j isringhausen
07-09-2009, 11:57 PM
Hi. The longer I have been alive on this planet, the more I have come to loathe eating. Eating, to my mind, seems to create a horrible imbalance. I feel that when I eat, my mental state becomes largely decreased. I equate it with awakening the base animalism inside all of us. I always feel better when I eat less. First I cut out junk food, meats, and dairy. Later, I gradually stopped consuming grains, and made a commitment to eat only raw food. I eventually became a fruitarian, eating only raw organic fruit and no vegetables. I think to myself: just as people can become addicted to and have cravings for horribly destructive substances, perhaps I can condition myself to need no substance at all.
I have been fasting for almost a day now. It feels good and different. My mental state is wonderful. I feel like I have much improved concentration. I actually feel that I could do this the rest of my life, as I don't like eating in the slightest. Even though I get the occasional hunger pain, I brush it off or simply exercise a bit, and its gone. I have physical energy; I can run and climb trees with grace. But its almost as if my strength is NOT COMING FROM MY MUSCLES, so much as from some mysterious and beautiful source. I feel so alive. I felt as if for many years now, it was always coming to this. I realized that I didn't really like food, and that I was eating merely out of habit, emotional distress, and perhaps ignorance.
My only concern is that I could die. I'm not particularly scared of that; I'm just concerned that I won't know when I've gone to far. I ignore any hunger pains that occur. Do you think I am making a moderately safe decision? Are there any signs I should be aware of in particular? My heart rate seems to be a bit elevated now, but I still feel great.
AGE: 19
WEIGHT: 115 lbs
HEIGHT: 5-11 to 6 ft
I have been fasting for almost a day now. It feels good and different. My mental state is wonderful. I feel like I have much improved concentration. I actually feel that I could do this the rest of my life, as I don't like eating in the slightest. Even though I get the occasional hunger pain, I brush it off or simply exercise a bit, and its gone. I have physical energy; I can run and climb trees with grace. But its almost as if my strength is NOT COMING FROM MY MUSCLES, so much as from some mysterious and beautiful source. I feel so alive. I felt as if for many years now, it was always coming to this. I realized that I didn't really like food, and that I was eating merely out of habit, emotional distress, and perhaps ignorance.
My only concern is that I could die. I'm not particularly scared of that; I'm just concerned that I won't know when I've gone to far. I ignore any hunger pains that occur. Do you think I am making a moderately safe decision? Are there any signs I should be aware of in particular? My heart rate seems to be a bit elevated now, but I still feel great.
AGE: 19
WEIGHT: 115 lbs
HEIGHT: 5-11 to 6 ft
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Benit
07-10-2009, 02:10 AM
Well, you can look at it this way: I've eaten pretty well all my life, never done any fasting, and yet at 27 y/o now, find myself with what looks like vitamin deficiency and the associated symptoms.
Amazingly, you can still eat well and get a form of malnutrition. Imagine what would happen if you ate nothing at all...
Amazingly, you can still eat well and get a form of malnutrition. Imagine what would happen if you ate nothing at all...
janewhite1
07-10-2009, 03:40 AM
6 feet tall and 115 pounds? This is not good. If you were 150 pounds, you'd probably still be quite thin. You need to increase your calories again, slowly so you don't get sick, and you possibly need immediate medical treatment.
What you are experiencing is the body's way of coping with severe famine. Someone who is freezing to death will start to feel warm as the body shuts down. You are starving, and so your body responds by providing all the energy it can squeeze out, so you can hunt down some food.
Please do hunt some food. And get some help for your difficulties with eating.
What you are experiencing is the body's way of coping with severe famine. Someone who is freezing to death will start to feel warm as the body shuts down. You are starving, and so your body responds by providing all the energy it can squeeze out, so you can hunt down some food.
Please do hunt some food. And get some help for your difficulties with eating.
j isringhausen
07-10-2009, 03:47 AM
Read post above.
j isringhausen
07-10-2009, 03:51 AM
My family keeps touting the "eat a bit of everything to get your vitamins" philosophy, which I disagree with. I'm not overly concerned with that, because the food that I do eat is organic and natural, so its probably richer in vitamins and lower in toxicity. I think there really could be something to this theoretical breatharianism though. As I said before, my 24 hour fast was absolutely amazing. Everytime I felt hungry, I simply ignored it or exercised. My mental abilities increased and I felt almost euphoric, but not out of it. On the contrary, I felt extremely aware of beautiful things. I was amazed at my physical strength. At one point, I thought "where is it coming from?". After a while, however, my pulse became quick. I felt that I could have kept going, perhaps until something bad might happen, which is why I stopped. I didn't feel hungry in the slightest; I was past that. But, being my first fasting, I figured I should use caution. Once I ate a few orgainc bananas, all of my "spiritual energy" disappeared. My heart rate returned to normal, but the world felt empty and painful once more. I no longer had that wonderful feeling of liberation. I now only felt weariness in my limbs. Everything seemed to take a great deal of effort.
My desire is to reach a state where I consume as little as I possibly can, and nothing else. I believe I have the potential to do this with the right guidance from some sort of teacher or whatever. My family thinks I am aneorexic. To me, that means I don't participate in the mindless indulgenes they do everyday, or I at least do them to a lesser degree.
My desire is to reach a state where I consume as little as I possibly can, and nothing else. I believe I have the potential to do this with the right guidance from some sort of teacher or whatever. My family thinks I am aneorexic. To me, that means I don't participate in the mindless indulgenes they do everyday, or I at least do them to a lesser degree.
pinkpixies
07-10-2009, 04:52 AM
Well, given you're already severally under weight...I doubt you would be able to survive more than a couple weeks without food. Probably not even that...you'll most likely be hospitalized way before that from complications. They can and will keep you against your will until you're stable and eating normally. When I was hospitalized for my eating disorder, there were some girls in there for months...and generally even after they left, they didn't go home but rather a residental setting. So...stop messing around and eat normally...or have all your rights taken away for a very long time.
j isringhausen
07-11-2009, 03:44 AM
I feel there could be a better form of nutrition out there, something that would take alot of discipline and dedication to acheive. I imagine that a human being would have to have to be practically unreal to live an entire lifetime without any form of sustenance. I doubt I'll ever acheive that. Or who knows, maybe I will. Everyone tells me I am very unusual: schizoid, asexual, "schizophrenic" (I don't hallucinate :confused:). I know how I feel when I eat. It feels horrible. It destroys my mind. I feel that there could be something far greater than conventional food waiting to be discovered for individuals who have the dedication/will/etc. My first 24 hour fasting experience tells me something. I don't know if I am ready though.
Imagine though, being able to live completely on light/prana/air/etc. Imagine the possibilities. For an individual such as myself who absolutely loathes eating food, its horrible having to feel like I need the drug. Yes, I say drug. I used to say that cooked food is a drug. I am now starting to feel that any food is a drug. I guess the only difference is that some drugs are far more dangerous than others. Any substance we deliberately put into our bodies is to my mind a drug, and I hope that one day I can be free of drugs.
Maybe water is an exception. Everything I post is merely an idea, so.
Imagine though, being able to live completely on light/prana/air/etc. Imagine the possibilities. For an individual such as myself who absolutely loathes eating food, its horrible having to feel like I need the drug. Yes, I say drug. I used to say that cooked food is a drug. I am now starting to feel that any food is a drug. I guess the only difference is that some drugs are far more dangerous than others. Any substance we deliberately put into our bodies is to my mind a drug, and I hope that one day I can be free of drugs.
Maybe water is an exception. Everything I post is merely an idea, so.
caringsister54
07-11-2009, 03:46 AM
The reason why you feel so good is that your mind is failing. Your heart is beating faster because when you deny your body food it starts to live off of the nutrients stored in your muscles -- and one of the muscles is the heart
You must eat. You have a mental condition and need help. You can and will die.
When you look in a mirror you have a false sense of yourself. I truly hope some adult intercedes and gets you to a hospital soon. Your mind is fooling you and you are playing a very dangerous game.
You must eat. You have a mental condition and need help. You can and will die.
When you look in a mirror you have a false sense of yourself. I truly hope some adult intercedes and gets you to a hospital soon. Your mind is fooling you and you are playing a very dangerous game.
j isringhausen
07-11-2009, 03:55 AM
6 feet tall and 115 pounds? This is not good. If you were 150 pounds, you'd probably still be quite thin. You need to increase your calories again, slowly so you don't get sick, and you possibly need immediate medical treatment.
What you are experiencing is the body's way of coping with severe famine. Someone who is freezing to death will start to feel warm as the body shuts down. You are starving, and so your body responds by providing all the energy it can squeeze out, so you can hunt down some food.
Please do hunt some food. And get some help for your difficulties with eating.
Interesting.... So you are saying that the feeling of euphoria I experienced when fasting was merely the result of my body going into "starvation mode"? While I was fasting, everytime I got hungry, I would simply exercise. The more I exercised and supressed my hunger, the more alive I felt. I had something else, to my mind, something almost unreal. I was able to exercise without any kind of physical resistance. I'd never felt so alive.
I'm not saying you're wrong. Maybe I'm wrong. I know that people die of starvation, and that people have also died attempting to become a "breatharian". But, I like to hold out hope that there is a better way. Look at plants. They live off of what, sunlight and water, right? I know that humans are not plants, but plants are living things too, so, who knows really.
I don't want to die, but I realize that the more I eat, the more agony I feel, and I'm not only speaking of physical agony. Its actually something that I don't feel I can adequately describe.
What you are experiencing is the body's way of coping with severe famine. Someone who is freezing to death will start to feel warm as the body shuts down. You are starving, and so your body responds by providing all the energy it can squeeze out, so you can hunt down some food.
Please do hunt some food. And get some help for your difficulties with eating.
Interesting.... So you are saying that the feeling of euphoria I experienced when fasting was merely the result of my body going into "starvation mode"? While I was fasting, everytime I got hungry, I would simply exercise. The more I exercised and supressed my hunger, the more alive I felt. I had something else, to my mind, something almost unreal. I was able to exercise without any kind of physical resistance. I'd never felt so alive.
I'm not saying you're wrong. Maybe I'm wrong. I know that people die of starvation, and that people have also died attempting to become a "breatharian". But, I like to hold out hope that there is a better way. Look at plants. They live off of what, sunlight and water, right? I know that humans are not plants, but plants are living things too, so, who knows really.
I don't want to die, but I realize that the more I eat, the more agony I feel, and I'm not only speaking of physical agony. Its actually something that I don't feel I can adequately describe.
Choice
07-11-2009, 04:36 AM
Plants need more than sunlight and water. They also require nitrogen, potassium, potash, phosphorus, iron, zinc, calcium, sulfer, boron, copper, magnesium...
All forms of life must receive nutrients in order to survive.
We have different shaped teeth for different textures of food. We have 10,000 taste buds to make food pleasurable. The main function of the esophagus is to propel food into the stomach. We have a pretty amazing digestive system, if you think about it. Why? Because digestion is the process by which food and drink are broken down into their smallest parts so the body can use them to build and nourish cells and to provide energy.
Schizophrenia or another delusional disorder may need to be seriously considered before it's too late.
All forms of life must receive nutrients in order to survive.
We have different shaped teeth for different textures of food. We have 10,000 taste buds to make food pleasurable. The main function of the esophagus is to propel food into the stomach. We have a pretty amazing digestive system, if you think about it. Why? Because digestion is the process by which food and drink are broken down into their smallest parts so the body can use them to build and nourish cells and to provide energy.
Schizophrenia or another delusional disorder may need to be seriously considered before it's too late.