jacal5
07-03-2009, 07:25 PM
There is a study from Ohio State University indicating that French Kissing can transmit the HPV virus. If the study is accurate, the only way to stay entirely safe from the deadly strains of HPV are sexual abstinence (even kissing) or the Gardasil shot which is only available to females 27 yrs. and under.
I already warned my 14 yr. old niece to stay away from close contact with boys in school, even kissing, until she tells her parents to take her to the doctor for the shot. She told me to stay away from men also because she does not want me to get cancer. I told her that's what I planned to do because there is no vaccine available for me because I am much older than her.
I asked a registered nurse what she thought about the spread of the HPV virus, she said it is devastating, and told me one of her male friends in his mid 30's was just diagnosed with cheek cancer in his mouth from the HPV virus.
I already warned my 14 yr. old niece to stay away from close contact with boys in school, even kissing, until she tells her parents to take her to the doctor for the shot. She told me to stay away from men also because she does not want me to get cancer. I told her that's what I planned to do because there is no vaccine available for me because I am much older than her.
I asked a registered nurse what she thought about the spread of the HPV virus, she said it is devastating, and told me one of her male friends in his mid 30's was just diagnosed with cheek cancer in his mouth from the HPV virus.
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jacal5
07-03-2009, 09:41 PM
Reference for article on French kissing ups risk of oral HPV infection:
Dr. Maura L. Gillson from Ohio State University, Columbus
The Source: The Journal of Infectious Diseases - May 1, 2009
Dr. Maura L. Gillson from Ohio State University, Columbus
The Source: The Journal of Infectious Diseases - May 1, 2009
Pickle Eyes
07-04-2009, 02:20 AM
Hi Jacal, I'm sure you know it is commonly believed that kissing does not transmit HPV. However, I've often suspected this, but didn't have a reference for any research. I'd like to read the study. Thanks for sharing this.
jacal5
07-04-2009, 08:14 AM
You are welcome. Yes, I do know it is commonly believed that HPV infection
isn't transmitted by kissing, that's why I was shocked to read about the study. I read an article that stated over 25% of single women haven't had sexual contact in ten years due to fear of STD's, they are being called the "new virgins."
Personally, I wouldn't take the health risk just to go on dates, it's not worth it to me, I'm financially independent and don't need a man for money, and I definitely don't need a man with no symptoms of HPV to give it to me. About five years ago I had a few dates with a retired CSI police officer, and when we were discussing sex, he got angry when I said if we got closer someday, he would need to use a condom (I was worried about HIV back then). He started throwing things in his kitchen sink out of anger and he told me I shouldn't be dating if I wasn't willing to have sex without a condom! I ran out of his house and haven't been on a date since, by choice. Until there is a HPV vaccine for older women and men, my dating days will continue to be over!
The really scary part of all this is no one that I speak to knows anything about HPV transmission, all the women and men I spoke to about it are under the assumption that a condom will protect them, if they even heard of HPV, but most did not, and a few were confusing it with HIV. I became knowledgeable about HPV because a female friend kept asking me questions about HPV testing at the gyn. office, and I knew nothing about it, so I researched. It turns out that my friend has two friends who got cervical cancer because their husbands were cheating (at least that's the reason she gave for the transmissions, her friends are both divorced now) and she wanted to be tested. She got tested a while back, and had an abnormal PAP, had the next test, (I forgot the name of the test, it starts with a c), but it was negative. Now her Pap's are normal.
In my opinion, there should be more public awareness of HPV, the Gardasil commercial is not enough, I don't think anyone really pays attention to the message of the severe health risk of HPV addressed in the commercial. There is no mention of males getting oral cancer from HPV in the media, and since my neighbor's male friend has oral cancer from HPV, it must be spreading like wildfire.
isn't transmitted by kissing, that's why I was shocked to read about the study. I read an article that stated over 25% of single women haven't had sexual contact in ten years due to fear of STD's, they are being called the "new virgins."
Personally, I wouldn't take the health risk just to go on dates, it's not worth it to me, I'm financially independent and don't need a man for money, and I definitely don't need a man with no symptoms of HPV to give it to me. About five years ago I had a few dates with a retired CSI police officer, and when we were discussing sex, he got angry when I said if we got closer someday, he would need to use a condom (I was worried about HIV back then). He started throwing things in his kitchen sink out of anger and he told me I shouldn't be dating if I wasn't willing to have sex without a condom! I ran out of his house and haven't been on a date since, by choice. Until there is a HPV vaccine for older women and men, my dating days will continue to be over!
The really scary part of all this is no one that I speak to knows anything about HPV transmission, all the women and men I spoke to about it are under the assumption that a condom will protect them, if they even heard of HPV, but most did not, and a few were confusing it with HIV. I became knowledgeable about HPV because a female friend kept asking me questions about HPV testing at the gyn. office, and I knew nothing about it, so I researched. It turns out that my friend has two friends who got cervical cancer because their husbands were cheating (at least that's the reason she gave for the transmissions, her friends are both divorced now) and she wanted to be tested. She got tested a while back, and had an abnormal PAP, had the next test, (I forgot the name of the test, it starts with a c), but it was negative. Now her Pap's are normal.
In my opinion, there should be more public awareness of HPV, the Gardasil commercial is not enough, I don't think anyone really pays attention to the message of the severe health risk of HPV addressed in the commercial. There is no mention of males getting oral cancer from HPV in the media, and since my neighbor's male friend has oral cancer from HPV, it must be spreading like wildfire.
jacal5
07-04-2009, 08:44 AM
I just thought of something that may have been addressed on this board in the past, but I haven't been on this board in a while. If a man transmitted HPV to a woman, and the woman gets treated for abnormal cells or whatever, doesn't the man keep infecting the woman with HPV with continued sexual contact? Does the body clear the male body of certain strains of HPV infection over time, like it does with a woman?
Thanks for any responses.
Thanks for any responses.
Pickle Eyes
07-11-2009, 04:54 PM
Hi Jacal, I'm sorry I'm just now replying. I've been on vacation for the past 10 days or so.
To answer your most recent question, once someone has a particular strain of HPV and is then treated for it, he/she still has that strain. It might continue to cause problems in the future; it might not. There is some research that says that the strain can go dormant and reactivate; others say no. There is one study (I'm not sure who it is, but a woman on the cervical cancer board here talks about it) that says when a woman is being treated for HPV that it is best to use a condom until the woman shows negative for HPV. This assumes the same partner in a monogamous relationship.
I don't know. I believe the virus can reactivate and I believe that once you have it that the condom can only offer some protection against newer strains.
To answer your most recent question, once someone has a particular strain of HPV and is then treated for it, he/she still has that strain. It might continue to cause problems in the future; it might not. There is some research that says that the strain can go dormant and reactivate; others say no. There is one study (I'm not sure who it is, but a woman on the cervical cancer board here talks about it) that says when a woman is being treated for HPV that it is best to use a condom until the woman shows negative for HPV. This assumes the same partner in a monogamous relationship.
I don't know. I believe the virus can reactivate and I believe that once you have it that the condom can only offer some protection against newer strains.