winorloss
10-29-2002, 09:36 AM
basically, i am 19 years old and never had a wet dream. i think this is far too weird and not normal. i am completely through puberty and have been for some time. i don't really know what's going on--not a big deal really, cause it's not a big part of life that i'm missing out on that's getting me down, i just like an explanation. please someone clarify. thank you.
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Nonexist
10-29-2002, 10:10 AM
Man, you’re definitely not weird. I have wet dreams when I’ve gone without sex or masturbation for a while (a week or so). 2 of my close friends have never had one ever, and they are 26 and 29 years old. Coincidentally, both of them have high sex drives and have sex a lot (or masturbate alot when they are not in a relationship). Both of them tried to stop until they had a wet dream and couldn’t do it. I recommend it because I think wet dreams are fun as hell, for me it always makes me dream something really good. And the orgasm is intense! But the mess really sucks, LOL
You should try it if you've got the willpower
NonExist
You should try it if you've got the willpower
NonExist
winorloss
10-29-2002, 04:10 PM
damn--i went 2-3 weeks without masturbating once, it was hard. still no sign of a wet dream though...ah, o well, i gave up lol. how long are saying it takes?
Lance2
10-30-2002, 06:55 AM
Hey bud, each of us is different here. Sure, some of it has to do with our masturbation or sexual habits. The rest is simply our body "taking control" I've heard of guys not masturbating for weeks in an attempt to cause a wet dream...to no success and much frustration. I've had only one in my life, I was 25 and it totally freaked me out. Wish I could help you, but you really aren't missing out on alot....much more fun to make the "mess" yourself!
TeenageDude17
10-30-2002, 07:37 AM
I'd say that if you wanted to have one, to keep busy, avoid thinking of masturbating (I know it'll be hard), and if you go without ejaculating for a week or so (it depends on the individual) the body will ejaculate some semen (sperm) during a wet dream. Wet dreams are great, except for the embarrassing mess when you wake up and start walking funny to the washroom.
buck58
10-30-2002, 07:50 PM
They'll come when you least expect it. Stop worrying.
buck.
buck.
PiePants
11-03-2002, 07:29 PM
While impossible, abstinence for a few weeks coupled with constant sexual thoughts always work.
Texanguy
05-05-2003, 07:11 PM
research on how to have wet dreams
I've had a few wet dreams in my life, and would like a lot more. I've done some research on the web, based on writings submitted on boards by people who have wet dreams, including people who either started, stopped, or went back and forth between having lots of wet dreams and not having them.
There are always exceptions, everybody's different, but IN GENERAL:
-By far, most people who have lots of wet dreams DON'T MASTURBATE AT ALL. Some of them used to masturbate all the time and never had (many) wet dreams before they quit, but now have lots of wet dreams. 'Lots' can be several a week. Almost everyone else has few or no wet dreams. There is a big 'gulf', with few people in between.
-Lots of people would like to have wet dreams, but trying to hold off masturbating for a while usually results in frustrating cravings and no wet dreams. Yet other people stop masturbating and start having lots of wet dreams.
There appears to be two main reasons for this apparent contradiction:
-The 'time delay' between quitting masturbation and having lots of wet dreams varies, but is often several months.
-There is a difference between 'holding off' and 'quitting'. If you 'hold off' from masturbating, you'll miss it and crave it. If you 'quit' masturbating, you simply put it out of your mind, and it's no longer an option.
So if you are not having wet dreams, it looks like you have to 'kick' the masturbation habit completely. Don't think about it, don't want it, don't like it (obviously a lengthy transition period!). But once you kick it, and you wait long enough, you'll very likely start having LOTS of wet dreams.
These are observations, not personal experience. But it has convinced me of one thing: I'm kicking the masturbation habit!!!
I've had a few wet dreams in my life, and would like a lot more. I've done some research on the web, based on writings submitted on boards by people who have wet dreams, including people who either started, stopped, or went back and forth between having lots of wet dreams and not having them.
There are always exceptions, everybody's different, but IN GENERAL:
-By far, most people who have lots of wet dreams DON'T MASTURBATE AT ALL. Some of them used to masturbate all the time and never had (many) wet dreams before they quit, but now have lots of wet dreams. 'Lots' can be several a week. Almost everyone else has few or no wet dreams. There is a big 'gulf', with few people in between.
-Lots of people would like to have wet dreams, but trying to hold off masturbating for a while usually results in frustrating cravings and no wet dreams. Yet other people stop masturbating and start having lots of wet dreams.
There appears to be two main reasons for this apparent contradiction:
-The 'time delay' between quitting masturbation and having lots of wet dreams varies, but is often several months.
-There is a difference between 'holding off' and 'quitting'. If you 'hold off' from masturbating, you'll miss it and crave it. If you 'quit' masturbating, you simply put it out of your mind, and it's no longer an option.
So if you are not having wet dreams, it looks like you have to 'kick' the masturbation habit completely. Don't think about it, don't want it, don't like it (obviously a lengthy transition period!). But once you kick it, and you wait long enough, you'll very likely start having LOTS of wet dreams.
These are observations, not personal experience. But it has convinced me of one thing: I'm kicking the masturbation habit!!!
Texanguy
05-05-2003, 07:34 PM
Research on how to have wet dreams, continued
I have a theory about why 'holding off' from masturbating doesn't easily get you a wet dream.
If you 'hold off' masturbating while awake trying to have a wet dream, you are basically telling your brain 'no sex'. Your brain therefore won't have 'sex' in a wet dream while asleep either, since it thinks it's awake at the time! It looks like you have get past that by quitting masturbation completely for a long time, to let your brain and body get back the the 'natural' way -- wet dreams.
A few people 'easily' hold off from masturbating and go back and forth between masturbating and waiting only a few days before having wet dreams again. It may be that these people really stop masturbating and enjoy their wet dreams for weeks or months on end. In other words, these people may really be 'wet dreamers' who 'occasionally' masturbate, but are not 'hooked' on masturbation
But whether that's true or not, the 'anecdotal evidence' indicates that the situation is different for the vast majority of people, who have few or no wet dreams, and may want lots of them.
Virtually the only way people anywhere on the web have successfully transitioned from having no wet dreams to having lots of them was by completely quitting masturbation first -- not just 'holding off'!
Search the web yourself if you want – you’ll find some postings and questions from more mature people (not talking about young teenagers just starting out) who used to have no wet dreams at all and now have several a week. They ALL did it by quitting masturbation completely, for various reasons. Most often, the reasons were unstated. Some reasons included personal, boredom with masturbation, lack of opportunity, medical, or even religious. The one thing they all had in common as that they used to masturbate and quit. There was no evidence of any other way to start having wet dreams.
If a person is normal, masturbates pretty often, doesn’t have wet dreams and wants them, they’ll have to do what others have already done to start having their frequent wet dreams -- quit masturbating completely! You can't 'hold off', you have to quit.
A few people can do both, but most of us have two only two choices. We can either continue to masturbate and have no wet dreams, or we can take the time and effort to completely quit masturbation, leave it behind, wait, and let the body start having better sex naturally while asleep. (Sounds like quitting a habit!). We can either masturbate all we want and never have wet dreams, or have lots of wet dreams and never masturbate.
It looks like people who 'make it' to having lots of wet dreams see no point in ever masturbating again. I know I wouldn't!
Observations? Comments?
I have some questions for the people who don't masturbate and have wet dreams:
-What is your opinion of these observations? Anything to add or disagree with?
-Is having wet dreams part of the reason you never masturbate, or even the MAIN reason?
-Did you ever masturbate enough in the past that you had few or no wet dreams?
-If so, how did you happen to quit? How hard was it? Did you quit in order to have wet dreams, or were they a side effect? How long after you quit did you start having wet dreams?
-How do your wet dreams compare in feelings, excitement, intensity, etc, to when you used to masturbate?
-Would you ever consider going back to masturbating and giving up wet dreams? (Anecdotal evidence says very few people do.)
There is something quite fascinating about having lots of exciting sex in your sleep to people who very rarely if ever have wet dreams and can't stop masturbating. Would you recommend that people make the effort to quit masturbation completely in order to enjoy lots of wet dreams? Would you personally describe it as worth it?
Do you have recommendations on how best to make the transition? Help us people who want lots of wet dreams out!
Questions for people who masturbate and have few if any wet dreams:
-If you started having several wet dreams a week which were more exciting and intense than masturbation, would you still bother with masturbation, or lose all interest in it? Especially if masturbation made you have less of these wet dreams?
-If there was a step by step recipe that GUARANTEED lots of great orgasms in wet dreams, and part of that process was to quit masturbating completely, would you follow it?
Myself, I want lots of wet dreams, and I'm tired of masturbation anyway. The next step is now pretty obvious... If I make it, I'm not going back!
I have a theory about why 'holding off' from masturbating doesn't easily get you a wet dream.
If you 'hold off' masturbating while awake trying to have a wet dream, you are basically telling your brain 'no sex'. Your brain therefore won't have 'sex' in a wet dream while asleep either, since it thinks it's awake at the time! It looks like you have get past that by quitting masturbation completely for a long time, to let your brain and body get back the the 'natural' way -- wet dreams.
A few people 'easily' hold off from masturbating and go back and forth between masturbating and waiting only a few days before having wet dreams again. It may be that these people really stop masturbating and enjoy their wet dreams for weeks or months on end. In other words, these people may really be 'wet dreamers' who 'occasionally' masturbate, but are not 'hooked' on masturbation
But whether that's true or not, the 'anecdotal evidence' indicates that the situation is different for the vast majority of people, who have few or no wet dreams, and may want lots of them.
Virtually the only way people anywhere on the web have successfully transitioned from having no wet dreams to having lots of them was by completely quitting masturbation first -- not just 'holding off'!
Search the web yourself if you want – you’ll find some postings and questions from more mature people (not talking about young teenagers just starting out) who used to have no wet dreams at all and now have several a week. They ALL did it by quitting masturbation completely, for various reasons. Most often, the reasons were unstated. Some reasons included personal, boredom with masturbation, lack of opportunity, medical, or even religious. The one thing they all had in common as that they used to masturbate and quit. There was no evidence of any other way to start having wet dreams.
If a person is normal, masturbates pretty often, doesn’t have wet dreams and wants them, they’ll have to do what others have already done to start having their frequent wet dreams -- quit masturbating completely! You can't 'hold off', you have to quit.
A few people can do both, but most of us have two only two choices. We can either continue to masturbate and have no wet dreams, or we can take the time and effort to completely quit masturbation, leave it behind, wait, and let the body start having better sex naturally while asleep. (Sounds like quitting a habit!). We can either masturbate all we want and never have wet dreams, or have lots of wet dreams and never masturbate.
It looks like people who 'make it' to having lots of wet dreams see no point in ever masturbating again. I know I wouldn't!
Observations? Comments?
I have some questions for the people who don't masturbate and have wet dreams:
-What is your opinion of these observations? Anything to add or disagree with?
-Is having wet dreams part of the reason you never masturbate, or even the MAIN reason?
-Did you ever masturbate enough in the past that you had few or no wet dreams?
-If so, how did you happen to quit? How hard was it? Did you quit in order to have wet dreams, or were they a side effect? How long after you quit did you start having wet dreams?
-How do your wet dreams compare in feelings, excitement, intensity, etc, to when you used to masturbate?
-Would you ever consider going back to masturbating and giving up wet dreams? (Anecdotal evidence says very few people do.)
There is something quite fascinating about having lots of exciting sex in your sleep to people who very rarely if ever have wet dreams and can't stop masturbating. Would you recommend that people make the effort to quit masturbation completely in order to enjoy lots of wet dreams? Would you personally describe it as worth it?
Do you have recommendations on how best to make the transition? Help us people who want lots of wet dreams out!
Questions for people who masturbate and have few if any wet dreams:
-If you started having several wet dreams a week which were more exciting and intense than masturbation, would you still bother with masturbation, or lose all interest in it? Especially if masturbation made you have less of these wet dreams?
-If there was a step by step recipe that GUARANTEED lots of great orgasms in wet dreams, and part of that process was to quit masturbating completely, would you follow it?
Myself, I want lots of wet dreams, and I'm tired of masturbation anyway. The next step is now pretty obvious... If I make it, I'm not going back!
focus
05-05-2003, 10:20 PM
Texanguy - thanks for all the info and research. I too am fascinated with wet dreams, how they work, why they happen, and how to get them on a regular basis. I've only had one wet dream in my life, when I was 19, and I've always wanted to have more, and have tried quitting masturbation several times with no success.
Where did you find all this info on the web? When I checked the web for wet dreams, I found absolutely zero scientific research on the topic. A few posts on various bulletin boards, etc., and a few survey results, which do support your theory of semen build-up from no ejaculation over a long period of time increases the chance for a wet dream. Kind of like semen is stored in a tank so to speak, and constantly fills that tank. If the tank is never emptied through masturbation or sex, it will overflow and the body will expel the overflow in a wet dream during sleep.
While I agree with some of that theory, I'm almost positive there is more to it than that. Based on the following:
1. Take me for example. My one and only wet dream came totally unexpected and was a big surprise, as I wasn't 'trying' for one. I was just following my normal masturbation routine. I hadn't masturbated for 5 days before this wet dream, which is not a long period of time. I had gone much longer than that before without any wet dream. And after that, I had tried to have another wet dream many times by abstaining from any ejaculations. Once I went for 2 whole months without ejaculating, and still no wet dream. This followed by several 1 month attempts, and again no wet dream. So this experience goes against the cup runneth over theory.
2. It is a known fact that the body reabsorbs excess sperm and semen that goes unused. Although sperm production is fairly constant, production of the fluids that make up semen can be regulated by the body based on need. Based on this, there is no physical need for the body to expel excess sperm and semen, as it is able to reabsorb the excess. This makes wet dreams a physical 'option', not a necessity.
3. Some guys experience wet dreams as often as several times per week, AND they masturbate and/or have sex on a regular basis too, sometimes daily. Clearly there is no excess semen in this situation, so why the frequent wet dreams anyway?
Maybe if I went longer than 2 months, I would eventually have a wet dream, who knows? But that still doesn't explain why I had one at only 5 days, but not at 2 months.
All I know is quiting masturbation and sex for long periods of time is VERY difficult to do. I find it gets to the point where it almost completely preoccupies my mind. I can usually make to 3 weeks, but after that it gets almost unbearable. I find I can't sleep, I can't concentrate, I'm irritable, and I find almost every waking second I'm thinking about sexual things. Its a constant horniness that will NOT go away no matter how hard I try to focus on other things or take my mind off of it. I think this is just the natural male sex drive, and its unnatural to try to resist it. And its certainly a lot of effort and aggravation just to try to have a wet dream.
Anyway, my theory is wet dreams have more to do with the mind and the way your brain is wired together rather than just physical need to expel excess semen. And some people are just more likely to have them than others because of this. There is a lot that we don't know about the human mind, and I think wet dreams are one of them.
Where did you find all this info on the web? When I checked the web for wet dreams, I found absolutely zero scientific research on the topic. A few posts on various bulletin boards, etc., and a few survey results, which do support your theory of semen build-up from no ejaculation over a long period of time increases the chance for a wet dream. Kind of like semen is stored in a tank so to speak, and constantly fills that tank. If the tank is never emptied through masturbation or sex, it will overflow and the body will expel the overflow in a wet dream during sleep.
While I agree with some of that theory, I'm almost positive there is more to it than that. Based on the following:
1. Take me for example. My one and only wet dream came totally unexpected and was a big surprise, as I wasn't 'trying' for one. I was just following my normal masturbation routine. I hadn't masturbated for 5 days before this wet dream, which is not a long period of time. I had gone much longer than that before without any wet dream. And after that, I had tried to have another wet dream many times by abstaining from any ejaculations. Once I went for 2 whole months without ejaculating, and still no wet dream. This followed by several 1 month attempts, and again no wet dream. So this experience goes against the cup runneth over theory.
2. It is a known fact that the body reabsorbs excess sperm and semen that goes unused. Although sperm production is fairly constant, production of the fluids that make up semen can be regulated by the body based on need. Based on this, there is no physical need for the body to expel excess sperm and semen, as it is able to reabsorb the excess. This makes wet dreams a physical 'option', not a necessity.
3. Some guys experience wet dreams as often as several times per week, AND they masturbate and/or have sex on a regular basis too, sometimes daily. Clearly there is no excess semen in this situation, so why the frequent wet dreams anyway?
Maybe if I went longer than 2 months, I would eventually have a wet dream, who knows? But that still doesn't explain why I had one at only 5 days, but not at 2 months.
All I know is quiting masturbation and sex for long periods of time is VERY difficult to do. I find it gets to the point where it almost completely preoccupies my mind. I can usually make to 3 weeks, but after that it gets almost unbearable. I find I can't sleep, I can't concentrate, I'm irritable, and I find almost every waking second I'm thinking about sexual things. Its a constant horniness that will NOT go away no matter how hard I try to focus on other things or take my mind off of it. I think this is just the natural male sex drive, and its unnatural to try to resist it. And its certainly a lot of effort and aggravation just to try to have a wet dream.
Anyway, my theory is wet dreams have more to do with the mind and the way your brain is wired together rather than just physical need to expel excess semen. And some people are just more likely to have them than others because of this. There is a lot that we don't know about the human mind, and I think wet dreams are one of them.
Inspector-r-r-r
05-06-2003, 12:02 PM
I know I can't speak for everyone but I am riveted.... This is very interesting...
Texanguy
05-06-2003, 04:45 PM
It’s nice someone shares my fascination. I think a lot of people do. What a way to spend time while unemployed!
Some of the few wet dreams I’ve had also came within just a few days of not masturbating, whereas other times I’ve gone much longer without any. Clearly, it’s not just ‘semen buildup’. Perhaps part of the key is what you said, you weren’t ‘trying to’ have a wet dream!
You can find people with all kinds of combinations and rates of sex, masturbation, and wet dreams, all in the same person. But the question is what are the TYPICAL trends? One thing we know, for example, is that most people masturbate fairly frequently, and have few if any wet dreams. That’s the typical person. (It also looks like this ‘typical person’ would like to have a lot more of them!).
But what is the ‘TYPICAL person’ who has lots of wet dreams? I didn’t know before, but all I can say is that from the web, it seems pretty overwhelming: the ‘typical person’ who has several wet dreams a week doesn’t masturbate at all. If they ever did masturbate, they had quit and then started having wet dreams, usually several months later.
Being currently unemployed, my ‘research’ was just using keywords to search through the web, and ignoring the vast majority of irrelevant sites, useless repetitions, porn links, etc. It’s based on what people have posted about their own wet dreams and masturbation habits, often in the form of asking for advice.
Much of the information I found was from following links to questions and comments on ‘medical advice’ sites. I soon found an amazingly high correlation between people who never masturbated or had quit, and now had very frequent wet dreams. I was also surprised to see people concerned that they couldn’t masturbate when they tried, even though they had wet dreams.
Some people were from other cultures, and seemed to be concerned about their wet dreams. Some posts simply said they had quit masturbating some months ago, and now started having several wet dreams a week, even though they had never had them before. More than one guy in their 20’s wanted to know if it was normal to have lots of wet dreams at that age, especially since they never had them before. Some weren’t sure if it was related to having quit masturbating months before or not. It seems there is a time lag.
It looks like other cultures have less knowledge about such things. More than one person wanted to know how to stop having their wet dreams. The advice given was either to masturbate, or just enjoy them and not worry. I would think that most Americans who quit masturbating and start having lots of wet dreams know exactly what’s going on, and feel no need to ask advice on the web. They probably just think “This is cool!” and want more.
Some ‘anecdotes’ include a Mormon (they are opposed to masturbation) who described himself as having started out having wet dreams, started masturbating pretty young, and had no more wet dreams. Then as a late teen, he was ‘scared’ into quitting masturbation by a church elder. He quit, and then started having wet dreams again.
Another guy described starting to masturbate around 12 or so, having had a few wet dreams before then. He went to masturbating to porn, often 3 times a day, and never had wet dreams. Sometime later, he got concerned that it was not healthy (apparently not from religious concerns) to masturbate so much. So he eventually quit masturbating completely, and sometime later started having wet dreams. He felt that they were better and more natural than masturbation, and never masturbated after that. He continued never masturbating and having wet dreams until becoming sexually active.
One older guy (in his 40’s, I think) had surgery that kept him from having any sex with his wife (or any other way) for a long time. After about 3 months (I think it was), he started having wet dreams for the first time since he was a teenager.
Some people just mention in passing that they don’t masturbate and have lots of wet dreams, even though it wasn’t the main topic of the post, only related.
Some people post about how much they love their wet dreams. They describe how they can’t wait for the next one. They may mention having lots of wet dreams because they are not ‘sexually active’, but none I saw mention masturbation at all. They are just very eager for their next wet dream. This implies to me (but doesn't prove) that wet dreams are probably the only sex they are having -- masturbation probably just doesn’t exist for them! Certainly all of their erotic focus is on having more wet dreams. Perhaps they wouldn’t understand why anyone would bother with masturbating when wet dreams are so great. In fact, there are other postings on the web that say just that: ‘Why masturbate when you can have wet dreams?’
I also saw postings of people who masturbated frequently and still had wet dreams, but they seem to be small minority, and young. I never saw any that claimed to masturbate once a day or more and still had several wet dreams a week. If so, they must be a small minority. But there are PLENTY of people on the web who say they don’t masturbate at all and have several wet dreams a week, including some who never had a wet dream before their 20’s, and after they stopped masturbating!
I also saw several postings on the web of people trying to have wet dreams by ‘holding off’ from masturbating until they did, and it never happened. I think a lot of people have tried, including me.
I know about the few people masturbate and also have wet dreams, but that wasn’t my concern I wanted to know about people who didn’t have any and wanted them. My question was ‘Did anyone who masturbated and who had few if any wet dreams ever go from there to having lots of wet dreams? If so, how did they do it?'
There was one and only one way, anywhere on the net, in a variety of individual variations: They completely quit masturbating (or have any other waking sex). Then sometime later, perhaps many months (and even to their surprise), they started having wet dreams, even several a week.
You can spend hours looking yourself. Compound searches help, such as {"wet dreams" "stopped masturbating"}, and various similar wordings ("had a wet dream", "have wet dreams", "don't masturbate" etc). It might help if you were bored and unemployed, too. You can also comb thousand of sites (rejecting most from their titles) just by searching on "wet dreams", or "masturbation".
It's pretty easy to find the strong anecdotal connection between frequent wet dreams and not masturbating, and between not masturbating and having wet dreams in general.
But I couldn't find hardly anything that associated not masturbating and NO wet dreams! One 70 year old guy with medical problems, and some people under drug therapies eventually came up as not masturbating and not having wet dreams. That was it.
Some of the few wet dreams I’ve had also came within just a few days of not masturbating, whereas other times I’ve gone much longer without any. Clearly, it’s not just ‘semen buildup’. Perhaps part of the key is what you said, you weren’t ‘trying to’ have a wet dream!
You can find people with all kinds of combinations and rates of sex, masturbation, and wet dreams, all in the same person. But the question is what are the TYPICAL trends? One thing we know, for example, is that most people masturbate fairly frequently, and have few if any wet dreams. That’s the typical person. (It also looks like this ‘typical person’ would like to have a lot more of them!).
But what is the ‘TYPICAL person’ who has lots of wet dreams? I didn’t know before, but all I can say is that from the web, it seems pretty overwhelming: the ‘typical person’ who has several wet dreams a week doesn’t masturbate at all. If they ever did masturbate, they had quit and then started having wet dreams, usually several months later.
Being currently unemployed, my ‘research’ was just using keywords to search through the web, and ignoring the vast majority of irrelevant sites, useless repetitions, porn links, etc. It’s based on what people have posted about their own wet dreams and masturbation habits, often in the form of asking for advice.
Much of the information I found was from following links to questions and comments on ‘medical advice’ sites. I soon found an amazingly high correlation between people who never masturbated or had quit, and now had very frequent wet dreams. I was also surprised to see people concerned that they couldn’t masturbate when they tried, even though they had wet dreams.
Some people were from other cultures, and seemed to be concerned about their wet dreams. Some posts simply said they had quit masturbating some months ago, and now started having several wet dreams a week, even though they had never had them before. More than one guy in their 20’s wanted to know if it was normal to have lots of wet dreams at that age, especially since they never had them before. Some weren’t sure if it was related to having quit masturbating months before or not. It seems there is a time lag.
It looks like other cultures have less knowledge about such things. More than one person wanted to know how to stop having their wet dreams. The advice given was either to masturbate, or just enjoy them and not worry. I would think that most Americans who quit masturbating and start having lots of wet dreams know exactly what’s going on, and feel no need to ask advice on the web. They probably just think “This is cool!” and want more.
Some ‘anecdotes’ include a Mormon (they are opposed to masturbation) who described himself as having started out having wet dreams, started masturbating pretty young, and had no more wet dreams. Then as a late teen, he was ‘scared’ into quitting masturbation by a church elder. He quit, and then started having wet dreams again.
Another guy described starting to masturbate around 12 or so, having had a few wet dreams before then. He went to masturbating to porn, often 3 times a day, and never had wet dreams. Sometime later, he got concerned that it was not healthy (apparently not from religious concerns) to masturbate so much. So he eventually quit masturbating completely, and sometime later started having wet dreams. He felt that they were better and more natural than masturbation, and never masturbated after that. He continued never masturbating and having wet dreams until becoming sexually active.
One older guy (in his 40’s, I think) had surgery that kept him from having any sex with his wife (or any other way) for a long time. After about 3 months (I think it was), he started having wet dreams for the first time since he was a teenager.
Some people just mention in passing that they don’t masturbate and have lots of wet dreams, even though it wasn’t the main topic of the post, only related.
Some people post about how much they love their wet dreams. They describe how they can’t wait for the next one. They may mention having lots of wet dreams because they are not ‘sexually active’, but none I saw mention masturbation at all. They are just very eager for their next wet dream. This implies to me (but doesn't prove) that wet dreams are probably the only sex they are having -- masturbation probably just doesn’t exist for them! Certainly all of their erotic focus is on having more wet dreams. Perhaps they wouldn’t understand why anyone would bother with masturbating when wet dreams are so great. In fact, there are other postings on the web that say just that: ‘Why masturbate when you can have wet dreams?’
I also saw postings of people who masturbated frequently and still had wet dreams, but they seem to be small minority, and young. I never saw any that claimed to masturbate once a day or more and still had several wet dreams a week. If so, they must be a small minority. But there are PLENTY of people on the web who say they don’t masturbate at all and have several wet dreams a week, including some who never had a wet dream before their 20’s, and after they stopped masturbating!
I also saw several postings on the web of people trying to have wet dreams by ‘holding off’ from masturbating until they did, and it never happened. I think a lot of people have tried, including me.
I know about the few people masturbate and also have wet dreams, but that wasn’t my concern I wanted to know about people who didn’t have any and wanted them. My question was ‘Did anyone who masturbated and who had few if any wet dreams ever go from there to having lots of wet dreams? If so, how did they do it?'
There was one and only one way, anywhere on the net, in a variety of individual variations: They completely quit masturbating (or have any other waking sex). Then sometime later, perhaps many months (and even to their surprise), they started having wet dreams, even several a week.
You can spend hours looking yourself. Compound searches help, such as {"wet dreams" "stopped masturbating"}, and various similar wordings ("had a wet dream", "have wet dreams", "don't masturbate" etc). It might help if you were bored and unemployed, too. You can also comb thousand of sites (rejecting most from their titles) just by searching on "wet dreams", or "masturbation".
It's pretty easy to find the strong anecdotal connection between frequent wet dreams and not masturbating, and between not masturbating and having wet dreams in general.
But I couldn't find hardly anything that associated not masturbating and NO wet dreams! One 70 year old guy with medical problems, and some people under drug therapies eventually came up as not masturbating and not having wet dreams. That was it.
googoodoll
05-06-2003, 09:49 PM
I'm a female and I've had wet dreams! yes-youheard right-wet dreams! I love having them-they don't happen often but when they do it's awesome! I've woken up to my orgasm before-and thenI wake my husband up for sex! fun fun fun! lol..good luck though hope it happens for ya!
Tulkas
06-09-2003, 02:10 AM
I'd really like to thank Tex for this information, and I have to say I really agree with the part about the tendency of "holding off" on masturbation to be a form of repressing the normal sexual expression-- it's an essential part of getting sexual satisfaction instead of chasing this otherwise-impossible dream in the waking world, when the desire is in the dreaming mind.
I would also like to add a few bits of my own knowledge:
Technically speaking, "wet dreams" have nothing to do with dreams, but are a involuntary function of the body similar to heartbeat and breathing, while dreams are entirely in the cerebral cortex, the highest part of the brain; while this sexual experience may trigger a sexual dream as the brain tends to try to explain what the person feeling, this is secondary, and a person can have an orgasm while asleep with any dream or even no dream at all-- and dream-content can be influenced by many thought-related factors and issues, from fulfilling a desire, to repressing shame. However, it is definitely a sexual experience, and not some autonomic function like digestion etc; every night, the brain normally goes through a sexual-arousal function as part of the normal sleep-cycle, usually as part of the normal REM dream-sleep shortly before awakening; it's just a normal part of sleep-functions, and is the cause of morning-erections.
This arousal-patter occurs in all normal persons regardless age or gender; however it is normally more pronounced in adolescent and adult males due to higher levels of testosterone, while an adolescent's sexual functioning is even more active due to the fact that it is rapidly growing and developing at this age, and is thus more active than a fully mature function- just as with any other function which is in a state of development. Likewise, testosterone increases the sex drive and makes it easier to have orgasms; as a result, sexual tension increases, bringing the person closer to orgasm at any time, while likewise it's easier to have the orgasm; as a result, the sexual-arousal function simply brings the person close enough to get off completely.
As Tex mentioned, a person can subconsciously inhibit these "wet dreams" or "somnovolent orgasms" by decreasing sexual tension through a sort of self-willed depression; in fact, most sleep-studies of men have found wet dreams to be much more rare in the lab than in a person's private bedroom, due to the person feeling a lack of privacy and thus supressing sexual feelings. However if done on a regular basis, this supression can adversely affect a person's sex-life as well as cause great stress overall, as with the supression of any natural appetite or function.
As for the issue of "mess," this is one area which really seems to be designed to shame males into being embarassed about their bodies in a puritanical attempt to keep them from "getting out of control;" the very name "wet dream" seems to compare it to infantile bedwetting, while at the same time claiming that it's a completely non-sexual reaction, even going so far as to claim that it's the body "emptying itself" of semen with no feeling, and is often compared to menstruation in females simply because both happen in puberty, involve the discharge of gametes etc.
However likewise, while the issue of menstruation is discussed openly, with girls being given protection against the "mess," adolescent males are repressed over the much more personal nature of this type of incident, and given no such protection-- when a simple condom functions perfectly well.
This repression causes males to feel naturally ashamed and guilty due to the sexual feelings they experience during this supposedly "unconscious" process which they are told, is simply an unfelt discharge, but which is actually a very intense experience, both physically and emotionally; this silence and sense of exposure -- as well as being related to a loss of bodily functions-- quite naturally results in a sense of shame over what could otherwise be the most pleasurable and satisfying moment of a person's life to date.
Likewise, female sexuality in this area is repressed entirely, which likewise leads to shame over such feelings; however, since female sexuality develops much slower due to lower testosterone levels at this age compared to later in life-- long after most women have become sexual and even had children--it's usually not as traumatic an issue, while likewise female sexuality is often celebrated in our society and media, while male sexuality is treated with revulsion and disgust, causing men to become ashamed of their sexuality rather than proud as most people seem to believe, but is actually compensation for the shame.
As such, it's time that men simply put on codoms befoe bed, just like women do with tampons etc, and both men and women learn and accept taught that somnovolent orgamss are a full-fledged sexual experience, and capable of even greater intensity than real ones, and are NOT some kind of autonomic discharge equivalent to urination/menstruation/etc.
I'd even like to start a group about this, since it's an issue that everyone has, but no one talks about since it's been repressed for so long.
{the posting of email addys on the forums is against posting guidelines, bfl}
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I would also like to add a few bits of my own knowledge:
Technically speaking, "wet dreams" have nothing to do with dreams, but are a involuntary function of the body similar to heartbeat and breathing, while dreams are entirely in the cerebral cortex, the highest part of the brain; while this sexual experience may trigger a sexual dream as the brain tends to try to explain what the person feeling, this is secondary, and a person can have an orgasm while asleep with any dream or even no dream at all-- and dream-content can be influenced by many thought-related factors and issues, from fulfilling a desire, to repressing shame. However, it is definitely a sexual experience, and not some autonomic function like digestion etc; every night, the brain normally goes through a sexual-arousal function as part of the normal sleep-cycle, usually as part of the normal REM dream-sleep shortly before awakening; it's just a normal part of sleep-functions, and is the cause of morning-erections.
This arousal-patter occurs in all normal persons regardless age or gender; however it is normally more pronounced in adolescent and adult males due to higher levels of testosterone, while an adolescent's sexual functioning is even more active due to the fact that it is rapidly growing and developing at this age, and is thus more active than a fully mature function- just as with any other function which is in a state of development. Likewise, testosterone increases the sex drive and makes it easier to have orgasms; as a result, sexual tension increases, bringing the person closer to orgasm at any time, while likewise it's easier to have the orgasm; as a result, the sexual-arousal function simply brings the person close enough to get off completely.
As Tex mentioned, a person can subconsciously inhibit these "wet dreams" or "somnovolent orgasms" by decreasing sexual tension through a sort of self-willed depression; in fact, most sleep-studies of men have found wet dreams to be much more rare in the lab than in a person's private bedroom, due to the person feeling a lack of privacy and thus supressing sexual feelings. However if done on a regular basis, this supression can adversely affect a person's sex-life as well as cause great stress overall, as with the supression of any natural appetite or function.
As for the issue of "mess," this is one area which really seems to be designed to shame males into being embarassed about their bodies in a puritanical attempt to keep them from "getting out of control;" the very name "wet dream" seems to compare it to infantile bedwetting, while at the same time claiming that it's a completely non-sexual reaction, even going so far as to claim that it's the body "emptying itself" of semen with no feeling, and is often compared to menstruation in females simply because both happen in puberty, involve the discharge of gametes etc.
However likewise, while the issue of menstruation is discussed openly, with girls being given protection against the "mess," adolescent males are repressed over the much more personal nature of this type of incident, and given no such protection-- when a simple condom functions perfectly well.
This repression causes males to feel naturally ashamed and guilty due to the sexual feelings they experience during this supposedly "unconscious" process which they are told, is simply an unfelt discharge, but which is actually a very intense experience, both physically and emotionally; this silence and sense of exposure -- as well as being related to a loss of bodily functions-- quite naturally results in a sense of shame over what could otherwise be the most pleasurable and satisfying moment of a person's life to date.
Likewise, female sexuality in this area is repressed entirely, which likewise leads to shame over such feelings; however, since female sexuality develops much slower due to lower testosterone levels at this age compared to later in life-- long after most women have become sexual and even had children--it's usually not as traumatic an issue, while likewise female sexuality is often celebrated in our society and media, while male sexuality is treated with revulsion and disgust, causing men to become ashamed of their sexuality rather than proud as most people seem to believe, but is actually compensation for the shame.
As such, it's time that men simply put on codoms befoe bed, just like women do with tampons etc, and both men and women learn and accept taught that somnovolent orgamss are a full-fledged sexual experience, and capable of even greater intensity than real ones, and are NOT some kind of autonomic discharge equivalent to urination/menstruation/etc.
I'd even like to start a group about this, since it's an issue that everyone has, but no one talks about since it's been repressed for so long.
{the posting of email addys on the forums is against posting guidelines, bfl}
[This message has been edited by bfl (edited 08-05-2003).]
Tulkas
06-09-2003, 02:37 AM
I'd like to provide actual medical evidence that there is no connection between semen-production and "wet dreams," since most of the glands responsible for producing semen, such as the prostate, empty excess secretions into the urine, while other areas such as the seminal vesicles and testes, do re-absorb excess semen; as a result, the amount of seminal fluid reaches an equilibrium-point after about 2-3 days of abstinence, which is usually about 2 ml (about a half-teaspoon) and rarely more than 5 ml (a full teaspoon).
Once this is reached, no amount of abstinence will increase the total amount-- although sexual tension can cause it to increase, with this same tension likewise being the only cause of an orgasm as explained above, i.e. sexual tension from testosterone, and possibly from sexual thoughts as well, can bring a person close enough to orgasm that the daily sexual-arousal function of the person's circadian rhythm, and which normally takes place about an hour before waking, becomes enough to result in an orgasm.
Another issue I've studied about is "Lucid Dreaming," in which a person knows they are dreaming, and interacts with the dream voluntarily.
In an experiment with this, a man deliberately enaged in sex with the dream-girl, and experienced a complete sexual encounter, but did not actually ejaculate in real life even though he felt it in the dream.
(A woman also did this same experiment, but she reported that her orgasm was "weak" even though she had pelvic contractions which were stronger than a woman's normal orgasm.
I think the best strategy, therefore, would be to simply set out with the goal of having a sexual dream and experience, but not the expectation; this will avoid anxiety over not having it, or "doing it wrong" etc.
This way, it's easier to analyze what works and what doesn't, and make changes if it doesn't work, and enhance performance if it does.
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Once this is reached, no amount of abstinence will increase the total amount-- although sexual tension can cause it to increase, with this same tension likewise being the only cause of an orgasm as explained above, i.e. sexual tension from testosterone, and possibly from sexual thoughts as well, can bring a person close enough to orgasm that the daily sexual-arousal function of the person's circadian rhythm, and which normally takes place about an hour before waking, becomes enough to result in an orgasm.
Another issue I've studied about is "Lucid Dreaming," in which a person knows they are dreaming, and interacts with the dream voluntarily.
In an experiment with this, a man deliberately enaged in sex with the dream-girl, and experienced a complete sexual encounter, but did not actually ejaculate in real life even though he felt it in the dream.
(A woman also did this same experiment, but she reported that her orgasm was "weak" even though she had pelvic contractions which were stronger than a woman's normal orgasm.
I think the best strategy, therefore, would be to simply set out with the goal of having a sexual dream and experience, but not the expectation; this will avoid anxiety over not having it, or "doing it wrong" etc.
This way, it's easier to analyze what works and what doesn't, and make changes if it doesn't work, and enhance performance if it does.
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Texanguy
06-10-2003, 11:04 PM
Tulkas,
Thanks for your comments. Do you have regular wet dreams? How often? What is your masturbation history?
You provided a detailed analysis of physiological funtions, but I'm not sure I agree with your characterizations of the 'repression' of male sexuality by society. Rather, I think it's encouraged and accepted all around us.
As far as masturbation goes, the atmosphere for the last few decades has been that 'everybody masturbates, and there's nothing wrong with it'(as far as we know). I basically agree, but it does not deal with individual variations and preferences. It's just not the whole story. I think you'd agree, sex education does not deal with wet dreams other than just to say they are 'OK, too'. It fails to deal with their feelings and relevance, and fails to discuss how much some people enjoy them and even prefer them to masturbation.
Nowadays, people grow up thinking they are 'supposed' to masturbate, and very little is said about the alternative of not masturbating and likely having frequent wet dreams. I think that has to do with making everybody feel comfortable with masturbation, and also simply because about 78% of people rarely if ever have wet dreams (they masturbate too much). I don't think it's a 'plot', it's just that the focus is not on wet dreams.
But even so, a lot of guys seem to have a strong personal fascination with wet dreams, perhaps not realizing that many other people do as well. It's also quite clear that a lot of people who have wet dreams really love them. It seems to me that while it may be 'natural and normal' to masturbate, it also seems 'natural and normal' to want wet dreams and not masturbate. It's just not 'accepted' as normal.
Most people just aren't aware of who has wet dreams, who doesn't, how often, and why, or how much or little people who have them like them. Nor can they get them to see for themselves. It may or may not be harmful, but for many people, masturbation is an addiction. They can't stop, yet if they never started they wouldn't miss it.
Like most people, I grew up masturbating and having very few wet dreams. But with the advent of the internet, it's possible to do a lot of anecdotal research that couldn't be done before on what other people think, do, and feel about masturbation and wet dreams.
I think knowledge is a good thing, and people should have knowledge of the alternatives. I didn't know that people who don't masturbate may have 2, 3, or even (for a few people) 6 or 7 wet dreams a week. I didn't know that they were normal people, neither sex crazed (from lack of masturbation to relieve the 'tensions'), nor 'freaks' in other ways. I didn't know that some of them know all about masturbation, may have done it themselves, but now choose not to.
I also didn't know that a lot of people try really hard to have wet dreams by holding off from masturbation. Most people fail, but I wonder what happens if they succeed, and start having frequent wet dreams that may be more intense than masturbation (as many who already have them say)? After all that 'effort', some of them may very well keep up the wet dreams and try to have them even more often by continuing not to masturbate. How many people reading this are bored with masturbation enough to wish they could do just that?
(It's still not clear to me if ALL normal males who choose not to masturbate long enough will eventually have wet dreams. But it seems that virtually everyone who claims not to masturbate does, even if they used to masturbate in the past and had none. It can just take a long time.)
I think a more balanced and informed view for people, young and old, would be to understand and consider that frequent wet dreams are a real and natural alternative to masturbation. If they taught in schools not only that masturbation is 'OK', but that many informed people choose not to do it, and have wet dreams that many claim feel better than masturbation or even sex, my guess is that more people would pursue that path. Many people don't know it really exists as an option. I know I didn't.
It's interesting that some secular (non-religious)cultures, such as some Asian ones, have the idea that masturbation is 'bad' for you, and that you should be having wet dreams instead. There, if you want to be part of the 'in crowd', you'd have wet dreams and not masturbate. You'd be considered a wimp and loser if you did masturbate.
I'm an older guy now, and I may not have a lot of wet dreams if I quit masturbating completely. But I think if I knew what I know now, I probably would have given a very hard try to go the 'wet dream' route whan I was young. So might many other people. After all, you could always resume masturbating (and probably stop all the wet dreams) if you wanted to.
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Thanks for your comments. Do you have regular wet dreams? How often? What is your masturbation history?
You provided a detailed analysis of physiological funtions, but I'm not sure I agree with your characterizations of the 'repression' of male sexuality by society. Rather, I think it's encouraged and accepted all around us.
As far as masturbation goes, the atmosphere for the last few decades has been that 'everybody masturbates, and there's nothing wrong with it'(as far as we know). I basically agree, but it does not deal with individual variations and preferences. It's just not the whole story. I think you'd agree, sex education does not deal with wet dreams other than just to say they are 'OK, too'. It fails to deal with their feelings and relevance, and fails to discuss how much some people enjoy them and even prefer them to masturbation.
Nowadays, people grow up thinking they are 'supposed' to masturbate, and very little is said about the alternative of not masturbating and likely having frequent wet dreams. I think that has to do with making everybody feel comfortable with masturbation, and also simply because about 78% of people rarely if ever have wet dreams (they masturbate too much). I don't think it's a 'plot', it's just that the focus is not on wet dreams.
But even so, a lot of guys seem to have a strong personal fascination with wet dreams, perhaps not realizing that many other people do as well. It's also quite clear that a lot of people who have wet dreams really love them. It seems to me that while it may be 'natural and normal' to masturbate, it also seems 'natural and normal' to want wet dreams and not masturbate. It's just not 'accepted' as normal.
Most people just aren't aware of who has wet dreams, who doesn't, how often, and why, or how much or little people who have them like them. Nor can they get them to see for themselves. It may or may not be harmful, but for many people, masturbation is an addiction. They can't stop, yet if they never started they wouldn't miss it.
Like most people, I grew up masturbating and having very few wet dreams. But with the advent of the internet, it's possible to do a lot of anecdotal research that couldn't be done before on what other people think, do, and feel about masturbation and wet dreams.
I think knowledge is a good thing, and people should have knowledge of the alternatives. I didn't know that people who don't masturbate may have 2, 3, or even (for a few people) 6 or 7 wet dreams a week. I didn't know that they were normal people, neither sex crazed (from lack of masturbation to relieve the 'tensions'), nor 'freaks' in other ways. I didn't know that some of them know all about masturbation, may have done it themselves, but now choose not to.
I also didn't know that a lot of people try really hard to have wet dreams by holding off from masturbation. Most people fail, but I wonder what happens if they succeed, and start having frequent wet dreams that may be more intense than masturbation (as many who already have them say)? After all that 'effort', some of them may very well keep up the wet dreams and try to have them even more often by continuing not to masturbate. How many people reading this are bored with masturbation enough to wish they could do just that?
(It's still not clear to me if ALL normal males who choose not to masturbate long enough will eventually have wet dreams. But it seems that virtually everyone who claims not to masturbate does, even if they used to masturbate in the past and had none. It can just take a long time.)
I think a more balanced and informed view for people, young and old, would be to understand and consider that frequent wet dreams are a real and natural alternative to masturbation. If they taught in schools not only that masturbation is 'OK', but that many informed people choose not to do it, and have wet dreams that many claim feel better than masturbation or even sex, my guess is that more people would pursue that path. Many people don't know it really exists as an option. I know I didn't.
It's interesting that some secular (non-religious)cultures, such as some Asian ones, have the idea that masturbation is 'bad' for you, and that you should be having wet dreams instead. There, if you want to be part of the 'in crowd', you'd have wet dreams and not masturbate. You'd be considered a wimp and loser if you did masturbate.
I'm an older guy now, and I may not have a lot of wet dreams if I quit masturbating completely. But I think if I knew what I know now, I probably would have given a very hard try to go the 'wet dream' route whan I was young. So might many other people. After all, you could always resume masturbating (and probably stop all the wet dreams) if you wanted to.
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focus
06-11-2003, 02:37 PM
Originally posted by Texanguy:
How many people reading this are bored with masturbation enough to wish they could do just that?
Me!!! :D
But I've tried many times to quit masturbating in an attempt to get another wet dream, and failed. The sexual tension becomes almost unbearable after 3 weeks. I mean it seriously affects my everyday life if I don't ejaculate. I find I can't concentrate on anything, especially work, I'm easily distracted, horny beyond belief to the point my mind is thinking sexual thoughts nearly all the time, I can't sleep well at night, I'm irritable, moody, and aggressive. Its like I'm on drugs or something, and its just sexual tension and I guess a build up of hormones.
Once I ejaculate, its like all these symptoms disappear, and I'm back to normal. Its really quite amazing.
So not only is quiting masturbation and sex to get a wet dream difficult, it has a negative effect on many parts of my everyday life. And all that just isn't worth it to me.
You say its just the mind conditioned to do all this because of masturbation, like if I had never masturbated or had sex I wouldn't feel like this when I quit. But I don't know - seems more to it than just that.
(It's still not clear to me if ALL normal males who choose not to masturbate long enough will eventually have wet dreams. But it seems that virtually everyone who claims not to masturbate does, even if they used to masturbate in the past and had none. It can just take a long time.)
Not me - I had my one and only wet dream after only 5 days of not ejaculating without even trying to have one. It just happened unexpectedly. Then I go up to 2 months without ejaculating, and no wet dream. Makes no sense.
How many people reading this are bored with masturbation enough to wish they could do just that?
Me!!! :D
But I've tried many times to quit masturbating in an attempt to get another wet dream, and failed. The sexual tension becomes almost unbearable after 3 weeks. I mean it seriously affects my everyday life if I don't ejaculate. I find I can't concentrate on anything, especially work, I'm easily distracted, horny beyond belief to the point my mind is thinking sexual thoughts nearly all the time, I can't sleep well at night, I'm irritable, moody, and aggressive. Its like I'm on drugs or something, and its just sexual tension and I guess a build up of hormones.
Once I ejaculate, its like all these symptoms disappear, and I'm back to normal. Its really quite amazing.
So not only is quiting masturbation and sex to get a wet dream difficult, it has a negative effect on many parts of my everyday life. And all that just isn't worth it to me.
You say its just the mind conditioned to do all this because of masturbation, like if I had never masturbated or had sex I wouldn't feel like this when I quit. But I don't know - seems more to it than just that.
(It's still not clear to me if ALL normal males who choose not to masturbate long enough will eventually have wet dreams. But it seems that virtually everyone who claims not to masturbate does, even if they used to masturbate in the past and had none. It can just take a long time.)
Not me - I had my one and only wet dream after only 5 days of not ejaculating without even trying to have one. It just happened unexpectedly. Then I go up to 2 months without ejaculating, and no wet dream. Makes no sense.
Texanguy
06-11-2003, 07:57 PM
Focus,
From what I've read, sometimes I wonder if it's people who have less strong of a sex drive find it easier to quit masturbating and have wet dreams. But then again, it may be a matter of how 'hooked' a person is on masturbation. If your brain says 'sex = masturbation', then it's hard to 'convince it' to try another way.
I think many people (including myself) have had wet dreams soon after last masturbating, and then not for a long time after in other cases. The thing is, you probably weren't expecting it or 'trying' to have one -- and that may be part of it! Still, the statistics say that people most people who have regular and frequent wet dreams just don’t masturbate at all. I’m convinced that you have to ‘join them’ if you want them too.
It's most certainly true that if a person never masturbated in his life that he wouldn't be in constant 'need' of it. It's also probably true that if you became seriously ill, and for some medical reason it became clear that you would die if you ever masturbated again, you could probably leave it behind you. If you also were a prisoner of war, or otherwise under a great deal of stress, you could also ‘forget’ about masturbation. So your obsession may be much like that of a smoker who just can’t quit smoking. Yet if he was diagnosed with lung cancer, he could probably quit overnight.
I posted my original ‘spiel’ about wet dreams on another site, and finally got an answer. Go to Google, and search on “how many guys in here masturbate”, INCLUDING the quotes. Then click on the result. This guy at the bottom seems more ‘spiritual’ than many people who really like their wet dreams, but still, he never had any before quitting masturbation about a year ago. He now says has about 6 wet dreams a month (one every 5 days or so).
Perhaps if a person doesn’t ‘deprive’ themselves of masturbation, but rather ‘doesn’t want to’ masturbate, it may be more the right attitude. If you realize that masturbation is not really necessary, you can ‘resent’ being hooked on it. Perhaps you (as well as me and others) can ‘ease’ into quitting. Whether it’s easy or pleasant, I’ve become convinced that a masturbator who doesn’t have wet dreams can only ever hope to have them by quitting masturbation. That’s basically the only way he ever will have them.
‘Leaving it behind' seems to be characteristic of people who quit and go on to start having wet dreams. It seems that people who quit masturbating and have wet dreams did it a two step process. They quit completely FIRST. THEN started to have wet dreams later. That separation may be what makes it so difficult to get your brain ‘trained’ to do it the ‘natural’ way – and it does seem that it’s built in and ‘natural’ to have wet dreams if there is no other outlet.
Sometimes I wonder if the sleeping brain that’s suddenly not allowed to masturbate has to ‘seek out’ other ways, and will eventually ‘figure out’ how to have sex while asleep without violating the new ‘Don’t Masturbate’ rule. It probably has to happen subconsciously, and can’t be forced. ‘Forgetting about’ masturbation while awake may be the best way to do that, and seems to fit the pattern of others that started having wet dreams.
Then again, perhaps if I can make the ‘transition’ to frequent wet dreams myself, I could speak with better authority. My main concern now is that I’m no longer that young, and it may take even longer to have wet dreams.
I think you’d agree that you (among others) are ‘hooked’ on masturbation. I would guess that like me and many others, if you held off long enough and actually started having frequent wet dreams, you’d seriously consider never masturbating again. I can’t help but think some people have done just that. If you look at it from their point of view, someone who has to wait only a few days at most before having another wet dream that feels better to them than masturbation does would see no reason to masturbate.
When I first composed thoughts on this topic, I ended up writing a ‘first person’ account of what it might be like to hold off masturbating and succeeding in having wet dreams. It went into detail about slowly increasing success, and how it might personally feel while the process took place It ended up being more like a very short fictional story. Would anybody care to read it? Anybody who wants wet dreams a lot would probably really like it.
From what I've read, sometimes I wonder if it's people who have less strong of a sex drive find it easier to quit masturbating and have wet dreams. But then again, it may be a matter of how 'hooked' a person is on masturbation. If your brain says 'sex = masturbation', then it's hard to 'convince it' to try another way.
I think many people (including myself) have had wet dreams soon after last masturbating, and then not for a long time after in other cases. The thing is, you probably weren't expecting it or 'trying' to have one -- and that may be part of it! Still, the statistics say that people most people who have regular and frequent wet dreams just don’t masturbate at all. I’m convinced that you have to ‘join them’ if you want them too.
It's most certainly true that if a person never masturbated in his life that he wouldn't be in constant 'need' of it. It's also probably true that if you became seriously ill, and for some medical reason it became clear that you would die if you ever masturbated again, you could probably leave it behind you. If you also were a prisoner of war, or otherwise under a great deal of stress, you could also ‘forget’ about masturbation. So your obsession may be much like that of a smoker who just can’t quit smoking. Yet if he was diagnosed with lung cancer, he could probably quit overnight.
I posted my original ‘spiel’ about wet dreams on another site, and finally got an answer. Go to Google, and search on “how many guys in here masturbate”, INCLUDING the quotes. Then click on the result. This guy at the bottom seems more ‘spiritual’ than many people who really like their wet dreams, but still, he never had any before quitting masturbation about a year ago. He now says has about 6 wet dreams a month (one every 5 days or so).
Perhaps if a person doesn’t ‘deprive’ themselves of masturbation, but rather ‘doesn’t want to’ masturbate, it may be more the right attitude. If you realize that masturbation is not really necessary, you can ‘resent’ being hooked on it. Perhaps you (as well as me and others) can ‘ease’ into quitting. Whether it’s easy or pleasant, I’ve become convinced that a masturbator who doesn’t have wet dreams can only ever hope to have them by quitting masturbation. That’s basically the only way he ever will have them.
‘Leaving it behind' seems to be characteristic of people who quit and go on to start having wet dreams. It seems that people who quit masturbating and have wet dreams did it a two step process. They quit completely FIRST. THEN started to have wet dreams later. That separation may be what makes it so difficult to get your brain ‘trained’ to do it the ‘natural’ way – and it does seem that it’s built in and ‘natural’ to have wet dreams if there is no other outlet.
Sometimes I wonder if the sleeping brain that’s suddenly not allowed to masturbate has to ‘seek out’ other ways, and will eventually ‘figure out’ how to have sex while asleep without violating the new ‘Don’t Masturbate’ rule. It probably has to happen subconsciously, and can’t be forced. ‘Forgetting about’ masturbation while awake may be the best way to do that, and seems to fit the pattern of others that started having wet dreams.
Then again, perhaps if I can make the ‘transition’ to frequent wet dreams myself, I could speak with better authority. My main concern now is that I’m no longer that young, and it may take even longer to have wet dreams.
I think you’d agree that you (among others) are ‘hooked’ on masturbation. I would guess that like me and many others, if you held off long enough and actually started having frequent wet dreams, you’d seriously consider never masturbating again. I can’t help but think some people have done just that. If you look at it from their point of view, someone who has to wait only a few days at most before having another wet dream that feels better to them than masturbation does would see no reason to masturbate.
When I first composed thoughts on this topic, I ended up writing a ‘first person’ account of what it might be like to hold off masturbating and succeeding in having wet dreams. It went into detail about slowly increasing success, and how it might personally feel while the process took place It ended up being more like a very short fictional story. Would anybody care to read it? Anybody who wants wet dreams a lot would probably really like it.
Texanguy
06-14-2003, 04:34 PM
At the risk of getting even more redundant, I just read of 2 more people who quit masturbating for 3-4 months before they started having wet dreams. One of them didn't like them and started masturbating again to prevent them.
A typical masturbator may have a rare wet dream now and then, but it appears once again that the only way to start having them frequently and regularly (if you aren't already) is to quit masturbating for a long time. If you are lucky, it might take a week or two, but it appears most people have to wait a lot longer.
Counterarguments and counterexamples are welcome. Maybe this knowledge really is new. Has anyone with a 'normal' sex drive that masturbated frequently, stopped masturbating or having any waking sex for like a year or more and NOT had any wet dreams? This would be only for people not too old, not under excessive stress, not medically challenged, not taking prescription or non-prescription drugs, etc -- basically a normal person who decided to quit masturbating.
Perhaps people who have quit masturbating and started having wet dreams could respond for balance.
1. Did you start having wet dreams within a year of quitting masturbation and all other waking sex?
2. If so, how long after you quit did it take to start having them?
3. What was the pattern? IE, Did they start out less frequently and get more, more and get less, or stay the same? Did the intensity increase over time, decrease, or stay the same?
A typical masturbator may have a rare wet dream now and then, but it appears once again that the only way to start having them frequently and regularly (if you aren't already) is to quit masturbating for a long time. If you are lucky, it might take a week or two, but it appears most people have to wait a lot longer.
Counterarguments and counterexamples are welcome. Maybe this knowledge really is new. Has anyone with a 'normal' sex drive that masturbated frequently, stopped masturbating or having any waking sex for like a year or more and NOT had any wet dreams? This would be only for people not too old, not under excessive stress, not medically challenged, not taking prescription or non-prescription drugs, etc -- basically a normal person who decided to quit masturbating.
Perhaps people who have quit masturbating and started having wet dreams could respond for balance.
1. Did you start having wet dreams within a year of quitting masturbation and all other waking sex?
2. If so, how long after you quit did it take to start having them?
3. What was the pattern? IE, Did they start out less frequently and get more, more and get less, or stay the same? Did the intensity increase over time, decrease, or stay the same?
focus
06-16-2003, 03:42 PM
A YEAR without ejaculating? Good grief - at some point you have to say its not worth it trying. I mean I had a great time with the one wet dream I had. But it wasn't THAT good that it would offset a year of giving up a year's worth of good orgasms for.
Was my wet dream enjoyable? Absolutely. Was it the best orgasm I ever had? Not even close. In fact, it was barely an orgasm at all. It was more like just ejaculating uncontrollably with a pleasurable feeling that wasn't quite an orgasm. I just find wet dreams enjoyable because I'm fascinated that the mind can do that - make you ejaculate without your control. The dreams that can go along with that are fun too. I think its the mystery factor that has me intrigued with wet dreams. And there's something about that uncontrolled ejaculation that is a turn-on for me. Not because it felt better than the orgams I've had while awake, because it wasn't better. Don't know if this makes any sense to anyone...
Was my wet dream enjoyable? Absolutely. Was it the best orgasm I ever had? Not even close. In fact, it was barely an orgasm at all. It was more like just ejaculating uncontrollably with a pleasurable feeling that wasn't quite an orgasm. I just find wet dreams enjoyable because I'm fascinated that the mind can do that - make you ejaculate without your control. The dreams that can go along with that are fun too. I think its the mystery factor that has me intrigued with wet dreams. And there's something about that uncontrolled ejaculation that is a turn-on for me. Not because it felt better than the orgams I've had while awake, because it wasn't better. Don't know if this makes any sense to anyone...
Texanguy
06-16-2003, 08:27 PM
I think not all wet dreams are the same. The few I've had have varied in intensity. One in particular was pretty intense, and it felt like a ridiculously impossible amount of semen came out as the orgasm went on and on -- like quarts! Some people who have them describe them as better than masturbation and even better than sex.
I'm not in a position to say, but based on descriptions by people who really love their wet dreams, it seems possible that if wet dreams are the only way a person ever has orgasms that the subconscious and dreaming mechanism could make them as intense or even more intense than the best waking ones a person could have. But then, some other people only know they had one when they wake up wet in the morning, and have no other memory of it.
I think another reason for the fascination many people have with wet dreams is that you don't have to actively force them. It's funny, but my 'web research' shows that the few young people who start having wet dreams but don't know about masturbation (or how to do it)would just love to be able to force an orgasm on demand while awake. So when they finally discover masturbation they keep masturbating, along with the rest of us.
But after years of masturbating, it seems (no matter whether they had wet dreams before or not) that for many people masturbation gets old and boring. The idea of letting the body do it itself becomes quite fascinating. With the possible dream content and potential greater intensity as added bonuses, it becomes much more attractive to have a wet dream than have just another jerk off session. (Even the 'mess' in bed would be well worth it, and maybe even part of the fun!) The idea of having frequent wet dreams and never masturbating at all can seem more exciting than endless masturbation, even to somebody who can't quit. Having a wet dream can become so desireable that some people refrain from masturbating for weeks or months trying for the experience. But then most of them can't have a wet dream no matter how hard they try!
I've seen a few postings of a minority of mainly younger people who love their wet dreams and have the rather uncommon ability to have one by not masturbating for only a week or so. (Even though the vast majority of postings by people who have wet dreams several times a week don't masturbate at all) If my 'research' is of any value to these people, it would be that if they truly find their wet dreams to be better than masturbating (as some they say they are), then they should know that they could probably have several wet dreams a week (and sometimes maybe even more than one a night) if they severely cut back on masturbating or quit completely. But if they keep masturbating, they may very well find it harder and harder to have any wet dreams at all, and may lose the ability completely. So they should give cutting back or quitting masturbation a try before they can't have wet dreams any more.
The rest of us are kind of stuck, and can only try to follow the usually long path some others have taken to start having wet dreams when they didn't before, as I've stated in previous posts. Who knows what the odds of success are if you try? Too old? Too programmed for masturbation? Just can't have wet dreams no matter what? Brain won't work that way any more? I think nobody on this planet knows, but the odds of having wet dreams appears to be pretty good if you do what they did, and zero if you don't!
Most people who have frequent wet dreams, including people who don't masturbate, probably just take them for granted even while they enjoy them. They wonder what all this fuss is about!
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I'm not in a position to say, but based on descriptions by people who really love their wet dreams, it seems possible that if wet dreams are the only way a person ever has orgasms that the subconscious and dreaming mechanism could make them as intense or even more intense than the best waking ones a person could have. But then, some other people only know they had one when they wake up wet in the morning, and have no other memory of it.
I think another reason for the fascination many people have with wet dreams is that you don't have to actively force them. It's funny, but my 'web research' shows that the few young people who start having wet dreams but don't know about masturbation (or how to do it)would just love to be able to force an orgasm on demand while awake. So when they finally discover masturbation they keep masturbating, along with the rest of us.
But after years of masturbating, it seems (no matter whether they had wet dreams before or not) that for many people masturbation gets old and boring. The idea of letting the body do it itself becomes quite fascinating. With the possible dream content and potential greater intensity as added bonuses, it becomes much more attractive to have a wet dream than have just another jerk off session. (Even the 'mess' in bed would be well worth it, and maybe even part of the fun!) The idea of having frequent wet dreams and never masturbating at all can seem more exciting than endless masturbation, even to somebody who can't quit. Having a wet dream can become so desireable that some people refrain from masturbating for weeks or months trying for the experience. But then most of them can't have a wet dream no matter how hard they try!
I've seen a few postings of a minority of mainly younger people who love their wet dreams and have the rather uncommon ability to have one by not masturbating for only a week or so. (Even though the vast majority of postings by people who have wet dreams several times a week don't masturbate at all) If my 'research' is of any value to these people, it would be that if they truly find their wet dreams to be better than masturbating (as some they say they are), then they should know that they could probably have several wet dreams a week (and sometimes maybe even more than one a night) if they severely cut back on masturbating or quit completely. But if they keep masturbating, they may very well find it harder and harder to have any wet dreams at all, and may lose the ability completely. So they should give cutting back or quitting masturbation a try before they can't have wet dreams any more.
The rest of us are kind of stuck, and can only try to follow the usually long path some others have taken to start having wet dreams when they didn't before, as I've stated in previous posts. Who knows what the odds of success are if you try? Too old? Too programmed for masturbation? Just can't have wet dreams no matter what? Brain won't work that way any more? I think nobody on this planet knows, but the odds of having wet dreams appears to be pretty good if you do what they did, and zero if you don't!
Most people who have frequent wet dreams, including people who don't masturbate, probably just take them for granted even while they enjoy them. They wonder what all this fuss is about!
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JDinCA
06-17-2003, 02:06 PM
I'm 42 years old and I can and have had wet dreams since I was about 13 years old. I also do not need to abstain from masturbation to do so. But what I do is pretty simple I just tell myself as I'm falling asleep that I want an erotic dream. Have even woke myself up humping the mattress LOL but realize the dream isn't over and actually fall back to sleep. I started to be able to do this because as a child I would have very frightening nightmares and taught myself to make my brain eliminate them as I would fall asleep and replace them with happy dreams. As I got older I just applied this technique to erotic dreaming.
Texanguy
06-17-2003, 05:43 PM
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Texanguy
06-17-2003, 05:47 PM
That sounds interesting and unusual, especially for your age group. Maybe those of us who want wet dreams should start telling ourselves we are going to have one as we fall asleep. I'm going to try it myself! It sounds like you have more control over what you dream than most people do.
Would you mind answering a few questions?
-Do you have any more specific recommendations or observations on how to 'tell yourself' you are going to have an erotic dream?
-How often do you masturbate, and how often do you have wet dreams?
-Is there any separation between the two, or can you have a wet dream the same night you masturbate?
-How do compare your wet dream intensities, etc to masturbation?
-As far as you know, do you always 'hump the mattress' in your wet dreams? I think many people have no physical motion.
Thanks for your input. That's what these forums are about!
Would you mind answering a few questions?
-Do you have any more specific recommendations or observations on how to 'tell yourself' you are going to have an erotic dream?
-How often do you masturbate, and how often do you have wet dreams?
-Is there any separation between the two, or can you have a wet dream the same night you masturbate?
-How do compare your wet dream intensities, etc to masturbation?
-As far as you know, do you always 'hump the mattress' in your wet dreams? I think many people have no physical motion.
Thanks for your input. That's what these forums are about!
JDinCA
06-18-2003, 01:52 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Texanguy:
That sounds interesting and unusual, especially for your age group. Maybe those of us who want wet dreams should start telling ourselves we are going to have one as we fall asleep. I'm going to try it myself! It sounds like you have more control over what you dream than most people do.
Would you mind answering a few questions?
-Do you have any more specific recommendations or observations on how to 'tell yourself' you are going to have an erotic dream?
I can't say I do it varies. Sometimes I think about someone I find attractive and fall asleep with them on my mind other times I just put myself in erotic situations that I would not normally begin to seek out or even want to but in a dream I can just plop myself right into the situation or activity. But I can say it is almost always people or situations that would be unattainable in my day to day life.
-How often do you masturbate, and how often do you have wet dreams?
Well I have sex at least once a day sometimes twice if I don't have sex twice I will sometimes masturbate but if time doesn't allow for a second then I will have an erotic dream. I had one last night even though I did have sex earlier that day and masturbated in the late afternoon but found myself still aroused at bedtime. It just isn't something I think about I just go with how I feel but can't give you a specific count.
-Is there any separation between the two, or can you have a wet dream the same night you masturbate?
Guess I answered this question within the last one.
-How do compare your wet dream intensities, etc to masturbation?
I say wet dreams feel more intense then masturbation by far. I think this may be due to the fact that a dream can easily put you in any erotic situation your mind can conjure and the arousal thus being much higher so the orgasm more intense.
-As far as you know, do you always 'hump the mattress' in your wet dreams? I think many people have no physical motion.
Not always sometimes I'm on my back and I am receiving oral sex or I'm standing in the dream which I guess I'm also on my back. But If I'm penetrating I find I am usually on my stomach and humping but it subtle not bed shaking. If I have the dreams soon after falling asleep I don't wake up and only know I have had one by the dry semen. It is the one closer to waking up in the morning that I am more aware of and have woken up as I was ejaculating or was close to and will fall back to sleep to "finish" the encounter.
Thanks for your input. That's what these forums are about![/QUOTE
That sounds interesting and unusual, especially for your age group. Maybe those of us who want wet dreams should start telling ourselves we are going to have one as we fall asleep. I'm going to try it myself! It sounds like you have more control over what you dream than most people do.
Would you mind answering a few questions?
-Do you have any more specific recommendations or observations on how to 'tell yourself' you are going to have an erotic dream?
I can't say I do it varies. Sometimes I think about someone I find attractive and fall asleep with them on my mind other times I just put myself in erotic situations that I would not normally begin to seek out or even want to but in a dream I can just plop myself right into the situation or activity. But I can say it is almost always people or situations that would be unattainable in my day to day life.
-How often do you masturbate, and how often do you have wet dreams?
Well I have sex at least once a day sometimes twice if I don't have sex twice I will sometimes masturbate but if time doesn't allow for a second then I will have an erotic dream. I had one last night even though I did have sex earlier that day and masturbated in the late afternoon but found myself still aroused at bedtime. It just isn't something I think about I just go with how I feel but can't give you a specific count.
-Is there any separation between the two, or can you have a wet dream the same night you masturbate?
Guess I answered this question within the last one.
-How do compare your wet dream intensities, etc to masturbation?
I say wet dreams feel more intense then masturbation by far. I think this may be due to the fact that a dream can easily put you in any erotic situation your mind can conjure and the arousal thus being much higher so the orgasm more intense.
-As far as you know, do you always 'hump the mattress' in your wet dreams? I think many people have no physical motion.
Not always sometimes I'm on my back and I am receiving oral sex or I'm standing in the dream which I guess I'm also on my back. But If I'm penetrating I find I am usually on my stomach and humping but it subtle not bed shaking. If I have the dreams soon after falling asleep I don't wake up and only know I have had one by the dry semen. It is the one closer to waking up in the morning that I am more aware of and have woken up as I was ejaculating or was close to and will fall back to sleep to "finish" the encounter.
Thanks for your input. That's what these forums are about![/QUOTE
Texanguy
06-18-2003, 03:18 PM
Thanks for your answers.
You seem to be extremely unusual. As far as I've seen, almost nobody has sex, masturbates, and has a wet dreams all regularly, and often all on the same day. Almost no one who has sex once a day or more has more than very rare wet dreams, and usually none.
One more question, based on your frequent experience with sex, masturbation, and wet dreams. You said wet dreams are more intense than masturbation, how do they compare to the sex you have?
I guess you are weird, lucky, or both (assuming you're telling the truth). I think it would be impossible for the vast majority of people to ever reach your level. Maybe everyone like you is too busy to post or talk to statisticians!
But if you ever figure out how to get other people to do it too, let us know! You could probably hold seminars and become rich.
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You seem to be extremely unusual. As far as I've seen, almost nobody has sex, masturbates, and has a wet dreams all regularly, and often all on the same day. Almost no one who has sex once a day or more has more than very rare wet dreams, and usually none.
One more question, based on your frequent experience with sex, masturbation, and wet dreams. You said wet dreams are more intense than masturbation, how do they compare to the sex you have?
I guess you are weird, lucky, or both (assuming you're telling the truth). I think it would be impossible for the vast majority of people to ever reach your level. Maybe everyone like you is too busy to post or talk to statisticians!
But if you ever figure out how to get other people to do it too, let us know! You could probably hold seminars and become rich.
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JDinCA
06-20-2003, 01:36 AM
Originally posted by Texanguy:
Thanks for your answers.
You seem to be extremely unusual. As far as I've seen, almost nobody has sex, masturbates, and has a wet dreams all regularly, and often all on the same day. Almost no one who has sex once a day or more has more than very rare wet dreams, and usually none.
Well 1st I didn't mean to imply I have them everyday. I don't need to have them everyday. The night I did have sex in the day masturbated, and then had a wet dream was rare not a common everyday occurrence. I have never discussed this ability with anyone before or thought it was unusual. It just was. Maybe the training I gave myself in altering what I dream at night is why but really anyone can do this. It isn't anything more than pre-setting what you want to see as you sleep. Basically start the dream while you brush your teeth, then go to bed and fall asleep. That's it, simple . I don't have them everyday I don't need them everyday. I have sex most everyday. Yes I have Had all three in one day. I don't have all three everyday. I dream other things as well. I can have erotic dreams which lead to an ejaculation. This doesn't mean I can therefore I will.
One more question, based on your frequent experience with sex, masturbation, and wet dreams. You said wet dreams are more intense than masturbation, how do they compare to the sex you have?
Nothing compares to sex with your partner. I never meant to lead you to believe I have wet dreams everyday. I was answering that I can have them on will but I don't will to have them everyday.
I guess you are weird, lucky, or both (assuming you're telling the truth). I think it would be impossible for the vast majority of people to ever reach your level. Maybe everyone like you is too busy to post or talk to statisticians!
It isn't any big secret Tex. No one controls your dreams but you. I learned this early in life. Just clear your mind and begin your dream allow only what you want to see enter your mind. I just can't explain it any simpler. It's that easy.
But if you ever figure out how to get other people to do it too, let us know! You could probably hold seminars and become rich.
The power to it is inside you. There is no get rich secret. You want it? Have it!!
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Thanks for your answers.
You seem to be extremely unusual. As far as I've seen, almost nobody has sex, masturbates, and has a wet dreams all regularly, and often all on the same day. Almost no one who has sex once a day or more has more than very rare wet dreams, and usually none.
Well 1st I didn't mean to imply I have them everyday. I don't need to have them everyday. The night I did have sex in the day masturbated, and then had a wet dream was rare not a common everyday occurrence. I have never discussed this ability with anyone before or thought it was unusual. It just was. Maybe the training I gave myself in altering what I dream at night is why but really anyone can do this. It isn't anything more than pre-setting what you want to see as you sleep. Basically start the dream while you brush your teeth, then go to bed and fall asleep. That's it, simple . I don't have them everyday I don't need them everyday. I have sex most everyday. Yes I have Had all three in one day. I don't have all three everyday. I dream other things as well. I can have erotic dreams which lead to an ejaculation. This doesn't mean I can therefore I will.
One more question, based on your frequent experience with sex, masturbation, and wet dreams. You said wet dreams are more intense than masturbation, how do they compare to the sex you have?
Nothing compares to sex with your partner. I never meant to lead you to believe I have wet dreams everyday. I was answering that I can have them on will but I don't will to have them everyday.
I guess you are weird, lucky, or both (assuming you're telling the truth). I think it would be impossible for the vast majority of people to ever reach your level. Maybe everyone like you is too busy to post or talk to statisticians!
It isn't any big secret Tex. No one controls your dreams but you. I learned this early in life. Just clear your mind and begin your dream allow only what you want to see enter your mind. I just can't explain it any simpler. It's that easy.
But if you ever figure out how to get other people to do it too, let us know! You could probably hold seminars and become rich.
The power to it is inside you. There is no get rich secret. You want it? Have it!!
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Texanguy
06-21-2003, 12:54 AM
Most people don't exercise any control over their dreams, erotic or not. I think you bring a new and unique perspective to it, and one that has more relevance than just having wet dreams.
When done right, it's probably 'easy'to control your deams, but it may take effort to reach that point. Your information makes it worth trying.
Thanks.
When done right, it's probably 'easy'to control your deams, but it may take effort to reach that point. Your information makes it worth trying.
Thanks.
Lambtube
08-05-2003, 01:53 PM
I'm 40 years old and have never had a wet dream, although at various times in my life I have held off from masturbation in an attempt to have a wet dream.
I think it is a matter of conditioning. If you tell yourself that you will never masturbate again, and forget about masturbation, eventually it will click into place. But then, I'm no expert!
I think it is a matter of conditioning. If you tell yourself that you will never masturbate again, and forget about masturbation, eventually it will click into place. But then, I'm no expert!