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0603david 09-12-2003, 02:54 PM
Does anyone else think they have a disease but they don't know what it is (Or if they even REALLY have a disease)? Every ping and pang in my body, I think I am dying. I do have deadly high cholestorol for being 27 years old. I'm sure it stems from that but I have a husband and a son now and the thought of leaving them makes me sick all day long. So sick I could vomit. I have been thinking of this scenario for a couple years now, everyday. How can I live life to the fullest if I am always thinking, "I won't live past 30". Any ideas?
Jennifer
tracey2775 09-12-2003, 05:20 PM
im the same as you in a way. the slightest pain and i think im on a death sentence. if i have a pain in my head i have a brain tumor. if i have a sore throat ive throat cancer and the list goes on. im terrifed of having cancer and dying.
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tracey
Daisy624 09-13-2003, 03:33 PM
I am the exact same way. Every little pain or weird feeling I have, I think I'm dying. I have a boyfriend which I'm one day going to marry and I too am so afraid of the thought of being without him or even my family. I am going througth Lucinda Bassett's program and it is really helping. Also, I keep my mind occupied so I don't think these thoughts. So far the thoughts have subsided and I'm not thinking about it 24/7.
Daisy
Yeah, i totally agree. I have Costochondritis, a condition in which the cartilage of the joints in which the ribs connect to the sternum becomes inflamed. I also have a massive area of what sometimes seems to be permanently pulled intercostal muscles. Since the cartilage swells up and pushes on bones, sometimes i get a shooting pain into my jaw or down my arm. This plays havoc on the panic, since the pain is generally right in the area of the heart and it allows the classic pain of a heart attack to be felt in the absence of an actually serious condition. So the cycle plays out. Pain, panic, stress, then that leads to more pain, and so on and so forth.
zekat 09-14-2003, 12:56 PM
0603david
Have you had your thyroid checked? High cholesterol can be linked to an underactive thyroid (not to mention, depression, anxiety, mood swings and a whole assortment of other physical symptoms).
Carrie830 09-14-2003, 06:52 PM
0603david; just try to keep in mind you are not alone! I am worried 24-7 im having heart problems! it sucks i no , im getting so sick of thinking im sick all the time, im only 27 also
worrywort 09-14-2003, 08:43 PM
I also worry like crazy about dying, I hate feeling this way. try to take your mind off things the best you can. god bless
0603david 09-15-2003, 11:57 AM
I had my thyroid checked when I was 13 and it seemed to be fine. However, I'm wondering if that can change as years go by. I think I am going to have it checked again. I do have alot of symptoms that point to hypo thyroid. I also am going to try to keep my mind busy.
Thanks all-
Jennifer
MAurelius 09-17-2003, 08:18 PM
I used to be concerned about death a lot. However, after seriously thinking about what Epicurus and Wittgenstein said about death, that it's not an event in life, it doesn't bother me. The fact is that you will never, ever experience your own death. If nonexistence troubles you, then why aren't you concerned about the ETERNITY you did no exist before you were born. Did it trouble you? No. Death will be the same state, so stop worrying about it. Now, if you think you'll die and end up in hell, that's something we can talk about too. Let me know. Here's some thoughts by famous men to consider:
Mark Twain was once asked whether he feared death. He said that he did not, in view of the fact that he had been dead for billions and billions of years before he was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it.
"Death does not concern us, because as long as we exist, death is not here. And
when it does come, we no longer exist."--Epicurus
cattys 09-17-2003, 08:28 PM
I am also so petrified of death. I to worry alot but being on a antidepressent does help me not worry as much.
Your thyroid can change. Since it has been so long maybe you should get it checked again.
I hope you start feeling better soon.
cattys :)
mcQuigg2002 12-29-2003, 12:02 PM
I too can relate to you totally. It's a curse......I have had 3 babies in 5 years and I have had bouts of the same thoughts...I contribute it to homones. Because it comes and goes.. I gotta run I will write back
mcQuigg2002 12-29-2003, 01:18 PM
beckysma 12-29-2003, 01:36 PM
Oh yeah. And in reference to the post above, for me it has nothing to do with the afterlife. I am confident and secure in my eternal destination. I worry about the pain and panic inevitable in the death experience, but primarily I worry most about leaving my children without me.
I'm just trying to learn to give it over to God and know that He's in control...
It's hard for me to remember that, though, and anxiety is genetic in my family, so it's hard to control!
Jennifer, what is being done for your cholesterol, and are you on any anxiety medication or seeking counseling for this? You do not have to live this way. Fear 24/7 is no life at all. There is help out there!!
{{HUG!!}}
Some12 12-29-2003, 01:40 PM
Does anyone else think they have a disease but they don't know what it is (Or if they even REALLY have a disease)? Every ping and pang in my body, I think I am dying. I do have deadly high cholestorol for being 27 years old. I'm sure it stems from that but I have a husband and a son now and the thought of leaving them makes me sick all day long. So sick I could vomit. I have been thinking of this scenario for a couple years now, everyday. How can I live life to the fullest if I am always thinking, "I won't live past 30". Any ideas?
Jennifer
Dear 0603david,
You need to realize that this thought of dying is no more then a symptom of a disorder, such as depression. It is just a fear not something life threating that is going to physically harm you in any way. You need to seek out therapy for this and a Psychratrist for medication if needed before this turns from obsession to panic disorder. Where you are at now, it would appear that therapy could get you past this and maybe a low dosage of an anti-depressant for the negative thoughts if required at all. Do something about this, you have dealt with this long enough. Please seek the help you need.
Sincerely,
Sickman :)
mcQuigg2002 12-29-2003, 05:44 PM
I know exactly what your saying about leaving your children behind....but God already knows exactly when and where we are going to die. We need to trust in the Lord with all our hearts and he wont give us anymore then we cannot handle. So then why are we still full of fear? Well I can tell you this much it doesnt come from the Lord...the bible promises that. I think its our thoughts...if we feed them then it can take us to a very bad place.....like more health issues. IBS, panic attacks, palpataions...etc.....
I struggle with all of this...but does God want us too? NO! He wants us to had it over to him and trust in him that if he takes us home he will take care of our babies. AFTER ALL OUR BABIES BELONG TO HIM, RIGHT?
I know I have three of them...all under 5 and I struggle with all this daily! I must have too much time on my hands!
Indianband 12-30-2003, 08:15 AM
I am the exact same way. Every little pain or weird feeling I have, I think I'm dying. I have a boyfriend which I'm one day going to marry and I too am so afraid of the thought of being without him or even my family. I am going througth Lucinda Bassett's program and it is really helping. Also, I keep my mind occupied so I don't think these thoughts. So far the thoughts have subsided and I'm not thinking about it 24/7.
Daisy
Daisy,
I haven't been on here in quite a while and I know your post is back from September but am hoping that you still check in. I feel the same way as you and I can't live like this anymore. Last night I sent for Lucinda Bassett's program. Does it really work? I hate to spend over $400 for another thing that doesn't work. I have been in counseling and on meds, nothing seems to help. I have a family history of anxiety which has been made worse by being involved in a car accident in October of 2002. We were at a craft fair (outside) and my husband, our son and myself along with 13 other people were hit by a car. Hubby was hurt bad, has 2 shattered legs, will never walk normally again, was forced to retire from Verizon where he had worked for 40 years. Money is tight, we could lose our home, lawsuit is pending but there isn't much money to be divided up between 16 people plus all of the lawyers involved. I am so scared every day of my life, can't function, just sick of feeling like this.
If you are still on here, would love to know more about the program as they said it will take a week or more to get here. Are you better? I will be waiting for your reply.
Thanks,
Indianband
beckysma 12-30-2003, 04:15 PM
I know exactly what your saying about leaving your children behind....but God already knows exactly when and where we are going to die. We need to trust in the Lord with all our hearts and he wont give us anymore then we cannot handle. So then why are we still full of fear? Well I can tell you this much it doesnt come from the Lord...the bible promises that. I think its our thoughts...if we feed them then it can take us to a very bad place.....like more health issues. IBS, panic attacks, palpataions...etc.....
I struggle with all of this...but does God want us too? NO! He wants us to had it over to him and trust in him that if he takes us home he will take care of our babies. AFTER ALL OUR BABIES BELONG TO HIM, RIGHT?
I know I have three of them...all under 5 and I struggle with all this daily! I must have too much time on my hands!
Thank you, I needed that reminder today!! :angel:
puddinpie03 12-31-2003, 07:19 PM
Thank you, I needed that reminder today!! :angel:
As I did also! Thank You McQuigg! If only we cound all heed these words.
God Bless and Happy New Year All!
Lots of Love and Hugs!!!!!
tomgunc 01-01-2004, 05:38 AM
Death does suck. Please do not think about it. Stop thinking about it right now and from on. Change your focus. Let me ask you a question. Before you were born do you know where you were? NO! Do you remember? NO! O.K. then when you die are you going to know where you are? NO! Because you will just move on like everybody does. Like Elvis, or Hitler. It doesn't matter who you are, right?? God wants us dead and that is the way it goes. It doesn't matter if you are the greatest human being like Mother Theresa or even Jesus you must all die. So let's move on. No one can or ever will come up with a solution for the human body to live for ever. So you think you will not see 30. There are 30,000 maybe 50,000 people dead in Iran just 4 days ago. Do you know how many of them died that were under 30 or 20 or even 5 yrs old. You do not have AIDS right?? No Cancer, right? So tell me the trick of how you are going to die. It's not like the book, " Think and Grow Rich". Do you know what I am saying? You can't "Think Death and Dying and Dye" God did not make us THAT Powerfull. We can sit and think all day long about dying, death until we turn blue and we can never accomplish death by thought. Think about it. Sit with a couple of your friends and or your therapist and think about dying and get yourself so scared and record yourself on a camcorder and see you act, see your muscles tighten up. And play the video back and say to yourself, WOW, and here I though all I had to do was sit here think about dying and I would die, I was sure of it....it felt so real. Damn It, let's try again. You can do that 365 days a year and never die. No one on planet earth has ever died just because they are afraid to die. Try it, See if you can die. NOT POSSIBLE MY FRIEND, NOT POSSIBLE AT ALL.
mcQuigg2002 01-01-2004, 11:50 AM
To the last post...........Wow! Thanks for all your comments! I am sure everyone else here on this board appreciates them as well!!!!!! May God bless you!!!!!!
housemum 01-01-2004, 12:18 PM
One of my biggest fears has not been me dying , but one of be beloved children.
Well that fear came true last week, and I'm dealing with it. Of course the panic was there, but not as bad as I thought.
When we are faced to deal with a big fear of ours, I believe God gives us the grace at that time to deal with it. (that is if you are a believer in Him).
The pain and despair of loss is so real, but that underlying hope that all will be okay gives me and my family peace.
We do spend a lot of time worrying of ourselves, aches and pains, our kids, their lives, etc etc. I see how that we have no control over any of it anyway.
I just give it all to God, I'm so vunerable right now I could scream, but life is preceding on. Yeah the Ativan helps, but doesn't take away all the intense emotions I'm going through, nothing will.....but I can be sure if any of you are called to loose a child or your own life, there is a place to go and receive comfort. We were not meant to carry our burdens alone.
krisy 01-02-2004, 11:41 PM
Does anyone else think they have a disease but they don't know what it is (Or if they even REALLY have a disease)? Every ping and pang in my body, I think I am dying. I do have deadly high cholestorol for being 27 years old. I'm sure it stems from that but I have a husband and a son now and the thought of leaving them makes me sick all day long. So sick I could vomit. I have been thinking of this scenario for a couple years now, everyday. How can I live life to the fullest if I am always thinking, "I won't live past 30". Any ideas?
Jennifer
Hi Jennifer,
I feel exactly the same way. I am 27 yrs old, engaged with a son myself. All day,everyday I feel like I am going to die of something. I start to feel sick and then my body gets weak. I can't go one minute without feeling this way. I have been doing some reading and some people say to go see a docter, to put your mind to rest that you don't have a disease. I can't get myself to do that because I am afraid to
hear that I do have something and don't have long to live.
Kristen
nyxin 01-02-2004, 11:51 PM
hummmmmm, maybe it has something to do with being 27? i am 27 as well with a 6 month old son. i had many many complications with my delivery and got a very rare colon infection 6 weeks after he was born. this type of infection is seen in people with AIDS or Leukiemia. i however do not, but i didn't find this out untill i had enough time to convince myself i was going to die from both things. i still am having pain in my side, but i have had SOOOOOOOO many tests done and everything is normal. i feel this annoying pain all the time and therefore it gives me a constant reminder of how sick i was and i start to think that i am getting sick again. i am on xanax, but it isn't helping very much anymore. just when i think i am better i get worse. moral of the story is i think that i am dying too because i almost did 2 times in two months. makes me afraid to go to sleep sometimes.
krisy 01-03-2004, 12:01 AM
Yes, I am afraid to go to sleep too. Afraid I won't wake up. I have convinced myself that I have a disease and
that I will not see my son grow up. I never felt this way until I became a mother.
nyxin 01-03-2004, 12:49 AM
do you think this is a form of post-partum depression? like a post partum obsession? it sounds like we all have a lot in common, the age, babies, irrational thoughts..... have you actually been sick?
krisy 01-03-2004, 10:12 AM
I am not sure if it's post partum because my son is 6. I never have be diagnosed with anything...but then again I never go to the doctors. The feelings I have been having really took control of my life a year and a half ago. I wonder if it's because my life is going so good now. Meaning, before I was working 2 jobs, one being a bartender...not really knowing what I was going to do with my life....now I am getting married to a friend of 10 years from college. I have an awesome job, drive nice cars, involved with my sons sports and school, go to church. I wonder because I like my life now, if that is why I am feeling this way?
mcQuigg2002 01-03-2004, 09:35 PM
You know it very well might have a name attached to it since we all suffer from these irrational thoughts. I drive my loved ones crazy...especially now. My glands in my neck are swollen and my mind has already started.......my gosh I have a cold/flu and its probably from that...but I have to think the worse in these situations. Good luck to you both!
beebsqtip 01-04-2004, 03:41 PM
I am the exact same way. Every little pain or weird feeling I have, I think I'm dying. I have a boyfriend which I'm one day going to marry and I too am so afraid of the thought of being without him or even my family. I am going througth Lucinda Bassett's program and it is really helping. Also, I keep my mind occupied so I don't think these thoughts. So far the thoughts have subsided and I'm not thinking about it 24/7.
Daisy
WOW! Somebody that feels the exactly the same way I do :)
Anyways. Does the Lucinda BAsset's program work. I was thinking about buying it the other day, but I was afraid it won't work.
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