Overdrive
05-14-2003, 07:36 AM
The first time I saw the shadow being (1998), I was a leader in my university, about to go to sleep, when I sensed another being in my room. I became paranoid, and looked towards my door, when I saw the being. I leaped into bed, and, within moments, I felt a sensation pushing me down. The more I struggled to get up, the more the being pushed down. Then I stopped breathing (or so I think) for a minute or so.
Since then, I felt increasingly that I was being watched or followed. I believed that people around me were a threat, and that I was always being judged. In 2000, I went into a severe depression (suicidal). This was caused in part by the fact that the shadows had become permanent (I experienced mine as a single being, covered with a dark cloak and piercing eyes). Unlike 1998, though, I started to hear this being speak to me (but never loud, always softly). I was only certain that I was hearing voices when I came out of a stupor to find a breadknife in my hand, and my wrists bleeding - I was acting on what the voice was telling me to do. This freaked me out, of course!
(I do recall that in 2001 my wife (then a girlfriend) would tell me I was doing several wierd things, of which I have no recollection - such as mumbling, scribbling strange words and drawing pictures that had no real meaning to her at least). I would go to certain places and feel icy cold, when in fact it was a hot day. In one incident I sat in a church and believed that the cleaners were not really cleaning the church, but in fact were watching me. I stormed out in anger at what I perceived to be their impetuosity.
In 2001, the voices subsided, and I stopped seeing that particular being. However, I remained suspicious of most people, and felt I was being judged and condemned (this has to do with major negative incidents that occurred at that time). I was, and am still not, on medication, even though I have recently been prescribed seroquel.
The situation remained the same for most of 2002. Mid 2002 I got married, and at the end of the year, I became severely depressed again. I went to see a psychologist, who advised me to see a psychiatrist who, after a few sessions, prescribed seroquel (which is an antipschotic normally used to treat sz, but can be used to treat BP). She never told me her official diagnosis, although she hinted that she thought I wasn't sz, but merely a manic depressive.
I tried explaining what happened in 1998 and 2000 to my Mom, but she was utterly dismissive, telling me not to talk crazy - that it was just depression. But the thing is, I know what I saw and heard! I am in no doubt about it. It is very real for me. I am concerned that, if it was sz in 1998 and 2000, what if I have a relapse? It is now 5 months after I last saw my psych, and I haven't used the prescription. The symptoms are becoming worse now - almost suddenly? I am as depressed as I was in 2000, and I am suspicious of everyone. I am often angry, and no longer know who I am. I am petrified of my future, and, although I still have the prescription slip, I am afraid of rejection, and what others will think if I'm on such medication (especially my Mom, who relies on me - she's also depressed). But I have a constant LOUD humming noise always in my mind, have begun staring catatonically for hours at a time, and keep looking over my back, expecting to be harmed. I'm not really seeing images at the moment, but have thought that the lampshade had become a human being (although I realised after a while it was what it is!). Any suggestions? And advice on the seroquel? (I'm afraid of side effects too)
Since then, I felt increasingly that I was being watched or followed. I believed that people around me were a threat, and that I was always being judged. In 2000, I went into a severe depression (suicidal). This was caused in part by the fact that the shadows had become permanent (I experienced mine as a single being, covered with a dark cloak and piercing eyes). Unlike 1998, though, I started to hear this being speak to me (but never loud, always softly). I was only certain that I was hearing voices when I came out of a stupor to find a breadknife in my hand, and my wrists bleeding - I was acting on what the voice was telling me to do. This freaked me out, of course!
(I do recall that in 2001 my wife (then a girlfriend) would tell me I was doing several wierd things, of which I have no recollection - such as mumbling, scribbling strange words and drawing pictures that had no real meaning to her at least). I would go to certain places and feel icy cold, when in fact it was a hot day. In one incident I sat in a church and believed that the cleaners were not really cleaning the church, but in fact were watching me. I stormed out in anger at what I perceived to be their impetuosity.
In 2001, the voices subsided, and I stopped seeing that particular being. However, I remained suspicious of most people, and felt I was being judged and condemned (this has to do with major negative incidents that occurred at that time). I was, and am still not, on medication, even though I have recently been prescribed seroquel.
The situation remained the same for most of 2002. Mid 2002 I got married, and at the end of the year, I became severely depressed again. I went to see a psychologist, who advised me to see a psychiatrist who, after a few sessions, prescribed seroquel (which is an antipschotic normally used to treat sz, but can be used to treat BP). She never told me her official diagnosis, although she hinted that she thought I wasn't sz, but merely a manic depressive.
I tried explaining what happened in 1998 and 2000 to my Mom, but she was utterly dismissive, telling me not to talk crazy - that it was just depression. But the thing is, I know what I saw and heard! I am in no doubt about it. It is very real for me. I am concerned that, if it was sz in 1998 and 2000, what if I have a relapse? It is now 5 months after I last saw my psych, and I haven't used the prescription. The symptoms are becoming worse now - almost suddenly? I am as depressed as I was in 2000, and I am suspicious of everyone. I am often angry, and no longer know who I am. I am petrified of my future, and, although I still have the prescription slip, I am afraid of rejection, and what others will think if I'm on such medication (especially my Mom, who relies on me - she's also depressed). But I have a constant LOUD humming noise always in my mind, have begun staring catatonically for hours at a time, and keep looking over my back, expecting to be harmed. I'm not really seeing images at the moment, but have thought that the lampshade had become a human being (although I realised after a while it was what it is!). Any suggestions? And advice on the seroquel? (I'm afraid of side effects too)
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pillpopper
05-14-2003, 03:21 PM
i was kinda psychotic.
i take seroquel 400mg a night. No side-effects (i'm scared off them too, and i also often want to stop taking seroquel, although it has for me no side-effects). I'm not sure if it really helps. I quit taking it a lot. Once for 3 months and everything went very fine. Then i didn't feel very clear and i took it again. I just quit again for some weeks. But my main problem is: i get blurred, my mind is ok. but my eyes are not clear, sharp... now i take seroquel again. I don't know
i take seroquel 400mg a night. No side-effects (i'm scared off them too, and i also often want to stop taking seroquel, although it has for me no side-effects). I'm not sure if it really helps. I quit taking it a lot. Once for 3 months and everything went very fine. Then i didn't feel very clear and i took it again. I just quit again for some weeks. But my main problem is: i get blurred, my mind is ok. but my eyes are not clear, sharp... now i take seroquel again. I don't know
arebe
05-14-2003, 04:27 PM
seroquel has the lowest side effects profile for any drug used to treat schizophrenia. I wish my doctor would have prescribed me seroquel, instead I'm on risperdal. The first encounter with your 'shadow being' sounds kind of like a case of sleep paralysis. Lots of people who have sleep paralysis often experience a presence in the room and a being pushing them and holding them down to where they can't move at all. Were you starting to fall asleep when you had your first encounter with the being? Judging from what you have written it seems like you have something more than just bi-polar. I too was first diagnosed with bi-polar when I was 17 now I'm 22 and I hear voices in my head. My doctor hasn't given me a diagnosis but I'm guessing that it's schizophrenia because it's the only mental illness where one hears voices chronically. Hope this helps in some way.
Overdrive
05-14-2003, 05:38 PM
Hi there Arebe! Thanks for your reply. What exactly do you know about seroquel? I've been to the sites, but how does it compare with zyprexa, for example? What are the differences? Regarding sleep paralysis, no I don't think so. I had been sleeping okay at that time, and was feeling fine. I was NOT 'starting to fall asleep' - on the contrary, I was wide awake, praying, when I sensed this other presence in my room. Freaked out, I jumped into bed (the only place I felt secure in). So no, I was very much awake!
What do you advise me to do now? I was thinking of using the prescription, and seeing how I felt after the prescribed 2 weeks. If I felt it was helping, I thought I might go back to the psych and follow up. If it didn't work, there's no harm, and I just stop and think of another solution. Or - should I go see the psych first and see if her diagnosis alters now (after all, it has been 5 months since I last saw her)? I am scared of rejection and what family might think etc. I am very confused right now. More than anything, I just feel so damn strange - like I don't fit in here. I don't care about anything really, and find the voices rather entertaining, to be honest! A bright spark in an otherwise dull day. The mood swings are so much worse, though, and that is scaring me. I just can't help myself (which I know is no excuse). I was feeling GREAT only an hour ago - and now I feel terrible again. I HATE IT! From what I've read, though, I think you understand where I'm at, which is such a relief - although I am sorry for what you are going through too. It ain't easy for either of us!
[This message has been edited by Overdrive (edited 05-14-2003).]
What do you advise me to do now? I was thinking of using the prescription, and seeing how I felt after the prescribed 2 weeks. If I felt it was helping, I thought I might go back to the psych and follow up. If it didn't work, there's no harm, and I just stop and think of another solution. Or - should I go see the psych first and see if her diagnosis alters now (after all, it has been 5 months since I last saw her)? I am scared of rejection and what family might think etc. I am very confused right now. More than anything, I just feel so damn strange - like I don't fit in here. I don't care about anything really, and find the voices rather entertaining, to be honest! A bright spark in an otherwise dull day. The mood swings are so much worse, though, and that is scaring me. I just can't help myself (which I know is no excuse). I was feeling GREAT only an hour ago - and now I feel terrible again. I HATE IT! From what I've read, though, I think you understand where I'm at, which is such a relief - although I am sorry for what you are going through too. It ain't easy for either of us!
[This message has been edited by Overdrive (edited 05-14-2003).]
arebe
05-15-2003, 12:05 AM
Seroquel has a better side effects profile than zyprexa. Zyprexa's main side effect is weight gain, which is not a problem with seroquel. try reading the news section on this websight
http://www.docguide.com/news/content.nsf/PatientResAllCateg/Schizophrenia?OpenDocument#News
and alos the med profiles on this sight
http://www.ucdmc.ucdavis.edu/ucdhs/health/a-z/47Schizophrenia/doc47specificdrugs.html
If I were in your shoes I would either a)take a chance and try the medication, it might work, it might not, it definitely can't make matters worse, inside your head that is. or b) go see your pdoc and follow up with her/him
hope this helps, and you're right it ain't easy.
http://www.docguide.com/news/content.nsf/PatientResAllCateg/Schizophrenia?OpenDocument#News
and alos the med profiles on this sight
http://www.ucdmc.ucdavis.edu/ucdhs/health/a-z/47Schizophrenia/doc47specificdrugs.html
If I were in your shoes I would either a)take a chance and try the medication, it might work, it might not, it definitely can't make matters worse, inside your head that is. or b) go see your pdoc and follow up with her/him
hope this helps, and you're right it ain't easy.

