niecsey
09-07-2002, 08:32 AM
hi guess wot me who tells others how to cope with panic????? guess who had one last night after nearly 18 month??? ME....... l feel pathetic http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/bang.gif it happened about 2 oclock this morning, it wasnt a massive one, but l felt like l was suffocating, my heart was going crazy and it had all day its still doing it now, im really ----- off http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/bang.gif l couldnt lie in bed soon as l lay down that was it l thought im gonna have a heart attack tonight and die im soooo sick of this thought id cracked it, my so has been p----- me off alot lately hes so annoying im just tierd today still got the palpatations, got to tell myself like last time im not putting up with this anymore and i havnt till last night, it wasnt a full blown thing thank god, but it was enough to remind me how far id come, sorry for venting l havnt told none about last night i feel better for off loading here, most of you will know how it feels, il rise above it...................Again http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/bang.gif take care all http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/heart.gif
ps..... has any of you experienced this before, when you get really scared or anxious wotever you get these 'pain' like rushes up either side of your back and it momentarily catches your breath???? or could this be the adrenalin rushes??? ive had 2 of these over thelast 2 weeks last one was about a yr and a half ago thanx
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ps..... has any of you experienced this before, when you get really scared or anxious wotever you get these 'pain' like rushes up either side of your back and it momentarily catches your breath???? or could this be the adrenalin rushes??? ive had 2 of these over thelast 2 weeks last one was about a yr and a half ago thanx
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andreaphilip3
09-07-2002, 11:57 AM
so sorry neicy& yes i get tyhat pain too. it feels like heart attack& at night in bed i need air on or gan b/c otherwise i cant breathe.
chrysanthemum
09-07-2002, 12:04 PM
My dear, sweet Niecsey,
I am sooooo sorry to hear that you had a panic attack. It is the most horrible feeling to experience that kind of anxiety after not having had it for a while.
I wish we were all there with you, and in a way we are, I guess, because you felt that you could come here and vent and that we would understand (which you could, and we do). Make any sense...? http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/dizzy.gif
I hope this doesn't happen to you again in the near future...actually I would rather you never had to go through it...I will be thinking of you, and sending relaxing vibes your way.
You have been such a wonderful help to so many people here, Niecsey...just seeing your name on a post makes me smile; we love you to bits, and we're here for you.
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Take care sweety, and let us know how you're doing,
Chrys. :)
I am sooooo sorry to hear that you had a panic attack. It is the most horrible feeling to experience that kind of anxiety after not having had it for a while.
I wish we were all there with you, and in a way we are, I guess, because you felt that you could come here and vent and that we would understand (which you could, and we do). Make any sense...? http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/dizzy.gif
I hope this doesn't happen to you again in the near future...actually I would rather you never had to go through it...I will be thinking of you, and sending relaxing vibes your way.
You have been such a wonderful help to so many people here, Niecsey...just seeing your name on a post makes me smile; we love you to bits, and we're here for you.
(((((((((((((((((((((( http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/heart.gif http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/bang.gif Niecsey http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/bang.gif http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/heart.gif ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Take care sweety, and let us know how you're doing,
Chrys. :)
niecsey
09-07-2002, 12:52 PM
thanx you my dear friends http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/heart.gif it meant so much to me to read your post chrys the feelings mutual you are a wonderful and special lady, andrea l hope your ok and im thinking about you http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/heart.gif last nights 'pest' was a moderate attack , i felt l couldnt breath, and my heart.........gawd thought id wake up dead http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/bang.gif lol(joke u cant wake up dead lol) the 'rushes' scared me most ive only had it happen about half a dozen when im really upset mad angry the like it sort of grips you really fast up both sides of ur back sort of meets for a split second catches your breath and thats basically it l dont like it, it scares me http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/bang.gif im determined not to go back to 'attacks' again i promised myself the last time 18 months ago i wasnt gonna put up with it and it did work.....till last night. l feel i can come here because i am amongst people who share and care (the same problem) try tellin ur mates lol http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/bang.gif thanx again i am trying very hard today to think of other things etc ps. does anyone wanna kid?? shes doing my head in lol http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/dizzy.gif this is the second time ive wrote this when i posted it i had exceeded my smilies then when i came back it had all gone???!!!! so this post is a bit different to the missing one, ive taken some passion flower supposed to calm your nerves lol il keep popping back to update or to help anyone else if any one has any faith left in me lol, thanx again your all the best take care http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/heart.gif
andreaphilip3
09-07-2002, 04:02 PM
thanksneicey. im thinkin of you as well. my prob is 4 me, stress=panic& my stress level is off the charts!
Karima
09-07-2002, 08:38 PM
Hi,
I read your post about that pain and thought you were talking about me! I have had everyone suggest this and that as to why..the last one was that the adrenaline rush causes our chest wall muscles to spasm.
I cannot tell you how many times it has sent me to the e.r...only to find out my heart was fine and the doctor tells me to get the stress out of my life...
I love an answer like that. Sometimes even after the stressor is actively gone, our memories throw us a curve ball and we are sitting ducks for another attack.
But the hardest is not having had any panic attacks for a long time, and then have them start up. It's like a ball rolling downhill too once they start...all those familiar symptoms, same pattern and dread.
Personally after 30 some years of this and speaking only for myself, I don't think I will ever be free of it entirely. The recent attacks though were after several years and my agoraphobia can be somewhat predictable. Give me lots of stress and that will bring on the anxiety, which brings on the panic attacks, which brings on the agoraphobia.
Whenever I get to feeling pretty bad about this, I take a good look around at others who are serious and terminally ill....it's then I feel how fortunate I am..
I read your post about that pain and thought you were talking about me! I have had everyone suggest this and that as to why..the last one was that the adrenaline rush causes our chest wall muscles to spasm.
I cannot tell you how many times it has sent me to the e.r...only to find out my heart was fine and the doctor tells me to get the stress out of my life...
I love an answer like that. Sometimes even after the stressor is actively gone, our memories throw us a curve ball and we are sitting ducks for another attack.
But the hardest is not having had any panic attacks for a long time, and then have them start up. It's like a ball rolling downhill too once they start...all those familiar symptoms, same pattern and dread.
Personally after 30 some years of this and speaking only for myself, I don't think I will ever be free of it entirely. The recent attacks though were after several years and my agoraphobia can be somewhat predictable. Give me lots of stress and that will bring on the anxiety, which brings on the panic attacks, which brings on the agoraphobia.
Whenever I get to feeling pretty bad about this, I take a good look around at others who are serious and terminally ill....it's then I feel how fortunate I am..
niecsey
09-08-2002, 07:52 AM
thanx for that karima, i know theres people worse off but at the time.........lol as for the 'pain' when i get the 'rush' its end in the middle of my backjust below/on shoulder balde meet are yours??? actually l had another 'rush' last night http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/bang.gif im sorry i cant write more as im off out i will come back and continue take care :wave:
Karima
09-08-2002, 11:26 AM
The pain is about 2-3 inches below the area you are talking and even after the panic attack is over, the back pain remains much longer and then goes into ache, soreness for a few days. Have you ever used the rice socks for pain anywhere on your body? Just thought I would pass it along. Get a pair of mens tubular socks, those long narrow type and fill with uncooked rice..tie a strong knot at the top. I keep them both in the freezer. Depending on whether you need ice or heat they are great. If you want ice for a headache,just use staight out of the freeze, they are comfortable and stay very cold. For your back, just throw into the microwave to get hot. I wrap a thin towel around the hot rice sock and then lay on it. It stays very hot and actually moving around on the sock almost seems like a little massage if you can stand it.
Hope that helps...best wishes, Karima
Hope that helps...best wishes, Karima
andreaphilip3
09-08-2002, 11:45 AM
i agree.. it IS really hard when they go away for a long time&come back. thats wut happened 2 me. actually its kinda funny cuz i went like 4 yrs w/o& then was put on xanax in june to help relieve anxiety(but had no atttacks)& then in july i started having them& now i have them anywhere from several times a week to 1x month, no way to tell.
niecsey
09-08-2002, 02:57 PM
hi andrea it stinks dont it? l think ive always been anxious as long as i can remember not all the time but some of the time, gonna keep my fingers crossed and everything else lol couldnt stand all that crap again, you think youve sussed it then WHACK http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/bang.gif out of nowhere its back, i feel ok today andrea and good luck :wave:
andreaphilip3
09-08-2002, 04:44 PM
whack is exactly right!
im glad yr doin ok. im stuck in a vicious cycle.... my attacks are brought on havin my back worked on as well as WHO is actually doin the work, but at the same time, its the attacks thats hinduring the healing of the back. even worse... is why im anxious over the who part to begin with. i swear.... what to do?
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im glad yr doin ok. im stuck in a vicious cycle.... my attacks are brought on havin my back worked on as well as WHO is actually doin the work, but at the same time, its the attacks thats hinduring the healing of the back. even worse... is why im anxious over the who part to begin with. i swear.... what to do?
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bev52
09-11-2002, 04:03 AM
Oh Niecsey, I'm so sorry you and the others had to go through those crappy P/A's. I've been in the ER more than once. Was positive I was having a heart attack. :eek: They hooked me up to all the gadgets...no, nothing wrong w/you, healthy as a horse....now get out of here you old cow. http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/dizzy.gif (They didn't say it, but I figured they were thinkin it). When you have such severe symptoms, it almost makes you mad :mad: for them to say, "nothings wrong w/ya." On the other hand - you're glad, but it seems so severe that it seems impossible for them to say that, and you start questioning if they know what they're doing! LOL! Ya just can't win. Nobody understands unless they've had the experience.
Hope to hear good things from you and the others soon!
Bevlep
Hope to hear good things from you and the others soon!
Bevlep
Lizzy H
09-11-2002, 08:37 PM
Hi Niecsey
I really do know how you feel. You may not have read my post, but recently I had a "blip" or setback. Mine too came at night and it was after being off meds for about 10 weeks. I was jumping awake with panic flashes just as I was trying to fall asleep. Thats ONE of the things that happened to 1st time around. I have to say it devastated me, the next day I started getting panic waves over me (not full attacks) and another bad night. I was taken soooo much by surprise and it knocked me for six it took me 2 or 3 days to get a grip and use some self help from Dr Weekes (I know you have her books). I also looked back at what was going on at the time and yes it was my kids causing me stress as well. The worst thing about it though is that it comes at night out of the blue and you feel there is nothing that you can do about it, you are too tired to try.
I too have had that pain when I was starting to get ill and it is so awful and painful.
Just and idea, do you think that it may have been really bad indigestion? you may be jumping to conclusions, the following night may have been because you were still sore from the night before. Not everything is anxiety, just think to yourself that it could have been and the anxiety about it might just lift.
Take care
Lizzy XX
I really do know how you feel. You may not have read my post, but recently I had a "blip" or setback. Mine too came at night and it was after being off meds for about 10 weeks. I was jumping awake with panic flashes just as I was trying to fall asleep. Thats ONE of the things that happened to 1st time around. I have to say it devastated me, the next day I started getting panic waves over me (not full attacks) and another bad night. I was taken soooo much by surprise and it knocked me for six it took me 2 or 3 days to get a grip and use some self help from Dr Weekes (I know you have her books). I also looked back at what was going on at the time and yes it was my kids causing me stress as well. The worst thing about it though is that it comes at night out of the blue and you feel there is nothing that you can do about it, you are too tired to try.
I too have had that pain when I was starting to get ill and it is so awful and painful.
Just and idea, do you think that it may have been really bad indigestion? you may be jumping to conclusions, the following night may have been because you were still sore from the night before. Not everything is anxiety, just think to yourself that it could have been and the anxiety about it might just lift.
Take care
Lizzy XX
Aster
09-11-2002, 09:39 PM
Niecsey, I am so sad that happened to you. But I must confess: it seems to me it's better in your bed than
in a car with the inlaws. I've never had one in the safety of my bed; no, mine wait until I'm at a party
or in public. That way, maybe everyone will glare at me in amazement and fright! Then talk about it all month.
I am very sorry and hope it doesn't happen again.
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Aster
in a car with the inlaws. I've never had one in the safety of my bed; no, mine wait until I'm at a party
or in public. That way, maybe everyone will glare at me in amazement and fright! Then talk about it all month.
I am very sorry and hope it doesn't happen again.
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Aster
niecsey
09-12-2002, 07:18 AM
hi ya thanx for all the support http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/heart.gif i hope your all feelin well today ive been takin passion flower which is helpin although it does make me soooooo sleepy, had the stopped heart and stopped breathing in bed last night but hey!!!! guess who woke up today?? lolol, aster you made me laff at inlaws no the feeling lol lizzie i hope your feelin better, it was not indigestion this came from my kidney area i do get indigestion when really anxious this ahappened because i was feelin anxious and had a bit of a shock, its a shock thing bev hope your doing ok your all :angel:S and im really thankful to you all take care i will let u no how i get on havnt made appointment yet for docs but will soon l hope you all have a peacful day :wave:
chrysanthemum
09-12-2002, 07:27 AM
Hi sweetie http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/bang.gif
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niecsey
09-12-2002, 08:01 AM
hi chrys you guardian :angel: hope your good lovely lady http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/heart.gif
bev52
09-14-2002, 01:17 AM
Hi deni,
Glad to hear you're some better and you are also one of our :angel: 's.
Be well and may you have peace.
Until next time we talk... http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/heart.gif XOXOXO http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/heart.gif
Glad to hear you're some better and you are also one of our :angel: 's.
Be well and may you have peace.
Until next time we talk... http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/heart.gif XOXOXO http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/heart.gif
niecsey
09-14-2002, 04:37 AM
thanx bev http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/heart.gif i think your all :angel: s too ( prettier than that one lol) :wave:
bev52
09-14-2002, 04:12 PM
Ohhhhhhh, you've made me blush! http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/redface.gif :D http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/redface.gif