happygirl440
08-20-2009, 09:22 AM
Good Morning,
I have my hearing in less than a month.
I have been offered a part time job working about 15 hours a week.
They offered to accommodate all of my needs. It pays minimum wage.
Not sure if I should take it or wait for my hearing to be over with.
Cindy
I have my hearing in less than a month.
I have been offered a part time job working about 15 hours a week.
They offered to accommodate all of my needs. It pays minimum wage.
Not sure if I should take it or wait for my hearing to be over with.
Cindy
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Executor
08-20-2009, 10:18 AM
You're this close, I would wait until the hearing is over with. You can always work under the "ticket to work program" while on SSD. At 15 hours per week making minimum wage, I doubt seriously that you'd come anywhere close to the amt required to lose your SSD. Thus, you could potentially have both.
Best of luck at your hearing.
Regards,
Ex
Best of luck at your hearing.
Regards,
Ex
Jem58
08-20-2009, 04:00 PM
I wouldn't take any chances, and I'd wait it out myself. Good luck at your hearing. I had mine three weeks ago. I stressed for months about it, and it was over fast and wasn't bad at all.
gayle4102
08-20-2009, 06:37 PM
I wouldn't take any chances either. The outcome of your hearing is too important. My hearing was two months ago, and there is a good chance you will be asked very detailed questions about your job history. If you are working part time, the judge just might decide if you can work part time, you should be able to work full time too.
armyofone0508
08-21-2009, 01:33 PM
It looks better if you're attempting to work. I was working 15 hours a week at my job when they awarded me. and I was awarded in under 3 months. so...just saying...
Executor
08-21-2009, 10:56 PM
It looks better if you're attempting to work.
With all due respect, I strongly disagree. I have to agree with Gayle when she said that if you're working part time, the judge just may think you can work full time.
You're way to close now...It's not worth the risk, IMHO. There are plenty of minimum wage jobs out there if they won't hire you in a couple of weeks. Hopefully, you'll be awarded benefits.
Best of luck at your hearing.
Regards,
Ex
With all due respect, I strongly disagree. I have to agree with Gayle when she said that if you're working part time, the judge just may think you can work full time.
You're way to close now...It's not worth the risk, IMHO. There are plenty of minimum wage jobs out there if they won't hire you in a couple of weeks. Hopefully, you'll be awarded benefits.
Best of luck at your hearing.
Regards,
Ex
happygirl440
08-21-2009, 11:20 PM
EX i did read where you can make up to 700 a month without losing your ssd.
i just dont know what i should do...in my denial they did say i can not do the work i did before and of course this job would be in that field.
i know the employer and they really would accomidiate me
i think i would be less depressed if i did get out a few hours a week
thanks for everyones replys
cindy
i just dont know what i should do...in my denial they did say i can not do the work i did before and of course this job would be in that field.
i know the employer and they really would accomidiate me
i think i would be less depressed if i did get out a few hours a week
thanks for everyones replys
cindy
Executor
08-22-2009, 01:31 AM
Just remember that when you go to your hearing, the judge is going to ask you if you are working and you'll have to say "yes" because you're under oath. Then, he'll ask "how long" and you'll have to answer that you just started.
This will be incredibly counterproductive to your claim that you are disabled. The hearing will be attended by a vocational expert and once they hear that you have been give accommodations to work, they will correctly assume that this could continue and possibly be either full time, or almost full time.
Granted, you can make up to a certain amt and not lose your SSD...But, that's under the ticket to work program where they try to wean you off of SSD. Doesn't mean you have to come off of SSD, it just means that the program is offered for that reason. It's there to provide those on disability an "incentive" to work, and possibly turn something into full time or near full time. Conversely, working while filing a claim, and especially starting a new job just before the hearing won't go over very well.
You have come this far and the hearing is just around the corner. There is no guarantee that you will be awarded benefits. However, over 70% of the applicants are awarded SSD at this stage. If it were me, I wouldn't do anything to hurt my chances.
Best of luck to you at your hearing.
Regards,
Ex
This will be incredibly counterproductive to your claim that you are disabled. The hearing will be attended by a vocational expert and once they hear that you have been give accommodations to work, they will correctly assume that this could continue and possibly be either full time, or almost full time.
Granted, you can make up to a certain amt and not lose your SSD...But, that's under the ticket to work program where they try to wean you off of SSD. Doesn't mean you have to come off of SSD, it just means that the program is offered for that reason. It's there to provide those on disability an "incentive" to work, and possibly turn something into full time or near full time. Conversely, working while filing a claim, and especially starting a new job just before the hearing won't go over very well.
You have come this far and the hearing is just around the corner. There is no guarantee that you will be awarded benefits. However, over 70% of the applicants are awarded SSD at this stage. If it were me, I wouldn't do anything to hurt my chances.
Best of luck to you at your hearing.
Regards,
Ex
Jem58
08-22-2009, 04:56 AM
There is no guarantee that you will be awarded benefits. However, over 70% of the applicants are awarded SSD at this stage.
Is it 70%? I hear everything from a little over 50% to 60%. I like your numbers better. :)
Is it 70%? I hear everything from a little over 50% to 60%. I like your numbers better. :)
Executor
08-22-2009, 01:40 PM
Is it 70%? I hear everything from a little over 50% to 60%. I like your numbers better. :)
Yes, it is. Let me know if you need any further info.
Regards,
Ex
Yes, it is. Let me know if you need any further info.
Regards,
Ex
happygirl440
08-22-2009, 02:48 PM
Thanks EX
I will wait till my hearing before doing anything
If the company wants me that bad they can wiat a few more weeks then as well. They know I am waiting on my hearing.
Cindy
I will wait till my hearing before doing anything
If the company wants me that bad they can wiat a few more weeks then as well. They know I am waiting on my hearing.
Cindy
Executor
08-23-2009, 12:47 AM
Thanks EX
I will wait till my hearing before doing anything
If the company wants me that bad they can wiat a few more weeks then as well. They know I am waiting on my hearing.
That's a great attitude Cindy.:) I really hope things work out for you, and maybe it will be a win / win all the way around.
Best of luck to you!
Ex
I will wait till my hearing before doing anything
If the company wants me that bad they can wiat a few more weeks then as well. They know I am waiting on my hearing.
That's a great attitude Cindy.:) I really hope things work out for you, and maybe it will be a win / win all the way around.
Best of luck to you!
Ex
mscat40
08-23-2009, 04:48 AM
I would not accept the job either. It is not worth the risk of a min. wage p/t , job and the possibilty of losing your Social Security Disability benifits because of it.
Have you been looking for work? How have you been feeling? are you thinking that working is something that you are honestly capable of doing right now? I have no idea of your disabling conditions , however, if this particular job is willing to accomadate you , then whose to believe that their are not other jobs out there who are as well? I am playing the devils advocate right now, just to help you , because a judge might think that as well? I want you to be on your toes when your hearing comes up of this possibility.
Best wishes to you.
Cathy
Have you been looking for work? How have you been feeling? are you thinking that working is something that you are honestly capable of doing right now? I have no idea of your disabling conditions , however, if this particular job is willing to accomadate you , then whose to believe that their are not other jobs out there who are as well? I am playing the devils advocate right now, just to help you , because a judge might think that as well? I want you to be on your toes when your hearing comes up of this possibility.
Best wishes to you.
Cathy
happygirl440
08-23-2009, 12:40 PM
It's a small Mom and Pop place that needs help with accounting using a programe called QuickBooks which I am trained in.
They would do all the lifting of files, getting me files anything that requires me walking. I could take a break at anytime.
My disiabilites are:
4 chronic fractures in my thoracic
Diabetic 4/2000 non insulin
Tricuspid Valve Leak 8/2003
Enlarged Heart 8/2003
Aorta Valve Leak 12/2005
PTSD 1993
Anxiety
Depression
Asthmatic 2002
Bilateral Carpal Tunnel 3/2008
Myofasical '07
BACK
SCS IMPLANT '07
17 Disk Herniation
impingement on root nerve L4
Chronic Back Pain
Acute Bilateral Radiculopathy
Degenerative Disk Joint Disease
Spinal Stenosis
Post lumbar syndrome
lumbar spondylosis
Lumbar neuropathy
I feel like crap and am in pain 24/7. Moving the wrong way can cause extream pain. I walk with a limp and use a cane to keep steady. Sometime I'm so bad I need a wheelchair or a walker.
I was just thinking that if I got out of the house a few hours a week to talk to others it may help with the depression of not being a normal person.
All my Dr's say I can not work a full time job.
I did go through vocational rehab and was discharged due to needing emergency medical care.
Cindy
They would do all the lifting of files, getting me files anything that requires me walking. I could take a break at anytime.
My disiabilites are:
4 chronic fractures in my thoracic
Diabetic 4/2000 non insulin
Tricuspid Valve Leak 8/2003
Enlarged Heart 8/2003
Aorta Valve Leak 12/2005
PTSD 1993
Anxiety
Depression
Asthmatic 2002
Bilateral Carpal Tunnel 3/2008
Myofasical '07
BACK
SCS IMPLANT '07
17 Disk Herniation
impingement on root nerve L4
Chronic Back Pain
Acute Bilateral Radiculopathy
Degenerative Disk Joint Disease
Spinal Stenosis
Post lumbar syndrome
lumbar spondylosis
Lumbar neuropathy
I feel like crap and am in pain 24/7. Moving the wrong way can cause extream pain. I walk with a limp and use a cane to keep steady. Sometime I'm so bad I need a wheelchair or a walker.
I was just thinking that if I got out of the house a few hours a week to talk to others it may help with the depression of not being a normal person.
All my Dr's say I can not work a full time job.
I did go through vocational rehab and was discharged due to needing emergency medical care.
Cindy
mscat40
08-23-2009, 08:12 PM
Cindy, what you been through , I am appalled that you had been denied your Social Security claim. And had to take it to this level. that is unreal.
With some of the conditions listed , have you needed corrected surgery? And I am thinking that your taking pain medications too?
Social Security is suppose to help people who are truely disabled , and severe enough that are unable to work or function. With your conditions , I do not know how it would be possible for you to work and not be in tremendous pain.
I am glad that your hearing is very soon. You deserve to win your case.
With some of the conditions listed , have you needed corrected surgery? And I am thinking that your taking pain medications too?
Social Security is suppose to help people who are truely disabled , and severe enough that are unable to work or function. With your conditions , I do not know how it would be possible for you to work and not be in tremendous pain.
I am glad that your hearing is very soon. You deserve to win your case.
happygirl440
08-23-2009, 10:03 PM
thanks, every one but SS thinks i should have won already, the only thing new since i filed in may of 07 is the carpal tunnel, i have has surgery on my back which is now called failed surgery, when i did file i had all my medical recoreds and doctors supporting me. in 1997 at 34 i had to learn how to walk again...i never filed back then...
In my denials SS says i can do secondary work but not the work I have been trained to do...i also only have a GED no college...
yes i do take two meds for pain and two for ptsd and depression
i am allergic to narcotics to boot
my new pry dr (since i moved out of state a year ago) said my back is sooo messed up he will not do anything for me for it...which i totally understand and he refered me to 3 other specialists
when i filed for SSD i filed for eveything that is wrong with me not just one or two...my attorney was very surprized i had ot won at the first filing
cindy
In my denials SS says i can do secondary work but not the work I have been trained to do...i also only have a GED no college...
yes i do take two meds for pain and two for ptsd and depression
i am allergic to narcotics to boot
my new pry dr (since i moved out of state a year ago) said my back is sooo messed up he will not do anything for me for it...which i totally understand and he refered me to 3 other specialists
when i filed for SSD i filed for eveything that is wrong with me not just one or two...my attorney was very surprized i had ot won at the first filing
cindy
BeHappy2
08-23-2009, 11:50 PM
Hi Cindy,
I have tears just reading your list of disabilities.
We'll never know how SS had reason to keep you from your Benefits.
What are they possibly thinking of , my thoughts are with you Cindy.
Hopefully you will have all of your Benefits you deserve very soon.
Wish you well
BeHappy2
I have tears just reading your list of disabilities.
We'll never know how SS had reason to keep you from your Benefits.
What are they possibly thinking of , my thoughts are with you Cindy.
Hopefully you will have all of your Benefits you deserve very soon.
Wish you well
BeHappy2
Executor
08-24-2009, 01:01 AM
Hey Cindy...Just wanted to wish you luck at your hearing. Please remember that when you go to your hearing, to focus on "what prevents you from working" and not so much as to your conditions per se. Unfortunately, many make the mistake of focusing on their conditions. It's not the condition that prevents some from working, but rather the effects of the condition(s).
For example, some people are depressed, but when treated successfully, they can function normally. However, for others, the depression and the related meds bring on certain side effects that make working impossible....In ability to focus or concentrate, inability to socialize with many people, require lots of sleep, can be aggressive with some people, and etc. All depression is different and some people experience some really terrible side effects.
Another example is the pain associated with one's condition. It's not the back pain, or surgery, or compression that makes working difficult, but rather the intensity of the pain and the required pain meds. The intensity may require one to lay frequently, or require a lot of sleep. The meds may make one loopy, or sedated, as well as disoriented, and the inability to concentrate. Most pain meds disqualify one from operating a motor vehicle (while taking them) thus getting to and from work is compromised.
The above (as examples) are the types of things that one should focus on rather than the condition themselves. Many have terrible conditions (such as cancer), but if treated successfully, the applicant can either work or return to work. It's not the condition that disqualifies you, but rather the impact of the condition.
Best of luck to you. Good things happen to good people and I think your time will be here very soon. :)
Regards,
Ex
For example, some people are depressed, but when treated successfully, they can function normally. However, for others, the depression and the related meds bring on certain side effects that make working impossible....In ability to focus or concentrate, inability to socialize with many people, require lots of sleep, can be aggressive with some people, and etc. All depression is different and some people experience some really terrible side effects.
Another example is the pain associated with one's condition. It's not the back pain, or surgery, or compression that makes working difficult, but rather the intensity of the pain and the required pain meds. The intensity may require one to lay frequently, or require a lot of sleep. The meds may make one loopy, or sedated, as well as disoriented, and the inability to concentrate. Most pain meds disqualify one from operating a motor vehicle (while taking them) thus getting to and from work is compromised.
The above (as examples) are the types of things that one should focus on rather than the condition themselves. Many have terrible conditions (such as cancer), but if treated successfully, the applicant can either work or return to work. It's not the condition that disqualifies you, but rather the impact of the condition.
Best of luck to you. Good things happen to good people and I think your time will be here very soon. :)
Regards,
Ex
happygirl440
08-24-2009, 09:18 AM
Thanks for the advice EX.
I am trying to write some notes down for when I go so I don't forget what I want to say. Plus my husband is going with me as well.
My PTSD does effect my driving...so do the meds I take for it.
Cindy
I am trying to write some notes down for when I go so I don't forget what I want to say. Plus my husband is going with me as well.
My PTSD does effect my driving...so do the meds I take for it.
Cindy
Alexa3
08-24-2009, 01:57 PM
Everyone has given you good advice, and it is better not to risk it. If you want to get out of the house to help your depression then find a group that gets together once a week. Go to a shelter and take a dog for a walk, or pet some cats and kittens, they are so starved for affection. I lost my cat of 19 years, it was extremely painful for me, still is, but then 2 1/2 months later 3 feral kittens were found near our house and I just couldn't resist them. They were 4 weeks old, and I will still in the beginning of the SS process, and alone all day. It was a lot of work, litter box training, weaning off formula, and making them feel safe and loved. It's been 2 1/2 years later and I am grateful for them. They have each other to play and entertain, and I get the cuddles and love, good for my blood pressure. Also mentoring a young girl, you can go out to lunch or just whatever you feel like, and she could end up someone that would like to help you go shopping. Those things are perfect for a disabled person that lives alone, or while our partners are at work. It's what has kept me off the depression meds. It's so much better then making a few bucks. Then when if you still want to after you get approved you can try to the ticket to work program and won't risk your benefits. Good luck!
SpineAZ
08-25-2009, 02:32 AM
I just wanted to say I agree with Ex 100% - she gave the advice I would have given (on both the answers - about not taking that job right now and to focus on what prevents you from working at the hearing).