Christine-MA
05-24-2002, 11:17 AM
I've sort of already posed this question in another post, but I'd like it looked at by anyone who may have any information...
I had an abnormal pap about 4 weeks ago, had a colposcopy done 2 weeks ago, and my dr said I have HPV, and is doing a LEEP in 2 weeks. I have no visible warts, and neither does my current bf who I've been with for a long time now. (We were split up for some time last year, and I was sexually active with someone else, which is where I assume to have gotten it.)
My main concern now is...since we have no visible signs, as many people don't...is my bf going to be a carrier from now on? I mean, is he going to risk infecting anyone he may have sex with in the future (assuming we don't get married)?
If my LEEP removes all the abnormal cells, I know the virus will never go away, but I may become immune to it, and have normal paps in the future right?
Not all HPV strains proeduce warts right? So neither my bf nor I may ever develop warts? But is he going to still have the virus in his system forever...and what can happen is he isn't treated?
I know it's alot of questions...but right now I can't call my Dr because everyone in the cubicles around me will be listening, and he doesn't always call back right away.
THANKS SO MUCH!
I had an abnormal pap about 4 weeks ago, had a colposcopy done 2 weeks ago, and my dr said I have HPV, and is doing a LEEP in 2 weeks. I have no visible warts, and neither does my current bf who I've been with for a long time now. (We were split up for some time last year, and I was sexually active with someone else, which is where I assume to have gotten it.)
My main concern now is...since we have no visible signs, as many people don't...is my bf going to be a carrier from now on? I mean, is he going to risk infecting anyone he may have sex with in the future (assuming we don't get married)?
If my LEEP removes all the abnormal cells, I know the virus will never go away, but I may become immune to it, and have normal paps in the future right?
Not all HPV strains proeduce warts right? So neither my bf nor I may ever develop warts? But is he going to still have the virus in his system forever...and what can happen is he isn't treated?
I know it's alot of questions...but right now I can't call my Dr because everyone in the cubicles around me will be listening, and he doesn't always call back right away.
THANKS SO MUCH!
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DazedandConfused23
05-24-2002, 03:39 PM
Here is some info that might help you!!;-) Absolutly, you and your B/F might have HPV, but warts might not develop until years later, it always depends on the individual!( Especially if condoms were not in use!!)Always use condoms, one night of fun might lead to a lifetime of agony!!
What are HPV and Genital Warts?
HPV is a type of virus (Human papillomavirus) that causes warts on people. A few types cause warts on hands and feet but many other types cause warts on the genitals (sex organs or private parts). These warts can be as big as nickles or so small you can't see them. There are over one million new cases per year in the United States.
How do you get HPV and Genital Warts?
Anyone can get HPV. The most common way to get it is by having sex or touching the genitals of someone who already has the infection. Rarely, people can be born with the infection or children can get it while being bathed or changed. Sometimes people become infected with HPV and the warts will not develop for many years.
How do I tell if I have HPV and Genital Warts?
Your doctor can usually tell if you have genital warts. Sometimes it is easy to tell because the you can see the warts. They look like skin colored bumps or a lot of little fingers. There can be just one or many of them. Other times they are so small that your doctor must put vinegar on the wart and use a magnifying glass or microscope to see the wart. This does not hurt. Your doctor can usually tell if it is a wart or one of the things that just looks like one. The warts may also make a Pap smear abnormal.
Can I give HPV or Genital Warts to someone else?
Yes. You can pass them to someone else during sex. The best way to not pass them on is not to have sex. Condoms (rubbers) may help to slow its spread. If you have had sex with another person many times, they are probably already infected.
Do HPV and Genital Warts cause cancer?
Doctors have found that women with genital warts get cancer of the cervix more often. If you are a woman with genital warts, you should have a Pap smear every year to catch a precancer while it is still easy to cure.
Can HPV and Genital Warts be cured?
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here are many ways genital warts can be treated. One way is putting chemicals such as Podophyllin, Condylox, or trichloroacetic acid on the wart to kill and dissolve it. Another is to freeze them off. The warts can also be cut off using electric loops, lasers, or surgery. You should never use over the counter cures for warts near the sex organs because they can cause severe irritation. These treatments will get rid of the warts but you probably can not ever get rid of HPV. The virus is still inside and may cause more warts in the future. This is why it may take a long time to cure genital warts. Always talk to your doctor about your treatment and make sure you understand what to do and when to come back.
What about HPV and Genital Warts and pregnancy?
Genital warts may grow and bleed during pregnancy. Unless they get so big they block the birth canal, this is usually not a problem. Although it is possible for a baby to get HPV during birth, this rarely happens. Having genital warts is not a reason to have a C-section (caesarean-section) for delivery.
What are HPV and Genital Warts?
HPV is a type of virus (Human papillomavirus) that causes warts on people. A few types cause warts on hands and feet but many other types cause warts on the genitals (sex organs or private parts). These warts can be as big as nickles or so small you can't see them. There are over one million new cases per year in the United States.
How do you get HPV and Genital Warts?
Anyone can get HPV. The most common way to get it is by having sex or touching the genitals of someone who already has the infection. Rarely, people can be born with the infection or children can get it while being bathed or changed. Sometimes people become infected with HPV and the warts will not develop for many years.
How do I tell if I have HPV and Genital Warts?
Your doctor can usually tell if you have genital warts. Sometimes it is easy to tell because the you can see the warts. They look like skin colored bumps or a lot of little fingers. There can be just one or many of them. Other times they are so small that your doctor must put vinegar on the wart and use a magnifying glass or microscope to see the wart. This does not hurt. Your doctor can usually tell if it is a wart or one of the things that just looks like one. The warts may also make a Pap smear abnormal.
Can I give HPV or Genital Warts to someone else?
Yes. You can pass them to someone else during sex. The best way to not pass them on is not to have sex. Condoms (rubbers) may help to slow its spread. If you have had sex with another person many times, they are probably already infected.
Do HPV and Genital Warts cause cancer?
Doctors have found that women with genital warts get cancer of the cervix more often. If you are a woman with genital warts, you should have a Pap smear every year to catch a precancer while it is still easy to cure.
Can HPV and Genital Warts be cured?
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here are many ways genital warts can be treated. One way is putting chemicals such as Podophyllin, Condylox, or trichloroacetic acid on the wart to kill and dissolve it. Another is to freeze them off. The warts can also be cut off using electric loops, lasers, or surgery. You should never use over the counter cures for warts near the sex organs because they can cause severe irritation. These treatments will get rid of the warts but you probably can not ever get rid of HPV. The virus is still inside and may cause more warts in the future. This is why it may take a long time to cure genital warts. Always talk to your doctor about your treatment and make sure you understand what to do and when to come back.
What about HPV and Genital Warts and pregnancy?
Genital warts may grow and bleed during pregnancy. Unless they get so big they block the birth canal, this is usually not a problem. Although it is possible for a baby to get HPV during birth, this rarely happens. Having genital warts is not a reason to have a C-section (caesarean-section) for delivery.
Christine-MA
05-24-2002, 04:18 PM
Thanks! I'm having the LEEP procedure done to remove abnormal cells on my cervix. Since my bf doesn't have any visible warts, does anyone know what can be done to treat him for possible future breakouts?
wattagirl
05-28-2002, 11:39 PM
hey dazed and confused-you sure don't sound dazed or confused-i was wondering about your info.-do i have it right that some people with hpv never get warts-just wondering-thanks-wattagirl
DazedandConfused23
05-29-2002, 12:54 AM
Yes, it is true http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/bang.gif People can carry around the HPV virus and not even know it!!,and sometimes after being exposed to this virus they never have an outbreak, and if they do, it can be years and years later, because HPV is a dormant virus that can stay in your body for years without a occurance These people are called carriers, same goes for Cold sores ( HSV-1), some people never have one in their lives, i never, because i believe i am a carrier. But it is possible to pass on this virus even if you have no symptoms. But on the other hand, some other people who are exposed can see an outbreak in a matter of weeks or months, it all depends on the person. You can get a blood test done by your local Physician to determine if you have the HPV virus in your body!!
Thanks, I try to educate myself on these topics, and i like sharing the info i found with others!! ;-)
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sdp
05-29-2002, 01:29 PM
Blood test for HPV in your body???
I've never heard of that. The HPV virus infects the surface layer of the skin and does not travel into the blood stream. From what I've read, the only way to test for the virus is to take skin samples and check the DNA structure. Maybe there is somthing new, but I doubt there is a blood test for HPV.
How is HPV diagnosed?
HPV can be detected by: 1.) Molecular test—Hybrid Capture® II; 2.) Cell changes caused by HPV can be detected by the Pap smear; 3.) Visual changes secondary to HPV can be seen by looking with the naked eye (direct visual inspection), or by assisted visual inspection with magnification after applying vinegar (acetic acid).
Check out these websites:
http://www.herpes.org/drray/humanpapillomavirus101.shtml http://www.arhp.org/CervicalCancerInsert/cervical_cancer_insert.htm http://www.emedicine.com/emerg/topic640.htm
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I've never heard of that. The HPV virus infects the surface layer of the skin and does not travel into the blood stream. From what I've read, the only way to test for the virus is to take skin samples and check the DNA structure. Maybe there is somthing new, but I doubt there is a blood test for HPV.
How is HPV diagnosed?
HPV can be detected by: 1.) Molecular test—Hybrid Capture® II; 2.) Cell changes caused by HPV can be detected by the Pap smear; 3.) Visual changes secondary to HPV can be seen by looking with the naked eye (direct visual inspection), or by assisted visual inspection with magnification after applying vinegar (acetic acid).
Check out these websites:
http://www.herpes.org/drray/humanpapillomavirus101.shtml http://www.arhp.org/CervicalCancerInsert/cervical_cancer_insert.htm http://www.emedicine.com/emerg/topic640.htm
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DazedandConfused23
05-29-2002, 11:25 PM
There is a blood test for HPV, they check for the antibodies in your bloodstream, this does not mean that you have GENITAL WARTS, it just says that in one time or another you were exposed to the HPV Virus, HPV is the name of a group of viruses that includes more than 60 different types, i had this test done not too long ago, so i now it exists, and along with this i had a HSV test done, and the whole screening. It is true that to find out if you have Genital warts there would have to be a DNA test done because it could be any type of HPV. That's all i meant. You can have a wart down there, but it does not mean you have genital warts!!
I hope i explained myself!!
Sorry about that!;-)
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I hope i explained myself!!
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DazedandConfused23
05-29-2002, 11:36 PM
I meant to poke this into my last message but i forgot!! My memory is bad!!ha, ha, ha, LOL
The virus do go into your bloodstream!!, the skin or the wart contains an overwhelming amount of the HPV virus, that si true. There have been studies done that linked Genital warts to Cancer because of the effects of the virus on the normal cell to mutate and change it's DNA. BUT THIS DOES NOT MEAN ANYONE WHO HAS HPV IS GOING TO DEVELOP CANCER, I DON'T WANT TO SCARE ANYONE, SO LET'S ALL CALM DOWN. :round:
This is why HPV is associated to Cervical Dysplasia, which is precancerous cells of the cervix, and just to point out, just because you have Dysplasia does not mean you have HPV, just want to be clear on the facts.
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The virus do go into your bloodstream!!, the skin or the wart contains an overwhelming amount of the HPV virus, that si true. There have been studies done that linked Genital warts to Cancer because of the effects of the virus on the normal cell to mutate and change it's DNA. BUT THIS DOES NOT MEAN ANYONE WHO HAS HPV IS GOING TO DEVELOP CANCER, I DON'T WANT TO SCARE ANYONE, SO LET'S ALL CALM DOWN. :round:
This is why HPV is associated to Cervical Dysplasia, which is precancerous cells of the cervix, and just to point out, just because you have Dysplasia does not mean you have HPV, just want to be clear on the facts.
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wattagirl
05-29-2002, 11:39 PM
hey dazedandconfused-i've been thinking about your earlier post and have another question-picture this-i'm having sex with my husband and my baby wakes up and starts crying-i don't wash up but go directly to her-can i pass hpv to her through casual contact-thanks, wattagirl
DazedandConfused23
05-30-2002, 04:22 PM
It is possible, well just say you were touching each other, you know foreplay down there, these warts are very contagious because they are loaded with the HPV virus, you can transmit these warts by touching an affected area and then touching someplace else. These warts like warm, moist areas, so you will rarely see one on a hand or a place like that, that would be a different strain of HPV. You can transmit these warts without having sex, just by someone touching an affected area then touching you down there can infect you. But just to be safe i would, just like using the bathroom, it is good to wash your hands!!
Anymore Questions feel free to ask!!
Take care!!
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wattagirl
05-30-2002, 11:46 PM
thanks for answering my questions-i hope i haven't taken over someone elses post-one more for you-so if you have the type of hpv that only causes bad pap smears and not warts, is it possible to transmit it through the casual contact i talked about before-same scenario-thanks
sdp
05-31-2002, 02:06 PM
I've never heard of this blood test for HPV antibodies. I guess it is relatively new. Very interesting.
DazedandConfused23
05-31-2002, 03:05 PM
In some people, they can be asymptomatic, which means that they can be carriers and not have any visible symptoms. You can pass on the virus, even if you do not have any symptoms, but it is very contagious if one is in their break out stage of this virus. Hence, condoms should be always used, and condoms don't 100% protect from Genital warts, it has to cover the infected area if the person if broke out! I think all people realize the importance of condoms, but when the situation arises and there is no condoms available, they decide to take their chances, you know "In the heat of the moment!!" ha, ha, LOL, but seriously, if one is diagnosed with Genital warts they should take precautions in protecting their partner and also protecting themselves from other transmittable diseases, such as Hepatitis, Gonorhea, syphilis, oh my there are countless others!!, even if there are no visible signs, it's bad enough having one STD, imagine having 2!!.
I think you are talking about Dysplasia, which signal abnoramal cells, HPV mutates the dna in healthy cells, which produces warts, these are growths that are produced when the virus attacks normal cells and are loaded with the HPV virus, which make them so easy to contract!!
But if you do not have any of these warts, like i said earlier, and you are dianosed with this disease, it is quite possible to transmit this disease to others!! So, CONDOMS, CONDOMS, CONDOMS!!!! ;-) I can't stress that enough!!!
I hope i answered your question!!;-)
Take care!!
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If you are interested in talking to a doc online go to askdrbob.com or womenshealthchannel.com :)
I think you are talking about Dysplasia, which signal abnoramal cells, HPV mutates the dna in healthy cells, which produces warts, these are growths that are produced when the virus attacks normal cells and are loaded with the HPV virus, which make them so easy to contract!!
But if you do not have any of these warts, like i said earlier, and you are dianosed with this disease, it is quite possible to transmit this disease to others!! So, CONDOMS, CONDOMS, CONDOMS!!!! ;-) I can't stress that enough!!!
I hope i answered your question!!;-)
Take care!!
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If you are interested in talking to a doc online go to askdrbob.com or womenshealthchannel.com :)
DazedandConfused23
05-31-2002, 03:26 PM
I read your question again wattagirl, and i thought you were talking about sexual contact, casual contact such as shaking hands with someone will not give you this disease, imagine all the people in the world that would have this disease!! But if someone touched themselves down there when they are broke out and then touched your hand and then you touched yourself down there, then it is posible to catch it, this would be in a sitation when you are having foreplay with someone. But the info i am giving you now, (i know, i know, i can write a book!!ha, ha, ha), deals with Hpv and Cancer and the virus in the info is classified by numbers, this is how docs keep track of the different strains of the virus, to name all of them solely would be insane!!LOL so don't be confused ;-), i thought this might interest you!!:
Human papillomaviruses (HPVs) are a group of more than 70 types of viruses. They are called papillomaviruses because they tend to cause warts, or papillomas, which are benign (noncancerous) tumors. Different types of HPVs cause the common warts that grow on hands and feet and those that develop in the mouth and genital area.
Genital HPVs can be passed from one person to another through sexual intercourse and oral or anal sex. Genital HPVs may cause warts to appear on or around the genitals and anus of both men and women. In women, visible warts may also appear in the cervix. This type of a "genital wart" is known technically as condyloma acuminatum and is generally associated with two HPV types, numbers 6 and 11. Because these genital warts rarely develop into cancer, HPV-6 and HPV-11 are often referred to as "low-risk" viruses. Other sexually transmitted HPVs that have been linked with cancers in both men and women are referred to as "high risk"; they include HPV-16 and HPV-18 and have been found in the anus and on the genitals (including the vulva and penis), but are not usually contained in visible warts.
Both high-risk and low-risk types of HPVs can cause the growth of abnormal cells in the cervix. Abnormal cervical cells can be detected when a Pap smear is done during a gynecologic exam. Several different terms have been used to describe the abnormal cells that may be seen in Pap smears. In the Bethesda system (one system used to report the results of Pap smears), precancerous conditions are called low-grade and high-grade squamous intraepithelial lesions. Squamous cells are thin, flat cells resembling fish scales that are found in the tissue that forms the surface of the skin, the lining of the hollow organs of the body (such as the cervix), and the passages of the respiratory and digestive tracts. Other terms sometimes used to describe these abnormal cells are cervical intraepithelial neoplasia and dysplasia. Low-grade, or minor, dysplasia is a fairly common condition, especially in young women.
Although there is currently no cure for a papillomavirus infection, the warts and abnormal cell growths these viruses cause can be effectively treated. Methods of wart removal include cold cautery (freezing that destroys tissue), hot cautery (burning warts off with an electrical instrument), and laser treatment (surgery with a high-intensity light), as well as conventional surgery. In addition, two powerful chemicals (podophyllin and trichloroacetic acid) will destroy genital warts when applied directly to them.
Only a small percentage of women with certain types of abnormal cells will develop cancer if these cells are not removed. Studies suggest that whether a person will develop cancer depends on a variety of factors that act together with HPVs. These factors include smoking, decreased resistance to infection, and infection with agents other than HPVs. In addition, behaviors that increase a person's chance of getting an HPV infection, such as beginning sexual intercourse at an early age and having many sexual partners, are risk factors for the development of cervical cancer. In any case, frequent Pap smears and careful medical followup, with treatment if necessary, can help ensure that the mild abnormalities in the cervix caused by HPV infection do not develop into cancer.
Scientists are conducting research on HPVs to learn how they cause precancerous changes in normal cells as well as how to prevent these changes. They are studying HPVs grown in the laboratory with the goal of finding ways of controlling the infection or making a vaccine against the viruses. In addition, scientists are attempting to learn whether a person's own immune (defense) system can prevent the progression of abnormal cervical cells to cervical cancer. For example, some resistant cases of HPV infection have been treated with interferon, a substance that can boost the action of the immune system.
Recent laboratory research results indicate that some "high-risk" HPV types produce a protein known as E6. It appears that E6 interferes with another protein, p53, that is known to keep tumors from growing. The p53 protein is present in all people. These results cast new light on how HPV induces cancer in humans and may be useful in developing ways to interrupt the process by which HPV infection may lead to growth of abnormal cells
If you have questions about how HPV and Cancer relates you can call a toll free number 1-800-422-6237, to remember it easier, 1-800-4-CANCER , they would be glad to assist you in your questions!!
Take care and be safe!! ;)
DazedandConfused23
Human papillomaviruses (HPVs) are a group of more than 70 types of viruses. They are called papillomaviruses because they tend to cause warts, or papillomas, which are benign (noncancerous) tumors. Different types of HPVs cause the common warts that grow on hands and feet and those that develop in the mouth and genital area.
Genital HPVs can be passed from one person to another through sexual intercourse and oral or anal sex. Genital HPVs may cause warts to appear on or around the genitals and anus of both men and women. In women, visible warts may also appear in the cervix. This type of a "genital wart" is known technically as condyloma acuminatum and is generally associated with two HPV types, numbers 6 and 11. Because these genital warts rarely develop into cancer, HPV-6 and HPV-11 are often referred to as "low-risk" viruses. Other sexually transmitted HPVs that have been linked with cancers in both men and women are referred to as "high risk"; they include HPV-16 and HPV-18 and have been found in the anus and on the genitals (including the vulva and penis), but are not usually contained in visible warts.
Both high-risk and low-risk types of HPVs can cause the growth of abnormal cells in the cervix. Abnormal cervical cells can be detected when a Pap smear is done during a gynecologic exam. Several different terms have been used to describe the abnormal cells that may be seen in Pap smears. In the Bethesda system (one system used to report the results of Pap smears), precancerous conditions are called low-grade and high-grade squamous intraepithelial lesions. Squamous cells are thin, flat cells resembling fish scales that are found in the tissue that forms the surface of the skin, the lining of the hollow organs of the body (such as the cervix), and the passages of the respiratory and digestive tracts. Other terms sometimes used to describe these abnormal cells are cervical intraepithelial neoplasia and dysplasia. Low-grade, or minor, dysplasia is a fairly common condition, especially in young women.
Although there is currently no cure for a papillomavirus infection, the warts and abnormal cell growths these viruses cause can be effectively treated. Methods of wart removal include cold cautery (freezing that destroys tissue), hot cautery (burning warts off with an electrical instrument), and laser treatment (surgery with a high-intensity light), as well as conventional surgery. In addition, two powerful chemicals (podophyllin and trichloroacetic acid) will destroy genital warts when applied directly to them.
Only a small percentage of women with certain types of abnormal cells will develop cancer if these cells are not removed. Studies suggest that whether a person will develop cancer depends on a variety of factors that act together with HPVs. These factors include smoking, decreased resistance to infection, and infection with agents other than HPVs. In addition, behaviors that increase a person's chance of getting an HPV infection, such as beginning sexual intercourse at an early age and having many sexual partners, are risk factors for the development of cervical cancer. In any case, frequent Pap smears and careful medical followup, with treatment if necessary, can help ensure that the mild abnormalities in the cervix caused by HPV infection do not develop into cancer.
Scientists are conducting research on HPVs to learn how they cause precancerous changes in normal cells as well as how to prevent these changes. They are studying HPVs grown in the laboratory with the goal of finding ways of controlling the infection or making a vaccine against the viruses. In addition, scientists are attempting to learn whether a person's own immune (defense) system can prevent the progression of abnormal cervical cells to cervical cancer. For example, some resistant cases of HPV infection have been treated with interferon, a substance that can boost the action of the immune system.
Recent laboratory research results indicate that some "high-risk" HPV types produce a protein known as E6. It appears that E6 interferes with another protein, p53, that is known to keep tumors from growing. The p53 protein is present in all people. These results cast new light on how HPV induces cancer in humans and may be useful in developing ways to interrupt the process by which HPV infection may lead to growth of abnormal cells
If you have questions about how HPV and Cancer relates you can call a toll free number 1-800-422-6237, to remember it easier, 1-800-4-CANCER , they would be glad to assist you in your questions!!
Take care and be safe!! ;)
DazedandConfused23
wattagirl
05-31-2002, 10:53 PM
thanks again-all this talk about std's and cancer makes me want to run right out and have a pap smear-thanks again-have enjoyed your answers and will look for you on the other boards-wattagirl