LouiseM
10-21-2003, 05:15 PM
I was just wondering, I just got back from the PM and she gave me a script for Hydrocoden is this the same as Loratab?
Thanks guys
Louise
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Poo2
10-21-2003, 05:56 PM
Yes it is. Hydrocodone is usually 5/500. Loratab is 10/325 and Loracet is 10/500 or it may be the other way around but yes it is the same thing but not as strong.
igy76
10-21-2003, 06:52 PM
Hi Louise,
Hydrodocone is just simply the base, main ingredient in all of these things: Vicodin 5/500; Lorcet 10/650; Norco 10/325; Lortab 10/500; Vicodin HP 10/500, etc... there are a few more too. They're all just varied brand name types. Whatever of these the doc gives you, if the pharmacy gives you generic (which you should request if you've got half a brain ;), because there's no difference in quality), the bottle's going to say Hydrocodone "# of mgs"/ Apap (tylenol) # of mgs". It just depends on the amount or strength you get per pill, combined with how much tylenol in each dose (ultimately, the best combination you can have is 10/325... it's max dose of hydrocodone in one pill (I don't think there's a 15) and it's the least amount of tylenol - good for the liver :). That is, just talking about the opioid/tylenol combinations, of course there's quite a few tylenol free relievers out there too. Hope this helps :)
Hydrodocone is just simply the base, main ingredient in all of these things: Vicodin 5/500; Lorcet 10/650; Norco 10/325; Lortab 10/500; Vicodin HP 10/500, etc... there are a few more too. They're all just varied brand name types. Whatever of these the doc gives you, if the pharmacy gives you generic (which you should request if you've got half a brain ;), because there's no difference in quality), the bottle's going to say Hydrocodone "# of mgs"/ Apap (tylenol) # of mgs". It just depends on the amount or strength you get per pill, combined with how much tylenol in each dose (ultimately, the best combination you can have is 10/325... it's max dose of hydrocodone in one pill (I don't think there's a 15) and it's the least amount of tylenol - good for the liver :). That is, just talking about the opioid/tylenol combinations, of course there's quite a few tylenol free relievers out there too. Hope this helps :)
LouiseM
10-21-2003, 10:24 PM
Thanks I think it is 7.5?
HockeyCrystal
10-21-2003, 10:26 PM
7.5 is the amount of hydrocodone in it...if it has 325 or 500 or something after the 7.5, that is the amount of acetaminopehn in it in addition to the hydrocodone. Lortab and hydrocodone and vicodin and all of that are all the same things....They all just have hydrocodone in them... The generic would be named "hydrocodone" rather than lortab or norco or vicodin or anything like that.... Hope that made some sorta sense...
chrpps99
10-22-2003, 12:28 AM
You got it Hockey Crystal,
Hydrocodone is generic for Lortab, Lorcet, Vicodin, Norco, That's the only difference and they all come in 5, 7.5, and 10 Hydrocodone, and 325, 500, 650, and 750 acetaminiphin. Why any one would want the higher tylenol is beyond me since it is so harsh on the liver, but that is how high it goes. That I am aware of anyway. So I just wanted to say you were right!!
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Sonya
Hydrocodone is generic for Lortab, Lorcet, Vicodin, Norco, That's the only difference and they all come in 5, 7.5, and 10 Hydrocodone, and 325, 500, 650, and 750 acetaminiphin. Why any one would want the higher tylenol is beyond me since it is so harsh on the liver, but that is how high it goes. That I am aware of anyway. So I just wanted to say you were right!!
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Take Care
Less Pain Wishes
Sonya
LouiseM
10-23-2003, 04:50 PM
Thank you so much everyone for all your responses!!
I am on 7.5/700? Yet, I am still getting breakthrough, and it seems I don't get a lot of relief. Is this common? Others would take it and be knocked out for the day right? I am just wondering why I have such a high tolerence to it?
Thanks everyone,
LouiseM
The other thing is am I being a baby? I have sciatica, and a few bulging discs and endometriosis?
Everyone seems to have so many other illnesses/injuries I hate to even complain!!
Thanks everyone you all have been very helpful!
I am on 7.5/700? Yet, I am still getting breakthrough, and it seems I don't get a lot of relief. Is this common? Others would take it and be knocked out for the day right? I am just wondering why I have such a high tolerence to it?
Thanks everyone,
LouiseM
The other thing is am I being a baby? I have sciatica, and a few bulging discs and endometriosis?
Everyone seems to have so many other illnesses/injuries I hate to even complain!!
Thanks everyone you all have been very helpful!
igy76
10-23-2003, 05:09 PM
Louise,
I think maybe you mean to say it's 7.5/750 you have there, which is generic Vicodin ES. (Personally, I'd feel that's unfortunate for you, Vicodin ES is my least favorite short acting med, only because it's the one that comes with the most tylenol per pill). I'm not sure how many a day you're taking, but be careful, as you don't want to take more than 4000mgs of tylenol in 24hrs (well taking that in a day won't kill you obviously, but doing that much continuously will harm your liver, or even taking as much as 3500mgs or so continuously too). So, as a rule, you really only want to be taking 5 of those a day at most to be in a safer range.
And you may have heard this before, and you'll most certainly hear it again - everyone reacts differently to everything (in response to your ? about being knocked out). I used to work with a guy, he is 6-1, about 190 and two regular Vicodins would have him pretty much down for the count. I'm a mere 5-9, 160, and they have the reverse effect on me, they actually kind of energize me.
And finally in regards to why you're so tolerant, that's completely dependant upon how long you've been on these meds, which that I don't think you've mentioned. Obviously the longer it is, the higher tolerance you have.... Aye there's the rub, when it comes to opiate analgesics, there's no ceiling to the dosage. Hope this helps
I think maybe you mean to say it's 7.5/750 you have there, which is generic Vicodin ES. (Personally, I'd feel that's unfortunate for you, Vicodin ES is my least favorite short acting med, only because it's the one that comes with the most tylenol per pill). I'm not sure how many a day you're taking, but be careful, as you don't want to take more than 4000mgs of tylenol in 24hrs (well taking that in a day won't kill you obviously, but doing that much continuously will harm your liver, or even taking as much as 3500mgs or so continuously too). So, as a rule, you really only want to be taking 5 of those a day at most to be in a safer range.
And you may have heard this before, and you'll most certainly hear it again - everyone reacts differently to everything (in response to your ? about being knocked out). I used to work with a guy, he is 6-1, about 190 and two regular Vicodins would have him pretty much down for the count. I'm a mere 5-9, 160, and they have the reverse effect on me, they actually kind of energize me.
And finally in regards to why you're so tolerant, that's completely dependant upon how long you've been on these meds, which that I don't think you've mentioned. Obviously the longer it is, the higher tolerance you have.... Aye there's the rub, when it comes to opiate analgesics, there's no ceiling to the dosage. Hope this helps
LouiseM
10-23-2003, 05:30 PM
Yes thank you. See, that is the thing I have only taken vicodine in the past maybe 4 times (30 tablets) I made them last, and that was 6 months ago?
So, I am at a loss on that.
The other thing, can the meds give you panic attacks? At night I feel like I might have one. I never really do, but was wondering if it might be the medication?
Just a thought,
and thanks everyone again!!!!!
LouiseM
So, I am at a loss on that.
The other thing, can the meds give you panic attacks? At night I feel like I might have one. I never really do, but was wondering if it might be the medication?
Just a thought,
and thanks everyone again!!!!!
LouiseM
NaeNae
01-06-2004, 05:05 PM
I'm reading this old thread, trying to educate myself on the difference in all the pain meds. I obviously want the least amount of Tylenol (which I have with Norco 10/325), but will more Tylenol help with pain relief any? And where does Percocet come into all of this? This thread was enormously helpful, thank you.
wirry1422
01-06-2004, 08:03 PM
I personally don't think taking a hydrocodone pill with more apap (tylenol) will offer any more pain relief than a pill with a lower apap and the same amount of hydrocodone. In addition, increasing your apap intake will greatly increase your chances of long term liver damage that can be very serious. If you truely want more pain relief, you will have to increase your hydrocodone intake. For example, if you are taking vicodin 5/325, and it is inadequate, increase to vicodin 7.5/325 or to 10/325, rather than changing to vicodin 5/500. I hope that example helps you to understand what i mean. Percocet fits into the picture in that it is a preparation much like vicodin with tylenol and a narcotic. The difference being that the narcotic is oxycodone instead of hydrocodone. Oxycodone is generally somewhat stronger than hydrocodone, between 20-40% stronger milligram for milligram (however the difference can vary greatly from person to person). Oxycodone is also a schedule II narcotic, while hydrocodone is a schedule III narcotic (in most states) This means that for products containing oxycodone, including percocet, you are not allowed refills without a written perscription, the doctor cannot call the script in, you must fill the script within seven days of the date it was written, but not within 30 days of a prior prescription for the same product, or it is invalid; and it is just generally more regulated. Percocet comes in generic, and it comes in preparations similiar to vicodin including, 2.5/325, 2.5/500, 5/325, 5/550, 7.5/325, 7.5/650, 10/325, 10/650. Don't let the schedule II status of the drug scare you, it is more of a minor inconvenience than anything else, and many people find percocet to be more effective than vicodin. In fact percocet is the next logical step, once vicodin has failed. Take care.
NaeNae
01-06-2004, 11:33 PM
Thank you so much! That is the answer I needed perfectly!
Now I see the reason when I read like those in Hollywood getting addicted to Oxy. I used to be on Oxycontin Extended Release (can't remember the correct name) and I kept thinking, "Why does everyone keep getting addicted to this?" because I didn't feel anything. Now I see, that it's really Percocet. I have got my facts straight, thank you again!
Now I see the reason when I read like those in Hollywood getting addicted to Oxy. I used to be on Oxycontin Extended Release (can't remember the correct name) and I kept thinking, "Why does everyone keep getting addicted to this?" because I didn't feel anything. Now I see, that it's really Percocet. I have got my facts straight, thank you again!
wirry1422
01-07-2004, 10:35 PM
Actually you were on oxycodone extended release, which IS in fact known as Oxycontin. With the strongest dose of oxycodone in a Percocet tablet being 10 mg, you can see why oxycontin is so appealing to addicts. Oxycontin has no apap to od on, and the weakest oxycontin tablet is 10 mg! It ranges in strengths of 10, 20, 40, and 80 mg tablets, which is mighty potent- one 80 mg tab is equal to eight of the strongest percocets available. They used to make a 160 mg tablet, but the government forced them (purdue pharma) to pull it off the market. Take care.
boaz
01-10-2004, 03:58 PM
HC,
:eek: Good Heavens girl!! My hats off to you, you have been thru the wringer and attending school on top of it!!! My best friend is in similar situations as you, except she's 39, with three kids to jugle, and she has alot of pain.
You are an inspiration!!! way to go and good luck with everything!!!
:wave:
:eek: Good Heavens girl!! My hats off to you, you have been thru the wringer and attending school on top of it!!! My best friend is in similar situations as you, except she's 39, with three kids to jugle, and she has alot of pain.
You are an inspiration!!! way to go and good luck with everything!!!
:wave:
carleen59
01-25-2005, 01:52 PM
i wonder if someone can help me. I had knee replacement surgery in August of 2003 and have been on Loracet plus 7.5 since then. I only need to take 1 pill a day which is usually at 2am when i wake up from the pain in my knee.
My doctor thinks i've been on these too long which he knows i only take 1 a day and now i am going on 2-3 hours a sleep a day due to pain. I've been on weight watchers for a year and have lost 96 pounds which i figured would help me with my knee since i'm not carrying all that weight around. I ride my bike 130 minutes a day which really helps me NOT to need more pain pills because it helps with the arthritis that has developed in my knee. He has called in a rx for Darvacet which is NOT helping. I own my own business and can't stop during the day to ice my knee like he wants me to do. So i've been looking on the internet to see if i can just order the pills i need, does anyone have any idea's? I feel he wants to open my knee up again and clean out the arthritis but now is not a good time for me to be in bed for 3 weeks. Any idea's? I think he thinks i will be addicted to them after 17 months, well 1 a day i think is better then a stroke or heart attack i am at a high risk for on 2-3 hours a sleep a day.
My doctor thinks i've been on these too long which he knows i only take 1 a day and now i am going on 2-3 hours a sleep a day due to pain. I've been on weight watchers for a year and have lost 96 pounds which i figured would help me with my knee since i'm not carrying all that weight around. I ride my bike 130 minutes a day which really helps me NOT to need more pain pills because it helps with the arthritis that has developed in my knee. He has called in a rx for Darvacet which is NOT helping. I own my own business and can't stop during the day to ice my knee like he wants me to do. So i've been looking on the internet to see if i can just order the pills i need, does anyone have any idea's? I feel he wants to open my knee up again and clean out the arthritis but now is not a good time for me to be in bed for 3 weeks. Any idea's? I think he thinks i will be addicted to them after 17 months, well 1 a day i think is better then a stroke or heart attack i am at a high risk for on 2-3 hours a sleep a day.
tkgoodspirit
01-25-2005, 03:29 PM
Hi all; wirry1422 explained it very well. Hydrocodone and Oxycodone are the "killers" in the painkiller. The number after the slash is merely the amount of tylenol.
My pharmacist recommended a med to me when I was wondering about taking the tylenol,I only take 10/325 4x daily of Perc for bt pain, but was still wondering. He told me about a med called "Vicoprofen" which is like Vicodin but with Ibuprofen in it instead. So that may be something you may want to inquire about.
Don't we have some "smart sallies" on this board? Oh, and not to leave out the guys: "smart sam's" !!!!! :)
Pain stinks, but for most of us here, it seems to have made itself at home in our bodies!
tk
My pharmacist recommended a med to me when I was wondering about taking the tylenol,I only take 10/325 4x daily of Perc for bt pain, but was still wondering. He told me about a med called "Vicoprofen" which is like Vicodin but with Ibuprofen in it instead. So that may be something you may want to inquire about.
Don't we have some "smart sallies" on this board? Oh, and not to leave out the guys: "smart sam's" !!!!! :)
Pain stinks, but for most of us here, it seems to have made itself at home in our bodies!
tk