Jemi200
05-13-2009, 08:49 PM
I have high energy and don't need to sleep much, but I'm not doing anything stupid like going on shopping sprees and saying i'm the best in the world.
I kinda like it.
I kinda like it.
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Bunnylover
05-13-2009, 09:53 PM
How long have you been that way? I like it, to a point, and then I flip over into unproductive, grouchy, and panicky. The hard part for me is recognizing the mania in the early, "fun" stage, because if I can learn to do that, I would start treatment right away.
dreams in neon
05-13-2009, 11:06 PM
I have high energy and don't need to sleep much, but I'm not doing anything stupid like going on shopping sprees and saying i'm the best in the world.
I kinda like it.
I used to feel the same way, but not anymore. When I'm manic, I feel wonderful at the beginning of an episode, but it isn't long before I crash into extreme irritability and severe depression. To me, being manic just isn't worth it.
I would let your pdoc know about your current state. If left untreated, mania can turn into psychosis. Believe me, you don't want that to happen. I can tell you this from personal experience. Before I was diagnosed and treated for bipolar, I ended up having a severe manic episode where I lost orientation x3 (person, time, place) and heard up to 20 different voices which told me to harm myself. I was also extremely irritable and combative. I had to be hospitalized for a little over a month, 6 people had to literally drag me into the hospital and 4 people held my arms and legs in order to inject me with high doses of mood stabilizers and antipsychotics.
Mania is nothing to underestimate or fool around with. Please let your pdoc know what is happening.
I kinda like it.
I used to feel the same way, but not anymore. When I'm manic, I feel wonderful at the beginning of an episode, but it isn't long before I crash into extreme irritability and severe depression. To me, being manic just isn't worth it.
I would let your pdoc know about your current state. If left untreated, mania can turn into psychosis. Believe me, you don't want that to happen. I can tell you this from personal experience. Before I was diagnosed and treated for bipolar, I ended up having a severe manic episode where I lost orientation x3 (person, time, place) and heard up to 20 different voices which told me to harm myself. I was also extremely irritable and combative. I had to be hospitalized for a little over a month, 6 people had to literally drag me into the hospital and 4 people held my arms and legs in order to inject me with high doses of mood stabilizers and antipsychotics.
Mania is nothing to underestimate or fool around with. Please let your pdoc know what is happening.
dreams in neon
05-13-2009, 11:10 PM
How long have you been that way? I like it, to a point, and then I flip over into unproductive, grouchy, and panicky. The hard part for me is recognizing the mania in the early, "fun" stage, because if I can learn to do that, I would start treatment right away.
Bunnylover,
Some of the initial signs of mania include rapid speech, feeling extremely happy, heightened creativity/productivity/intelligence, difficulty concentrating, restlessness, feeling overconfident, irritability and making impulsive decisions.
Mania effects each of us differently, but those are the general symptoms to look for.
If you see a tdoc on a weekly or bi-weekly basis, you may want to ask them to clue you in on when you're manic. This is what mine does. He's very good at recognizing when I'm manic which is of great help to me since I can nip it in the bud before it becomes problematic.
Bunnylover,
Some of the initial signs of mania include rapid speech, feeling extremely happy, heightened creativity/productivity/intelligence, difficulty concentrating, restlessness, feeling overconfident, irritability and making impulsive decisions.
Mania effects each of us differently, but those are the general symptoms to look for.
If you see a tdoc on a weekly or bi-weekly basis, you may want to ask them to clue you in on when you're manic. This is what mine does. He's very good at recognizing when I'm manic which is of great help to me since I can nip it in the bud before it becomes problematic.
Llama
05-13-2009, 11:12 PM
Not me that's for sure. It's more like, who takes meds yet still gets depressive symptoms.
Jemi200
05-13-2009, 11:47 PM
Thank you for your replies, but I know exactly what I'm doing.
I've had severe cycles since I was 4 years old.
When I get like this, I don't change in any way other than what I said in first post. Well, I do get sharper in arguments but I thank the increased energy for that. I don't know how else to explain it, it's like the Lithium and Geodon are taking every negative except not being able to sleep as easily and giving me all the pluses of a manic episode. My thoughts aren't racing or anything. Hell, someone almost killed me a month ago and the next day I went to school and did the same as I did if nothing wrong happened.
I do tell my therapist and psychiatrist every single thing that happens to me. When I first told them about getting the high symptoms they were surprised but even more surprised when I was the same and not worse week after week of seeing them.
Maybe as I grow older I'll change, but right now I'm feeling how I felt when I was younger: dominant, responsive, careful, kind, willing to get justice, etc.
I'm surprised no one else feels like this.
I've had severe cycles since I was 4 years old.
When I get like this, I don't change in any way other than what I said in first post. Well, I do get sharper in arguments but I thank the increased energy for that. I don't know how else to explain it, it's like the Lithium and Geodon are taking every negative except not being able to sleep as easily and giving me all the pluses of a manic episode. My thoughts aren't racing or anything. Hell, someone almost killed me a month ago and the next day I went to school and did the same as I did if nothing wrong happened.
I do tell my therapist and psychiatrist every single thing that happens to me. When I first told them about getting the high symptoms they were surprised but even more surprised when I was the same and not worse week after week of seeing them.
Maybe as I grow older I'll change, but right now I'm feeling how I felt when I was younger: dominant, responsive, careful, kind, willing to get justice, etc.
I'm surprised no one else feels like this.
Jemi200
05-14-2009, 12:06 AM
And to the lady who posted twice, I've been dragged to the hospital before. I go to the mental hospital when I'm depressed, b/c of being suicidal and not being able to socialize the same with people. I was in the mental hospital for 15 days once and I wanted to stay longer to be 100% but my family took me out. I eventually got better but could've got better faster. My roommate was a 70-80 yr old vietnam war veteran, one of the nicest people I've ever met.
dreams in neon
05-14-2009, 12:32 AM
And to the lady who posted twice, I've been dragged to the hospital before. I go to the mental hospital when I'm depressed, b/c of being suicidal and not being able to socialize the same with people. I was in the mental hospital for 15 days once and I wanted to stay longer to be 100% but my family took me out. I eventually got better but could've got better faster. My roommate was a 70-80 yr old vietnam war veteran, one of the nicest people I've ever met.
No offense, but that experience should teach you the danger of mania. Mania can easily turn into depression which is why I posted the comments I did. Of course, the ultimate decision as to whether or not to treat your mania is up to you.
No offense, but that experience should teach you the danger of mania. Mania can easily turn into depression which is why I posted the comments I did. Of course, the ultimate decision as to whether or not to treat your mania is up to you.
dreams in neon
05-14-2009, 12:35 AM
Maybe as I grow older I'll change, but right now I'm feeling how I felt when I was younger: dominant, responsive, careful, kind, willing to get justice, etc.
I'm surprised no one else feels like this.
The reason why most people here do not feel the same way you do is because mania has the tendency to seriously impair one's judgment. Many people who are manic are in denial and believe that they are "in control" of their symptoms. Before they know it, things get out of hand and their mania ends up causing more problems than it would have if they treated it in the first place.
I'm surprised no one else feels like this.
The reason why most people here do not feel the same way you do is because mania has the tendency to seriously impair one's judgment. Many people who are manic are in denial and believe that they are "in control" of their symptoms. Before they know it, things get out of hand and their mania ends up causing more problems than it would have if they treated it in the first place.
Jemi200
05-14-2009, 12:50 AM
The reason why most people here do not feel the same way you do is because mania has the tendency to seriously impair one's judgment. Many people who are manic are in denial and believe that they are "in control" of their symptoms. Before they know it, things get out of hand and their mania ends up causing more problems than it would have if they treated it in the first place.
I know you're trying to help me but didn't I say this happened before?
It's also hard for other people to know when someone really is manic and isn't. If you hung out with me for the past 3 months you wouldn't say I'm manic at all. I naturally get like this like other bipolar people but when I'm not on my medications I do go to a depressed state.
I am on my meds however, willingly.
I know you're trying to help me but didn't I say this happened before?
It's also hard for other people to know when someone really is manic and isn't. If you hung out with me for the past 3 months you wouldn't say I'm manic at all. I naturally get like this like other bipolar people but when I'm not on my medications I do go to a depressed state.
I am on my meds however, willingly.
dreams in neon
05-14-2009, 12:57 AM
I know you're trying to help me but didn't I say this happened before?
It's also hard for other people to know when someone really is manic and isn't. If you hung out with me for the past 3 months you wouldn't say I'm manic at all. I naturally get like this like other bipolar people but when I'm not on my medications I do go to a depressed state.
I am on my meds however, willingly.
There's no need to get defensive. You asked for my opinion and I gave it to you.
As to whether or not it's difficult for others to recognize mania in their family members or friends, this is true, but not always. My sister knows when I'm manic because I speak rapidly, I can't be interrupted, I move from topic to topic, I have flight of ideas (meaning that the things I say don't make sense) and I become extremely irritable.
It's also hard for other people to know when someone really is manic and isn't. If you hung out with me for the past 3 months you wouldn't say I'm manic at all. I naturally get like this like other bipolar people but when I'm not on my medications I do go to a depressed state.
I am on my meds however, willingly.
There's no need to get defensive. You asked for my opinion and I gave it to you.
As to whether or not it's difficult for others to recognize mania in their family members or friends, this is true, but not always. My sister knows when I'm manic because I speak rapidly, I can't be interrupted, I move from topic to topic, I have flight of ideas (meaning that the things I say don't make sense) and I become extremely irritable.
bluegreensky
05-14-2009, 04:06 AM
The reason why most people here do not feel the same way you do is because mania has the tendency to seriously impair one's judgment. Many people who are manic are in denial and believe that they are "in control" of their symptoms. Before they know it, things get out of hand and their mania ends up causing more problems than it would have if they treated it in the first place.
I totally agree with dreams here. When I'm manic I tend to think I can solve everybody's problems and often claim that I know exactly what I'm doing and how to keep it under control...only to crash weeks later...I also think that I'm always right.
By the way, everybody seems to talk about recognizing signs of approaching mania and stopping it before it gets worse, how do you do that? What kind of changes do you make? Meds?
I totally agree with dreams here. When I'm manic I tend to think I can solve everybody's problems and often claim that I know exactly what I'm doing and how to keep it under control...only to crash weeks later...I also think that I'm always right.
By the way, everybody seems to talk about recognizing signs of approaching mania and stopping it before it gets worse, how do you do that? What kind of changes do you make? Meds?
dreams in neon
05-14-2009, 04:27 AM
I totally agree with dreams here. When I'm manic I tend to think I can solve everybody's problems and often claim that I know exactly what I'm doing and how to keep it under control...only to crash weeks later...I also think that I'm always right.
By the way, everybody seems to talk about recognizing signs of approaching mania and stopping it before it gets worse, how do you do that? What kind of changes do you make? Meds?
When I feel my moods start escalating into mania, I take a long walk, run on my treadmill, listen to relaxing music, write in my mood journal and see my pdoc so med changes can be made if necessary.
I was in a mixed state last week, so my pdoc increased my Clonazepam to 4x/day and that helped reduce my mania from the very first day I started taking it.
Some pdocs are more aggressive than others when it comes to med changes during or after a manic episode. Some even treat hypomania with an adjustment in meds especially if a person has BPII.
In my case, I need to address my mania ASAP because if I don't, it can easily turn into psychosis, delusions and extreme paranoia.
By the way, everybody seems to talk about recognizing signs of approaching mania and stopping it before it gets worse, how do you do that? What kind of changes do you make? Meds?
When I feel my moods start escalating into mania, I take a long walk, run on my treadmill, listen to relaxing music, write in my mood journal and see my pdoc so med changes can be made if necessary.
I was in a mixed state last week, so my pdoc increased my Clonazepam to 4x/day and that helped reduce my mania from the very first day I started taking it.
Some pdocs are more aggressive than others when it comes to med changes during or after a manic episode. Some even treat hypomania with an adjustment in meds especially if a person has BPII.
In my case, I need to address my mania ASAP because if I don't, it can easily turn into psychosis, delusions and extreme paranoia.
BrownCore
05-14-2009, 05:15 PM
Not me that's for sure. It's more like, who takes meds yet still gets depressive symptoms.
Hahah, yup.
Hahah, yup.
Jemi200
05-19-2009, 07:37 PM
Wow this is funny because for 3 months I've been feeling the same and just recently I can fall asleep whenever I want to with the same meds I've been taking.
I know how to notice the good side of my mania and inhibit it with medicine. That's what the medications are for. If getting a little off balance for a couple days with extra energy, I have no problem with that.
I know how to notice the good side of my mania and inhibit it with medicine. That's what the medications are for. If getting a little off balance for a couple days with extra energy, I have no problem with that.
windimeria2000
05-20-2009, 07:39 AM
I am like Llama...I still get depressive symptoms. What a drag....wish I got mania sometimes but always the same-o
dreams in neon
05-20-2009, 07:57 AM
I am like Llama...I still get depressive symptoms. What a drag....wish I got mania sometimes but always the same-o
I hear alot of people with BPII say the same thing about how they wish they experienced mania instead of depression and hypomania. This may sound strange, but I'm thankful that my bipolar lies more on the manic side than the depressive side. I used to have severe suicidal depression (with some periods of mania) from 1991-2004 and hated waking up every morning feeling like I wanted to end it all. Now at least I can take comfort knowing that I will experience some manic highs or hypomania which cuts down on the number of depressive episodes I have with the exception of the autumn/winter months.
I hear alot of people with BPII say the same thing about how they wish they experienced mania instead of depression and hypomania. This may sound strange, but I'm thankful that my bipolar lies more on the manic side than the depressive side. I used to have severe suicidal depression (with some periods of mania) from 1991-2004 and hated waking up every morning feeling like I wanted to end it all. Now at least I can take comfort knowing that I will experience some manic highs or hypomania which cuts down on the number of depressive episodes I have with the exception of the autumn/winter months.
katlin09
05-20-2009, 09:37 AM
The only time I seem to get a hypomanic state is when I have a major med change or start a new one. My pdoc and i sometimes joke about changing a med just so I'll have a hypomanic state because I stay depressed so much. Yes I'm BP II and even though I end up hating them when they get in the middle, I'd like to be a bit hypomanic sometimes.
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Elf_Ears
05-20-2009, 04:20 PM
I've only had one episode recently, in early April, with mild euphoria. A few weeks before that, under stress, I told some family members off. (not like me to act this way) It's like I had a bout of courage minus the drink ;)
Most of my hypomania is edgy, irritable energy. Sometimes I feel the way I've heard autism described - anxiety produced by much stimulus. It could be a normal amount of stimulus to many, but for me, it's overboard, and I just want to get away. I've noticed that I pick up people's emotions, esp my family's and that leads me to this PMS-ish state of cloudy-headed irritablity. It's like I'm Deanna Troy on Star Trek, the empath.
Haven't been depressed for 2 years, thanks to mood stabilizers. But this hypomania acts up. And I think I'd rather it didn't. I'm not happy with it. I'm envious of my calm, steady husband.
Most of my hypomania is edgy, irritable energy. Sometimes I feel the way I've heard autism described - anxiety produced by much stimulus. It could be a normal amount of stimulus to many, but for me, it's overboard, and I just want to get away. I've noticed that I pick up people's emotions, esp my family's and that leads me to this PMS-ish state of cloudy-headed irritablity. It's like I'm Deanna Troy on Star Trek, the empath.
Haven't been depressed for 2 years, thanks to mood stabilizers. But this hypomania acts up. And I think I'd rather it didn't. I'm not happy with it. I'm envious of my calm, steady husband.