xaphania
10-28-2002, 05:08 PM
i just have some questions about bc pills. i want to start taking them, but there's no way i can tell my dad that. do i have to go to my doctor? because this would be a problem. so that's my first question: how can i get them?
second, how long do i need to have been taking them for them to prevent pregnancy? in other words, how long before i have sex do i need to start? if i miss one, would i have to wait that same amount of time again before they'll work?
any other information would be very much appreciated :)
second, how long do i need to have been taking them for them to prevent pregnancy? in other words, how long before i have sex do i need to start? if i miss one, would i have to wait that same amount of time again before they'll work?
any other information would be very much appreciated :)
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Blastoff9600
10-28-2002, 06:50 PM
You can go to your regular doctor and he/she cant say anything to your dad. You can also go to a planned parenthood clinic or a health clinci and get them. No matter who you go to you will need to get a pap exam and talk to the person about your family hisotry so he/she know what proper birth control to put you on.
Also you need to make your partner use a condom no matter how long you have been on the pill. The pill wont protect you from stds and the pill can fail no matter how perfectly you take it. Your doctor or such can explain in detail about missing pills and such. That is another reason condoms are so important.
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Also you need to make your partner use a condom no matter how long you have been on the pill. The pill wont protect you from stds and the pill can fail no matter how perfectly you take it. Your doctor or such can explain in detail about missing pills and such. That is another reason condoms are so important.
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wrin
10-28-2002, 07:45 PM
Go to the doctor, get put on them. If your dad asks you what they're for, give any number of reasons, ranging from terrible terrible cramps that you didn't feel like detailing because he's a guy and it makes you uncomfortable or regulating your period or some other retarded reason.
Lots of chicks take BCP without using them for sex.
Lots of chicks take BCP without using them for sex.
Dramaqueen
10-31-2002, 05:19 PM
Yeah tell your dad its for your skin, or your cramps have been getting worse or your periods are very irregular and he'll probablly be quite happy to take you along to get some if it will shut you up! Lol.
If you don't want to tell your dad anything, your doctor is not legally allowed to say anything so don't fret!
I know hundreds of people on the pill (including myself) and not one of them (including me again) has had to have a pap exam.-Could that just be cos its an american thing though?
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If you don't want to tell your dad anything, your doctor is not legally allowed to say anything so don't fret!
I know hundreds of people on the pill (including myself) and not one of them (including me again) has had to have a pap exam.-Could that just be cos its an american thing though?
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xaphania
10-31-2002, 11:58 PM
i don't think having a pap for bcp's is an american thing..my friend is on them (for acne) and i'm pretty sure she woulda mentioned that when we were talking about it. but then, i could be wrong.
anyway, you're all telling me to go to the doctor. this means i'll have to schedule an actual appointment, yes? so i'll need my dad to know about it ahead of time, and i have a really really hard time asking him about stuff. i can't ever see myself telling him i want a doctor's appointment for something like cramps or acne. as for planned parenthood, what's that all about? i've heard of it obviously, but i know nothing about it. any information at all would be helpful.
anyway, you're all telling me to go to the doctor. this means i'll have to schedule an actual appointment, yes? so i'll need my dad to know about it ahead of time, and i have a really really hard time asking him about stuff. i can't ever see myself telling him i want a doctor's appointment for something like cramps or acne. as for planned parenthood, what's that all about? i've heard of it obviously, but i know nothing about it. any information at all would be helpful.
mlgable
11-01-2002, 01:00 PM
Look in the yellow pages for planned parenthood. They are a clinic/program that specializes in birth control as well as pregnancy ifo for people of all ages especially teens and younger women. Call them up and set up an appointment. As for the comment about pap smears being an american thing........if you are sexually active or 18 or older you should have annual pap tests/pelvic exams to check for problems. I was over 18 when I starte BC so I am not sure if that is always done or not but it should be as it will pinpoint if there are any female problems already present so that they can be dealt with right away.
GoodGirlNow
11-01-2002, 01:27 PM
They will probably do a pap test the first time and a pregnancy test to make sure you are not pregnant before you start (unless you have never had sex).
Also if you are over 14 (well in canada anyway thats how it is) then your file will be confidential and your parents wont know.
Before you start taking the pill they will tell you to wait until your period has just finished so that you start taking them at the beginning of a cycle. They will be effective as soon as you start taking them.
Also if you are over 14 (well in canada anyway thats how it is) then your file will be confidential and your parents wont know.
Before you start taking the pill they will tell you to wait until your period has just finished so that you start taking them at the beginning of a cycle. They will be effective as soon as you start taking them.
GoodGirlNow
11-01-2002, 01:28 PM
oh and why would you have to to tell your dad you need an appointment? pick up the phone and go girl!
xaphania
11-01-2002, 07:03 PM
Originally posted by GoodGirlNow:
oh and why would you have to to tell your dad you need an appointment? pick up the phone and go girl!
because i don't have my lisense, so i can't go anywhere without him knowing.
oh and why would you have to to tell your dad you need an appointment? pick up the phone and go girl!
because i don't have my lisense, so i can't go anywhere without him knowing.
Elret
11-02-2002, 12:30 AM
I would suggest that you tell your dad that they're for cramps, and that way if he ever found them for any reason it wouldn't be a big shock for him.
wrin
11-02-2002, 03:07 PM
Originally posted by GoodGirlNow:
They will probably do a pap test the first time and a pregnancy test to make sure you are not pregnant before you start (unless you have never had sex).
Also if you are over 14 (well in canada anyway thats how it is) then your file will be confidential and your parents wont know.
NO, NO NO.
In Canada your doctor is LEGALLY BOUND to not tell your parents ANYTHING if you don't want him to. It's a question of medical ethics, and if your doctor divulges information without your permission, you can report him to the medical authority and he can LOSE HIS JOB. This goes for EVERY healthcare worker, from the lowliest nursing attendant to the most experienced specialist. THE RULES ARE THE SAME. PATIENT CONFIDENTIALITY IS UNIVERSAL. Then again, if you take your parent in with you to the doctor, your permission is implied regarding that visit.
I know that in Canada they don't like to do a Pap exam until you've become sexually active. It's a mildly uncomfortable procedure, and with someone who hasn't broken their hymen yet it will break it. And that can be very uncomfortable. That's all I know about paps -- they don't really like for chicks to start getting them 'till they're 18 or sexually active.
They will probably do a pap test the first time and a pregnancy test to make sure you are not pregnant before you start (unless you have never had sex).
Also if you are over 14 (well in canada anyway thats how it is) then your file will be confidential and your parents wont know.
NO, NO NO.
In Canada your doctor is LEGALLY BOUND to not tell your parents ANYTHING if you don't want him to. It's a question of medical ethics, and if your doctor divulges information without your permission, you can report him to the medical authority and he can LOSE HIS JOB. This goes for EVERY healthcare worker, from the lowliest nursing attendant to the most experienced specialist. THE RULES ARE THE SAME. PATIENT CONFIDENTIALITY IS UNIVERSAL. Then again, if you take your parent in with you to the doctor, your permission is implied regarding that visit.
I know that in Canada they don't like to do a Pap exam until you've become sexually active. It's a mildly uncomfortable procedure, and with someone who hasn't broken their hymen yet it will break it. And that can be very uncomfortable. That's all I know about paps -- they don't really like for chicks to start getting them 'till they're 18 or sexually active.
Dramaqueen
11-02-2002, 06:25 PM
I don't mean you shouldn't have a pap exam, but theres no need for one when you first go on the pill unless you've had sex previously.
"No matter who you go to you will need to get a pap exam"-Thats not true unless you've had sex already.
Just clearing that up.
"No matter who you go to you will need to get a pap exam"-Thats not true unless you've had sex already.
Just clearing that up.
xaphania
11-02-2002, 08:58 PM
ok good, i don't want to have my pap just yet. i'm only 16, and i didn't think i'd need it until i was 18! or, until i'm sexually active, but i'm still a virgin and i will be for a while, and i want to wait as long as i can for the pap. it scares me :P
wrin
11-03-2002, 07:27 PM
so if you're not taking them because you're sexually active, why are you so worried about your dad?
Your doctor might want to do a pap anyway if there's a history of cervical cancer in your family because the pill is known to make cancers like that worse.
it's not really that terrible. Just uncomfortable.
Your doctor might want to do a pap anyway if there's a history of cervical cancer in your family because the pill is known to make cancers like that worse.
it's not really that terrible. Just uncomfortable.
mlgable
11-04-2002, 11:21 AM
A pap test is not uncomfortable. If it is uncomfortable or causes pain then they are not doing it right. I know many of us have posted this before but it really needs to be repeated since so many posters still say it is uncomfortable or a little discomfort. Not true at all.
Blastoff9600
11-04-2002, 05:08 PM
In the USA when one goes to get on birth control then a pap exam is normally given. I know years ago when I wanted to go on BC and wasnt sexually active yet I still had to get an exam done.
It is just a part of the routine when getting on birth control. Granted other countries are different but that is how it goes here.
Also like Mlgable said it is not that bad to go through. If it hurts or is uncomfortable then say something to the doctor because they are doing something wrong.
Honestly it is for your own health that they are done. One of my dearest friends has had to have them since she was 13(she has endo) and she stayed a virgin until she was 16. There is nothing to be scared of.
It is just a part of the routine when getting on birth control. Granted other countries are different but that is how it goes here.
Also like Mlgable said it is not that bad to go through. If it hurts or is uncomfortable then say something to the doctor because they are doing something wrong.
Honestly it is for your own health that they are done. One of my dearest friends has had to have them since she was 13(she has endo) and she stayed a virgin until she was 16. There is nothing to be scared of.
xaphania
11-04-2002, 08:44 PM
hah nothing to be scared of? no matter how painless and comfortable they make it for me, there's no way i'll actually be *comfortable* with someone (other than The One I Love) putting their fingers into me..plus the idea of a metal speculum..:shudder: i understand it's not that bad, but i can't help being scared of it.
the reason i want to go on birth control is because i *might* lose my virginity soon and i don't want to take any chances. i'm not sexually active yet, and even when i do lose my virginity it won't be what i'd consider "active" (i don't see my boyfriend very often, we have a long distance relationship). i didn't think having the pap done was something that was done before you lose your virginity if you're not 18 yet(besides special cases). oh well i guess i'll find out when i actually go, won't i.
the reason i want to go on birth control is because i *might* lose my virginity soon and i don't want to take any chances. i'm not sexually active yet, and even when i do lose my virginity it won't be what i'd consider "active" (i don't see my boyfriend very often, we have a long distance relationship). i didn't think having the pap done was something that was done before you lose your virginity if you're not 18 yet(besides special cases). oh well i guess i'll find out when i actually go, won't i.
Blastoff9600
11-04-2002, 09:06 PM
They dont use metal ones,at least I have never had a metal one used on me. Considering I have been having them done for 11 years now.
Also once you have sex you are considered sexually active no matter how many times you have it or how often.
Also if you ever plan on having kids you better get use to the idea of someone other than sexual partner touching you there. I know I sound harsh but it is a fact of life. You have to think this is for your own health and your future.
Like I said I had mine when I was a virgin,didnt have sex until right around the time I was due for my second pap exam. So I had been on BC for a year by that time. I know many ,many friends who were virgins when they started getting paps done before they went on birth control. Like I said it is just a part of the exam and such before you are given birth control. You can explain to the doctor that you are a virgin and they can talk you through everything. A female nurse will be in the room with you to help you feel more comfortable. The whole exam takes less than five minutes but it gives you peace of mind for a whole year.
Also once you have sex you are considered sexually active no matter how many times you have it or how often.
Also if you ever plan on having kids you better get use to the idea of someone other than sexual partner touching you there. I know I sound harsh but it is a fact of life. You have to think this is for your own health and your future.
Like I said I had mine when I was a virgin,didnt have sex until right around the time I was due for my second pap exam. So I had been on BC for a year by that time. I know many ,many friends who were virgins when they started getting paps done before they went on birth control. Like I said it is just a part of the exam and such before you are given birth control. You can explain to the doctor that you are a virgin and they can talk you through everything. A female nurse will be in the room with you to help you feel more comfortable. The whole exam takes less than five minutes but it gives you peace of mind for a whole year.
wrin
11-06-2002, 12:11 AM
Originally posted by mlgable:
A pap test is not uncomfortable. If it is uncomfortable or causes pain then they are not doing it right. I know many of us have posted this before but it really needs to be repeated since so many posters still say it is uncomfortable or a little discomfort. Not true at all.
Have you ever had a pap test with a cytology brush instead of the traditional curette? I don't care what you say, it's uncomfortable. Not NECESARRILY painful. Discomfort and pain are two different and mutually exclusive things, besides.
Even having somebody who's not you poking around your naughty bits with a speculum is uncomfortable.
And I've only ever had them use metal speculums on me. I prefer it that way -- metal is very sterilizable and autoclavable -- it can handle almost any sterilant you throw at it. Plastic has to be sterilized by radiation (not done on-site) or by Ethelene Oxide, which is poisonous.
Hmmm.
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A pap test is not uncomfortable. If it is uncomfortable or causes pain then they are not doing it right. I know many of us have posted this before but it really needs to be repeated since so many posters still say it is uncomfortable or a little discomfort. Not true at all.
Have you ever had a pap test with a cytology brush instead of the traditional curette? I don't care what you say, it's uncomfortable. Not NECESARRILY painful. Discomfort and pain are two different and mutually exclusive things, besides.
Even having somebody who's not you poking around your naughty bits with a speculum is uncomfortable.
And I've only ever had them use metal speculums on me. I prefer it that way -- metal is very sterilizable and autoclavable -- it can handle almost any sterilant you throw at it. Plastic has to be sterilized by radiation (not done on-site) or by Ethelene Oxide, which is poisonous.
Hmmm.
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xaphania
11-06-2002, 05:03 PM
ok, so if you go to planned parenthood, do you get your pap done there?
wrin
11-06-2002, 08:01 PM
a doctor has to do the pap.
I don't know if doctors work at planned parenthood, but your GP is just as confidential as planned parenthood is, and is probably a better choice, because he'll be able to look at your history and tell you if there's a reason why you can't take it.
And he also might not want you to have a pap. It's kind of up to his discretion.
I don't know if doctors work at planned parenthood, but your GP is just as confidential as planned parenthood is, and is probably a better choice, because he'll be able to look at your history and tell you if there's a reason why you can't take it.
And he also might not want you to have a pap. It's kind of up to his discretion.
BabyDollAmber
12-01-2002, 03:43 PM
~*~*~*~*~um...but what exactly is a pap test??? What happens during one...and will it break your hymen??? I heard u actually have 2 be 16 to get pills w/o them telling your parents...was i told wrong??? How much are the pills anyway ?~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
tinkers
12-01-2002, 04:17 PM
The 1st time I had a pap done, I went to Planned Parenthood. (no parental or Dr.'s consent needed) I went because I had been sexually active for about 3-4 years prior. I was peeing alot and very bad vaginal burning. When I had the pap done and also a urine test, the lady came back in to tell me that I had a bad urinary tract infection. And then she says "oh, and you are also 6 1/2 weeks pg! Paps are somewhat uncomfortable, but necessary. Planned Parenthood also provides condoms, birthcontrol pill, diaphragms. They do AIDS testing and testing for other diseases.
Tink
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Blastoff9600
12-01-2002, 06:34 PM
As long as you are 14 or older you dont have to have parent's consent or knowledge that you are getting BC. Places like Planned Parenthood work with teens so that does include those under 16.
Paps normally wont effect your hymen. Though sometimes it can.
As for price that depends. Sometime you can get them for free and toher times they will work with on what is known as a sliding pay scale. In other words it depends on your income on what you may have to pay for BC.
Paps normally wont effect your hymen. Though sometimes it can.
As for price that depends. Sometime you can get them for free and toher times they will work with on what is known as a sliding pay scale. In other words it depends on your income on what you may have to pay for BC.