AngelaDarling
12-29-2000, 10:55 PM
Anyone know why a person at my age, 17, suddenly becomes overwhelmed with thoughts of 'what if i die in a car crash' The only solution I can think of is to be a really careful driver, but that just makes me vulnerable to the aggressive drivers and I become more nervous
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Nomoremimes
01-02-2001, 01:16 AM
Angela, You can get carried away with
"What If" thinking. I did and it caused me
to have panic attacks while driving. It took
me years to be able to drive alone again.
You just have to watch the other drivers on the road and ask God to keep you safe.
"What If" thinking. I did and it caused me
to have panic attacks while driving. It took
me years to be able to drive alone again.
You just have to watch the other drivers on the road and ask God to keep you safe.
JenniferJay
01-02-2001, 07:25 AM
Question for you Angela:
Why are you afraid to die? Are you afraid of the pain that could be associated with it? Or fear of what happens after death?
Here's something interesting my psychology professor taught. He said that if you find yourself having a panic attack, or an anxiety attack, if you try to make yourself have a WORSE attack while it's happening (esentially, try to make it all worse) then it will get better. It seems like an odd way to go about it, but think about it. If you try to make yourself fear something MORE, it just gets ridiculous and instead of the fear controlling you, YOU control the fear.
Take care- and seek some help if this becomes a big enough problem that it's controlling your life, ok???
Why are you afraid to die? Are you afraid of the pain that could be associated with it? Or fear of what happens after death?
Here's something interesting my psychology professor taught. He said that if you find yourself having a panic attack, or an anxiety attack, if you try to make yourself have a WORSE attack while it's happening (esentially, try to make it all worse) then it will get better. It seems like an odd way to go about it, but think about it. If you try to make yourself fear something MORE, it just gets ridiculous and instead of the fear controlling you, YOU control the fear.
Take care- and seek some help if this becomes a big enough problem that it's controlling your life, ok???
TrickyDick
01-02-2001, 11:19 AM
I had a fear of death and dying for 13 months. The possibility of me dying during those months was very real. Many of my friends died during that time. I had survivors guilt for many years. But, no fear of death afterwards. I was saturated with that fear so long it and other things made me go to drinking and drugs and depression.
I think I would trade all that back for fear of death.
I think I would trade all that back for fear of death.
alazay
01-12-2001, 11:43 PM
I have the same problem, and I am only twenty. i am scared to die. i am scared to know what happens after I die. I think about it all the time. It doesn't interfere with my life, but it is annoying sometimes.
AngelaMDarling
01-13-2001, 03:29 AM
After a long and hard month of thinking about death, the only thing that you can do is look out for yourself because it may be the big pay off that keeps you alive to a ripe old age. This means dont be lazy or stop eating right. Be a careful driver, there is NOTHING else that you can do. Try not to predict a horrible thing that might happen to you, chances are that it wont.
sndyeggo1959
01-13-2001, 06:40 PM
When I was 17, I had those type of thoughts, too. I think you're normal, and in time those thoughts will cease mostly. Because of the state our world is in, and because of all the nuts on the road, people of all ages, in my opinion, fear getting into a car crash. The best you can do is drive carefully, always wear your seat belt, and in my opinion...drive a vehicle with plenty of metal around you, i.e. don't drive a dinky little car that doesn't have much protection if you're in a car crash. Hang in there! I'm 41 and still fear the road. It's normal!
Originally posted by AngelaDarling:
Anyone know why a person at my age, 17, suddenly becomes overwhelmed with thoughts of 'what if i die in a car crash' The only solution I can think of is to be a really careful driver, but that just makes me vulnerable to the aggressive drivers and I become more nervous
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Sandyeggo
Originally posted by AngelaDarling:
Anyone know why a person at my age, 17, suddenly becomes overwhelmed with thoughts of 'what if i die in a car crash' The only solution I can think of is to be a really careful driver, but that just makes me vulnerable to the aggressive drivers and I become more nervous
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Sandyeggo
leibesleid
01-14-2001, 02:02 PM
i am not preaching or anything.
but if you have an open mind you might want to read a book called "The Tibetan Book of the Dead". It explains the process of death and dying(not in a gory way), a logical, scientific way.
it may help.
but if you have an open mind you might want to read a book called "The Tibetan Book of the Dead". It explains the process of death and dying(not in a gory way), a logical, scientific way.
it may help.
lukec
02-05-2001, 01:55 AM
The first time I wanted to die it was during the first anxiety attack I had,, how useless to want to diel, when my parents,, my siblings, even my grandparents and good friends were/are still alive. I believe dying outlines the whole process of living. To live you must die, perhaps those thoughts were sent to you from another place angel?
Then it occurs to me everyday that dying is a long process and living is a short one.
And that the rapid rate of consumerism does nothning to keep our minds off of death so what you were thinking is totally normal and does not constitute insanity, if anything, it constitutes the hunger of wanting to know what lies ahead and the fear of conquering it.
Then it occurs to me everyday that dying is a long process and living is a short one.
And that the rapid rate of consumerism does nothning to keep our minds off of death so what you were thinking is totally normal and does not constitute insanity, if anything, it constitutes the hunger of wanting to know what lies ahead and the fear of conquering it.
MonicaAD
02-06-2001, 07:01 PM
I've been there. Usually something happens to us that leads us to fear of dying. Just this summer I had terrible fears of dying.
For me it started when I had chest pains. In my mind I thought I had breast cancer or I was having a heartattack. I kept worrying myself sick, by researching on the internet all these diseases and their symptoms. I was obsessed with that. I had it fixed in my head that I had a horrible disease and that I was going to die. When all I had was a non serious conditionm but even going to the doctor wasn't good enough for me.
Anxiety and worrying is not healthy, it only makes you worse. The truth is that no one can escape death. So why spend our lives worrying about when we are going to die and just live life. Because no one knows when your going to die. You can be the best driver in the world or the healthiest peron and death can still strike you.
It's hard to let go of such feelings though. VERY HARD. So if anyone is still having such thoughts it's better to seek help, because all your doing is making youself more sick. It's not healhy!
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For me it started when I had chest pains. In my mind I thought I had breast cancer or I was having a heartattack. I kept worrying myself sick, by researching on the internet all these diseases and their symptoms. I was obsessed with that. I had it fixed in my head that I had a horrible disease and that I was going to die. When all I had was a non serious conditionm but even going to the doctor wasn't good enough for me.
Anxiety and worrying is not healthy, it only makes you worse. The truth is that no one can escape death. So why spend our lives worrying about when we are going to die and just live life. Because no one knows when your going to die. You can be the best driver in the world or the healthiest peron and death can still strike you.
It's hard to let go of such feelings though. VERY HARD. So if anyone is still having such thoughts it's better to seek help, because all your doing is making youself more sick. It's not healhy!
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smooth
02-25-2001, 11:49 PM
as a general skeptic about everything, i never believed in the power of a really good therapist until i went through a very bad time and had severe depression. i, too, had anxiety attacks, among other things. for me, they were a result of depression due to my inpossible living situation, but i could not see that i was unhappy, and that my unhappiness was causing my anxiety. i know it is scary to go to therapy, but i cannot describe how much it helped me. a trained professional can help you in ways that your friends and family cannot because they are unbiased. for me, my anxiety about death came from depression brought on by guilt. i did not take medication, because i don't believe in them, and i have only seen them do more harm than good in friends and family, unless you get to the root of the problem. i hope you will be willing to find a therapist to talk to.
becmuss
04-28-2001, 06:47 AM
I am alot like you MonicaAD. I am still in the stages where i think i have symptoms of all sorts of illnesses. I am only 27 and i am intelligent enough to know that it is only my imagination, but it can be very frightening at times. When i feel frightened i often experience more anxiety and consequently my heart rate rises, dizziness etc . . . this makes me fear even more. At the moment i am totally fixed on my lack of fitness and how quickly my heart rate rises. My fear of a heart problems scares me. Annoys me so much, and takes up most of my quiet thinking time. Can't wait to not be so in tune with the sound of the beat of my heart. Hope it passess soon. How did you assist in the passing of theses fears.
dreamer
05-02-2001, 03:02 AM
I have no fear of death , and I guess that scares me. Enfact sometimes I feel I would welcome it.
barris
05-21-2001, 12:48 AM
I am infatuated with death... sometimes I cannot get the thought to leave my head. If a friend of mine dies, i play their last moments over and over in my head. I wonder what they were thinking: if they knew they were dying, if they were afraid, and the exact moment of death- what happened. I wish you the best dear, and just remember, "you believe what you want to believe;" so believe that nothing bad will happen to you.
Hugs,
Elijah
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Hugs,
Elijah
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Misery
05-21-2001, 04:46 AM
I guess if you feel like there's a lot for you in love... in the future, people would be more afraid to die.
I agree with dreamer and am pretty sure that I'm ready to go. Death doesn't scare me. My own anyway...
I agree with dreamer and am pretty sure that I'm ready to go. Death doesn't scare me. My own anyway...
dylon8000
06-01-2001, 02:08 AM
No one really knows what happens when you die. But I believe we're all living eternal life right now. I believe this because, if you think about it, the fear of "death" is really only the fear of "nothingness." And "Nothing" does not exist. Nothing is not another sort of something, it is nothing. There is no such thing as nothing. We're alive now, and if there was such a thing as death, I think we'd be dead allready. Have faith in yourself, life and love.
barris
06-11-2001, 09:46 PM
Dylon,
That is a very interesting thought! :) (/Me shuffles to the side just as a lightning bolt hits the ground). "...No such thing as nothing." Thats really a brain toggler. :)
Elijah
That is a very interesting thought! :) (/Me shuffles to the side just as a lightning bolt hits the ground). "...No such thing as nothing." Thats really a brain toggler. :)
Elijah
Jimmy
06-12-2001, 01:48 AM
JenniferJay was really onto something, but it can be taken one step further,
Originally posted by JenniferJay:
....if you find yourself having a panic attack, or an anxiety attack, if you try to make yourself have a WORSE attack while it's happening (esentially, try to make it all worse) then it will get better.
What I've come to see in the course of my own therapy, is that obsessing on things like death and dying has its roots in buried memories. You can TRY all you want to NOT think about dying, but remember, you never TRIED to think about it in the first place. You just found yourself in this situation. This is SUCH an important and profound point. You CANNOT force or think your way INTO becoming obsessive and, therefore, you cannot think your way OUT OF IT. There is a whole other system at work which is responsible for your obsessions on death (and this goes for obsessing on anything else for that matter).
This is why GOING IN THE DIRECTION OF THE OBSESSION is the only way OUT. The obsession is your body desperately trying to tell you something about yourself that your conscious mind is disconnected from (you should read that sentence atleast twice!). You need to embrace the fear, and, in a sense, let yourself die. Of course, I don't mean this literally, but the next time you're in a car (AND YOU'RE NOT DRIVING - SOMEONE ELSE IS!) and you imagine the car crashing, or whatever it is that goes on in your head, really close your eyes and let the scenario play out in your head as specifically as possible. Let yourself feel the fear as completely as possible. You may be amazed at where it leads you. The key is to put the fear BACK IN CONTEXT where it belongs. It's connected to something that ALREADY HAPPENED TO YOU in your past (this can go as far back as your birth). Once you consciously connect with the source (memory), the fear no longer has to symbolize itself on everything in your present life.
Hope that adds a little insight to the problem.
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Originally posted by JenniferJay:
....if you find yourself having a panic attack, or an anxiety attack, if you try to make yourself have a WORSE attack while it's happening (esentially, try to make it all worse) then it will get better.
What I've come to see in the course of my own therapy, is that obsessing on things like death and dying has its roots in buried memories. You can TRY all you want to NOT think about dying, but remember, you never TRIED to think about it in the first place. You just found yourself in this situation. This is SUCH an important and profound point. You CANNOT force or think your way INTO becoming obsessive and, therefore, you cannot think your way OUT OF IT. There is a whole other system at work which is responsible for your obsessions on death (and this goes for obsessing on anything else for that matter).
This is why GOING IN THE DIRECTION OF THE OBSESSION is the only way OUT. The obsession is your body desperately trying to tell you something about yourself that your conscious mind is disconnected from (you should read that sentence atleast twice!). You need to embrace the fear, and, in a sense, let yourself die. Of course, I don't mean this literally, but the next time you're in a car (AND YOU'RE NOT DRIVING - SOMEONE ELSE IS!) and you imagine the car crashing, or whatever it is that goes on in your head, really close your eyes and let the scenario play out in your head as specifically as possible. Let yourself feel the fear as completely as possible. You may be amazed at where it leads you. The key is to put the fear BACK IN CONTEXT where it belongs. It's connected to something that ALREADY HAPPENED TO YOU in your past (this can go as far back as your birth). Once you consciously connect with the source (memory), the fear no longer has to symbolize itself on everything in your present life.
Hope that adds a little insight to the problem.
[This message has been edited by Jimmy (edited 06-12-2001).]
hoekstra
07-11-2001, 06:43 AM
i am 21 and i am depressive and also scared of dying. i am also scared of diseases. sometimes the pressure becomes so strong, that i really want to kill myself. this may sound weird, but some way i love the life so strong, that i want to end it. this sounds crazy. but i am really afraid of dying, not being dead. i wonder how it will feel, the very moment before you die. when you exactly know that this is the end. i am so afraid of this moment. and i am also afraid of the way that i might die. what if you die in a car accident ? being trapped in a wreck, feeling helplessness and pain,waiting to bleed to death. this must be terrible.i want a painless quick death without fear. last week i watched the news and saw a victim,which got shot. lying on the ground, dying in his own blood. i felt terrible watching this ! i mean it must be cruel dying this way. what might the young man,who got shot, have thought when he was lying on the groung, shot in his chest ? i am sure he was afraid of dying and felt helpless.but the sickest thing is, that young persons like us are afraid oy dying and diseases instead of enjoying our lives ! this is really sad ! there are so many young depressive kids, who commit suicide, instead of just being kids. god bless you all !