neurotransmitters that is permanent.

I'm hoping that Dreams is right, though.

Seaturtle

Seaturtle,

Everything I've read seems to point to what I posted earlier.

However, you may want to discuss this in more detail with your pdoc. Perhaps he can give you more of an explanation as to how all of this works.

This is what I plan to do when I see my pdoc on the 19th. I'm curious to know exactly how mania and depression affect us with each episode.





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