i am straight.. never been with a man and have never had any type of anal activity with even a woman.... i just recently found out that i have anal hpv and they are internal too.... i feel like i am literally dying i am so confused and shocked.. i don't know how i could have possibly gotten this.... i don't see any topics about them being inside the anus.... what am i going to do?... what do they do for this?... how could i have possibly gotten this?... i was referred to a specialist today... the doctor asked me if i had had anal sex.. i told him never... he acted like he thought i was lying... i am freaking out!!!

i dont really know much about this medically, but i would think that since the anus and the scrotum are extremely close. if you were having sex with a woman that had hpv and her vaginal secretions dripped down to the anus im sure you could get hpv that way. i know that a condom isn't very good at protecting against hpv because it will only protect the penis but not the surrounding area. so maybe this is the way you could have gotten it. i hope everything works out and don't stress so much about it. it seems so much worse when you first hear it. if you let it settle in im sure it won't seem that bad. good luck.

Technically, you need to have skin to skin contact to infect the skin although that may not always be the rule. How you got them on your anus, only you could answer. Perhaps some gal fingered you??? Don't worry too much about this though. Just go through all the steps to get rid of them and perhaps have some follow-up's in the future to make sure they don't come back. Just remember, even though the warts may be gone, some parts of your skin may still contain the virus and thus you could spread it to your partner. Just something to be aware of. Talk to your doctor about it.

thank you... but that's just it.... no one has ever touched my anus. you say that only i can answer how i got them .... but i can not... you understand... i have NEVER done ANYTHING anal.... i am not even curious about anyone touching me there..... i called the only sexual partner i have been with in the last year and she said she was going to get checked out... but has not called me back... (we haven't been together in over 3 weeks because i found out she was lying and cheating with someone and i had her number blocked out till i found out about this) she is the only person i was with and she never touched my anus. That's what i am saying... NEVER... NEVER had any anal activity! but aparantly I have HPV and it is internal...

HPV is a virus...spread by contact...so if you get the virus on any part of your body and you spread it by contact with any other part of your body you have spred the virus to many parts of your body.

Its not a mystery or hard to understand.

Keeping your hands clean is a big first when dealing with viruses. Why, because you touch a lot with your hands in a very short time.

Taking a good shower after sex is a habit I have. Has it freaked any ladies out...? NO, not that they have said, I invite them in with me...That way I have someone to wash my back.

I have had several women tell me that they have HPV. I didn't have sex with those women.
A few have not told me and did have it. But I have been lucky so far.

It is the most wide spread STD on the planet.
Peace

Hey Jordan, I had some warts show up back there too, and I can assure you that I am NOT gay, and have NEVER had any type of anal sexual activity.

The doc I went to told me that there are over 50 different types of HPV that can infect genital skin, some of these types can also cause warts elsewhere on the body.

I have no idea where I caught them either, but getting rid of them is not that big of a deal, the doc just froze them off with liguid Nitrogen on a cotton swab.

It stings a little, but it is not that bad. I had to go back to the doc a second time to get a couple of them frozen off that came back.

The worst part is just getting up the nerve to go and get them treated.

One other thing, the doc told me that you can get them from sharing a towel with someone who has them.

Also someone can carry, and transmit the virus without having any visable warts.

thanks college dude........
that helps me understand a bit more....
i trusted the girl i was with and she used towels that i used dirty after her (and we used them to wipe the sperm and juice off of each other after sex/several times)...... plus about 5r6 weeks ago i caught myself sitting in the sex spot that we created on the couch after having sex..... i am not with her anymore but i called her and told her she should get checked and she says she has an appointment wed. i really don't want to talk to her anymore but i felt i had to inform her... even if she has them i am sure she will lie to me and say she doesn't she is still trying to get me to get back together with her (and i have never in my life met someone that can lie like her) ........ i don't care ... all that matters is i told her and she is getting checked(so she says)
So you have to be able to get them in other ways besides Skin-to-Skin contact.... There is no other way i could have gotten them...
I have calmed down allot since writing on this board.... (i actually had thoughts of killing myself)
MY big concern now is that they have spread INTERNAL(inside by anus) I have not heard anyone say anything about getting them removed from inside......
could someone please tell me if they had them internally and what the treatment and options were like. Thank you

Seriously man it is not that big of a deal.

I am pretty sure I caught them from one of the girls that I have dated, although none of them had any warts that I could see.

Several times I have taken showers with girls, and we used the same towel to dry off so that could be the case. I am also prone to warts anyway because I have had planter warts on my feet before.

If that girl was sleeping around the way you say she was, she had probably been with a lot of guys before she got to you. I read somewhere that a study had conncluded that more than 50% of college aged women carry the HPV virus in thier vaginas, and condoms are not effective at preventing transmission.

I am not ready to quit getting laid any time soon, so I guess I will just have to deal with it if I catch it.

I think the treament is pretty much the same whether they are internal or external.

How did you find out that you had them, did you have any symptoms?

The only way I found out that I had them was that I went to the proctologist for a Hemoroid that was hurting me really bad, and he told me that I also had warts.

I know what you mean about your Dr. not believing you. Just got the nerve to go today - shoulda went 4 months ago. He didn't "probe" about my sexuality, so I flat out told him I had no idea how they got back there and we both agreed it was possible for juice to drip. I'm sheduled for surgery in 2 weeks at a cost of $1600 hospital, $1600 Surgeon + tests & Anest.

Todays visit came to $210 with scope. Was supose to be 180 + 300.

I will need monthly check ups for at least a year. If needed to be treated wih interferion I guess if it's cancerous he said it's real expensive. A frined of mine takes it for blood cancer (what's that called again?) and it's $1200 a treatment.

I will be coming back here to learn & share - so bookmark if interested.

I'm "self insured" and was "kinda" happy about the surgical costs - although it seems a littl high since I don't remember "the act" if indeed it was an act.

I'm 31 and practice better than safe sex.

I read that warts are highly contaigous and transmitted by "touch". Also they're never more than 1.5 inches inside if they go inside.

My question: Why would a Doctor slide a seemingly 5 foot aparatus inside past the affected/infected area? Would'nt you thing this would tansfer the virus inside?

Rob

Had surgery, thurs. very painless! Dr. had to rip a little on mon, now some pain. Did and EXCELLENT JOB! Fells good, but time consuming to cleanse.

njrob.....
please tell me more about the surgery... i got sent to a gastrologist who said he could do nothing and sent me to a rectal surgeon where I felt totally molested.... and he says he when i was ready he needed to put me under and burn them off. ... they ARE internal...... i forgot... but did you have internal surgery... I am freaked out about it .... i want to try this stuff called manna i found on a website... could be a hoax.... could you explain more about the surgery ....... like in some detail....
i haven't read much about people talking about internal rectal surgery...
thanks man...

For some reason it seems like people avoid the topic of anal/rectal warts. I am glad you guys are talking about it. Good luck with your treatment!

I've been reading these posts and it seems like you are all guys. I'm a girl and I recently had a wart frozen off by my doctor. Up until then, I didn't know what it was; the doc informed me it was an STD. It is now just hitting me that I have an incurable virus and I'm pretty much freaking out. I had a complete PAP smear and the doc said everything else was fine. But still...this is very upsetting.

So do you guys always tell your partners that you have this? I don't sleep around much AT ALL (which really sucks about this whole thing), but I can't imagine someone still wanting to be with me after I break the news. I don't know how to cope with this, and possible complications down the road if I ever were to get pregnant.

:(

Well it is kind of hard to know you have it. The Doc told me that you can be carrying the virus, and can transmit it to a partner without having any visable warts.

According to my doc, most people who are infected with the HPV virus never develop warts anyway. How can they get treated or tell their partners if they don't know they have it?

When I found out I had them I had not been sexually active for nearly a year. I have no clue how I got them, because none of the girls I ever dated had any warts, that I could see.

After I was diagnosed, I told my ex girlfriend (last person I had had sex with) she should get checked out and her pap test came back normal.

Obviously I didn't get them from her, so I must have caught them from someone I dated a number of years ago.

This article has a lot of good information check it out.
It's from 1996 so it's a little old but still good (it doesn't even mention Aldara).
http://www.actupgg.org/BAR/art0021.html

HPV or Condylomata (genital warts) are one of the most easiest STD's to pass on to people. Skin contact is generally they way it is done. In referring to Jordan31 it is likely spread through just mutual skin contact. You don't have to have the active warts to spread, it can be spread from the virus on the skin only. Generally warts on the anus and inside the anus are Burned off (such as diathermy). Some people may get a reoccurrence of warts after treatment, but most people seem to develop a resistance to that virus later in life. Of course there are some 15 or more genital wart viruses around!

Nurse makes a good point, the VAST MAJORITY of people develop a resistance to the virus after a period of time. I read a study that says that a group of women were tested for HPV and something like 40% of them had it, and within 8 months almost 80% of them had resolved the virus by their own immune systems.

This is good news. Don't fret folks. You may want to try Aldara because it helps your immune system recognize and develop antibodies to help you resolve it faster. Getting it burned off will only burn it off, doesn't necessarily help your immune system.

However be careful, some people report serious adverse reactions to Aldara like bad flu-like symptoms that are no fun.

i've not been diagnosed or anything, but I have a single wart the size of a small sized bean on the shaft of my penis..im pretty scared and confused, because, im not sure of it, i dont want to tell anybody, and im not schedualed to see my doctor anytime soon. Its just a large pimple, wart, whatever it is, and i tried squeezing it and nothing happened, cept pain. its not painfull or irritating, or inflamed usually, and i've never had anything like it,its stiff in the middle and in the pubic region, i have had large pimples or warts before, one or two of them, but they went away just fine except for one, where there's still a stiff little..bump. The one on the shaft, just seems to be camping out. Can anybody give me advice or tell me what to do, or even confirm that its hvp? im 15..its not normal, but is it common among people my age?

how is it transmitted?

Originally posted by jordan31:
i am straight.. never been with a man and have never had any type of anal activity with even a woman.... i just recently found out that i have anal hpv and they are internal too.... i feel like i am literally dying i am so confused and shocked.. i don't know how i could have possibly gotten this.... i don't see any topics about them being inside the anus.... what am i going to do?... what do they do for this?... how could i have possibly gotten this?... i was referred to a specialist today... the doctor asked me if i had had anal sex.. i told him never... he acted like he thought i was lying... i am freaking out!!!

Calm down. I too NEVER had activity in that department, but I got it there also. Know it doesnt matter what way you go gay, or straight you can still get it.

The strand that I have and it seems that YOU have (maybe) only act out in the anal area.

Dont freak out.....because one can get it without having activity in that area...I too freaked out when I got it there....out of all places.

Being a woman I have to respond as well here. I apparently got HPV from my ex-husband over 7 years ago and didn’t know about it almost 2 years ago... but not truly know what it was until a year ago after going to a specialist. Talk about me being freaked out! Guys I learned that this was the most transmitted STD out there, yet I had never heard of it. I was faced of having to tell my next sexual partner/future husband what he was in for. Unprotected sex will transmit it. Not too mention how this would affect me having children. Its not until just recently I've learned that anywhere from 70 - 80% (the numbers vary) of the population have it! I was shocked! And gentlemen... I hate to say it but be thankful that you had some type of symptom. Most men carry the virus and never know and pass it on to other women who in turn pass it on to other men and so on...

I think the sad thing... speaking as a woman... that woman typically have the worst cases, and the visible symptoms. Most men have no symptoms..., which I think is totally unfair... Just know that it has to start with someone... whether it was woman or man? It depends on who you are... we can lay blame or we can deal with it in a responsible hand. The only safe sex is no sex. Lets get real here.

Maybe I misunderstood one the postings but I don’t understand the guy who would sleep with women who don’t have it... and not with those who do, if he has HPV. Do you want to keep spreading it?

I've been dealing with this for almost two years now. After having several abnormal paps my gyno did biopsy on mild dysphasia and then a LEEP... he couldn’t figure out what was wrong and why it wasn’t going away. (I've never had any visible warts.) So he sent me to a cancer specialist. I was 29 about to turn 30, with no kids and I was going to a cancer specialist for my cervix. It was my specialist that finally explained what I had, what I was in for and the possible treatment left for me to try. This past March I finally had the laser surgery to remove the abnormal cells. For two months I was good, everything was healing well, until my next pap... abnormal again. (I haven’t had a normal one in over two years.)

Next order of treatment he wants me to pursue is what he calls a chemo-cream. Topical 5 Fluorouracil (5FU) is to be inserted into the vaginal to cover the cervix in order to attack the abnormal cells. The cream is not FDA approved but I'm looking into this form of treatment and trying to find other who are also using or have used this form of treatment to give me some insight on the results.

Again guys, I would much rather be going to the doc and getting something burned or frozen off... and then be done with it! Again I think us women are getting judged and punished when it was the guys who gave it to us... (From a woman view).

I actually applaud you for discussing your problems with this issue. More of this should be done in order to educate the youth. But we do need to stop the blame game and take responsibility for our own actions. Only then will this virus stop spreading.

I'll step off of my soap box. NEXT!!!

be proud? im not especially proud of a wart the size of a pea on the shaft of my penis in my peek teen-sex years...

i read on a STD Slide show about HPV eariler, that it can be spread from simple mouth to mouth contact, oral to genital, oral to anus, etc, if its from mouth to mouth, im scared i've given it to everybody...

spread by a simple kiss? true/false??

Just a quick note. Treatment for HVP works differently for each individual. I started with Aldara, and not only got the severe side effects, but it didn't help and they still spread.
The next course of action was the liquid nitrogen. Now everyone says 'it doesn't hurt' or 'it only stings'. Not in my case. I don't know if it is worse for girls or what- but I was in pain for the next two days straight.
On another note- how did you guys realize that the warts were internal? Was it because of pain or is it something to have the Dr. double check?

this is getting worse and worse, does anybody else have the problem im having?

Okay, im freaking out, I know there are people on these boards with MUCH worse problems than mine, but anyway to the point.

the 'wart' i posted about, looks as if its drying up, like the skin is getting dried out, help! is this a good sign or a bad sign? and if so, what should i do about it! the skin isnt' peeling but its taking on the white-crusty look and has the rougher texture, you know what i mean! PLEASE HELP! ANYBODY KNOW WHATS GOING ON?

Originally posted by Solidben3:
Okay, im freaking out, I know there are people on these boards with MUCH worse problems than mine, but anyway to the point.

the 'wart' i posted about, looks as if its drying up, like the skin is getting dried out, help! is this a good sign or a bad sign? and if so, what should i do about it! the skin isnt' peeling but its taking on the white-crusty look and has the rougher texture, you know what i mean! PLEASE HELP! ANYBODY KNOW WHATS GOING ON?


Sounds like what I had before I had my HPV wart removed. It is a typical looking HPV wart...if I were you I would go get checked out by a Doctor.

the faster i see a doctor, the faster i have a hole my in my thing...im not too psycked about that...u have a scar?

Originally posted by Solidben3:
the faster i see a doctor, the faster i have a hole my in my thing...im not too psycked about that...u have a scar?

No, however I did read some on the inernet that has scard...but YOU do have to REMEMBER that stories and photos regarding any kind of STD is usually to the EXTREME and RARE cases. The ones that do scar is if there is SO MANY or big that has to be taken off sergeorcally then those are the cases that could scar.

Mine was a singular and NOT too big.



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Ok... I just found out yesterday at a routine annual check that I have warts. I scheduled my annual because I noticed/felt some little bumps around in my vagina & wanted to get checked.
Well so I have them. I am mad... knowing that within the past 6 months I have been with a handful of people... with each using protection. But still... I got it. I understand that.
But I am worried about the actual spread & infection to others.
I have been reading quite a few articles regarding hpv & warts... none have really stated so.
CAN YOU INFECT SOMEONE WHEN WARTS HAVE BEEN TREATED & NOT VISIBLY SEEN?
I mean do I have to... any time I am intimate with someone... run the risk of infecting them? I hate that hanging over my head. I am very sensual, sexual person, but the thought of INFECTING someone... totally bums me out. I can't do that to someone, unlike what the person who gave this to me did.
So if anyone can answer that question... would be great... plus... I read an earlier post of skin to skin contact & even kissing.
So if I kiss someone... I can infect them with warts? or is it just my infected area (vagina) that if skin to skin contact is done... then it is spread?
Please help me clarify...
this is all in part of helping me cope with this crap.
thanks

well, your taking it alot better than i am...i have the same question, can anybody answer it? can a simple tounge-kiss spread HPV?

depends on what strand you have. It all depends on what strand you have. There is a strand that can affect both genital and oral, so IF that is the strand one has then yes.

Im 15..I asked my mother to get me an appointment with my doctor, but the problem is she's a kidney doctor, because if you go into the kidney forum..anyway, yeah, i've got alot of problems. So, anyway im way too embarrased to tell my mother and dont bother trying to convince me to, so she wont make an appointment over 'just some questions about random things' so she wants me to make a PHONE call, but...then i've got to schedual an appointment, either way my mom will find out, but i'd rather not tell her until after its diagnosed professionaly. I told my mom, i want to ask her about a.d.d, more information about my kidneys, check my weight, average health, but she's being nosey and stubborn..n asked if anythings bothering me, how can i just get her to shut up and make the damned appointment without further hastling me?

Ok Solidben
Just tell you mother you want to ask personal adult questions to that you would feel more comfortable asking a doctor... if that doesn't work... is there another adult that you can trust to help you? Aunt or something? Maybe try that.

She'd go nuts if I asked her that...and no, we're not close with any relatives.

Solidben- there are a few other alternatives, Depending zon where you live you could go to a city or county health clinic and see a Dr. in their std clinic. These places are usually sliding scale, completely anonymous and confidential. Also if your area has a planned parenthood you can been seen there without your mom needing to know. Maybe you could ride the bus or have a friend go with you.

How come AIDs is on TV as being so widespread when I've never heard of HPV till coming here and it's the most widesprread of al STDs???

Because HIV is a whole lot worse.

i am straight.. never been with a man and have never had any type of anal activity with even a woman.... i just recently found out that i have anal hpv and they are internal too.... i feel like i am literally dying i am so confused and shocked.. i don't know how i could have possibly gotten this.... i don't see any topics about them being inside the anus.... what am i going to do?... what do they do for this?... how could i have possibly gotten this?... i was referred to a specialist today... the doctor asked me if i had had anal sex.. i told him never... he acted like he thought i was lying... i am freaking out!!!

Jordan, can I ask you a question...

How is it that you were diagnosed with internal anal warts?

I mean, how did you or your doctor discover this? If there are no warts on the anus, what brought about any necessity to screen that area?

I have a question also, if statistics show that most warts resolve themselves and disappear after a year; and they aren't bothering the person, why have them removed? Is there a preventitive reason for removing them?

I am not sure if they will resolve on their own, if that were the case ppl would not get them removed. I think there is a slight chance with the smaller ones, but even that is somewhat shady.


Jordon, HPV (Human Papilloma Virus) is a Skin Virus, as you have heard many times before. SKIN SKIN SKIN VIRUS. It is TRANSMITTED from Skin-to-Skin, or Skin-to-object contact. There are many Strains of the virus, some that affect the hands and feet, some that affect the Genitals, and some other that produce no symptoms. I think there are over 70+ known and some unknown strains. Everyone in the world has HPV-1 (the one that causes hand warts), ppl shake hands, touch each other or touch something someone with HPV-1 had touched, and they pick up HPV-1 on their hands. Not everyone shows hand warts though? right? Because ppl have different immune responses and everyone is different , health wise. The same can be said for HPV-6,11 the Genital strains. Although they affect the Genital region, the virus does not care whether it was picked up from your hand and transfered to your Genitals, or it was picked up from a contaminated object like a towel which someone with Genital HPV had used, and you dry yourself off with it, or whether someone who had HPV touched a 5-dollar bill and had the virus on that, and you touched it and picked it up on your hand. It is transmitted just like that. Research shows this, so in my opinion its not really even an STD, b/c it can be picked up other ways. However , depending on who you speak with , they can tell you otherwise. The virus is all around us, and chances are you had picked it up years ago, it was only prolly when your immune system was down when they started showing up. You should just try to eat better and exercise, and im sure with a little treatment you wont have to worry about them any longer. But this is all normal and common, i bet you all my money that if someone picked up DNA from your hand, they would find tons and tons of strains of HPV, genital and non-genital. Thats just it about the virus, its a SKIN virus, it does not discriminate about the type of skin, just where it grows on the skin, which is do to various degrees of skin epidermal layers and sensitivity, and the such.

hope this helps, feel better, your a normal dude. just eat right and take care of yourself, you will be fine.

and 1 question, how do they know its not Internal Hemmoroids?

Mak

Hi desertdweller, getting your warts removed is purely for cosmetic reasons, there is no medical reason to get them removed. I think most people just obviously don't like having warts on their genitals and since you don't know exactly how long they are going to last for it is your instinct to want them taken away.