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wfc33
05-19-2003, 09:12 PM
I suppose I shouldn't be suprised by this, but it is a little disconcerting.

I went to Walmart today to fill my Oxycontin presciption. I had a Drs. appointment last month and filled my script at the hospital pharmacy.So today I'm in Walmart and they say I can't fill my script till at least the 26th, because that's when I filled it at the hospital pharmacy. Granted I had a valid prescription. All I wanted to do is fill it today to save from having to go into town this weekend,(Memorial Day). I've been a customer at this Walmart for years, they know I'm not going out to sell my extras or something.What's a little scary is that Walmart even knew I had filled a script somewhere else. Is there no privacy anymore? Does Walmart know all of our medical info now? I've got enough medicine to last, that's not the problem.But, geez,it's no wonder people gets annoyed. Anyone else been told they can't fill their Oxy early?

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Bless548
05-19-2003, 09:20 PM
If you have insurance that is probably why the walmart knows when you filled the last script. other wise i don't think we are under that much scrutiny yet......but it is possible. I am interested to know if you have insurance for the meds.

grizzk62
05-19-2003, 10:02 PM
wfc,

You do have another problem. Now this may not be the case in the state where you live. But here in Idaho you have to feel a schedule#2 control substance in 7 days from the time it was written or else it's no good. you will have to get another script. It doesn't suprise me that you had a problem. if you have insurance they some time don't allow early refills until you are only with-in a couple days from the time of the month that you last had it filled. They are even tougher on schedule 2s. I hope this helps...

Matt

Jack Beanstalk
05-20-2003, 12:33 AM
I get my scripts filled at wal-mart and they are very strict with DEA policy adherance.If you do have insurance,I,m sure that,s why it was refused.If you don,t have any,I,d like a job app.from wherever it is that you work,if you can afford to pay for Oxy out-of-pocket!(just kidding)If I ain,t mistaken,I believe most places are able to see on their computer if you,ve had a C-2 scrip filled anywhere else in the past 90 days or something like that.It,s not a matter of privacy,it,s a matter of legal adherance.Jack B.

Wes1212
05-20-2003, 01:07 AM
i dont know what authority pharmacy's have in sharing medical information about patients in a network.

it makes sense that they should have some--as long as they are under the same rules of information sharing as the rest of the medical community.

chriztene
05-20-2003, 06:46 AM
I get my prescriptions filled at Eckerd and havent had a problem with getting them filled 4-5 days early. My insurance will allow 4-5 days early in getting them filled, too.

Its funny you guys mention Walmart as a freind of mine just had something similiar happen to her. She waited an hour just to get her meds filled (one person in front of her) and then saw the script was ready and went up to ask the pharmacist if she could pay for it and he advised her it would be another 10 min as he had to get manager approval. My friend went on to say how rude this pharmacist was to her.

Gosh, I cant believe how many people encounter these judgemental pharmacist. Since when did they start writing the rx's. Now, if this isnt descrimination, what is?

Fortunately, I have went to the same pharmacy during all of this so there isnt any problem or questionable looks..

I would advise whomever tried to get it filled at walmart to go to one of the bigger chain pharmacies, otherwise, your prescription is going to expire. This means you are going to have to get another prescription from you doctor. They only last 5 days in the state I am from.

Chriztene
Ps, I have heard the compounding pharmacies are great to deal with, too.

mokita
05-20-2003, 07:37 AM
I just have to pipe in here... I had similar experience in March at Giant Eagle pharmacy... went in 4 days early and they would not fill. When I called my doc, they HAD called in refill... so, I thought it was just the pharmacy being snotty. I finally went IN to doc's office, picked up new script, took it in to pharm but, because it was written for the Same Amount, they said it was EARLY and WOULD NOT fill it :mad: -

The one time I called in, the girl who works the register, NOT the pharmacist, said "this is early, what are you doing, taking TWICE what you're supposed to?" HELLO - none of your business to begin w/ but, NO.. just one extra on some days. I was so ticked.

So.... took prescription over to CVS (which is where I used to go) they told me it they would fill 3 days early, so I still had to wait one day, but, they explained that my insurance company would not fill any sooner :eek: so... another case of the insurance company knowing better than our doctors!!! :mad:

ah, well... sorry for the vent.. but, that ticked me off SO bad... and I was leaving on a bus to go out of town w/ friends... so, didn't get my meds, had 2 pills left and was at mercy of friend who had some, thank God, that I used and replaced after I got home. I felt so dirty the way GE treated me... awful feeling.

Karen

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chriztene
05-20-2003, 10:03 AM
This really tiks me off too! I dont see why, if you have a written rx, the pharmacy will not fill your rx...(with the exception of same meds-different doctors)

I can understand if it's your insurance company, though I agree with another poster, since when did the insurance company know better than the dr??? But, for a pharmacy to refuse to fill a 'written' prescription is rediculous.

All schedule 2's have to be written, so it's obvious you have seen your doctor and he has approved the rx as you have a written prescription in your hand...

For instance, I had my meds increased, well, the doctor wrote me a 'written' rx for the increase to last me until the end of the month. Fortunately, the doctor had written the increase on the rx and the insurance allowed for it to be paid. Otherwise, I would have had to pay for it out of my own pocket.

But, this is just one example if you go into get your medication early. It appears from others' post, the pharmacy would have declined my rx. Again, since when is the pharmacy/pharmacist the one who approves your rx?

Chriztene
I just wanted to ad I am not pharmacist bashing as I believe they have an extremely hard job to do. I never thought of having to determine which prescriptions are real and which arent. I never thought of this until now..I would hate to have that responsiblity.

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zoeyanth
05-20-2003, 10:53 AM
i have something to say and a question. first before i was put on oxy contin i was on loritab, and believe me i know how early you can run out if you take one extra for bad pain. and they do look at you like you are an addict because we are sitting there pretty much doing whatever we can to get it filled. but we must try to get them, i wish i could tell whoever is stopping me from getting them to live in my shoes without them and when they ask for pain meds i will say no. so my dr put me on the oxy and i usualy go 3 to 4 days past my fill date.

and my question- here in florida we have to sign this release packet at the dr's, pharmacy, etc. they say they can release your info to govt. organizations, insurance, etc. this is new just about 2 months ago it started.it is really no big deal, but just thought i would tell you about it.

Has anyone else seen this?

cattys
05-20-2003, 11:05 AM
I am on workman comp and it is ridiculous I can only fill my lortab on the exact day they are to run out. I can not even go 1 day early. I live 1 hour away from the pharmacy (I live in country) So I can not get to town always on the exact time they run out. I told this to ther pharmacist and he couln't give a flying hoot.

cattys

fibrosucks
05-20-2003, 03:42 PM
In most states, if you get your prescriptions through your insurance, it will tell the pharmacist when, where and how much you were given. You bet they watch, and its about to get worse. I have heard about a federal prescription montioring program, which will bascially check everyones records to see if they are double dipping, doctor shopping,diverting meds, etc. I don't like this at all. It is none of the governments business nor the pharmacists business if I have a legal, valid script. Any pharmacist who mentions your use of meds, or implies misuse, should be called under the table. It is none of their business. For example, how many of you have gone to the ER for something painful and they give you some narcotics until you get to your regular doctor. Then a few days later, you go to your regular doc and they give you more. Well, I have had this situation in the past and the pharmacist wouldn't fill the script because I had one filled three days before. Like for 10 vicoden or something. So I told him to call the doctor-and the pharmacist got chewed out. I know they are only covering their ass, but sometimes they like to play doctor.

Also, the insurance companies dictate when you can get refills. If you come in too early, the computer will deny the refill. Sometimes you can pay cash, but sometimes they make you wait. It calulates the number of pills and the directions written on the bottle. So a bottle of 20 vicoden should last five days if you are supposed to take 1 every 8 hours. Get it? Bottom line, the government and insurance companies are trying to practice medicine, and it is wrong. Instead of catching the relatively few people who are abusing prescription drugs, they are casuing chonic pain patients more pain.

Sarah

nix nooks
05-20-2003, 04:00 PM
I think it has to do with the insurance. I went to get my refill of miralax, the laxitive and the CBVS pharmasist said i couldn't get it refilled until the 17th of May. I had just the first one filled on the 6th of May. I think it's because of the insurance. if you want to pay out of pocket you probably could of gotten it filled.
Vicky

Soxy
05-20-2003, 04:25 PM
I think it was the insurance also. One time we were going on vacation and I needed some meds refilled (not pain meds). The insurance company was refusing until my husband put up a big stink about it. I don't take Oxycontin, but where I live you can't get it at any of the pharmacies in the Stop and Shop Supermarkets which are all over the state. They had too many robberies.

zoeyanth
05-20-2003, 05:04 PM
My insurance company has something called vacation fill. I had to get a prescription of oxy 2 weeks early because of going on vacation, and I did not want to get to my destination and no one fill it.So when I got that specail vacation fill my next refill would have been in 6 weeks. I only get 2 vacation fills a year.( have only used it once in 3 years anyway)

If my script was ever a couple days early(which I think happened maybe twice) and they gave me trouble, my dr. could speak to either my pharmacist ot insurance company and it goes through. My insurance company has never over ridden my dr.

automatic
05-20-2003, 05:27 PM
Re: getting prescriptions filled early. One reader said that she/he has been getting prescriptions filled at the same place for years so the pharmacist should know it's not like they are selling the stuff on the streets.

How does the pharmacist know? And what responsibility does the pharmascist have if a patient doubles up meds? If the doctor dated the prescription and the pharmacy fills it early, can they be held responsible for any overdoses?

I have a relative who is so addicted to T3's that it is scary. The medical problem is long gone but she can't shake the need for the pills and has tried to con doctors, pharmacists and family members into helping her get the pills. When a doctor tells her he
will need to see her before he will prescribe, she sends someone to get the prescription and tells them to tell the doctor she was too busy to make the appointment....she doesn't even see what she is doing!

In now way am I suggesting the readers of this message board are like my relative... pain management is crucial. However, I do have a little sympathy for the pharmacist who is reluctant to refill a prescription before it is due.

Jack Beanstalk
05-21-2003, 01:23 AM
In lieu of all the "Oxycontin Bad Press"over the last year or so,a lot of dr.,s and pharmies are gettin edgy and tighter on any controlled drugs,especially C-2,s.I know the laws vary state-to-state,but most anywhere you go,it is inevitably up to the Head-Pharmacist on-Duty,wether or not ANY Rx gets filled,Period.Thank the DEA for that one.I know it puts us true CPer,s in a bind a lot of the time,but you can thank the few "bad apples"out there,like the ones who try to Dr.shop,forge scrips,alter scrips,and all the other crap people try and pull to get their drugs illegally.That crap can cause Dr.,s and Pharmacists to lose their license,their source of income.We can,t blame them for what others have caused them to do.Sure,you,ll see a butthead Dr. or Pharmie that could give us a bit of slack in a pinch and just won,t.They are either just buttheads or they,ve been hardened by all the BS that people try and hand them every day.I do admit,some pharmacies are crappier with service than others,but that,s when you try and find a good one,just like a good Dr.,and stay with em!Excuse the long-windedness,goodnight,Folks!Jack Beanstalk

soccermama
05-23-2003, 10:42 PM
I go to Walgreens and sometimes the Pharmacy at hospital, the insurance by law by state for scheduleII drugs and such are closely monitored! Believe you me I fond it out the hard way once when I was going out of town and wanted the meds early, my insurance lets me 5 days before refill date no sooner! I have had to pay out of pocket, BUT not all places let you do that espically with Oxicontin and percocet.I just have to plan ahead, and make sure I don't run out when they are closed or its to early to refill! ~Mindy

NancyH
05-24-2003, 12:22 AM
Once you have filled a script with any pharmacy you are on the puter network and they can tell what you have filled in the last 3 months. Since my Uncle is a Dr he has said that the medical board is coming down hard about narcotics in particular, too many filled scripts with one particular drug gives them a sort of red light meaning too many and why! My uncle has to justify every drug he prescribs and is adviced from time to time about alternative pain relief. Oxy was the most abused drug when first came out and still is, people who get addicted to it are sometimes unaware they are. Kadian will be next I bet.
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jlynn2974
05-24-2003, 12:51 PM
Please...Please...get on the internet and read about this drug. This is a strong opium based drug with a high dependency use. It is also known as "Hillbilly Herion," PLEASE have your doctor put you on something else!!!!! Fighting pain can be bad enough, but...fighting pain and withdrawal symptoms is twice as enabling. This drug is over marketed and over prescribed. The effects of this drug is very well known!!!! If anything Wal-Mart could have possibly saved you from a very addictive drug.

Pippin31
05-24-2003, 02:38 PM
Narcotics all have potential for addiction, but dependance is different from addiction when it comes to chronic pain patients. At least that’s what I have read on this board and been told by 2 doctors. As for Wal-mart saving a customer from addiction by not giving them their script, that is a load of crap. No offense the one that just posted above me. Wal-mart doesn’t care, it’s just a dollar to them I assure you! They most likely didn’t fill the script because it was going to be filled too soon. It was filled at a different pharmacy first and the way they new that was by running her insurance information. There is no privacy anymore. Read my post titled “sick of the middleman/woman.” Quite a few agree on this topic!

Pippin31
05-24-2003, 02:39 PM
Narcotics all have potential for addiction, but dependance is different from addiction when it comes to chronic pain patients. At least that’s what I have read on this board and been told by 2 doctors. As for Wal-mart saving a customer from addiction by not giving them their script, that is a load of crap. No offense the one that just posted above me. Wal-mart doesn’t care, it’s just a dollar to them I assure you! They most likely didn’t fill the script because it was going to be filled too soon. It was filled at a different pharmacy first and the way they new that was by running her insurance information. There is no privacy anymore. Read my post titled “sick of the middleman/woman.” Quite a few agree on this topic!

jlynn2974
05-28-2003, 04:03 PM
It really doesn't matter which Pharmacy you use to fill your prescription. Once you are in the computer system, all Pharmacies have access to that information. It is not so much about privacy, but keeping track of prescription drugs. Oxy is a dependent drug, so the pharmacies have to follow certain rules and state regulations.





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