J#B
04-17-2002, 01:46 PM
Hello. I am new to this board. My son took ritalin from 1990-1994 and weaned himself off of it. We didn't realize this for some months. While he acts a bit immature (like any other teen) he did realitively well throughout high school. 3.0+GPA, sports etc. He is trying to get in the military and has passed all the waiver requirements. Still, the bureau of medicine is being a pain in our backside and I am still jumping through hoops trying to get him in. I am an active duty sailor currently serving as an RDC (drill instructor) I have had recruits diagnosed with ADD/ADHD in the past and they have done well. None were taking meds at the time and have been off medicines for at least a year. Anyone out there know how I can get this issue resolved. Please help.
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JB
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rainbow32
04-18-2002, 02:59 PM
The military can be sooooo picky! But i need to say something first. AD/HD needs medication usually just as diabetics need insulin. MOst AD/HD doesn't grow out of need for medication, especiall as adult life grows more complex with such things as college, focusing on a career, marriage, children, and helping to organize the household, and taking care of yourself by getting enough exercise, healthy diet, etc. Life isn't such a STRUGGLE with the proper medication, behavioral counseling and AD/HD coaching. You may just have to continue the waiting game with the military. It could take several months before they make up their mind. i just wouldn't push to not have your son take any more medication for his AD/HD, as he may very well function much better with it, than without. Perhaps the military isn't meant to be for him, and he could consider other ideas to soon do with his life. At any rate, i wish you and your son the best.
rainbow32
04-22-2002, 12:07 AM
i have to admit, reading Dr. Amen's "Healing ADD", 2001, there is a true story of a boy who sounds ALOT like your son! He, after taking natural treatments for his ADD for one full year (rather than controlled substance medication or any medication, for that matter) got into the U.S. Air Force. But, that approach worked for him. Doing absolutely nothing, i doubt would help. i hope that your son get's word back soon!
fellner
05-06-2002, 01:18 PM
My son has all passed all requirements and was offered an Army ROTC scholarship. On Saturday we got a letter telling us our son was not medically qualified because of ADD after age 12. We were very disappointed are starting the waiver process. Please let me know what things you did to assist your son.
J#B
05-08-2002, 01:29 PM
My son went to see another Psychiatrist. The Dr. said that he showed no symptoms of ADHD. This report was sent up and the waiver was still denied. I can't speak for the other services, but the Navy has some old geezer who can't practice medicine anymore reviewing (or not reviewing) these cases. All the other Doctors I've spoken to say that if the person is not taking meds for one year or more, and can show that they don't need it. For example show job employment or school transcripts/diploma (as in my son's case), the waivers will be granted. Since the Dr. doesn't appear to be reviewing this properly, I have submitted a letter to the commanding officer in our recruiting region. He can override and grant the waiver. If this does not work out, I am submitting a letter to my congressman. This will get results. If you do not have military connections, I would "go congressional" on your son's case. Good luck!
HumanSpirit
05-21-2002, 09:55 PM
Given the problem associated with pharmecutical drugging of the mind and the dangerous outcome in the society as a result, I don't think persons should be in the military or other jobs in which their mental state of mind depends on the pharmecutical drugs for stability. Prehaps you should read more into the amino acid "Tryptophan" and Omega fatty acids and the profits derived as a result of limiting the amount in the society.
help
05-22-2002, 05:38 PM
That was a very ignorant statement.
I hate to bust your bubble but statistically a vast amount of individuals take up the majority of these positions. If they don't have "full blown " ADD they have ADD tendencies which can be even worse. Most of society has a mental problem in one form or another;although, to neive to see it. This is not through deniel this is due to ignorance and a lack of understanding brain=>behavior.
Most ADD individuals and the vast majority of the professions have ADDers in these jobs in which are:
Cops, military, firemen, entertainers, and many many more in which you count on for your everyday life and saftey.
Most of them don't even know they have it.
ADD individuals are not "unstable" it only CAN happen with major limbic connected emotional issues in their life not a direct symptom of ADD. Most ADD individuals are the first ones on the seen of a disaster without hesitation. It actually stabalizes their mood and frontal lobes in this type of profession. Some ADDers want this as a career some do not.
But for someone to say that they don't believe ADD individuals should be in these posistions well we may have to eliminate a good 60-70% of the military,police force, and firemen, etc.
ALOT of these individuals have this disorder and do not know about it.
Maybe this isn't even a disorder..... Who knows...
Maybe one can change this disorder themselves permanently. The brain is a very powerful tool and yes it is good to get treated for the symptoms at large but DO NOT take what a physician says as the bible... I work in the neurological industry and let me tell you science in this field/the MOST IMPORTANT field is very very very understood and ignorant.
Just remember this quote that will probably never be heard again from the allopathic industry :
It has been verified through scientific exploration that more than 80 percent of all diseases are due to stress and strain that orginate in the mind and reflect on the body.
----American Medical Association
I hate to bust your bubble but statistically a vast amount of individuals take up the majority of these positions. If they don't have "full blown " ADD they have ADD tendencies which can be even worse. Most of society has a mental problem in one form or another;although, to neive to see it. This is not through deniel this is due to ignorance and a lack of understanding brain=>behavior.
Most ADD individuals and the vast majority of the professions have ADDers in these jobs in which are:
Cops, military, firemen, entertainers, and many many more in which you count on for your everyday life and saftey.
Most of them don't even know they have it.
ADD individuals are not "unstable" it only CAN happen with major limbic connected emotional issues in their life not a direct symptom of ADD. Most ADD individuals are the first ones on the seen of a disaster without hesitation. It actually stabalizes their mood and frontal lobes in this type of profession. Some ADDers want this as a career some do not.
But for someone to say that they don't believe ADD individuals should be in these posistions well we may have to eliminate a good 60-70% of the military,police force, and firemen, etc.
ALOT of these individuals have this disorder and do not know about it.
Maybe this isn't even a disorder..... Who knows...
Maybe one can change this disorder themselves permanently. The brain is a very powerful tool and yes it is good to get treated for the symptoms at large but DO NOT take what a physician says as the bible... I work in the neurological industry and let me tell you science in this field/the MOST IMPORTANT field is very very very understood and ignorant.
Just remember this quote that will probably never be heard again from the allopathic industry :
It has been verified through scientific exploration that more than 80 percent of all diseases are due to stress and strain that orginate in the mind and reflect on the body.
----American Medical Association
help
05-22-2002, 05:43 PM
The information is on amino acid supplements are not minimized through western diet as a profitable consipiracy if that's what your referring to. And if they were that would me the holistic industry has a planned economic outcome as well. This supplements are only precursors. Any action done from these is from the body, and not a direct result for consuming a supplement.
Don't believe everything you read....
Your getting false information.
I could go directly into the economical and biochemical aspects of this but I currently do not have time.
Don't believe everything you read....
Your getting false information.
I could go directly into the economical and biochemical aspects of this but I currently do not have time.