The14scott
06-18-2002, 10:47 AM
Hi there
I am so glad I found this board. Blessings to all of you.
i am 26 years old and have run the gamut of going to my doc for back pain. Every time I go there he says it is a muscle or something else. I tried telling him it was sciatica but he said no.
I went to the physiotherapist the other day and she said it looked like a 2 disk thing. I am only given 50 tylenol 3 and the pain is horrible. I am supposed to take 2 every 4 hours and I am running out.
I am going to see a doc in my docs practice tommorow how do I ask for more without looking like I am drug seeking for the worng reasons. I need drugs or I stay in bed!
I am so glad I found this board. Blessings to all of you.
i am 26 years old and have run the gamut of going to my doc for back pain. Every time I go there he says it is a muscle or something else. I tried telling him it was sciatica but he said no.
I went to the physiotherapist the other day and she said it looked like a 2 disk thing. I am only given 50 tylenol 3 and the pain is horrible. I am supposed to take 2 every 4 hours and I am running out.
I am going to see a doc in my docs practice tommorow how do I ask for more without looking like I am drug seeking for the worng reasons. I need drugs or I stay in bed!
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Gabriel
06-18-2002, 02:29 PM
Be honest, and upfront and say how you feel after you take the medication you feel. Say what and how much you can do on the current medication. Also ask about if that much tylenol is bad for your body. Honesty is best!
jane2
06-18-2002, 02:43 PM
I think you should see a specialist or at least have some tests done. Do you need him to approve it? It wouldn't look like you were a drug seeker either if you asked to have you back checked out. Have they done any tests? Mention what the physiotherapist said. Stress how it effects your life and what you symptoms are. Don't stress the drugs other than to say that report on what effect tylenol # 3 have if any.
Is you pain muscle spasm. Shooting pain. Throbbing. All that is important. A muscle relaxer might work better than a pain killer. If it is nerve pain there are other drugs.
You may need another doctor if this guy won't look into it and treat you pain. Both are important. Finding out what is wrong and treating the pain.
Is you pain muscle spasm. Shooting pain. Throbbing. All that is important. A muscle relaxer might work better than a pain killer. If it is nerve pain there are other drugs.
You may need another doctor if this guy won't look into it and treat you pain. Both are important. Finding out what is wrong and treating the pain.
The14scott
06-18-2002, 03:15 PM
Yes it is nerve pain, the physio aid it was most definate sciatica symptoms. i am using a cane right now for the last 48 hours. I asked my doc if there was anyhting longer lasting than T3's and he said no. I can't just ask for anyhting else but I do know oxycocet helped me when i got it in the ER!
jane2
06-18-2002, 06:19 PM
You need a different doctor. There is a post about useful websites for the CP Forum that might be some help in finding a new doctor. I am not sure what sites I am allowed to post here. I think this doctor isn't comfortable giving you more. Plus isn't ordering the right tests.
You can't just say it is nerve. The physio is not a good enough source. You need to see a neuro and maybe an ortho to get real proof. X-Rays, MRIs, EMGs all that. See what they can find wrong with you back. It will help your case. I am sure you are right and so is the physio. Just that the doc won't listen. Plus this doc. may not know how to treat this kind of pain.
You might go to a pain management clinic. They might do the diagnostic work and the pain stuff. They may be able to relieve the pain. Like the PT you are doing and other stuff. Plus better medications for this type of pain.
You can't just say it is nerve. The physio is not a good enough source. You need to see a neuro and maybe an ortho to get real proof. X-Rays, MRIs, EMGs all that. See what they can find wrong with you back. It will help your case. I am sure you are right and so is the physio. Just that the doc won't listen. Plus this doc. may not know how to treat this kind of pain.
You might go to a pain management clinic. They might do the diagnostic work and the pain stuff. They may be able to relieve the pain. Like the PT you are doing and other stuff. Plus better medications for this type of pain.
jane2
06-21-2002, 03:42 PM
How are you doing? I hope you find some answers. I have nerve pain and it is really hard. I know how miserable it can be and it takes a lot to control it. I know T3s wouldn't touch my nerve pain. Hope you find a doctor that gets it.
Neurontin helps. It is an anti-siezure drug that is used for nerve pain. Does effect you memory. Sort of makes the other drugs work better.
I am really sorry they aren't taking this seriously.
Neurontin helps. It is an anti-siezure drug that is used for nerve pain. Does effect you memory. Sort of makes the other drugs work better.
I am really sorry they aren't taking this seriously.
pinecone
06-22-2002, 01:13 AM
If you are a male have the dr do the test for Ankylosing spondylitis. Gene is HLA-B27
This could be your enemy????????ask??push????the DR.
This could be your enemy????????ask??push????the DR.
linda534ss
07-09-2002, 11:38 PM
First off, you need to find a good neurosurgeon. Then, you need to go to a "Pain Management" doctor. Here's what I have posted for people thinking of back surgery:
My overall experience of having an L4-L5 spinal fusion surgery has been successful. Most of this success is finding an excellence surgeon, a patient who is motivated and disciplined enough to follow doctors orders to the "tee" and WALKING. I was diagnosed with a ruptured disc that was pinching a nerve, in January 2002. The first neurosurgeon I went to, put me on oral steroids which didn’t seem to help any and my follow up appointment, he said there’s nothing else he could do for me. I had a second opinion with Dr. John Marouk and he wanted surgery to be the last resort so, he sent me to a "Pain and Evaluation Treatment Clinic”. My first steroid injection in the back helped but within a month, it came back. After almost five months of pain medication such as Oxycontin, steroid injections and other pain injection treatments, nothing seemed to help if anything, it made it worse. At this point, your ready to do anything to get rid of the pain. The next procedure to be done was a pressure test…these are not fun! After getting the results, I went back to my neurosurgeon to discuss surgery. Dr. Marouk then suggested a Spinal Fusion with a bone graft.. He explained every step of the surgery, what he was going to do and what to expect afterwards. In my own words of how the surgery is done---Doctor will take a piece of bone from my hip, bone graft, and will fuse it together with screws and bolts. Since I’m a smoker, an electrical bone growth stimulation was put in to promote healing. To read more information on this, please go to: http://www.askjeeves.com/index.asp and type: What is invasive or noninvasive methods of electrical bone growth stimulation?, then click on the first link: Electrical Bone Growth Stimulators (Osteogenic Stimulation.
My surgery was scheduled for November 14, 2002. A couple of weeks before my surgery, it was hard to get out of bed mentally and physically. The day of my surgery, as they were taking me to the surgery room, I was crying my eyes out. That night, after a four hour long surgery, recovery and waking up in your room, I stood up. The next day I got out of bed and had to drag my right leg to walk. I had to use a walker because of the pinched nerve I had and yes, I was scared to death. However, later on that evening, I was walking with my husbands help and the next day I was using the side rails along the hospital wall. I got to go home on the third day and for the first week at home, you wish you wouldn’t of had the surgery. I feel for anyone having to do this alone and I don’t think I could of made it through all of this if it weren’t for my husband, family and friends. I couldn’t be more happier and pleased with the results and very grateful to my Dr. Marouk. It is so nice to walk pain free.
After three months of having my surgery, I started having pain and there were some exercises that I couldn’t do without hurting. After talking with Dr. Marouk and discussing why I’m hurting during certain exercises, he suggested I have a myleogram…these are not fun either. After getting the results, we found that I had a screw that was close to an artery. Dr. Marouk then suggested having my instruments, screws, bolts and bone stimulator, taken out. On June 20th, 2001, I went in to what was suppose to be an outpatient surgery but ended up staying three days in the hospital. When Dr. Marouk went in to take everything out, he also found that I had a screw loose and a lots of scar tissue. When removing the scar tissue, he couldn’t believe how much I had, it tore a little place in my sack where your spinal fluid is. So now, I’ve been laying in bed, for nine days now, with a spinal fluid leak. It’s getting much better and after talking to Dr. Marouk today, I’m suppose to wear my back brace, take it easy this week and see him on Friday. I’m sure this kind of luck won’t happen to everyone such as, three days before my surgery I was laid off, a month after surgery, I had a slip-n-fall, two months later I had viral meningitis, which took them three spinal taps of getting my fluid to test, having my instruments taken out and a week later, getting laid off again with the same company that hired me back.
I would suggest to anyone to have surgery however, always get a second opinion, ask questions and do some research on the doctor you choose. Even when your in the office for an appointment, ask other patients waiting how their surgery went or what they think of the doctor.
I hope this helps in your decision and if you have any other questions, please let me know.
Thanks and God Bless,
Linda
My overall experience of having an L4-L5 spinal fusion surgery has been successful. Most of this success is finding an excellence surgeon, a patient who is motivated and disciplined enough to follow doctors orders to the "tee" and WALKING. I was diagnosed with a ruptured disc that was pinching a nerve, in January 2002. The first neurosurgeon I went to, put me on oral steroids which didn’t seem to help any and my follow up appointment, he said there’s nothing else he could do for me. I had a second opinion with Dr. John Marouk and he wanted surgery to be the last resort so, he sent me to a "Pain and Evaluation Treatment Clinic”. My first steroid injection in the back helped but within a month, it came back. After almost five months of pain medication such as Oxycontin, steroid injections and other pain injection treatments, nothing seemed to help if anything, it made it worse. At this point, your ready to do anything to get rid of the pain. The next procedure to be done was a pressure test…these are not fun! After getting the results, I went back to my neurosurgeon to discuss surgery. Dr. Marouk then suggested a Spinal Fusion with a bone graft.. He explained every step of the surgery, what he was going to do and what to expect afterwards. In my own words of how the surgery is done---Doctor will take a piece of bone from my hip, bone graft, and will fuse it together with screws and bolts. Since I’m a smoker, an electrical bone growth stimulation was put in to promote healing. To read more information on this, please go to: http://www.askjeeves.com/index.asp and type: What is invasive or noninvasive methods of electrical bone growth stimulation?, then click on the first link: Electrical Bone Growth Stimulators (Osteogenic Stimulation.
My surgery was scheduled for November 14, 2002. A couple of weeks before my surgery, it was hard to get out of bed mentally and physically. The day of my surgery, as they were taking me to the surgery room, I was crying my eyes out. That night, after a four hour long surgery, recovery and waking up in your room, I stood up. The next day I got out of bed and had to drag my right leg to walk. I had to use a walker because of the pinched nerve I had and yes, I was scared to death. However, later on that evening, I was walking with my husbands help and the next day I was using the side rails along the hospital wall. I got to go home on the third day and for the first week at home, you wish you wouldn’t of had the surgery. I feel for anyone having to do this alone and I don’t think I could of made it through all of this if it weren’t for my husband, family and friends. I couldn’t be more happier and pleased with the results and very grateful to my Dr. Marouk. It is so nice to walk pain free.
After three months of having my surgery, I started having pain and there were some exercises that I couldn’t do without hurting. After talking with Dr. Marouk and discussing why I’m hurting during certain exercises, he suggested I have a myleogram…these are not fun either. After getting the results, we found that I had a screw that was close to an artery. Dr. Marouk then suggested having my instruments, screws, bolts and bone stimulator, taken out. On June 20th, 2001, I went in to what was suppose to be an outpatient surgery but ended up staying three days in the hospital. When Dr. Marouk went in to take everything out, he also found that I had a screw loose and a lots of scar tissue. When removing the scar tissue, he couldn’t believe how much I had, it tore a little place in my sack where your spinal fluid is. So now, I’ve been laying in bed, for nine days now, with a spinal fluid leak. It’s getting much better and after talking to Dr. Marouk today, I’m suppose to wear my back brace, take it easy this week and see him on Friday. I’m sure this kind of luck won’t happen to everyone such as, three days before my surgery I was laid off, a month after surgery, I had a slip-n-fall, two months later I had viral meningitis, which took them three spinal taps of getting my fluid to test, having my instruments taken out and a week later, getting laid off again with the same company that hired me back.
I would suggest to anyone to have surgery however, always get a second opinion, ask questions and do some research on the doctor you choose. Even when your in the office for an appointment, ask other patients waiting how their surgery went or what they think of the doctor.
I hope this helps in your decision and if you have any other questions, please let me know.
Thanks and God Bless,
Linda